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2012 Options Notes: Wainwright, K-Rod, Sabathia

By Mike Axisa | February 24, 2011 at 1:02pm CDT

Some rumblings about 2012 options from around the league…

  • The Cardinals could still pick up the 2012 ($9MM) and 2013 ($12MM) options they hold on Adam Wainwright even though he's having Tommy John surgery, writes Joe Strauss of The St. Louis Post-Dispatch. A pitcher of Wainwright's caliber is a bargain at that price, even if he doesn't get back to being himself until midway through the 2012 season. The options will not vest now that the right-hander will spend the season on the disabled list.
  • When asked about the possibility of the options not being picked up and becoming a free agent, Wainwright simply told Strauss "I think I'd end up doing all right."
  • SI.com's Jon Heyman says (on Twitter) there's a zero percent chance the Mets will allow Francisco Rodriguez to finish the 55 games needed to vest his $17.5MM option. The player's union figures to be vigilant, especially if K-Rod is healthy.
  • Rival GMs told Heyman (on Twitter) that the chances of Yankees ace CC Sabathia opting out of his contract after the season are "100 percent." Sabathia was non-committal when asked about the clause two weeks ago.
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  1. ellisburks

    10 years ago

    In other news about Sabathia opting out, water is wet.

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  2. monkeyspanked

    10 years ago

    CC opting out will probably end up a good thing for the Yankees. Dude’s arm is gonna fall off eventually. He’s gonna get all Bartolo Colon on his next team.

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    • Chuck345

      10 years ago

      I fail to see how this could be a positive thing for the Yankees.

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    • ACra

      10 years ago

      Sabathia is not going anywhere. He will opt out of the contract, but only to get more money out of the Yankees. He will have 4/92 remaining on this deal entering his age 32 season. Given the lack of quality free agent pitchers available in 2012, Sabathia would be a fool not to opt out. The Yankees will simply open up the purse strings like they always do.

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    • Verlander_Will_Save_Us_All

      10 years ago

      Didn’t he just lose a ton of weight. You can’t “get all Bartolo Colon on his next team” when he is doing the exact opposite of Colon.

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      • icedrake523

        10 years ago

        He had a ton of weight to begin with, so it’s not like he slimmed down to the size of the Old Spice guy.

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  3. Mike Homer

    10 years ago

    How long till Heyman writes something spinning CC opting out as a positive for the Yankees?

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    • 0bsessions

      10 years ago

      He already did, it’s right above your comment.

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      • monkeyspanked

        10 years ago

        Hey I’m not Jon Heyman. But I’d like his job…

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        • Kickme Inthenads

          10 years ago

          Them’s fightin words. Next thing you know he’ll say something about your mother.

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          • Verlander_Will_Save_Us_All

            10 years ago

            What? Did that make any sense?

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            • Green_Monster

              10 years ago

              Well it kind of ma… No

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            • Kickme Inthenads

              10 years ago

              Well the guy called him John Heyman. John Heyman is regarded as the used car salesman of baseball reporters on these here boards, therefore many would consider it an insult. When you make fun of someone’s mother, that is also considered an insult. I was likening being called John Heyman to someone insulting your mother. Let me know if you guys need an explanation on any other complicated topics such as how to tie your shoes.

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              • Chuck345

                10 years ago

                I think it’s more of the fact that you didn’t reply directly to the person who made the Jon Heyman accusation and people were confused.

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              • 0bsessions

                10 years ago

                If no one gets your joke, odds are your joke just wasn’t funny in the first place rather than being too complex for the audience. Unless you’re Andy Kaufman. Are you Andy Kaufman?

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        • icedrake523

          10 years ago

          His job is the best. Just tweet everything you hear and write an article once a month with an occasional TV/radio appearance every now and then.

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  4. nictonjr

    10 years ago

    Wainwright doesn’t seemed too concerned about his options being picked up. If the Cards decline them and try to low-ball him, I could see the Yankees leveraging him against CC. TJ surgery is pretty predictable. Getting on of the top SPs at a discount, compared to Lee or Sabathia, wouldn’t be the worst thing…

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    • johnsilver

      10 years ago

      Leveraging Carpenter against Sabathia? Carpenter will be 36 the 1st month of 2011 and 37 next season.. Gonna be migghhtyy hard leveraging that very much. Not even that blow hard Boras could do much with that one.

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      • ubercubsfan

        10 years ago

        I believe nictonjr said Yankees’ would use Wainwright against CC if the Cardinals don’t pick up the ’12 and ’13 options.

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    • Kickme Inthenads

      10 years ago

      I think the quote about his options was before the injury, not positive though.

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    • ACra

      10 years ago

      Tommy John surgery typically has a success rate of 85 percent with a timetable for return of anywhere from 8-18 months. Even if Wainwright didn’t return to mid 2012, his options are very team friendly at $9 and $12 million, respectively. Given the lack of quality in this upcoming free agent class in regards to starting pitching, I’d say it’s a pretty good bet that they will exercise those options. Even if he is out for a portion of 2012, it is worth it IMO.

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  5. ritz

    10 years ago

    LOL @ my comment about Heyman being deleted.

    Go read what he said about Luis Castillo on Twitter before Castillo showed up to camp. He deserves to be called worse than what I called him. I’m not a Castillo fan, but no one deserves to be talked about like that. Especially from a “professional”.

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    • ubercubsfan

      10 years ago

      This site is notorious about deleting posts. I’ve had a few that got deleted that would have made it on broadcast TV. (I bet this gets deleted by the censor man now!)

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      • ritz

        10 years ago

        I call it like I see it. The Mets have deserved plenty of criticism over the years, but right now other than ownership “issues” there’s really nothing to be critical over and if you’re going to do it, do it constructively. Heyman has a big problem with that. He always posts his riduclous speculation on Twitter with absolutely no basis. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and usually I take it up with him on Twitter, but seriously, what he said about Castillo REALLY rubbed me the wrong way as it was VERY unprofessional. Sorry to go on a rant and this post isn’t even about Castillo, but Heyman’s comments just…ugh. /rant

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  6. Chuck

    10 years ago

    Wainwright finished second in the 2010 Cy Young. According to Cot’s baseball contracts, his 2012/13 vested if he finished in the top five. It also says they can be voided if he ends 2011 on the DL.

    So…the options became guaranteed years with the Cy Young voting, and the contract says the OPTIONS can be voided…but they’re no longer OPTIONS, they’re guaranteed. What am I missing here? It seems he is under contract through 2013 regardless of injury.

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    • nictonjr

      10 years ago

      He has to finish 2011 not on the DL. Kind of a 2 part vesting that Cot’s doesn’t have on their site…

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  7. ibleedorangeandblack

    10 years ago

    if C.C. Sabathia opts out, which it seems like he will based on everything ive heard, i will be even more depressed in baseball, baseball players, and humanity in general. dude is set to make 23 million a year for four years to do something he LOVES!!! and its not enough? id be stoked to make a living (far below major league minimum) playing baseball. if and when C.C. opts out, i will lose a lot of respect for the guy. he may be a good person, he seems like he’s a hard worker, but when 23 million a year isnt enough, thats crazy selfish and crazy greedy

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    • Jimmy

      10 years ago

      I dunno man, if everyone (and common sense) told you that you could get a hefty raise if you asked for one, but you felt like you were being paid fair market value for your job, are you telling me you wouldnt ask for one? The absolute numbers are different, but the principle remains the same. If you can get more money for doing what you love to do, why not? Are we really concerned about the bank accounts of MLB owners?

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    • 0bsessions

      10 years ago

      Soooooo…you’ll lose respect for him if he opts out of his current deal to get more money, but you’re currently maintaining respect for him, despite the fact he went against his initial insistince upon playing on the west coast to chase that extra $20-60 million to go play in NY?

      WHY IS THIS LOGICAL INCONSISTENCY SO PREVALANT ON THIS WEBSITE?!?!

      Me, I’ll be proud of the guy for bilking as much money as he can out of a broken system, because gosh darn it, that is the American Way.

      (Cue rockets red glare and videos of Eagles crying and Dodge trucks or something)

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  8. Melo Sigonavich

    10 years ago

    so sick of contract talk, this is SPORTS…cant ne one talk about the sport or the players performance ne more?? thats all you hear , contracts, money,etc….and all for ratings…its pathetic

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