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Quick Hits: Mets, Darvish, Ozzie

By Dan Mennella | September 4, 2011 at 9:15pm CDT

A few stray items of note as a quiet Sunday winds down on this holiday weekend:

  • A Mets official told Joel Sherman of the New York Post that the organization's high-ranking officials have been discussing the possibility of going into complete rebuild mode in 2012 rather than piecing together a passable team and selling it to the fans as a playoff contender if everything breaks right. It's already widely accepted that the Mets will reduce payroll from this season's $140MM down to the $110-100MM range, but Sherman's source makes it sound like it could be even more than that.
  • Is Japanese right-hander Yu Darvish worth the potential $100MM a team might have to spend to acquire his services? David Brown of Yahoo!'s Big League Stew looks at that question.
  • One factor that could dissuade the White Sox from firing manager Ozzie Guillen is the possibility of him landing with the Cubs and helping to make them a winner, tweets Pedro Gomez of ESPN.com.
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  1. Steve Miller

    14 years ago

    After the Dice K debacle I dont know why any team would shell out 100 mil for a pitcher again, lets be honest, the best pitcher to come out of japan was Nomo and he was never a 100 mil dollar pitcher

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    • vtadave

      14 years ago

      Well like the amateur draft, it’s always about “potential”, and from everything I’ve read and seen on Darvish, he has that in spades. I’d take Darvish at $100 million over C.J. Wilson at around the same price, as the upside with Darvish is just tremendous.

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      • MattCMoore

        14 years ago

        Me too. But I very much dislike Wilson…

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        • StevenStCroix

          14 years ago

          Wilson is a douche

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        • Rabbitov

          14 years ago

          CJ Wilson isn’t getting 100 million, so its a moot point. 

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          • start_wearing_purple

            14 years ago

            I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility, he’s been front line starter for a couple of years now and that includes half of his starts being in park where the ball is pretty much a superball.

            That said, I really don’t think he’s worth $100M. But with the yanks potentially in on the bidding…

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  2. timmytwoshoezzz

    14 years ago

    If the Mets shift into total rebuilding mode, doesn’t that make the no-trade of Reyes look all the more foolish?

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    • start_wearing_purple

      14 years ago

      Well I think you’ll have an answer to that question when we see what the Mets final bid on Reyes is and the Mets total payroll for next season.

      Edit: Though I think this is something that they should have figured out months ago. The fact is they knew they had financial problems and a lot of money was coming off the books this offseason. If they didn’t have a tentative plan in place by last July then they’re challenging the Dodgers for the title of worst run organization this year.

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      • MattCMoore

        14 years ago

        Some really good prospects would have been alot better than just 1 draft pick for reyez.

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        • East Coast Bias

          14 years ago

          Possibly. But would it be better than trying to sign Reyes, and if you don’t succeed, then at the very least, you get a few draft picks?

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          • Jon Stark

            14 years ago

            yes, yes it would, particularly if you could get some nice prospects that have already survived a year or two of professional ball/development. 

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            • start_wearing_purple

              14 years ago

              Too late to be crying over spilled milk.

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            • East Coast Bias

              14 years ago

              My point is that the best option is to resign Reyes, and you should function with that in mind, trying to resign him at season’s end. Second best option would be prospects, and third the draft picks.

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              • timmytwoshoezzz

                14 years ago

                Why is the best option to resign Reyes?  Mets had Reyes healthy for much of the year and playing out of his mind, and still didn’t sniff the playoffs.  If the organization is three years or more away from competing, and if they decide to go all-in on rebuilding, then what good does paying Reyes 20M a year do for the team?  They would be MUCH better of putting that money into the draft and international talent and getting a plethora of talent they can build for 2014-15

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  3. andrew555

    14 years ago

    I like how Pedro Gomez was linked to a player on baseball reference because they have the same name. I got a good laugh, I know this Pedro Gomez is not 20 years old in the Houston organization.

    Don’t worry, I’m not over here complaining/nitpicking. I just get a good laugh out of these sometimes.

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  4. JacksTigers

    14 years ago

    It’s bad enough that we have to hear Ozzie complain three times per year that Wriggley smells like pee, imagine how much he would b*tch if he had to play 81 games there.

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  5. Bob9988

    14 years ago

    I’m not sure why Seattle isn’t being mentioned.  I know from a baseball point of view that its probably not a good idea considering the state of the M’s hitting, but its just the kind of thing the Mariners JAPANESE ownership would do.  Ichiro was a rock star there and he is getting older.  The M’s would like to keep the Japanese viewership up by getting another young exciting Japanese player.  I don’t see it as out of the question.  And remember, the player doesn’t get all $100 million of it.  The team he is posted from gets the initial bid, the player only gets the signed contract ($50 mill or so for Dice-K).  The M’s have made it clear in the past that they don’t consider the posting fee to count against their payroll.  So in essence, Dice-K signed a 5yr $50 mill deal, not too bad in today’s market.

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  6. jay-2

    14 years ago

    Has Pedro ever heard of all the things Ozzie has said about Wrigley Field and its fans? Never going to happen.

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    • rfffr

      14 years ago

      But if it did happen and Ozzie brought the Cubs a ring he’d never had to pay for anything on the North Side ever again. 

      Reply
  7. soxxy

    14 years ago

    Prediction, Ozzie stays w/Sox, Kenny Williams is replaced by Rick Hahn, Greg Walker walks.

    Reply
  8. Brian M

    14 years ago

    I would not at all be surprised if Ozzie Guillen winds up landing in Minnesota in some capacity.  It’s the type of move that Guillen would relish.  He loves the way the Twins go about their business and he’d get to be a thorn in the side of the white sox.

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  9. marcfrombrooklyn

    14 years ago

    By my math (after a quick peak at Cot’s), the Mets have a ton of cash coming off the ledger from guys who are gone or won’t be back: Betran ~$20M, Castillo $6.25M, Perez $12M, K-Rod ~$12M, Igarashi $1.75M, Young $1M. Other mid-range players like Pelf, Pagan, Hairston, Paulino and Byrdak will get raises or will go elsewhere, while the youngsters like Niese, Murphy, and Parnell will get small raises. So do Santana and Wright. I don’t see why the Mets cannot field a competitive team with a $100M to $115M, with or without Reyes, and amount the team can certainly handle with all the off-the-books revenues from concessions, merchandise, and SNY that they don’t talk about. No need to go into a multi-year rebuilding mode. It’s not he early 90s anymore. Contending teams come and go much quicker these days when, especially with a $90+M payroll the Wilpons can handle.

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  10. marcfrombrooklyn

    14 years ago

    By my math (after a quick peak at Cot’s), the Mets have a ton of cash coming off the ledger from guys who are gone or won’t be back: Betran ~$20M, Castillo $6.25M, Perez $12M, K-Rod ~$12M, Igarashi $1.75M, Young $1M. Other mid-range players like Pelf, Pagan, Hairston, Paulino and Byrdak will get raises or will go elsewhere, while the youngsters like Niese, Murphy, and Parnell will get small raises. So do Santana and Wright. I don’t see why the Mets cannot field a competitive team with a $100M to $115M, with or without Reyes, and amount the team can certainly handle with all the off-the-books revenues from concessions, merchandise, and SNY that they don’t talk about. No need to go into a multi-year rebuilding mode. It’s not he early 90s anymore. Contending teams come and go much quicker these days when, especially with a $90+M payroll the Wilpons can handle.

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