The Mets reportedly came into the offseason focused on five starting pitchers, one of whom was Jason Marquis. The Staten Island native reciprocated that interest, however as Adam Rubin of The New York Daily News tweets, Marquis doesn't know what the Mets offered him exactly because he told his agent to only share "serious" offers with him.
The 31-year-old Marquis opted to a sign a two-year, $15MM deal with the Nationals in December, while the only starters the Mets imported this offseason were Josh Fogg, R.A. Dickey, and Hisanori Takahashi on minor league deals.
Thanks for this non-story, non-news, non-anything. What’s the point of this type of post?
Why is it necessary to complain about a post when Mike is doing something nice?
DAMNIT WEBSITE WHY DO YOU MAKE ME READ YOU
Oh well, He was a bit pricey and he never did excite me to begin with.
Water under the bridge.
Why was this necessary..? We all know the Mets made no strong pushes for any starters (maybe Piniero?). But it is too late for anything now. Besides a trade, hopefully including GMJ
If you don’t like the post move along..If it was such a bad post why even take the time to comment on it
This is pretty pointless..
^This comment, on the other hand…
…why is everyone so mean on this…
You can’t make a negative unnecessary point and then ask why people on this website are mean.
But it is pointless. Why should we care that a sub-par pitcher wasn’t given a a serious offer in his mind by the Mets?
Because on a day where there is obviously no hot stove news, Mike created a conversation for us to have. If you don’t like it, dont comment on it.
There is a point when they say they are going to go after pitching, then don’t make any major pitching acquisitions. Then someone who was supposed to be one of the major people on their radar says they were making joke offers.
When will people wake up and realize Jason Marquis sucks? People bring up how each of his teams have made the post-season every year, but he’s only pitched in the post-season 5 times (not a tremendous record either). He was terrible in the 2nd half last year (4-7, 4.56 ERA) as he is EVERY year of his career. He’s right up there with Eric Byrnes and Brad Penny when it comes to second half duds. He has a terrible LD/GB/FB split; He either gives up a groundball or a flyball.
“People bring up how each of his teams have made the post-season every year.”
That’s one of those superstitious joking around stats.
He either gives up a groundball or a flyball.
I think that’s only in the odd years. In the even years he either gives up a flyball or a groundball.
You can look it up.
He has value the same way that Livan Hernandez used to have value.
1. You know what you are getting
2. He never gets hurt.
3. Innings have value.
4. He can hit (which isn’t factored in but should be)
I would also think that in New Shea he would be better.
It’s not a crazy offer. The Mets need known quantities. I’d rather have a guy who goes 6 innings at 3 runs (4.5 era) all the time then a guy who goes 7 innings 1 run then 2 innings 5 runs.
I think the Mets are holding out for something bigger. They have some good prospects and their offense is gonna be great this year (i’m being as objective as anyone can be).
Don’t waste draft picks and money on some guy who is only gonna stay around for two years and have a an Era over 4.50.
Blame Adam Rubin for even Tweeting this.. Marquis succs..Period. Lackey was the only pitcher worth signing this winter and Boston made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Spring Training is here and the Mets are prepared to go with what they have, so am I. Lets move on
Sheets also was worth signing.
Rubin has had it out for Omar for a while now..he can make a story about the mets not having a minor league system then next week praise ike davis, mejia and f-mart…( never mentioning omar picked them up )
File this under ‘Who cares’.
Whats the point in this ?He’s already with the Nationals so whats the point in talkin about it!
How awful… Omar didn’t wanna overpay for a crappy SP. We already have Ollie, Castillo, Bay, krod and Cora grossly overpaid we didnt need a ~5.00 FIP pitcher making 7 million. Piniero on the other hand at 2 years 17.5 woulda been amazing.
At least Omar only made one mistake (albeit a mild one) in Bay this off-season and did a damn good job building the BP.
Mets fans can whine all they want about how bad Marquis is but at the end of the day he’s still better than what they are going to be running out there.
You do realize that Pelfrey, Maine, and even Oliver Perez have better career FIP’s than Marquis right?
Not sure what point you are trying to make
the point is marquis is not an upgrade to the rotation.
However potential SP on the trading block may include Cliff Lee, Brandon Webb, Roy Oswalt. It would suck if the Mets maxed out on payroll and were not able to pick up one of these guys.
He’s not nearly as bad as you people make him out to be. He’s definitely an upgrade to Perez and whoever is going to be the #5, and probably Maine given his health problems.
i dont think a 2 year commitment to jason marquis should be considered over
picking up a real #2 starter…if the plan is to hold out and potentially
look at webb/oswalt/lee…i give omar alot of credit for holding back
I don’t think they are really related. If the Mets plan on picking up someone in a trade then they are planning to compete. If they want to compete then Marquis would be a much better fit than someone who is so inconsistent like Perez. I don’t see how having Marquis would prevent them from trading for one of those guys. I’m not saying that the Mets should have signed Marquis, but they can’t possibly be planning to compete with the rotation that they have right now, yet it seems like they are.
because the salary jason wanted would prevent them from picking up a more expensive option ( at least if u believe the story of the mets not having any money )
Oliver Perez proving again today that he sucks. Jason Marquis proving today the Mets were right to not pony up for him. Walked the bases loaded in a Spring Training game, gave up five with Mets still batting in the 2nd.
Classic Oliver Perez, gives up four runs, Mets come back to give him a lead, which he can’t even hold for an inning. You can pay me a fraction of what he’s making to do the same thing.
Both Marquis and Perez gave up 5 runs today. Heh..
we need pitching and a 2nd baseman and our stipid and the worlds dumbest g.m. do nothing.would somebody take them please. crying met fan
What he said. As I said in one of the previous Mets discussions……all Marquis is good for is a 4.50 or so ERA. The problem is, the Mets can get the same results simply by giving Jon Niese or even Nelson Figueroa the 5th starters job. We don’t need average pitching. We need better then average pitching, and that’s something that Marquis, Garland, ect were unlikely to fit going forward. Lackey was the one guy who fit the bill, and he got overpaid by Boston, and he never really seemed all that interested in NY anyways. Pineiro was interesting, but a pretty sizeable risk given his history and the fact that most pitchers regress Post-Duncan.
If there was one mistake in the Mets pursuit of a starter, I would have liked them to have made more of a run at Edwin Jackson, but then again, I wouldn’t have traded a Max Scherzer for him if I was Arizona, so perhaps not getting him is for the best because I dread to think of what the cost would’ve been.
Not to nitpick on the Olney story, but I wouldn’t rule out the Mets using the “broke” card as a negotiating ploy, and that catching wind with the media….. but somehow we magically went from having simultaneous offers for Molina and Pineiro to “not being able” to pay Yorvit Torrealba whatever he was asking for. That probably says more about Torrealba then the Mets finances.
1) 35 pitchers last year threw 200 innings, or about 1.17 pitchers per team. Even if the Mets only have 2 pitchers who could do it, they’re already ahead of most teams. Getting innings from your starting rotation isn’t only a Mets problem, it’s a league-wide epidemic.
2) Marquis has been in the league since 2000 and only has 3 200 inning seasons. The one thing you can supposedly “count on” him for, he only does about 30% of the time. That’s not all that impressive when that’s your best trait as a pitcher. Nevermind the obvious that getting a ton of innings from a guy isn’t all that valuable when he’s giving you average (at best) innings.
I hear you, but here’s where I went south on Ollie and the rationale for the big contract: he pitches big against the best teams. This is an example of the Mets deluding themselves into believing something that’s just not true. During the last week of the ’08 season when the Mets were battling for a playoff spot, Perez got a start against one of the best teams, the Cubs, who had already clinched the NL Central. After falling behind 1-0, the Mets rallied and gave him a FOUR RUN LEAD, powered by a clutch grand slam by Delgado. He gave the lead back and they lost.
By contrast the year before during THE COLLAPSE, on the second to last day of the season John Maine pitched a 1-hit shutout against the Marlins while the Phils were losing to the Nats, lifting the Mets into a tie for first place. Both Maine and Perez are question marks this year, but I just think Perez is done. BTW, Marquis looked worse than Perez today, and that’s saying a lot.
People forget Maine pitched 26 consecutive scoreless innings at one point in his first year. When healthy, he’s good, no question. On a related matter, Wright hitting well early, likin’ that.
– Wait, you’re discounting years where he was Injured? Isn’t the whole point of being an “Innings Eater” that you have the ability to stay healthy? That doesn’t make any sense.
– If 190 is close enough to 200 innings, then where do you draw the line? 185 innings is close enough to 190. 180 innings is close enough to 185, ect. We can keep playing this game all day. The point of drawing the line somewhere, is it eliminates “close enough” scenarios. You set the bar at 200 innings because it’s a nice and even number. Fact is, he’s only reached that bar 3 times in his career, out of 10 seasons. 9 if you want to ignore his rookie year.
190 innings isn’t all that impressive anyways, and btw, both Maine and Perez have 190 inning seasons under their belts. If those seasons are somehow proof that Marquis is an innings eater, then isn’t that also some evidence that Maine and Perez have had seasons where they have done so themselves?
– What’s the problem with a league-average innings eater? Well, the fact that he’s a LEAGUE AVERAGE PITCHER for one. He’s NOT ANY GOOD. Whats the point of getting innings out of a pitcher if you’re not getting GOOD innings? He’s not helping your team win by being mediocre. That’s the point you seem to be missing. There would still be absolutely zero discernible difference if the Mets plugged Niese or Figueroa in that role. Hell, at least Niese has upside, something Marquis clearly doesn’t have.