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Central Notes: Garza, Cubs, Ryan

By Dan Mennella | December 3, 2011 at 7:42pm CDT

A few items to share from the Central divisions on this quiet Saturday evening …

  • Cubs starter Matt Garza's agent, Nez Balelo of CAA Sports, told the right-hander to brace himself for an "active Winter Meetings," tweets Carrie Muskat of MLB.com. We heard on Monday that the North Siders are "open for business" on the 28-year-old, who is under team control through 2013.
  • Cubs owner Tom Ricketts told ESPN Radio 1000 in Chicago today that he is working on a contract extension for president of business operations Crane Kenney, according to Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com. "When I look at the Cubs, we have Crane on one side and Theo on the other. I believe I have the best team in baseball," Ricketts said.
  • Twins GM Terry Ryan is the subject of an interesting piece by Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com. Ryan resigned from the same position with the Twins in 2007, citing burnout, but has returned to the post, apparently re-energized, after several years of scouting. Crasnick notes Ryan's biggest chore will be fortifying the pitching staff and adds that there's a "real chance" the Twins could re-sign reliever Matt Capps.
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  1. EL CABALLO 626

    14 years ago

    Place your bets, were will Matt Garza be Opening Day 2012
    A) Yankees
    B) Red Sox
    C) Rangers
    D) Cubs
    E) Other

    Reply
    • Jason Zenk

      14 years ago

      D.

      Reply
      • KyleB

        14 years ago

        Rays

        Reply
    • Bryce_Ridenour

      14 years ago

      What about a Garza/Alonso trade? If the cubs don’t get Pujols they are going to need a 1B.

      Reply
      • vtadave

        14 years ago

        ‘fraid Alonso for Garza isn’t enough.

        Reply
      • imachainsaw

        14 years ago

        lol Prince.

        Reply
    • QCCubsPerspective

      14 years ago

      Rangers in a heartbeat. That team wanted him before he went to the Cubs and they could use him. Garza for Olt, Perez, and Ogando.

      Reply
    • Justanotherfantoo

      14 years ago

      1. Unknown team that overpays for him in a trade
      2. Yankees
      3. Red Sox
      4. Other team that offers a rational package
      5. Cubs

      Reply
  2. Rob Miller

    14 years ago

    Cubs need pitching so trading Garza would be stupid. Trade Big Z and Soriano.

    Reply
    • KyleB

      14 years ago

      It takes 2 to trade…do any other teams want Z or Soriano?

      Reply
  3. Joe Costello

    14 years ago

    I was super pissed they didn’t go with Sandberg.  I am super pissed they are letting go of Aramis.  If they trade Garza… I will hate the Cubs as much as any other Cubs fan does.

    Reply
    • dudemanbro

      14 years ago

      out of those three things, only one of them can be considered a rational reason for being pissed off at the cubs (hint: it’s the last one)

      Reply
      • Joe Costello

        14 years ago

        Ha, yeah… I get that.  It just makes me mad anyway, right or wrong.  Why the hell does Zambrano still get to be a Cub, and not Sandberg?  I don’t want to hear that garbage that he didn’t manage in the big leagues before…hey, neither did Ozzie Guillen, Bob Brenly, or Mike Scioscia.  But they won rings within two years.  Sure, this is the Cubs we’re talking about, but the reasoning is stupid.  And Aramis…yeah, all he did was put up stats and production.  I know he dogged it, but who will replace the production?  Vitters will turn into Felix Pie, and we’ll be stuck with Jeff Baker.

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        • dudemanbro

          14 years ago

          zambrano is a cub because no one wants him; theo didn’t think sandberg was qualified (and 29 other teams seem to agree); aramis will be producing in years that the cubs won’t be contending before declining into a waste of $12+mill, not to mention aramis didn’t want to come back in the first place

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          • Joe Costello

            14 years ago

            You make great points, you do.  But the whole 29 team thing…there were what, 4 openings total?  You have Mike Matheny, Robin Ventura, Bobby Valentine, and Dale Sveum as the guys replacing their clubs 2011 managers.  Of those guys, I THINK Ryno would be at least better than Ventura.  I’m not even upset that the Cubs hired Sveum.  I think Matheny will do the best with his new team, though.  I’m not even saying Ryno would be Casey Stengel… its just that as a Cubs fan, again…I don’t see any real reason, again, to be excited.  And sometimes I know you have to fall down to rise up… but. I don’t know.  I apologize for the whining.  I like you, dudeman, and you said it best…the Cubs won’t be contending.

            Reply
    • demonopie

      14 years ago

      There are 29 other teams who would love to have you.

      Reply
  4. Rob Miller

    14 years ago

    Hate to say it but I see him going to the Red Sox.

    Reply
    • EL CABALLO 626

      14 years ago

      I don’t think Theo will wanna deal with the Red Sox, plus they don’t have the prospects that would satisfy the Cubs

      Reply
      • Joe Costello

        14 years ago

        Cubs prospects don’t satisfy the Cubs.

        Ok, I know that Garza being a Cub wasn’t Epstein’s decision, but during Hendry’s tenure, he traded prospects, including Ricky Nolasco for Juan Pierre, a guy the Cubs wanted seemingly for years.  So he plays ONE YEAR for the Cubs and he’s gone.  They trade prospects for a guy FOR ONE YEAR.  Same with Garza?  An actual good pitcher with years left on his contract that they traded guys that the Rays will be able to use, and have used, and to just trade him for some prospects, who of course don’t always pan out…

        Oh yeah, but Carlos Zambrano who has quit on his team, fought them, and ripped on them still gets a chance.

        Screw Epstein.  Screw Ricketts.  Screw em all.

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        • jayrig5

          14 years ago

          If you go back through Hendry’s tenure, as I did last winter when he made the Garza deal (using MLBTR’s GM history page) and look at every deal he made involving sending prospects for major-league players, that Pierre deal was basically the only one that looked like a loss for the Cubs.  And it’s not like Nolasco has been fantastic.  

          And that Garza deal, looking at how those players performed vs how Garza performed…hard to argue Hendry got fleeced.  Now, to me, the only way the Cubs trade Garza is if they get two quality major-league ready starters back, plus some other lower-level prospects.  To be honest, I don’t see that happening, so I wouldn’t be too worried.  His agent told him that because I guarantee his name comes up a lot in rumors over the next week, not due to some imminent deal.

          Reply
          • Joe Costello

            14 years ago

            Thanks for the comforting words, haha.  I know Nolasco isn’t a Cy Young candidate, but he is an innings eater who would have been valuable to the Cubs.  I would say, Hendry made some good trades, that one just puzzles me why you give up so much for a guy and only keep him for a year.

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            • jayrig5

              14 years ago

              I think he wanted him for longer, but I don’t think they had the resources at the time.  This was before the Tribune spending spree  of 2007.

              Reply
        • Cubs in STL

          14 years ago

          Besides Archer, they traded depth for Garza. If they can get back 1 top 50 sp prospect, a major league ready 1b, and another sp prospect who is a wildcard with big upside (aka archer), it’s a win all around. I still don’t really have an issue w the Garza trade, but Atcher makes me cringe. If he doesn’t pan out, it’s a pretty obvious win IMO.

          Reply
  5. kevb197731

    14 years ago

    Why the heck would they trade him. I ralize that he would bring alot back, but he himself is very young and could have his best years ahead. That is BS if they trade him. Looks like they may have nothing more than a 4A team this year. I have heard that the A’s are interested in Soriano, and they would have to eat most of the contract, but do and add a couple players and acquire Gio Gonzalez. Trade Dempster and Zambrano to get minor leaguers, but Garza HECK NO!!!!

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    • imachainsaw

      14 years ago

      I don’t think you understand the concept of ‘trade value’ Soriano and Zambrano have none. and Dempster’s is minimal. The best you can expect from any of those are minor league roster fillers or fringe prospects at best.

      Reply
  6. Jason Zenk

    14 years ago

    Cubs NEED pitching, Garza isnt going anywhere. This is all a smoke screen…  

    Reply
    • Joe Costello

      14 years ago

      It’s not Epstein’s MO to trade guys like this, so I hope to God you are right.  I’m just not happy about hearing this all.  Make a splash. 

      Reply
  7. hombre1

    14 years ago

    Epstein is going to blow that team up. He will completely change the culture. I wish him,the fans and the Cubs well

    Reply
    • Joe Costello

      14 years ago

      Doubt it.

      Reply
  8. Eric Foster

    14 years ago

    Between a strong draft this year, and selling high on an established player like Garza, the Cubs could compete by 2014. Unless, Theo plans on spending big on Fielder and trading away McNutt, Jackson or Szczur to win now…And lets face it- It’s small picture decisions like that, that got the Cubs where they are today. If the Cubs can get similar return in what they paid, you’ve got to pull the trigger. It’s time to build from within.

    Reply
  9. Coollet

    14 years ago

    Jays, AA believes in trading instead of signing

    Reply
    • slider32

      14 years ago

      Teams are just toying with AA, the Jays aren’t really in on many trades. AA is afraid to pull the trigger on a big time player, he’s looking for another Bautista. There might not be another one out there.

      Reply
      • Coollet

        14 years ago

        He said it himself that he’ll likely attain his missing pieces through trades rather than free agency. Also, they’ve been linked to many trades, more than most. A Garza trade makes sense, they know he’s good (he is a Jays killer) and has a good contract where the Jays can offer the cubs prospects which they have plenty of. Now that i took your serious, you’re likely just trolling because like angry3, i have never seen you offer any baseball wisedom or knowledge. Just Jays bashing.

        edit: actually, you dont even bash the Jays, you just bash whatever Jays’ fans have to say. Did you lose a girlfriend to a Canadian or something? Why the hate? I agree that some fans are maybe too blinded by their love for their team, but what team doesnt have their share of passionate fans?

        Reply
  10. Eric Foster

    14 years ago

    I think he’s more or a less a product of a high upside guy dealt by smart organizations, consistently replenishing their young talent.

    Reply
    • Cubs in STL

      14 years ago

      Agreed.

      Reply
  11. StanleyHudson

    14 years ago

    Could see the Cubs knowledge of the Sox system a plus just like it was during the Padres trade for Gonzo. If I were Hoyer/Epstein, I’d ask for Middlebrooks, Ranudo, Alex Wilson, and B level prospect.

    Reply
  12. slider32

    14 years ago

    Garza is one of the best trade deals out there, The Sox, Reds, Marlins, Yanks,Jays, and Nats would seem to be likely candidates.

    Reply
  13. scooterb

    14 years ago

    Trade Garza to the Yankees, Trade Soriano to Oakland, Send Zambrano to Boston. Receive key players Montero (NY) and Gio Gonzalez.  I still think a good possibility in moving Soriano and or Zambrano are 3-team trades.

    Reply
    • Eric Foster

      14 years ago

      The Cubs could eat nearly ALL of that contract, and the A’s still wouldn’t want an aging Soriano, and his muted power numbers in the Coliseum. Not to mention, give up Gio. Beane would demand Brett Jackson and Junior Lake along with a Ben Wells type in return. As for the Red Sox taking Zambrano- Not likely. I think Carlos ends up in a small market, where he feels like a big fish in a small pond. We get absolutely no return for either Z or Soriano. It’s Theo’s attempt at a clean slate, and opening up positions for a youth movement.

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      • Guest 5895

        14 years ago

        Zambrano wont end up in a small market, highly doubt he would accept the trade.

        Reply
        • Eric Foster

          14 years ago

          I respectfully disagree.
          The guy is a basketcase, in the delusional mindset that he’s still an ace. 
          He could impact a staff like Baltimore, Miami, Washington or Kansas City. 

          In addition, he realizes that he’s already run himself out of town. He’ll be on such a short leash, and that will weigh on his shoulders even more. Z has never responded well to pressure. If he starts the year with the Cubs, I’ll be surprised. If he gets beyond May, I’ll be astounded.

          Reply

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