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rycm131
For fun, I simulated an entire season of MLB the Show 2014 and Matt Cain went 12-9. I think this is a good sign that he’s going to turn things around
lowtalker1
Try the show 19
He will probably go 3- 14
lowtalker1
17*
antonio bananas
he went 12-9. was it with a 7.50 ERA and a ton of run support or a 1.90 ERA with little run support?
matt41265
would be cool if chris marrero made the giants roster. the guys mashes the ball in the minors and just hit a walk off homer today
jtb123
I really hope cain can turn things around this year. Not expecting cy young numbers but 12-9 would be great. And it would be a nice thing to see as the season progresses.
liamsfg
Ugh I am just not convinced that Okert is close to ready for the bigs. His frame is like a muffin and he is just too wet behind the ears. We need someone with more of a stone-face and many of the names on his list have better stuff than Okert to give him an opening day start.
goob
Gorkys Hernandez is 29, not 26.
I concur with all these predictions, except I think Osich somehow finds his way onto the opening day roster…
aussiegiants53
I might be slightly biased but I think the Giants camp battles might be the most closely followed with all the names we have, going to be fun that’s for sure, no doubt we lose some of them who if they have a good spring could be picked up by other teams… ahhhh baseball is back baby!!!
davidcoonce74
Kyle Blanks feels like a guy made for the KBO. He might hit 40 homers there if he could just DH.
joeybats19
They got Michael
joeybats19
Morse back?
usafcop
Not impressed with any of the players mentioned but it doesn’t matter because Bochy is like Belichick and can put garbage out there and win games….I would even bet that another unlikely hero wins them a playoff game or even series….luckiest team in professional sports….Cain had maybe 3 decent years and was the #2 starter on WS teams….and the Giants strength was it’s pitching during those WS runs….
usafcop
On paper the Giants win maybe 83 games but they end up winning more like 93 games….because of luck and Bochy….
Jean Matrac
83 is too low. A team with Bumgarner, Cueto and Moore in the rotation, and a core that includes Posey, Panik,Crawford, and Belt on paper looks to project to around 87-88 wins,
petefrompp
Its not luck if you do it for almost a decade- Giants know how to grind it out.
Just like everyone bags on their minor league system – except oh thats right developed all stars at every infield position – yeah that farm sucks-
jakem59
Cain had a 6 year run where he was one of the best pitchers in the game, not “three decent years”.
Jean Matrac
Maybe look at some stats before posting incorrect assumptions. 3 years? Over 6 years from the age of 22, until the injuries slowed him down, he posted a 3.18 ERA, averaged 217 IPs, and 178 SOs per season, with a 126 ERA+. And Cain was the ace of both the 2010 and 2012 staffs. This despite the presence of Bumgarner and Lincecum. on both those WS winning teams.
coachbrad
Matt Cain is only 32? He did have a good six year run but your career isn’t supposed to be over at 27. He should still be in his prime.
Nightmare scenario if he manages to pitch 200 innings and his option vests.
claude raymond
Cain throws 200, like the old Cain, and that’s a nightmare? You think they’ll care?
He won’t throw 200 even if he’s the old Cain btw. That was put in the contract long before he became injury plagued.
Deke
I think Hernandez is a lock to make the roster, not just because he’s out of options but because there is really nobody else that can play CF and Span cannot play 162 games there.
I really hope SF shrinks the size of their pen to allow for more bench bats. Last year was TERRIBLE where they had something like zero 9 inning come from behind wins. When you’re bringing up Ehire Adrianza to pinch hit in the 9th, there’s not a lot of upside there. SF have said they want some power off the bench and also need some depth at 1B so I look to see SF fill that need with one player who can also play OF.
jmgara
Don’t know why Kontos is in with the others. His job is as secure as the ones for Law, Strickland, and Smith. There’ll be a battle between Gearrin and Hernandez for one spot and Osich and Okert for another.
Unless he collapses during Spring Training, Cain will have the #5 spot.
And unless he collapses, Parker will win the LF job because he’s out of options. Hernandez will win an roster spot simply because only he can play CF. If Parker wins LF, then Mac goes to Sacramento. I like Marrero as a surprise 5th OF. Here’s a guy who hit 20 HRs as an 18 year old in A and High-A ball. There’s talent there.
I actually think that Hwang could win 3B job if he can hit MLB pitching. I also think would like to have Nuñez as a Super Sub where he could spell multiple players on their day off. I’ll admit the probability of these things happening are low, but if it does it’ll vastly strengthen this ballclub.
The Giants highly value defense over hitting, so I expect the best current defender as a SS between Tomlinson, Calixte, and Rollins will win a backup job.
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Jean Matrac
jmgara – I think your post is pretty much spot ont, except for your take on Kontos, and Osich and Okert. It could certainly turn out as you see it, but both Osich and Okert have a lot of upside, And Kontos seems to have out-performed his peripherals somewhat. With Smith’s health a bit up in the air, the lefties have some value It might be a good time for the Giants to cash in on Kontos’s trade value now that it’s fairly high.
usafcop
I wasn’t saying that Cain was never good….I am saying that he was decent or pretty good for a few years….he only hit 18 wins once….he is barely over a .500 pitcher on a team that regarded him as the #2 behind Lincecum who was dominant during that stretch….I would hardly say that Cain was one of the best pitchers in baseball ever….Lincecum was top 3 or 4 during his run but not Cain….this was a team that prided their pitching and he was the #2 guy and barely a .500 pitcher on a team winning 90 plus games and going to the WS every other year….
JoeyPankake
He also had pretty terrible run support during that run which lead to his record being around .500.
usafcop
That said….Cain would have been the #4 starter on the Phillies the year the Giants beat them in the playoffs 2012….behind Halladay….Hamels and Lee….and before Oswalt only because Oswalt was past his prime when he hit the Phillies….Cain could eat innings and give u decent ERA but that’s it….u can get that from several pitchers without paying them #2 salary is all I was saying….Cain is done now and will burden the team with his losing record….but Bochy will find me a way to win so it’s a moot subject….
Jean Matrac
If you keep posting you’ll lose all credibility. First, you said specifically that Cain was “decent” for only 3 years, then changed it to “a few”. 6 years is neither, and he was very good for those 6 years, not merely “decent”. Cain was still the best pitcher on 2 WS winning teams. Try as you might to diminish his contributions by portraying him as a #2. The Phillies lost to the Giants in 2010, not 2012. Cliff Lee was not on the 2010 Phillies. Cain had a better year in 2010 than any of the Phillies pitchers except for Halladay, the NL CY winner that year. Oswalt did have better numbers but was an Astro most of the season, and had Cain been on that team, he would have been #2 behind Halladay, since they would not have needed to acquire Oswalt at the deadline. And lastly, judging a pitcher by wins and W/L percentage is, as most baseball fans know, probably the worst way to assess how good a pitcher is.