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EKocur57
Hard to see the Pirates contending with a staff of Nova, Cole, Glasnow, Taillon and Kuhl but I guess it’s better than giving up on Meadows and some other top prospects for Quintana
Still would not be surprised if they add a veteran arm
Freddie Morales
I believe the Mets contended with some really good young unproven pitchers that had breakout seasons. Don’t see why the pirates can’t do the same
chesteraarthur
They could, but it’s not likely. Having a group of young unproven pitchers make it through a full season of innings and do well is kinda rare.
Daryl125
I’ll argue for Ray Searage and his magic. Might not all happen at once, but that’s at least a postseason contender rotation. Tough top three in the division to get there though.
chesteraarthur
so Ray Searge can now make pitchers not get hurt or tire? Perhaps he and his “magic” are the new market inefficiency.
Where was his magic on keeping Cole healthy last year, btw? Did it strike midnight?
johnsilver
What always gets me is guys like Searage who get looked up to as guru’s of pitching, yet couldn’t pitch effectively at the mlb level themselves. Dick pole was another example.. He was awful as a pitcher, yet when was with the Cubs as a coach? Would have sworn he was the 2nd coming pitchers and fans heaped so much praise upon him. It’s like they learned years later from their failures or something.
cubsfan2489
This ^
pukelit
I don’t remember anyone saying that he prevented people from getting hurt? So settle down. Also Searge has prove that he can help struggling pitchers get better. It doesn’t always work, ask Cory Lubke and Clayton Richards. But it does work a lot with guys like Burnett, Liriano, Happ, Nova, Melancon.
chesteraarthur
Me: Having a group of young unproven pitchers make it through a full season of innings
Reply: I’ll argue for Ray Searage and his magic.
There is someone saying it Now you can “settle down”.
EKocur57
Good analogy but on one hand, I just don’t think the young Pirate pitchers are on the same level as the Mets young guns of that year and on the other, the NL East didn’t have the Cubs and Cards
Anything is possible but again, it’s hard to see. Still, keep Cutch and let Meadows grow up a little. Same with Bell and the other prospects. Point to ’19 as the year they come of age
3Rivers
I agree about the giving up Meadows part. I said ever since the Q rumors started the ONLY way the pirates land him is if they gave up one of the big 2, more so Meadows. Surprisingly, some bloggers insisted it could get done with a package centered around Glasnow/Keller. I mean come on, there’s no way.. I dont see how they can think that. Anyway, it would have been wonderful to have a P like Q for those years of control. However, IMO if Meadows or Bell(before the injury) was the only way, which is, I’m 100% good with NH decision not to part with either. They are simply too important to a team like the pirates. You must give up something to get something, but in this case, while having Q would be huge, cannot give it Meadows, imperfectly fine with that.
I still can’t get over how these blogs can think they can land Q without giving up one of the top 2. Confusing to say the least. Only way Sox make a deal with the pirates is if they have Meadows or Bell(pre I jury) plus others.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Quintana changes nothing for the Pirates.
The Pirates dealing for Quintana would be the A’s deal for Samardijza cubed.
It wouldn’t be enough to get them over the top and the franchise would bottom out for a decade when it failed.
Kayrall
Did you see the rotation that the Orioles employed and somehow managed to contend/sneak into the playoffs last year? That Pirates rotation would pitch circles around the Orioles’….
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Mortgaging your future to “sneak” into the playoffs is dumb.
wustlbears
The Orioles also have an offense that is unbelievably talented and a fantastic bullpen. Pittsburgh has an average offense and their pitching has a lot of question marks. I’d take the orioles’ chances of getting into the postseason over the pirates’ any day
cardinalfanforever
It’s one thing to drink, it’s another to get behind the wheel afterwards. Drinking is not the problem ( although it may be with Kang), it is not finding some other means of transportation after partaking in libations. If you drink don’t drive, and if you drive don’t drink. I hope Kang soon figures that out. He is a very talented player.
Gwynning's Anal Lover
If I were some of these players, I would hire a driver to take me around. Heck….try Uber instead of drinking and driving.
ronnsnow
I don’t think DR has Uber. And even taking a cab could be dangerous, see how Ventura was robbed after his crash, before he died.
Ungerdog
south Korea for kang…
Dookie Howser, MD
Santo Domingo at least has Uber.
jakem59
The DR does indeed have Uber, and it’s not just for tourists. And the robbery/left for dead thing was debunked, the crash scene photos were released and he had all his jewelry and coroner reports he died on impact.
ottomatic
Completely despicable that the Pirates have not cut ties with Kang. DUIs are DUIs no matter what country they occur in. Along with other potential incidents he’s involved in, this guy is clearly a piece of garbage. But he’s a cheap, productive professional athlete! Let’s look the other way at the fact that he’s a monster for the sake of winning games! Joke. Hey Pittsburgh execs, hope you can look at yourselves in the mirror. You employ trash to win. Were you raised like that? This practice is all too common in sports though, sadly.
KCelts
Here’s hoping the Martinez extension won’t turn out like Allen Craig or Kolten Wong lol.