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A'sfaninUK
No point to trade for Norris when he will be available for the min in a couple weeks or month.
bfolls
He’s a good framer and he wasn’t terrible offensively before 2016. I could see a team trading for him. I doubt Washington can expect anything more than “cash considerations” of 1$ though
lowtalker1
He is a bad framer
Lol dumb comment bro
kent814
Hes not good or bad at framing and he has also become a great thrower behind the plate in recent years
badco44
Sorry Mr Silverman, got to agree with DD on this and let’s face it hind sight is 20/20, so playing cheap shot beat reporter doesn’t work for me.
Steve Adams
Well, in fairness to Silverman, the Herald has written about the dangers behind the Sox’ lack of rotation depth for much of the winter. Not saying you have to agree with them, but SIlverman’s not really playing the hindsight card here.
johnsilver
It did mean that in the case of good health, 2 starters better than Bucholz would have been in the BP instead of just 1 and cannot overlook the fact still that he still isn’t worth half the 13.5m contract option that Boston picked up for 2017 given his inconsistency and always injury concerns.
This now could mean Elias/Hendrick have more starts in 2017.
jackt
Michael Silverman is going to have a lot to think about after he reads these comments. Good show fellas.
a1544
Ehh what he says is still true. He left himself with 6 starters headed into the season. That’s not nearly enough depth these days
bbgods
Wonder if Price needs TJ surgery, Mets and Red Sox have a fit: Harvey plus prospect for Devers and someone like Travis Lakins (younger pitching prospect).
badco44
Sounds light on what the Mets get, to me.
MB923
That’s not light for the Mets at all. How much do you think Harvey is really worth? He had a poor season last year and has injury concerns himself.
metseventually 2
Basically it’s Harvey for Devers. Never. He needs to add a lot more.
MB923
He as in Sandy or Dombrowski?
Edit – Nevermind, based on your absolutely horrible proposal below (Devers And Groome And another piece for Harvey, you’re certainly talking about Dombrowski.
A'sfaninUK
not a match at all, Devers is Boston’s longterm 3B. He’s the last guy they’re going to move now Moncada is gone.
stryk3istrukuout
You don’t replace a guy who is having TJ by giving up a big prospect just for another injury (and performance) concern.
metseventually 2
Devers, Groome and another piece for Harvey after this season…IF Harvey returns to form.
A'sfaninUK
Ridiculous, Boston is never ever doing that. Matt Harvey is not Chris Sale.
bfolls
Red Sox hang up the phone pretty fast
ghost of harambe
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Dookie Howser, MD
That’s a lot to give up for a single season of Matt Harvey.
MB923
2 seasons, but still a lot to give up
hyraxwithaflamethrower
With Harvey’s injury history, they’d be lucky to get one full season between the two.
billysbballz
One season because the deal mentioned was next year if Harvey returns to form. So he will have one more year after this year before he becomes a free agent!
billysbballz
Either way it will never happen and met fans as well as Red Sox, braces, and white Sox fans seem to make the craziest offers when it comes to trades!
Priggs89
Chris Sale comes with recent injury troubles? That’s news to me.
somethinghere
The Sox got 1015 pretty damn healthy innings out of him over the last five years. Add in an a thorough evaluation by the Red Sox before the trade was finalized, and I’d say that Chris can be excused from the blanket statement that Adams made.
alexgordonbeckham
Yeah it was definitely a head-scratcher.
kidaplus
Scratched his forearm defending himself from a vicious jersey assault.
reflect
Reporters be like “Red Sox have terrible pitching depth. Here’s 9 different starting pitchers they currently have available to pitch for them. But yep, no depth.”
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
To be fair he did provide a distinction of “quality” depth options. Whether or not you agree there is a distinction.
reflect
But those are quality depth options. None of them are as good as David Price but they are certainly better than the depth pitching a lot of other teams have
seamaholic 2
When compared to the vast majority of teams, the Red Sox have fantastic pitching depth. I do think that Sox writers tend to live in a wee bit of a bubble …
chuckymorris
Owens is the worst pitcher I’ve ever seen. Johnson and Elias all have issues. They have depth, but none are MLB caliber pitchers
Chebert
The Red Sox signed Kyle Kendrick and Hector Velasquez. How are those not depth signings?
dodgerfan711
Kyle kendrick stinks and who on earth is hector Velazquez. Signing pitchers isnt depth just because they are pitchers
Kayrall
A Quintana trade is headlined by Benintendi, not Devers.
bartoloshomie
Sale is better than Quintana and it didnt require Benintendi to acquire him. Feels like Benintendi is completely off limits
bfolls
Quintana probably has as much ( maybe more) surplus value on his contract though. However, I agree that Boston won’t be giving up Benintendi for Quintana
jakem59
I’ve seen that one extra year of control brought up often, I just don’t get how that makes the the large gap between Quintana’s value and Sale’s suddenly even out or skew more towards Quintana. Quintana is a very good pitcher but he’s not on that Sale/Scherzer/Bumgarner/Unquestionable #1 level (Kershaw is on his own planet, lets be honest). I think Quintana is a very nice pitcher, but it’s not exactly surprising teams aren’t champing at the bit to giveaway huge prospect packages for this guy.
Kayrall
The Red Sox gave up Moncada who was considered the more valuable prospect at the time of the trade (plus more).
billysbballz
Your not serious? White Sox fans think Quintana is a number 1 ace when he really isn’t an ace rather a great number two right now with a ton of innings on his arm.
glassml
White Sox trade for Benny Baseball starts with Quintana.
Priggs89
Haha. Gimme some of what you’re smokin.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
They aren’t giving up Benintendi. Devers and Groome gets it close.
bfolls
I doubt this encourages the Red Sox to pursue Quintana. The Yankees might since now winning the division went from “almost impossible” to “unlikely.” I’d think the Red Sox would rather trade for a one year guy
A'sfaninUK
I agree with this, can totally see the Yankees giving up Torres and Judge for Quintana, who’s contract and years is probably the best value in baseball right now, out of all the guys who aren’t making the minimum/are rookies. CWS might even add in Frazier and/or Abreu depending on how badly the Yankees want the division.
MB923
I don’t think that’s a risk Cashman wants to take. Only way I see them going after Quintana (if he’s still available) would be at the trade deadline and the Yankees are in first or close to first place.
bfolls
The fact they were tied to Quintana earlier in the offseason makes me think it could happen. Red Sox are much more in reach without price, so one would think they’d be more motivated in those talks.
Priggs89
Didn’t they already have a deal in place for him but ownership shot it down? Or am I mistaken?
If that was the case, it wouldn’t surprise me to see ownership approve now if Price is out.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I think the Yankees are still a year away. A lot of young talent, but I don’t think they catch the Red Sox this year, even if Price is out. As a White Sox fan, though, you guys have some good OF prospects the Sox could really use. They desperately need hitters.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
As a Sox fan, I’m not interested in Judge. He’s a younger Adam Dunn. HR or K. Torres would be a good headliner, though.
billysbballz
Your nuts. Wtf would the Yanks give up their best prospect and there 4th best prospect in a rebuild for Quintana who strikeouts keep dropping, his overall stuff is avg and he has a ton of innings on his arm.
kidaplus
ummm… his K9 the last 4 years is 7.4 – 8 – 7.7 – 7.8.
Posted career low in era & whip last year.
Just because you keep repeating something doesn’t make it true.
thegreatcerealfamine
Thank God you don’t work in a front office with that rediculous post!!!
floyd30
Not to ridiculous. I don’t believe judge will ever cut down his strikeout rate and will possibly get worse in the bigs. As a white Sox fan I would not be interested in a high strikeout prospect either.
trace
Dombrowski shouldn’t rush into anything right now. Let the team play and see where things stand by July. A Chris Sale and Porcello rotation is still excellent. Follow by 2016 allstar Wright and Pomeranz.
qbass187
I’d say if Clay Buchholz was the key to your season as this article seems to suggest then the issues for the Sox run WAAAAAYYYYYY deeper than a simple 12th starter!
BrodiesHairisGreezy!
Gsellman for the win. I have been rooting and following him for the past few years. Keep Lugo in the pen and see if you can pass Montero thru waivers for Minor League depth.
Solaris611
Colby Lewis is coming off a solid season in TEX and would likely accept a reasonable 1-year deal.
bobbyvwannabe
Gsellman for the fifth spot.
Lugo long-relief and spot starts
Rickeo02
Stop it. Bucholz sucks
charlienutlikka
the sox never shouldve signed price to that contract
inbuckwetrust 2
Lifer O’s fan here. Absolutely do not understand the “lack of pitching depth” that’s being discussed here. Reigning AL CY Young winner, best lefty in the AL and 2016 All-star Wright fronting the rotation are not good enough? Get real. You’ll still walk away with the division. Must be nice to be a Boston sports fan the past decade…
SamFuldsFive
But hey, the Orioles have the best record in the ALE the past few years. That’s, uh, something…