The White Sox are off to an 11-22 start and are already 11 games back of the Indians in the AL Central, but the team isn't ready to start making major changes just yet. ESPN's Buster Olney reports (on Twitter) that the club's decision makers will give the team time to turn things around before making adjustments.
Ozzie Guillen's squad has a bottom five ERA in the AL as both starters (4.08) and relievers (5.27), and their .667 team OPS is fourth worst in the league. To make matters worse, their team -10.1 UZR is second worst in the AL. That's a lot to turn around, though it's still plenty early in the season. Earlier today we heard from Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that Edwin Jackson, Mark Buehrle, John Danks, and Carlos Quentin are all candidates to be moved, should the team decide to sell.
This team has been bad so far….but what really needs to happen is we need to rebuild the farm. I have no problem trading those guys. As much as I like all the players above we really need to get some young guys going in the AAA and AA teams.
I wonder who they would trade though. Mark and Carlos are both possible but I don’t think the return would be that big. Dare I say that Paul Konerko could be on the move. That Peavy trade is looking terrible right about now.
The return in terms of bounty of prospects might be low for Quentin but he’s still worth a top 50-75 prospect and maybe another lower level guy not quite yet on the radar. He’s having a good year.
We’ll help you restock the farm with a couple OF/SP prospects…send Carlos over here
Hey whats White, Black, and has a bottom??
Does a cubs fan really have any room to make fun of any team?
UMMM who says I’m making fun of a team??? And i guess you figured out what it was!!! lmao don’t like your own medicine?
That didnt make any sense at all
i wonder how much it would take to get Matt Thornton. Surely a reliever in a walk year won’t draw that much of a return but he will still be a valuable commodity. I know people are gonna throw the matt capps thing around on how he got Wilson Ramos but thats a different situation…a blocked prospect and a CLOSER for 1.5 years.
It is no longer a walk year for Thornton. He signed a 2 year extension in march worth $12MM guarunteed with a $6MM club option for 2014.
ahh yes i forgot about that. Still, he might be available.
It would be pretty foolish for Kenny Williams to sign Thornton to an extension when his value is at his highest, and then turn around and trade him right when his value has cratered.
So, what I’m saying is we can pretty much guarantee Thornton will be traded.
I wonder who KW would ask for if the Yanks were interested in EJax?
for a guy in a walk year, i doubt it would be too much. It would have to be worth more than the 2 first round draft picks though…
I don’t know. He does have an era near 5 and would probably accept arb if he has a bad year.
They shouldn’t do anything until they fire Ozzie and Kenny Williams and get rid of the constant drama and bickering this team has.
I still find it hard to believe that Buehrle would be moved. The Sox would very likely have to kick in a fair amount of money to get any kind of return for him.
Yeah the Sox look ready to sell. I do think Ozzie will be fired soon and Kenny is soon to follow but probably not till after the season. John Danks is probably their best trade chip. What they really need is relief. Anyone think Peavy might approve a trade to contender if he comes back healthy?
If Kenny is no longer GM, it’s because he has been named president with Rick Hahn the new GM. Even though Reinsdorf loves Guillen, Reinsdorf’s been quoted that the GM can fire Guillen. But after all the public problems with Guillen last year, the Sox still signed Guillen up for the 2012 season…which speaks volumes.
What the Sox obviously need is their hitters to start hitting.
Kenny will wait until at least June to sell. He did so last year and the Sox turned it around when interleague play started.
Peavy has to prove himself healthy before any team would want him plus teams would have to be convinced he would remain healthy…a bigger concern. If there’s a fit, no reason for Peavy to decline unless he just doesn’t like the new city for reasons beyond baseball. He has said on more than one occasion that he wants that ring.
Ozzie won’t be fired. They’d trade him to FLA first.
Personally, I do think the Phillies are going to put together a prospect duo/trio in order to obtain Carlos Quentin. Ben Francisco, to be fair, hasn’t been terrible this year, but offers to real confident protection behind Ryan Howard. I think Quentin’s bat would just be an overall better force in that lineup that what we have currently. We were looking at Carlos in the offseason as a possible R-handed OF bat to help replace some of Jayson Werth’s offensive production, but a deal was never done and here we are…If the Sox are still at the bottom of the AL Central by the deadline, I see a deal getting done to bring Quentin to Citizens Bank Park…Even though I would much rather figure out a way for the Phillies to trade for Delmon Young (he also has 1 more arbitration year and hits the FA market the same time as Quentin, and, like Quentin, plays on a team that could be finding itself in a potential ‘sell’ mode at the deadline…), I think the Twin’s asking price for Young this season might be higher than what the Philllies would be willing to part with. Carlos is a more realistic option, and a bat that I would probably give up a couple/few prospects for in order to see him in the lineup…Even though he cannot hit left-handed pitching to save his life, and his fielding is in the mediocre range, I still think if he can stay healthy and move back to the NL it could help propel him back to 2008 form…there is nothing exciting at all on the FA market this year as far as outfielders, and with the Phils now as a perennial contender I think it would definitely make sense for them to try to power-up and bring in Young (I wish….) or Carlos Quentin (definitely an upgrade to our current RF)…Spread the word! I’ll trade for either one!
The Phillies farm system is weak right now Just wait for Domonic Brown to come back
Weren’t the Phills system ranked 11th by BA?
yea there is still a decent amount of potential talent, especially in OF and SP, but a lot is currently at the lower levels–19/20/21 year old kids that still will be in the system for 2-3 years at least…Brown is likely taking over for Ibanez, and will especially get playing time this year in Left if Ibanez continues to struggle..but I think the general consensus is that the Phils could go with a proven power hitter (such as Quentin or Young) as an upgrade to our current RF..either of those guys provides decent options for 2012 also, so we would have a full year and a half of Quentin or Young before they hit FA in 2012…I really think a deal is going to get done for Quentin
I agree..The farm team needs to improve…
Mark Buehrle and Paul Konerko because he can play 3B to the Cardinals for Mark Hamliton becuase he’s behind Albert who’s going no where,Joh Jay,Miller,Draft picks and so on.Teahan,Floyd,AJ,Juan P. could also be traded.