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Albert Pujols Deciding Between Cardinals, Marlins

By Luke Adams 2 | December 7, 2011 at 2:14am CDT

The competition for the biggest prize on the free agent market doesn't appear to be the two-horse race we expected. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (via Twitter) that the Angels are also pursuing Albert Pujols. Joel Sherman of the New York Post adds that an AL official insisted to him today that the Angels were in on Pujols, though an official with the Halos denied it (Twitter links).

In today's mammoth recap of Pujols rumors, we heard that three teams have extended offers of ten years and at least $200MM to Pujols — the Marlins, the Cardinals, and a mystery team. While the Cubs were also reported to still be interested, the Angels may represent that mystery club. Here are the latest updates on Pujols, with the newest on top:

  • Yahoo's Tim Brown tweets that the Angels are "definitely not in on Pujols," but that the Cubs have made contact.
  • The Marlins offer to Pujols includes provisions that would link Pujols to the Marlins beyond his playing career as a way to show their long-term commitment without including no-trade protection, writes Stark.
  • Pujols' future "won't be decided tonight," tweets ESPN's Jayson Stark.
  • Juan C. Rodriguez of the Miami Sun-Sentinel tweets that a Marlins source told him they're not expecting an answer tonight.
  • The Marlins haven't given Pujols a deadline or ultimatum, says Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post (on Twitter). A decision may come before sunrise, and Capozzi hears the Marlins are "very confident" (Twitter link).
  • Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio and ESPN.com hears from a source that Pujols is down to the Marlins and Cardinals, "period" (Twitter link).
  • Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi have a complete story up at FOX Sports on the status of the Pujols negotiations, including the Angels' interest. Within the piece, the FOX scribes say the dollar figure the Marlins are offering is acceptable to Pujols, but the two sides are "trying to work through no-trade issues."
  • Mike DiGiovanna of the Los Angeles Times spoke to an AL GM who said "no way" to the Angels' rumored interest, while Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe says the Cubs are "definitely not" in on Pujols (Twitter links). Whether or not those two clubs are involved, the Cardinals and Marlins still appear to be the favorites.
  • Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com (Twitter link) spoke to two Angels people who were "shocked" to hear they were considered the mystery team for Pujols. However, Danny Knobler of CBS Sports and Jon Heyman of MLB Network are both hearing that it is, in fact, the Angels (Twitter links).
  • Joe Frisaro of MLB.com tweets that the Marlins were hoping for resolution on Pujols soon, but it's looking less likely it will happen tonight.
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193 Comments

  1. MB923

    14 years ago

    Looks like we may have found the mystery team.

    Reply
  2. Corey Lancaster

    14 years ago

    B A N A N A S

    Reply
  3. LightUptheHalo

    14 years ago

    No Way, even as an Angels fan

    Reply
    • fejimanz

      14 years ago

      but would you be pissed off if we did in fact pull of this crazy signing (i agree with you though, i am sure we have no chance)

      Reply
    • RyÅn Krol

      14 years ago

      The Angels are the only top high market team without that one player everyone goes to the ballpark to watch play. That and having a billionaire as an owner puts them in a position to get this done.

      Reply
      • abes_seed

        14 years ago

        But we gots VW!!!

        Reply
      • Jerry Rice

        14 years ago

        but we have the Rally Monkey (who has been making more appearances than we would like to see)

        Reply
  4. The_Moose

    14 years ago

    Lolwut? Kendry Morales…?

    Reply
    • Mike

      14 years ago

      Albert Pujols > Kendry Morales

      Reply
      • The_Moose

        14 years ago

        Truth, and I suppose him coming off an injury is a bit risky, but they need starting pitching more, no?

        Reply
        • EightMileCats

          14 years ago

          I don’t know that they need starters with Weaver, Haren, Santana… At least not front of the line starters. Maybe a solid 8th inning guy… Pref with some late game expierence. That way he can help the walden kid along as he develops

          Reply
        • fejimanz

          14 years ago

          if they sign pujols they will make a trade for pitching, either Trumbo & prospects… or another package with callaspo, pbj & prospects… both should get us a really decent pitcher or more… and teams have already contacted the angels in regards to the availability of Callaspo and PBJ…

          Reply
      • vtadave

        14 years ago

        Way to go out on a limb.

        Reply
        • Kyle Haker

          14 years ago

          intentional pun?

          Reply
        • Mike

          14 years ago

          Way to add substance to the conversation.

          Reply
    • sourbob

      14 years ago

      Kendry Morales was so freaked out when he heard about the Angels pursuing Pujols that he promptly leapt out of his seat… and shattered his ankle.

      Reply
    • Ryan Klinkert

      14 years ago

      Injured the last 2 seasons…lolwut?

      Reply
  5. Serdar Sirin

    14 years ago

    Can they afford both Wilson and Pujols? Don’t see them going that hard after Albert.

    Reply
    • Rangersfan32 2

      14 years ago

      With how cheap they were last year, it’s more likely that they get priced out on both guys.

      Reply
      • Andy

        14 years ago

        Uh, we took on the worst contract in baseball by trading for a guy getting paid $21 million a year. That may be a lot of things, but it’s not cheap. Also, we have a new GM so last year is irrelevant

        Regardless, this rumor is totally false.

        Reply
        • Rangersfan32 2

          14 years ago

          I’m talking in regards to their recent pursuit of free agents (Crawford, Beltre to name the most recent ones) for long term, high dollar contracts. The fact that the Angels FO panicked last year when everyone blew up on them for not signing those two FA’s and traded for a ridiculous contract doesn’t change a thing.

          Reply
          • Halosfan777

            14 years ago

            But starting clean in your FO and appointing a new GM does “change a thing”. It’s a completely different FO from last year so how do you know what they are going to do this year?

            Reply
          • OCAngels

            14 years ago

            Two different GM’s… Reagins was late on everything.  The deals and even the winter meetings-he was a day late).  Dipito I hope is inteligent and has a lot of assistants.  Trust, the Reagins era is OVER, so let’s all forget about it.

            Reply
        • Kyle Haker

          14 years ago

          Zito resents your comment about worst contract.  He got the same contract and was just as ineffective thank you very much

          Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      They can’t even afford Pujols…

      Reply
    • fejimanz

      14 years ago

      if they sign pujols they have a lot of trade bait that they could use to probably get more pitching… 

      Reply
  6. notsureifsrs

    14 years ago

    that’s weird. they usually wait until after another team signs the player to deny their interest in him

    Reply
    • Commander_Nate

      14 years ago

      JeDi mind trick, you fell for.

      Reply
  7. Vagina Coastguard

    14 years ago

    now he can go west, central, or east the possibilities are endless  

    Reply
  8. Kyle Haker

    14 years ago

    The O’s will happily take Kendry off your hands! they will even let you pay the contract!

    Reply
  9. ryanfea

    14 years ago

    I’m drooling right now

    Reply
  10. Raymond Holguin

    14 years ago

    wtf this came out of left field, where the heck are we gonna put him and what happened to the tight budget constraints?  unless there are some trades in place for some of our high price players i dont see this being legit

    Reply
    • Ryan Klinkert

      14 years ago

      Moreno has long maintained that he’ll splurge on the “right” deal. 

      All these reports about Dipoto having only $15-$20 million to spend are predicated on simple math- figuring out the current difference between last year’s payroll and their current payroll. That range was never a ceiling imposed by Angels’ brass.

      Obviously Trumbo or Morales would be shopped. Transitioning Trumbo to third is always an option but there are concerns (and rightfully so) about his ability to adequately defend the position.

      Moreno has the money though. He’ll easily exceed the 20 year/1.6 billion dollar cable deal that the Rangers recently signed, and averages over 3 million in attendance each year. 

      Reply
      • vtadave

        14 years ago

        So Vernon Wells was the “right” deal?  I’ve seen Trumbo play third in the minors – not pretty. Don’t see this happening, but I could see Wilson and Ramirez coming to Anaheim.

        Reply
      • Mike

        14 years ago

        I agree. People are up in arms about the reported spending limit the Angels have. The reality is that they don’t have one that is set in stone and if Moreno wants someone badly enough, he’ll shell out the cash to get the player. My gut tells me they’ll keep Trumbo, but I could see them moving Morales for a relief pitcher or two if they decide to spend big on a first baseman.

        Reply
    • $3513744

      14 years ago

      Where are you going to put him?  Do you need to be reminded about who this guy is?

      Reply
  11. Triple Hawpes Brewed

    14 years ago

    Make it happen. I wanna see what kinda damage he can do in the AL.

    Reply
  12. Melvin McMurf

    14 years ago

    This is starting to look like last year:   Angels are into everyone but sign NO ONE

    Reply
  13. Tbell16

    14 years ago

    This is by far the stupidest post i’ve seen

    Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      14 years ago

      scroll down a bit. the mets gave jon rauch 3.5 mil

      Reply
  14. Matt Tolich

    14 years ago

    not gonna happen, but as an Angels fan, YES PLEASE. Who cares about anyone else – if you can get the best player in baseball, DO IT. TWICE.

    Reply
    • Mike

      14 years ago

      I’d honestly rather spend the money on Fielder, but I wouldn’t complain if we landed Pujols. I highly doubt either of those scenarios will happen, but I also wasn’t expecting the Angels to sign Vlad back in 2004 when he was one of the hottest commodities on the market. I’ll agree that the Angels claim interest in just about every big name in free agency, but sometimes they surprise people and actually sign a big name.

      Reply
  15. Adam R

    14 years ago

    Yeah, right.

    But what the hell, Arte, You light your money on fire for bad players, lets do it for a good player.

    Reply
    • Goose

      14 years ago

      LOL. 

      Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      agreed! 

      Reply
  16. cards2WS

    14 years ago

    *sigh*
    Great.
    *sigh*

    Reply
  17. Thurman8er

    14 years ago

    Grain of salt, grain of salt, grain of salt.  Just keep saying it with me.  Grain of salt…

    Reply
  18. Cavman_Boland

    14 years ago

    Who needs Pujols… They have Vernon!

    Reply
    • Melvin McMurf

      14 years ago

      u ruined my moment

      Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      He will turn it around next year! Mark my words he will hit .230! ;D

      Reply
  19. HARRISON ROSE

    14 years ago

    I guess this is why they were shopping Ervin Santana among others? Makes sense since they will have Abreau, Hunter, and others coming off the books soon enough.

    Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      They would shop Santana if they signed Wilson, but that makes no sense to me either. 

      Reply
  20. Charliesmithm

    14 years ago

    We all no that he is goin to the fish the fish r trading sanchez to the brewers to cover 3D and the brewers will have fielder

    Reply
    • Charliesmithm

      14 years ago

      I hope it happens
      Reply if u like my Idea

      Reply
    • Charliesmithm

      14 years ago

      I hope it happens
      Reply if u like my Idea

      Reply
  21. The_BiRDS

    14 years ago

    Can we get details of all 3 contracts please?

    Reply
  22. Charliesmithm

    14 years ago

    Brewers ROCK

    Reply
    • Charliesmithm

      14 years ago

      They lose megehee

      Reply
  23. Liam_Ho

    14 years ago

    That Vernon Wells acquisition is hurting even more now.

    Reply
    • Melvin McMurf

      14 years ago

      and will for the next few years

      Reply
      • Goose

        14 years ago

        Key word being “few.” The Halos will be fine.

        Reply
        • Kyle Haker

          14 years ago

          with Napoli in and Wells still in TOR they make the playoffs last year and have the money to make this actually happen. so define “fine”

          Reply
          • Eddie Millhauser

            14 years ago

            They have a ton of talent in the minors as well as current players as well, they are really close to being a playoff team. That is fiine

            Reply
        • Liam_Ho

          14 years ago

          A few years is a big deal.

          Reply
  24. Andy_B

    14 years ago

    Lol if only they hadn’t traded Napoli for Vernon Wells

    Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      Well Napoli wasn’t going to have that sorta season in Anaheim anyway. Sosh doesn’t like him.

      Reply
      • Andy_B

        14 years ago

        I don’t fault the Angels for trading Napoli, no one knew including Toronto the year Napoli would have.  Giving the jays anything for Wells, well yah I do fault them for that.

        Reply
  25. Jay

    14 years ago

    I hope Albert leaves the Cards

    Reply
    • The_BiRDS

      14 years ago

      Great comment buddy

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        14 years ago

        someones sensitive

        Reply
  26. BravesNomad

    14 years ago

    As a Braves fan Albert going west to LAA would not hurt my feelings a bit, at least then we wouldn’t have to face him in that marlins lineup 19 times a season.

    Reply
  27. Eddie Millhauser

    14 years ago

    I don’t buy this. But if it shapes out to be, I’ll love it, hes the best player in the MLB so why not? If so Trumbo better learn how to play Third base.

    Reply
  28. JesseR

    14 years ago

    As an Angels fan I would of like Albert Pujols 5 years ago.. Not now.. Id prefer Prince Fielder he is younger and is about to hit his prime.

    Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      Prince may be the better option but if you have that opportunity to get the games best player are you gonna say no? I doubt it…

      Reply
  29. Kyle Haker

    14 years ago

    No way this happens.  Angels will wait for 5 years and take him and his whale of a contract off someone’s hands for a good hitting catcher.

    Reply
    • Joe Wright

      14 years ago

      LOL Yup

      Reply
  30. Joe Wright

    14 years ago

    This makes sense.. 4/200mil Arte is that stupid.. GO AFTER FIELDER

    Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      Fielder, Pujols, who cares? If you can get either the angels will be in WAY better shape then they are now. If you say you DON”T want the best player in baseball for your team then you should just leave now. 

      Reply
  31. E Scalez

    14 years ago

    Arte gets left holding his nuts last off season. Panics and signs off on Wells deal. Fans boo this man. Gets revenge on long-term nemesis Scott Boras with team friendly extension for Weaver. Marlins make huge impact offer to Pujols. Arte is still stewing with anger at Marlins over getting blueballed by them in the Miguel Cabrera trade talks. Arte goes to the safe. Arte is a Vatican Assassin. 

    Reply
  32. Jared Pfeifer

    14 years ago

    This is ridiculous. Probably the most insane thing I’ve heard in 5 years. That said, I’d be stoked if the Angels signed Pujols…but it is not happening.

    Reply
  33. bighiggy

    14 years ago

    if you guys got pujols, would you trade the cards morales for kyle mclellan

    Reply
    • Ryan Klinkert

      14 years ago

      Borderline 5th starter for a perpetually injured Cuban slugger? Deal.

      Reply
    • E Scalez

      14 years ago

      only if you sign McClellan to a long and expensive extension first.

      Reply
  34. Madman2TX

    14 years ago

    Would be a great bat in the Angels lineup, but another team that I find hard to believe is willing to offer that much money over that much time. If they sign Pujols and Wilson, that’s even more money tied up.

    Welcome to the Angels, home of the bad baseball contract.

    Reply
  35. Jameson VanDyke

    14 years ago

    Angel faithful here. I see this maybe as a ploy to make CJ sign before they “forget about him and go after Pujols” or make Marlins pay even more so they can not afford Wilson. Angels would never make this deal so stop speculating, stop getting your hopes up and move on. They would sign Fielder before AP any day but that isn’t happening either. Pujols stays with STL and Wilson signs with the Marlins. Angels pick up a starter via trade.

    Reply
    • 12DenoEbel12

      14 years ago

      “They would sign Fielder before AP any day”
      why hello Mr. Jerry Dipoto

      Reply
  36. RyÅn Krol

    14 years ago

    The Angels are the only top high market team without that one player everyone goes to the ballpark to watch play. That and having a billionaire as an owner puts them in a position to get this done.

    Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      he doesn’t want to spend the money though because they will already have a top 5 payroll WITHOUT Pujols.

      Reply
      • Jameson VanDyke

        14 years ago

        We go to watch the whole team not just one player. This contract would be a horrible mistake 4 years from now. 3 million + fans every year since 06, no need for A.P.

        Reply
    • Kyle Haker

      14 years ago

      being a billionaire is irrelevent.  The yankees can buy whatever they want because their profit is godly.  The Angels may be in a huge market and make a lot but no where near the Yanks and as a billionaire businessman he will want to stay in the black as often as possible

      Reply
      • Jameson VanDyke

        14 years ago

        Angels make a lot of money as a business, especially with a new 1.6 Billion dollar deal going through this year but I agree they don’t make as much as Yankees. Throwing money at a player doesn’t win you a World Series. Ask Boston.

        Reply
        • Eddie Millhauser

          14 years ago

          ask the Miami Heat as well.

          Reply
          • Paul

            14 years ago

             Not the same sorry, Heat stayed under the cap and werent the number 2 team payroll wise.

            Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      14 years ago

      ever heard of that guy weaver? or that dude haren..

      pretty good i heard

      Reply
      • LightUptheHalo

        14 years ago

        true, but only once every 5 days

        Reply
    • Ray DeRousse

      14 years ago

      The Cardinals have a billionaire owner, too.

      Reply
  37. angelfaithful33

    14 years ago

    8 years 200 million?

    Reply
  38. Cole

    14 years ago

    sign pujols… trade izturis & abreu/hunter plus cash to the A’s for gio gonzales, move wells to right and put trumbo in left.  Anyone?  does hunter have a no-trade clause though?  the A’s need outfielders…

    Reply
    • Eddie Millhauser

      14 years ago

      If anything Trumbo would go straight to RF. Hunter doesn’t have a no trade clause. I highly doubt they would take that trade (the A’s) unless the Angels payed nearly 100% of their contracts.. its a ton of money adding up right there.

      Reply
      • Cole

        14 years ago

        it would definitely be a best-case scenario for the angels, but i can dream right?  and yeah, he could go straight to right, i guess he did play more right field than left last year, and wells is already used to playing left. but it’s still less than signing pujols AND wilson or kudora… and i think gio has more upside.

        Reply
        • Eddie Millhauser

          14 years ago

          They would have to do a trade like that because if you sign Albert the payroll is bust.

          Reply
          • Cole

            14 years ago

            agreed

            Reply
    • vtadave

      14 years ago

      You seriously think that is what Beane is looking for in a Gio Gonzalez deal?

      Reply
    • Paul

      14 years ago

       Someone is still playing MLB 2k12…..

      A deal for gonzales will require trout or trumbo.

      Reply
      • Cole

        14 years ago

        or peter b.  that would require less cash…  but sh*ttier trades have happened… (hehe i’ll stop now)

        Reply
  39. Lunchbox45

    14 years ago

    I think if Pujols was going to stay in STL he would have signed by now no?

    Reply
  40. _A_

    14 years ago

    As much as I like pujols. thats a very steep price. Woudnt doubt if Moreno was pushing Jerry to talk with Pujols.

    Reply
  41. Joe Wright

    14 years ago

    NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.. THE ANGELS ARE KNOWN TO NEVER EVER EVER SIGN STARS LIKE PUJOLS.. BUT THEY GO AFTER VERNON WELLS (FACEPALM)

    Reply
    • Sammy L.

      14 years ago

      but they do have a new gm

      Reply
      • Jerry Rice

        14 years ago

        ..and the same old Manager who loves small ball and thinks we need more SP over someone who could hit one out of the infield + we have the same “Marketing Genius” Owner – this is nothing but smoke and mirrors to stimulate ticket sales..

        Reply
    • Rangers4Life

      14 years ago

      Two words. Vladimir Guerrero.

      Reply
    • sports33

      14 years ago

      Dude… Only one Creature. It’s not you. Don’t be the guy that piggybacks on other peoples ideas.

      Reply
    • sports33

      14 years ago

      Dude… Only one Creature. It’s not you. Don’t be the guy that piggybacks on other peoples ideas.

      Reply
  42. Sammy L.

    14 years ago

    I believe that the Angels are just trying to keep the Marlins occupied on Albert so that the marlins lose focus on c.j. making it a two team race for him, although i would love to sign albert, somehow squeeze in wilson, then package trumbo, santana, and callaspo/izzy something else for possibly wright or zimmerman, and send vernon to the rangers so he can rake

    Reply
  43. Ryan Knox

    14 years ago

    There is no longer a journalistic standard among the Ken Rosethal’s of the world, I bet I could put on a suit, walk around that hotel in Dallas say the Royals have made Pujols an offer, and in 20 min. it would be all over twitter… Hey Rosenthal, just heard the Marlins inquired about Brett Farve, go report that…

    Reply
    • Peter Olesiewicz

      14 years ago

      There should be a ranking system for percentage of times they are wrong.

      Reply
  44. rsanchez1

    14 years ago

    Looks like it will all come down to which city Pujols likes best.

    Reply
  45. angelfaithful33

    14 years ago

    ***CONFIRMED***  Marlins offered Farve a contract!

    Reply
  46. cookmeister

    14 years ago

    Doubt this happens.  But if Arte can stand having a bumped up payroll just for 1 year, then you have some pretty decent $$ coming off the books next year in Abreu, Hunter, and Takahashi.  Only way i would give Pujols 10 years is if i were an AL team though, that way he can DH down the road.

    Reply
  47. angelfaithful33

    14 years ago

    We already have Kendrys and Trumbo.  This is just for media purposes.  In other news Tony Reagins is back with the Angels.  He is head cashier at the slushy stand

    Reply
  48. angelfaithful33

    14 years ago

    Tony “BIG SPLASH’ Regains

    Reply
  49. $3513744

    14 years ago

    the mystery team is the yankees

    Reply
  50. angelfaithful33

    14 years ago

    Yankees?? Could be… no way he goes to the Angels… Do we sign CJ wilson?  5 Years 84 million

    Reply
  51. Willzsco

    14 years ago

    If the Angels get Pujols, I’ll barf up a lung.

    Reply
  52. NYBravosFan10

    14 years ago

    Come on Pujols just sign with the Cardinals already and stop driving the Marlins hopes up. Everyone knows that you are just trying to get the Cards to raise their offer by pretending to buy into what the Marlins are offering.

    Reply
  53. cards2WS

    14 years ago

    At the word “period”, I blacked out for like 10 seconds. The suspense is astronomical!

    Ugh. I’m disgusted I put anything that says ‘astro’ in it.

    Reply
  54. Madman2TX

    14 years ago

    Pick the Marlins–Le Bron, er Albert!

    Reply
  55. cards2WS

    14 years ago

    Honestly, isn’t a 10 year deal pretty much a no-trade clause in it’s own? Who’s gonna take on a contract like that?

    Don’t leave AP!

    Reply
  56. cards2WS

    14 years ago

    Honestly, isn’t a 10 year deal pretty much a no-trade clause in it’s own? Who’s gonna take on a contract like that?

    Don’t leave AP!

    Reply
  57. NYBravosFan10

    14 years ago

    Giving Pujols an ultimatum is like slapping him in the face. This is a huge decision for the poor guy. He either remains where his legacy, restaurants, charities and family is along with a ballpark that’s packed everyday with loyal fans and on a team that is a serious playoff threat year after year and playing in great weather or he goes to a team with no guarentee on how many people will be at the ballpark to support him, no guarentee on how your team will perform being in a tough division and moving indoors (that roof will be closed everyday, ever been to Miami?) is never easy. The only good thing about the Marlins is the money, which just happens to be the most important thing in most cases. Just let him make his decision, it’ll come soon enough. 

    Reply
    • cards2WS

      14 years ago

      “loyal fans” and “playoff threat year after year.”

      This man knows what he’s talking about.

      Reply
  58. NYBravosFan10

    14 years ago

    Giving Pujols an ultimatum is like slapping him in the face. This is a huge decision for the poor guy. He either remains where his legacy, restaurants, charities and family is along with a ballpark that’s packed everyday with loyal fans and on a team that is a serious playoff threat year after year and playing in great weather or he goes to a team with no guarentee on how many people will be at the ballpark to support him, no guarentee on how your team will perform being in a tough division and moving indoors (that roof will be closed everyday, ever been to Miami?) is never easy. The only good thing about the Marlins is the money, which just happens to be the most important thing in most cases. Just let him make his decision, it’ll come soon enough. 

    Reply
  59. YankeeLifer

    14 years ago

    The Expos are getting Puljols.

    Reply
    • cards2WS

      14 years ago

      Mystery Team!

      Reply
  60. YankeeLifer

    14 years ago

    The Expos are getting Puljols.

    Reply
  61. Triple Hawpes Brewed

    14 years ago

    The Cubs were never a threat to land Pujols by virtue of them being the Cubs.

    Reply
  62. Triple Hawpes Brewed

    14 years ago

    The Cubs were never a threat to land Pujols by virtue of them being the Cubs.

    Reply
  63. CommissionerBart

    14 years ago

    I’m normally more favorably disposed toward the Marlins than the Cards or Angels but for the life of me I can’t see why Albert would want to go play in the disturbed circus-of-horrors atmosphere that Ozzie thrives on creating when he manages a team. Add in the Reyes-Ramirez soap opera of angst that is unfolding in Miami, and who the heck wants to play in that kind of anxious, hostile atmosphere?

    Re-sign with the Cards, Albert. You’re already loved by what may be the best fan base in baseball. And you’ve had great success there. Who knows how the Marlins’ new stadium will play? Who knows if they will be playing before empty seats? 

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    • NYBravosFan10

      14 years ago

      and what happens if they get no fans? No fans=no revenue. No revenue=no money to pay the players. No money to pay the players=alot of things that basically add up to you’re just plained F*c*ed.

      Reply
    • NYBravosFan10

      14 years ago

      and what happens if they get no fans? No fans=no revenue. No revenue=no money to pay the players. No money to pay the players=alot of things that basically add up to you’re just plained F*c*ed.

      Reply
    • Ryan Knox

      14 years ago

      That new park looks like it will play much like Petco and Comerica, its huge. I can understand getting a guy like Jose Reyes, he’s fast, can turn doubles into triples in a park this big and isn’t worried about his power numbers.

      Pujols is a line drive hitter, would probably do well in a ballpark like this, but his home run numbers would take a hit, not sure how he’d handle that,

      Miami would be smart to build a team around this ballpark and focus on pitching, however, so far this off season we’ve seen they have no actual plan for constructing a team, just offer contracts to anybody and everybody.

      Reply
  64. CommissionerBart

    14 years ago

    I’m normally more favorably disposed toward the Marlins than the Cards or Angels but for the life of me I can’t see why Albert would want to go play in the disturbed circus-of-horrors atmosphere that Ozzie thrives on creating when he manages a team. Add in the Reyes-Ramirez soap opera of angst that is unfolding in Miami, and who the heck wants to play in that kind of anxious, hostile atmosphere?

    Re-sign with the Cards, Albert. You’re already loved by what may be the best fan base in baseball. And you’ve had great success there. Who knows how the Marlins’ new stadium will play? Who knows if they will be playing before empty seats? 

    Reply
  65. YankeeLifer

    14 years ago

    i would be surprised if he does not stay with the Cardinals. If he does not then there really is no loyalty in baseball even with the amount of money, fan base, and legacy he has achieved there.

    Reply
    • cards2WS

      14 years ago

      The Marlins would be surprised if he DID stay with the Cardinals.

      Disappointment… Thanks for the memories AP. You’ll always be a Cardinal no matter what uniform your wearing.

      Reply
      • YankeeLifer

        14 years ago

        I honestly think Tony La Russa leaving might have something to do with it. Just my opinion. Maybe he wants to have a fresh start somewhere else or be closer to his family in florida.

        Reply
        • cards2WS

          14 years ago

          I don’t think so. Albert knows Tony wasn’t gonna be there much longer. The man is old. If he didn’t retire this year, then next year for sure. Albert wasn’t gonna base his future on one year of Tony. Plus, him and Matheny are friends. Not like there’d be a problem with the two.

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          • YankeeLifer

            14 years ago

            Well no real good reason to leave an organization which he’s won two championships, great fan base, championship caliber team and not to mention he is St. Louis. He is as Derek Jeter is to New York.

            Reply
            • Donskoy

              14 years ago

              But will the Cardinals overpay to keep him because he brings so much more than stats to the team? Jeter didn’t exactly give a discount…

              Reply
              • YankeeLifer

                14 years ago

                well you’re right. Jeter did not give them a discount but he also means much more to the Yankees then just stats. He is the face of the Yankees. No one comes to mind more than Jeter when thinking New York.

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            • cards2WS

              14 years ago

              I agree on all your points. I thought it was gonna take at LEAST over 25 mil more than the Cardinals offer to pry him away. I hope this is all just a marketing ploy to try and get Albert some more money, meaning Albert knows he’s gonna choose STL, but he’s faking interest in Miami to raise the price. I’m fine with it as long as STL doesn’t pull an A-Rod and go crazy on us.

              Oh, and i honestly believe that the Cards can afford Albert at a 25-26 AAV even in his twilight years. DeWitt is loaded. Whether or not he ponies up is the question.

              Reply
        • Ryan Knox

          14 years ago

          His family lives in St. Louis and Kansas City….

          Reply
    • Ryan Knox

      14 years ago

      I’m not convinced he’s going anywhere, the Marlins are incredibly annoying, but considering the situation, for a guy that’s maintained winning is his top priority, its hard to justify leaving a team that just won its 2nd world series in 5 years, for a team that finished 30 games behind the first place Phillies.

      There are a handful of franchises in this game that you don’t leave willingly unless its on bad terms, New York (AL), Boston, St. Louis are among the top of that list, Albert can play the rest of his career in St. Louis, have statues built in his honor, have his number retired have streets named after him and all that other good stuff as well as a fan base that’s going to be far more understanding as he ages and his number decline, or he can go play in Miami, a team who’s tradition is 2 world series championships, then the fire sales that followed, and year upon year of 2,000 people in attendance every night, Jeff Conine, Livan Hernandez and about 3 days of Mike Piazza. If in the end it comes down to a few million dollars here or there, or 1 year when he’s 42, then either he really cares nothing about the history of the game and his place in it, or he’s horribly stupid. As this off-season loomed, I worried about the Yankees and Red Sox coming in and out bidding us by millions and millions of dollars, I can understand a guy leaving one historic franchise for another, to maybe give himself a few more years as a DH and have shots at a World Series or 2, I’d still despise him for doing it, but its far more reasonable than leaving the St. Louis Cardinals and all the history and tradition of that franchise for the Miami Marlins…

      Reply
      • cards2WS

        14 years ago

        1

        All of your points are true and reasonable. Does Albert care though? Does it matter to him all of these great things you have mentioned? If not he’s a Marlin. If so he’s a Cardinal.

        Either way: I’m clapping for him on Opening Day.

        Reply
        • Ryan Knox

          14 years ago

          I’m not, if he leaves St. Louis the team he JUST won a world series with, for a team that finished in last place, then everything he ever said about how great the fans are, how much he wanted to be here, how much he wanted to be like Stan Musial, how much winning meant to him would all be a flat out lie, in the end, nothing appears to have mattered to him but money if he goes to Miami, a team like I said, that finished in last place, has a gigantic ballpark that will ruin him if anything out of frustration, a team with a history of destroying anything they ever accomplish, a team that has no clear identity and a team that has the worst fans in baseball. I refuse to cheer for a guy that lied all those years, and in the end screwed us.

          Nobody will ever respect Alex Rodriguez the way they once did, no matter what he accomplishes, people will always consider him a guy that was more interested in money than anything else, if Pujols goes to Miami, he’s no different, Respect is how people feel about a guy that played his entire career with the same team, Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken are the best examples I could possibly give in recent history. They will always be more respected than Rodriguez. Albert can have his choice of who he wants to be. Its really his choice, if he’s more interested in his paycheck showing how good a player he is, or if he’s more interested in being respected for merit and accomplishment on the baseball field.

          Reply
      • angelfaithful33

        14 years ago

        Ryan Knox= John Mozeliak

        Reply
        • Ryan Knox

          14 years ago

          If that was the case, this deal would have been done by now.

          Reply
        • Ryan Knox

          14 years ago

          I’d rather have Bill DeWitt’s Job personally, I’d actually fork out a little more cash to have this deal done, add Mark Buehrle while I was at it, and fire Bill DeWitt III who has no business at all speaking in public or being the president of a baseball team.

          Reply
    • Zuidvogels

      14 years ago

      A Yankee fan talking about loyalty.. I have seen it all now(just joking here, busting your chops :))

      Reply
    • Paul

      14 years ago

      What about loyalty to the player? Albert gave them all but this past season to negotiate an extension. Also he turned down their offer and how long did hte cardinals wait to up their offer? oh unitl the marlins upped theirs to 10.

      Reply
  66. Diablo 2

    14 years ago

    Chance’s of Halos landing Albert wow it would be nice to have him but i want to see him next year as a Card..

    Reply
  67. cards2WS

    14 years ago

    No answer?! Well this is nerve racking.

    Reply
    • baseball52

      14 years ago

      There goes my day.

      Reply
  68. Thomas Walker

    14 years ago

    Eagles all over again

    Reply
  69. nestleraisinets

    14 years ago

    of course there will be no signing tonight.

    It will be featured in the ESPN special “The Decision”

    wait for it………………………………

    Reply
  70. Liam_Ho

    14 years ago

    If the Marlins really are committed why don’t they just include the no trade clause, simple as that.

    Reply
  71. Andy_B

    14 years ago

    Joe Strauss of the St Louis Post Dispatch is reporting the cards upped their offer to 10 years 220 million, if so I can’t see how he’s not going back to the cardinals.

    Reply
  72. Bill German

    14 years ago

    well if the Angels sign King  Albert that opens alot of trading chips IE Morales Trout Trumbo Izzy WOW we could get alot pitching for them

    Reply
    • Zuidvogels

      14 years ago

      Why in God’s name would you trade Trout when Hunter and Abreu are both gone next season? That makes no sense what so ever.

      Reply
  73. Jason Matthew Bossert

    14 years ago

    Theres a new team in WV Pujols is going to that team

    Reply
  74. Zuidvogels

    14 years ago

    Seriously? Comments have to be approved by moderators now?

    Reply
  75. Zuidvogels

    14 years ago

    ** Breaking News: Angels have reportedly moved on from Fielder and Pujols and now in talks with the White Sox for Adam Dunn. The Angels are thought to be offering Santana and willing to pick up both players contracts in any deal. All though in most baseball circles this deal does not make sense, but in Looney tune land, otherwise known as LA it’s considered the perfect Angels deal. A rival executive is claiming that Kenny Williams was seen talking with AA of Toronto and Leonardo Dicaprio, apparently to train with the Jedi Master himself and to get tips on planting ideas into the minds of his rival executives. -(insert random reporter trying to make a name for himself and get hits on his twitter account here)

    Reply
    • Guest 5830

      14 years ago

      Sounds like a good move, unless you factor in he was paid like 185,000$ per hit last year

      Reply
      • Zuidvogels

        14 years ago

        That’s a good deal considering the paid Wells 190K per hit 🙂

        Reply
  76. jwsox

    14 years ago

    the angles are the only ten year offer team that makes sense..they are in a huge market have rich owners and have the one ability that the marlins and cards dont have. The get to move him to DH when he gets old

    Reply
  77. jwsox

    14 years ago

    ike davis has a problem with trading trumbo for wright

    Reply
  78. tomzig

    14 years ago

    I really hope the Marlins sign Pujols.  It would be absolutely hilarious for the Mets to only get a 4th round pick and a sandwich round pick from losing Reyes.  

    Reply
  79. fisk72

    6 years ago

    I’m gonna guess……Angels. Just a gut feeling.

    Reply

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