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Dmalsch22
Problem is, if Britten has a long career, that sinker is going to become way more hittable when the velo goes down. With Rivera it didn’t matter. Only thing more impressive than brittens season is what Rivera did in the playoffs for his career
Lego4365
Like blow games to the Red Sox?
chesteraarthur
Probably more like his his 141 innings of 0.7o era
nysoxsam
Yes he was great and he did make the best of his opportunities. I’ve wondered though how their careers would have turned out had No been a Padre and Trevor Hoffman been a Yankee. I’m a Sox fan but my thought is not to detract from MR but to reflect how underappreciated TH is. Looking at the overall body of work, TH is a HOF.
chesteraarthur
They’re not even particularly close. Mo has a much better era-, better fip-, more innings, and better playoff numbers (if you care about that).
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lovethatdirtyh20
Very well stated. You would be welcome at http://www.SportsPlusMore..net
Check it out and I hope you decide to post. Disqus format.
davidcoonce74
Obviously Rivera was better – he was the best 1-inning reliever in the history of baseball. I’m a huge Padres fan and a Hoffman fan but I think the line of 1-inning relievers making the hall should end at Rivera. I’ll be happy when Trevor gets in, of course, but he threw 1089 innings in his career. That’s five seasons of a starter.
And of course, it’s not quite fair to equate Hoffman’s postseason numbers with Rivera’s. The Padres rarely ever made the postseason.
nysoxsam
Closer ERA means little given inherited runners can score without it affecting the closer’s ERA. To have that many saves either junk the statistic or give the guy credit. Too much importance is given to stay gurus. Your eyes is the most important tool you can use. Again, not a knock on Mo. he could have shined in any generation. I just question those who say he was the best of all time. how many saves would Bruce Sutter have had if he played on the 90s + Yanks and only pitched one inning a night? his splitter was as nasty as anything Mo ever threw.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Cheap dig. And I’m a Sox fan. Pretty sure Mariano had our number most of the time.
nysoxsam
Not meant as a dig. I apologize if it sounds that way. It’s just impossible sometimes to say someone was the best ever. To me, Sutter and Fingers have to be talked about it you want to have that discussion and getting back to Hoffman, how many saves if you want to count numbers would he have had if he played consistently on a winner? Finally, I remember Bill Mueller being the one who seemed to have Mo’s number in the short time he played in Boston.
MB923
He also had big saves and won a series MVP against the Red Sox too.
casey5934
except against Ortiz. Rivera sucked.
rocky7
Ortiz was 13/38 for a .342 BA vs. Mariano, certainly very good as he had a unique back of rising up in the moment especially the Yankees.
Problem is my Red Sox fan, not enough moments for Ortiz.
Regardless of how Mariano faired against any particular batter, he is the best closer of all time and THE GUY and manager would want holding the ball in the 9th inning.
johnsilver
NE media is hilarious. How is Dombrowski at fault for any of those injuries? Only one he could remotely had anything to do with, or responsibility for is the Pomeranz one when he could have undone the deal when preller hid the elbow injury and he chose not to when the trade deadline had passed. THAT was on Manfred for not penalizing San Diego harsher enough, or giving Boston back prospects after the season.. What was Boston to do last August?? They needed as starter.
jdgoat
Carson smith was known to be an injury risk when they acquired him. That could be the reason they got him for Miley
Phillies2017
I want to see Kendrick on the opening day roster.
NicTaylor
I’ll second that. And third it and fourth it and fifth it…
22222pete
Red Sox medical evaluation process has been pretty bad going back to 2010. Kalish, Ellsbury, Pedroia, Lackey, Crawford, Jenks, Bard, Beckett, etc, etc.
nysoxsam
Predates current ownership. Truth be told, many teams have similar medical issues. The Mets have been known for example. it really extends to all sports as historically teams have pressured doctors and players feel pressured themselves be it from the organization, the coach or even the threat of another player taking their job. Only now when the player i.e. Davis Price has years at $$$$ left do they look at the full picture.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Yes, in baseball, people get injured.
johnsilver
Boras blames everyone for a missed game (ells) and pedroia? i remember that.. he tried to return after 2-3 weeks from a broken ankle with a screw in his foot and couldn’t.. How was that the medical people’s fault? Most any other player would have gone out and sat out the rest of the season without trying, at least Pedy tried to play on a broken ankle.
Lackey we would think they knew about.. hence the “free” year if he had elbow surgery tagged into the FA contract he signed under Epstein. Crawford? he looked for reasons to duck the crowd, same in LA.. Classic case of “take the money and run..”
Beckett? I remember boston managing to keep him on the hill consistently after the medical folks properly diagnosed his blister issues Miami missed.. Don’t know of any misdiagnosed by Boston tho. bard? He forgot how to find home plate.. Twinkie defense?
natesp4
Price is going to remain out until mid-May, try to return, still have soreness and undergoe Tommy John ensuring he doesn’t return until All-Star break 2018. There’s my unfortunate prediction.
jakem59
Except his UCL is fine by all accounts. You don’t just get TJS because you’re sore, the UCL has to go.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Kendrick on the opening day roster? Then you have no idea who he is.
countryjoe
DD is full of crap.
halofan20
Glad I didn’t draft him for my Fantasy league. He’s Damaged goods.