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davidcoonce74
Man, Decker has had such a bummer of a career after what looked like a promising skill set of doubles power and good on-base skills. Oh well, It’s probably too late for him to do anything now. Just too many injuries.
And I think the fact that Christian Friedrich led the Padres in starts last year is pretty much the saddest thing I’ve read today.
sufferforsnakes
You ever notice that as athletes have become these specimens of incredible physical fitness, they seem to be hurt more?
Maybe they need to do like the old days and drink heavily while puffing on cigars and downing handfuls of black beauties?
johnsilver
Luis Tiant, all dressed up in one of those sports suits that were in style during the mid 70’s.. White of course that would stand out.. really big sunglasses.. Hat to match and ALWAYS puffing on one of the biggest cigars you ever saw..
man can’t tell u how many times I saw him like that, either after games in Winter Haven, or at Red Sox functions he would attend and if someone asked him a truly garbage question? the guy would mumble.. Always figured was telling the person off myself, but u could never quite understand what he was saying when he mumbled. Ask something decent? His English was outstanding.
sufferforsnakes
Yeah, I was lucky enough to see him pitch in Cleveland, back in the day. I miss players like that. Heck, I even miss those sorry Tribe teams from the 60’s and 70’s.
pjmcnu
Why on earth did Boston not reverse the Pomeranz trade when they first learned of his injury? Must have been pressure from the Commish office, like with the Marlins/SD trade. Otherwise, with not only the injury but Pomeranz’s history of injuries, Espinoza is just too big a price to pay for the likelihood of continual injuries on a guy of Pomeranz’s talent level. Risk it for a Price, sure. For a Pomeranz? No.
mulcahy01
Agreed! I don’t see how ” it was past the deadline” excuse works. The league gave you the opportunity to undo the trade.
bleacherbum
It was passed the deadline meaning that they needed a major league arm to fill a slot in their rotation. If they would have undone the trade they would have gotten Espinoza back but that doesn’t help the major league rotation. Pomeranz was still healthy just sore, he pitched well for Boston down the stretch. They wanted to get to the World Series last year and having Pomeranz on the team have them a better chance last year than not having him.
chuckymorris
I’m a Sox fan. It’s infuriating. Top prospect Espinosa for an injury prone-scrub. He’s pitching exactly how I thought he would pitch. He’s made for the NL. I feel in a few years this is gonna be looked back on as one of the worst trades ever. Hope I’m wrong
mike156
Speculating–Red Sox thought they had made a solid deal. At the time of the trade, Pomeranz was pitching very well. 5.9 H/IP, and 10.1 K/9. Maybe they thought they had another Porcello.
jakem59
They desperately needed another quality starter and the team had a very legitament shot at a title in Ortiz’s last season. Sending Pomeranz back and requairing a guy that wasn’t going to help them in the majors put them in a bind. Wright was hurt, Bucholz was trying to get his head straight in the pen and E-Rod was just starting to come around. You ain’t going nowhere with a two man rotation. You couldn’t redo that deal and put a quality pitcher on the bump everyday. Or did you want to see Sean O’Sullivan get a long look?
lovethatdirtyh20
That is an accurate assessment of the Sox situation. DD went for the win. Maybe he did overpay but I can remember many Sox fans clamoring for the Sox to pick up a starter and Pom was the best out there.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Yes with hindsight being 20/20 it was a bad trade. But as an outside observer they were in a no win situation. They were flat out lied to and the deadline had passed. Pomeranz had a resurgence and years of control. If they had time and pitchers on the market the result most likely would have be different.
outinleftfield
Got to laugh at Red Sox fans who try to call a player that never missed a start and was the 3rd best starter on their team from July 20th on an injury-prone scrub.
Pomeranz is a good pitcher. He was better than everyone not named Porcello in August and was the 3rd best pitcher in the 2nd half for the Red Sox. He got pulled from a spring training game and may still be ready for opening day.
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NicTaylor
Sox might fair better with Pom on the shelf. I’d rather them go with Kendrick at this point
lowtalker1
Dumb
They’re better with price on the shelf
jakem59
do you try to make one salty comment a day or does it just come natural?
mookiessnarl
Well, I guess the Sox rotation isn’t too left handed now. Pomeranz looks like he’s headed for surgery with all the arm trouble he’s had. Sure Espinoza has a long way to go before we can really evaluate that trade, but even looking at him strictly as a commodity, surely they could have made a trade with him for a sturdier pitcher.
outinleftfield
Latest news is he will miss one spring training start and may be ready by opening day.
thebighurt619
Well considering they dealt cashner and pomeranz, ross was injured, vargas was injured, perdomo didnt join till late, erlin went down, cosart-clemens-richard didnt join till late its not all that sad.
Itd be sad if he was their best option all season, but considering trades and injuries made it happen its not that bad.
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lovethatdirtyh20
The Sox went for immediate help last year in exchange for the future to strengthen themselves for a playoff run. Happens all the time and doesn’t upset me but I understand the love for Espinoza. He also has a long way to go to make the majors.
BaseballisLife
Pomeranz saw no loss of velocity with the Sox and didn’t miss any starts. What I remember is that the Sox asked him to stop throwing his 2 seam FB and he became much less effective with his 4 seam after that. Both of those pitches came out of the same slot with no difference to the hitter except for 4 mph slower 2 seam and a deep bite. Sox have to take some of the heat on that for taking an effective pitch out of his arsenal.
stymeedone
If JD Martinez does go on the DL, the Tigers will be able to keep all of their out of option players. Collins as part of the CF platoon. Moya to cover in RF. Machado as utility IF. Hopefully, JD will be fine, but you don’t get a second opinion if you’re fine.
TheMichigan
Yes you do.
I got a second opinion on my shoulder when it gave out in a game, when they said I had a dead rotator cuff, and the second opinion doctor said it was a severe shoulder impingement with a dose of tendinitis and that I would be fine if I attended PT. So I went from “your career is over” to “you’ll be fine” in around a week.
You always get a second opinion on any bodily injury.