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dcdc
The Nats can exercise Gio’s option even if it doesn’t vest, correct? So it seems irrelevant unless something tragic happens because $12m for a starting pitcher that doesn’t completely suck is cheap.
Steve Adams
Correct — I’ll make a note in there to make that more clear.
paytoplay
Nolasco
Steve Adams
Not a traditional vesting option, but notable that his club option can become a player option — in which case he’d likely exercise it, barring a huge finish to the season.
Thanks for bringing him up!
Lego4365
*2016 season
Lego4365
Sorry, wrong post
aff10
Iwakuma’s is the most interesting of these for me. A bad player on a seeming non-contender who seemingly has a fairly even chance to accrue enough innings. That one could get complicated later on, tough to see Seattle letting that happen
dwhitt3
Iwakuma is not a bad player
padresfan
Maybe they should stop paying them so much on these contract structures
If you don’t play at least avg you get the league min next year
thinkblech
Contracts don’t work like that. Under the current collective bargaining agreement, you cannot tie anything to the level of performance. And no, they shouldn’t stop paying them so much – no one is crying over the big bang theory cast getting like a mil per episode, and better they get it than the producers, just like with players vs owners.
padresfan
They need to fix it
NFL can cut players and only promise x amount
If a guy is batting a career avg of .278, 25 homeruns a year etc etc for an example
Signs a massive deal
Then spends the next 6 years batting 210 with 4 homers per year ?
Not cool
Nothing to that extreme but we have all seen it happen
thinkblech
Why would the MLBPA agree to non-guaranteed contracts? The NFLPA is the weakest union in American organized sports, their model is not something to be emulated. It doesn’t work like this in other countries, at all. Real Madrid just spent $67 million on a 16 year old who can’t play for them for another two years – what would Hunter Greene get if it were an actual free market? What would Bryce Harper have gotten? We got a snapshot of that with Moncada/Yadier Alvarez/etc, and it was pretty intense.
The owners are raking it in, and they certainly wouldn’t lower ticket prices if salaries were reduced; they would continue to charge whatever the market will bear. I hope the players get as much of the pie as they can.
padresfan
Why should they allow this
I know they want the most bucks from the ownership
I understand the process
I’m just fed up with players getting a huge pay day then turning into crud
jdodson1822
Ricky Nolasco? I think he has one for innings pitched over last year and this year
Steve Adams
Not a traditional vesting option, but yeah he can convert his club option to a player option with enough IP in 2017. It’s not likely, but it’s definitely possible if he gets into a good run here.
Thanks for bringing him up!
Tiger_diesel92
I’m so lost of what you type for Matt graza, like what exactly he needs to trigger the 2018 option?
Steve Adams
Basically, it won’t trigger. His option will be a $5MM club option. He needed 110 starts over his four years, plus 115 IP in 2017 and a clean bill of health at the end of the year. He’s missed enough times in the first three years that the option won’t vest at $13MM and will be the base value of $5MM — which can be exercised or declined at the team’s discretion.
A-A-Ron
I’m fairly certain that your Iwakuma information is not correct (per cot’s) It is a club option for 10m IF his innings total doesnt hit/vest. If it vests, then his 2018 salary is 15m. So me as a mariners fan would much prefer if he does not get the innings this season as im pretty sure that his future is not bright. I’d much prefer the 15m get spent elsewhere (Lucroy?)