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MB923
How many trades have the Mariners done now this offseason?
docmilo5
Greg Johns @GregJohnsMLB 13m13 minutes ago
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Dipoto has now made 14 trades this year and 40 since hired by Mariners after 2015 season.
MB923
Thanks.
Southside 2
Finally.
docmilo5
Great move DiPoto! DeJong is going to be solid. DeJong gives more top minor depth for the rotation. Tacoma should be starting DeJong, Miller, Povse and Whalen in Tacoma. That’s a very good and very young AAA staff.
unsaturatedmatz
He’s good
docmilo5
m.mlb.com/news/article/215583532/mariners-gm-jerry…
He’s made 37 trades involvin 95 playes since being GM in Seattle.
hunthutch
Why did they trade him he was good and they got nothing back
hunthutch
Never mind dodgers got a decent return of young talent that could develop nicely
dodgerfan711
This clears a 40 man spot so mabey another move is to come. However it seems strange to trade dejong after such a good season
tenman85
Jackson was the M’s 3rd ranked prospect in the most recent MLB Pipeline update, which isn’t saying a lot. At this point, I think Dipoto just likes making trades.
BrodiesHairisGreezy!
He was one of the worst pitchers the Mets ever had. I doubt he is much better as a GM.
astros_fan_84
Billy Beane was a first round bust
NorahW
Yes, they don’t need to have been good baseball players to be good GMs. Different skill sets.
bradenbaseball18
Funny. He had a .8 fWar in his time there. Doesn’t sound like he was that bad
BrodiesHairisGreezy!
I prefer to watch with my eyes. He was horrible. Him and Dale Murray ..The two worst they ever had.
datrain021
Jackson is ranked 13th on their recent update and the other guy is ranked 22nd. But I like this deal better for Mariners than Dodgers
adamsessler
I guess this is a low-risk, potentially high reward-type move for the Dodgers. De Jong isn’t 1 of their top prospects. Most sites have him ranked around #18-25 among LAD’s overall prospect rankings, & rank him around #7-12 among LAD’s pitching prospects. He profiles as a mid-to-back of the rotation SP at best…
Drew Jackson profiles as a good glove, mediocre or below average bat, backup middle-infielder, so not anyone who’s going to significantly help LAD in the future; he probably won’t be much better than Chris Taylor or Charlie Culberson…
The real prize for LAD, if there is 1, is Zabala. He can hit triple-digits on the radar gun, & has an above-avg. curveball. The problem is that he’s wild, averaging 5.7 BB/9 in his brief career. He’s only 20 yrs. old, so he has time to learn better control (Randy Johnson averaged 5-6+ BB/9 until he was 29 yrs. old…). If he does, Zabala could be a steal. If he doesn’t, well, LAD is deep w/ pitching prospects…
BlueSkyLA
So the Dodgers get two of Seattle’s top-20 prospects for one of their own, but the one they gave up is the headline instead of the two they got?
bustercherrie1
::rolls eyes:: not EVERY story has to be about the Dodgers.
BlueSkyLA
Exaggerate much? So, tell me, why is Seattle getting De Jong the headline?
bustercherrie1
Because some people realize the Dodgers don’t have to be in every headline. Or because the Mariners got a player more likely to play in the MLB this year. Possibly further along on development. Who knows, maybe it’s just because they’re not Dodgers homers.
BlueSkyLA
Exaggerate even more?
I was surprised the Dodgers got as much as they did for De Jong. Weren’t you? Even the Freeman DFA was considered to be more important than the price Seattle paid. Explain.
slund24
Not two top 20 as Zabala was ranked between 22-28 depending on which site you look at. De Jong was probably listed in the headline as he is probably considered the best prospect of the 3 with the highest ceiling. De Jong projects as a possible 4-5 starter type where Jackson is probably a utility infielder and Zabala possibly a late inning bullpen guy.
BlueSkyLA
Top 25 or 30, then. Not sure what that changes. You are probably right in that Jackson has utility infielder written all over him and Zabala is a lottery ticket. Yet I remember last July when the Dodgers traded similar prospects to the A’s for two veterans, the talk was about how they’d paid a really tall price (yes I know, they were rentals).
whereslou
I am starting to think Dipoto thinks this is like a football team and every player at every level has to be a player he drafted or traded for.
Maybe this is so the Dodgers can get a look at Jackson and make another trade and we can have brothers play at 3rd and SS. The Dodgers need to cut salary so you should let those brothers play together. Lol
Now how many Dodger fans have to look up and see who Seattle’s 3rd baseman is and flip out thinking I am crazy? Though out would be nice it was a joke. I know you aren’t trading Seager just like we aren’t trading our Seager. Unless you want to give us the pitcher who is scheduled to pitch opening day for him.
usafcop
It isn’t as much Dipoto adding another high level SP as it was the Dodgers clearing a 40 man roster spot….yes Dipoto has made some good trades this offseason but give credit to the Dodgers for finding takers on 40 man roster guys that had no room on the 25 man roster….in other words he wouldn’t have made the big league roster anyways with the Dodgers….
usafcop
Kyle would be traded before Corey….if anything I could see Turner and 2 top 30 prospects going to Seattle for Kyle Seager but Corey is untouchable….
chive
Minor error I think but…
“In 503 Triple-A plate appearances last year, the former 11th-round draft pick hit .314/.285/.419”
How is his OBP lower than his BA?
ethanhickey
That is a typo, but it’s possible. Early in the season we can see it every once and a while. It happens when a guy hits a single and tries to stretch it into a double. When he’s tagged out, he’s credited with the single (for his batting average) but didn’t get on base (against his OBP). In this case, his OBP should be .385
ethanhickey
I think it happened to Kyle Seager last year early on. He was like 2-9 with 2 singles, but one of them he got tagged out. So he hit .222, but had a .111 OBP
chive
That’s awesome. I really wasn’t trying to be “that guy”, but it made me chuckle thinking about how someone could have a lower OBP than BA over the course of a season. My first thought was “this guy is a terrible baserunner…”
AndreTheGiantKiller
Not to be that guy but stretching a single to a double and getting thrown out doesn’t decrease your OBP. A sac fly is the only way to have a higher BA than OBP
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
So here’s my take this move is a half churning move half eye on this year. Jackson seems to be a speedster/ def type guy. They lost some of their pure speed in Johnson. So maybe they view him as playoff pinch runner type guy. The churning aspect of it Zabala. Collecting electric arms that other teams might take a particular interest in with an eye on future trade pieces. It’s not a bad move if other teams view Zabala having value. I can’t fault this trade at all. It works for both sides. DeJong plays in a huge spacious ballpark and might see an opportunity this year. The Dodgers free up a 40 man spot without losing anything significant. The question then becomes who takes that spot opening day, because they’ll be required to carry 40 with a guy on the 60.
BlueSkyLA
The Dodgers FO seems to be attracted to flamethrowers with dubious control. They seem to go with the philosophy that control can be taught, but velocity can’t. Has it worked for anybody yet, I wonder? Anyway no lack of competition for the 40-man.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Well I mean they gone both ways in terms of acquiring control arms with high spins rate and lower level power arms so I’m not sure they necessarily have a type. But that’s generally what most teams will do in terms of relief guys. That being said I’m quite curious as to what the other shoe to drop is going to be. Because there is usually a minor precursor to a bigger deal that no one saw coming.
BlueSkyLA
It’s probably sport-wide to some extent but I am looking at the patience they’ve had with the likes of Baez, Hatcher, Raven, and I see them keeping these pitchers on the roster longer than they might if they weren’t throwing hard. They also traded for Montes and though they ended up flipping him his main attraction was velocity.
AGAVE
Overlooking this.
My Dodgers have made transactions with the A’s and now again with the Mariners.
Any possibility that any 3 of these teams are dealing and not with Eppler and the Angles?
A-A-Ron
Not sure what the real overall effect will be this season, but M’s fans should be pretty impressed with how they’ve built the pitching depth. In the last decade it seems that at least half of the starts made at Tacoma were by guys who probably werent AAA worthy / had no MLB ceiling at all.
Now all of a sudden they have dare i say one of the better rotations at the AAA level, all of these guys are capable of being #5 starters or at least swingmen on a lot of rosters.
Not even sure which ones will form the rotation out of Rob Whalen, De Jong, Andrew Moore, Chris Heston, Dillon Overton and Max Povse. I dont want all of them getting starts this year in SEA, but pitching injuries happen. Will be interesting to see how they end up stacking up as next guy up if/ when a big league guy gets hurt.
And thats not even bringing up the fact that Miranda would likely get first crack at it as the likely opening day long relief guy who is a capable spot starter