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timyanks
no indication that chicago is unlikely…double negitive. are the sox willing? or not?
Priggs89
Obviously they’re willing if the price is right.
CubsRule08
I think he meant to say St Louis wouldn’t strike a deal before the season starts…
timyanks
fixed
dewssox79
dont see a match with the cards
CompanyAssassin
I do. Cardinals have several unknowns in pretty much the entire rotation. Only martinez seems solid. Lynn is just coming back, leake had a hard time, wainwright has been pretty terrible in spring training (don’t get me wrong I like him a lot) and wacha has had a long history of issues. I’d love quintana to come in as number 2, bump wacha to the pen, add more certainty.
CompanyAssassin
Also now with molina extended, I wouldn’t be surprised if they dangled kelly as the head trade piece with a package of others. I don’t think giving up kelly is smart but neither do I think having wacha in the rotation is. Would love to see a deal come up without reyes or kelly, but that may be impossible. Weaver, bader, others?
southi
I’d think that Kelly is exactly the type of prospect that could be included in a deal for Quintana. Kelly is young, has upside and plays a premium position.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
No, no, no….don’t you understand…Quintana is so good it’s the same as being great AND he has a great contract….it will take AT LEAST 30 or so Top 20 prospects to land him.
And if some team doesn’t want to give them 30 or so Top 20 prospects, Hahn can just wait until they find a way to do it.
therealryan
Should the Pirates look to trade their good, not great players on team friendly contracts for prospects that will help them when they’re ready to compete next? Obviously 3 top prospects is too much for a good player on a good contract who isn’t great, so how about 2 top prospects for Marte? Would you agree with that?
66TheNumberOfTheBest
The offers I propose for both Cutch and Cole are routinely shot down as being lopsided AGAINST the Pirates.
timyanks
it’s not a done deal yet
slider32
Right now it would take Glasnow, Meadows, and and 2 mid level prospects to get Quintana. The Cards don’t have those types of prospects. The Astros, Yanks, and Braves do.
Putmeincoach12
So, some team is going to give the White Sox 30 players in the “top 20” prospects for him. Once again, that’s 30 people in top 20.
Okay.
Take another hit from the bong bro.
mohoney
As a White Sox fan, a package containing Carson Kelly (roadblocked by Molina’s extension), Harrison Bader (roadblocked by Fowler’s contract), one of either Delvin Perez or Luke Weaver, and a project piece like Dylan Carlson, would get me to say yes.
sss847
an injured Reyes, Carson kelly, Harrison Bader, and some international bonus money could/should get it done.
Falls in between the sale/eaton returns
cards don’t seem like they’re conceding to the cubs like the rest of the division is
chesteraarthur
I’d be really curious to see the internal evaluations/valuations that the WS front office has on Alex Reyes.
Priggs89
Any chance he ever played college football? If so, Kenny would love to have him.
jdgoat
I could see the cards trading him too. They don’t know if he’ll ever come back strong so why not use him to bring down the value of the prospects they’d need to add in to get Q
terry g
Wondered when we get our daily Quintana’s not going anywhere but this team is interested report..
Jgiun1
Lol
Lance
He’ll be this year’s James Shields. Every other day, this web site will have some proposed/rumored deal involving Quintana so that by the time it happens, we’ll be relieved it’s over! 🙂
bsteady7
Nathan seems to still be effective. Why not have him come be your first guy outta the pen to stop a 6th inning rally?
Lance
I suspect someone will pick him up in the next couple weeks. We’ll see someone go on the DL and a team will need bullpen help.
aff10
I know handedness gets a bit overrated at times, but it’s tough for me to buy Hill’s assertion about his bullpen as #1 in the NL without a real left-hander. The bit about having a solid rotation, on the other hand, has to be a flat-out lie
TheMichigan
They have Cervenka in Triple A top
Travis’ Wood
A whole lot of nothing from Heyman, as usual.
IBFarr
I wish Coghlan had stayed with the Phillies.
blueblood1217
Any chance the Dodgers sign Nathan?
_kherz23
I have a Joe Nathan signed baseball from when he played on the Twins. Is it worth anything?
bravesfan
haha it’s worth has much as your little heart wants it to be worth. lol!!!
timyanks
at least the price of the ball
timyanks
only worth what someone is willing to pay
Lance
Good decision by Odor. He’s set for life. Limited risk for Texas. Rougy seems to have a good work ethic and continues to improve. In five years, the Rangers could wind up saving millions before he goes into his prime free agency years.
slider32
I don’t think the Cards have the prospects to get Quintana.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Depends on whether they part with Reyes. Without him, it’d be a tough sell, but he has the potential, if he comes back strong, to be significantly better than Quintana, good as he is.
chisoxjuan
Is Heyman & co this hard up for news? By now it should be obvious that the CHW aren’t going to take any team’s interest serious until they put 2 of their top 5 prospects on the table. If Heyman has a source for that, then it’s worth reporting. Of course that’s not enough. The rest of the deal has some room for negotation.
Either a 3rd ranked no worse than 10th, or two more ranked no worse than 25th.
Q will never be close to the power pitcher Sale is, but he’s battle tested & mentally strong. With little to no run support he’s quietly avg’d close to 25 quality starts a year. Put him on the Cubs & he’ll challenge the rest of that rotation for ace of that staff. Simply put Q is an ace potential pitcher signed to a deal comparable to a veteran reliever. That’s why the ask isn’t far from Sale’s.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I disagree. He’s steadier than most pitchers, but not dominant like Sale can be. I don’t just mean in power or K’s, but in terms of overall stuff. For their careers, Sale’s FIP is 0.4 runs lower, his WHIP is .18 lower, and if even with two relative down years, Sale’s WAR over the past 4 years is 3.6 higher. Over his career, he’s been the better pitcher, which is why there’s only one team on which he certainly wouldn’t be the ace (Kershaw’s still better.). Quintana may be the ace on a number of clubs, but not on most playoff contenders. He’s very good, but not great.
chisoxjuan
Again it’s a lot easier to pitch your best when you have a 2-3 run lead. That was common for Sale & as rare as it gets for Q. With the run support of a contender, he’ll have more dominant starts.
Priggs89
I guess it really depends on how you would define your rankings. Personally, I’d say he is a great pitcher. I would not, however, say he’s an elite pitcher. That title belongs to the Kershaw/Sale’s of the MLB (aka there aren’t many).
In regards to playoff contenders, he might not be the clear cut #1 on most of the top clubs going off last year’s standings, but performance/consistency-wise, you could definitely make the argument for him on a few (Baltimore, Toronto, Texas) plus a lot of the bubble teams (NYY, Seattle, Houston, Atlanta – if you think they’re a dark horse contender, STL, Pittsburgh). I’d also love to see what he could do with the North Side’s defense behind him. It would not surprise me one bit to see him put up nearly identical numbers to Lester.