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AL East Notes: Yankees, Red Sox, Stroman, Gausman

By Mike Axisa | June 26, 2012 at 3:43pm CDT

Derek Jeter turns 38 years old today, and the Yankees shortstop is hitting .304/.353/.412 with seven homers and six steals this season, his 18th in the big leagues. The game's active career hits leader with 3,181, he could move into the all-time top-ten with a strong second half. Here's the latest from the only division Jeter has known, the AL East…

  • “I’d rather not do anything, if possible,” said Yankees GM Brian Cashman to Anthony McCarron of The New York Daily News, referring to the upcoming trade deadline. “I’d rather keep our prospects, keep our payroll down. That’s what I’d always like to do. But at the same time, I want to get better.”
  • Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com says (on Twitter) that the Yankees expect Brett Gardner back from his elbow injury in late-July, but will pursue a speedy center field type if he takes longer than expected.
  • Red Sox GM Ben Cherington told Casey Stern and Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio that starting pitching remains his team's top target between now and the trade deadline.
  • With Kevin Youkilis traded, the Red Sox are likely to remain quiet for the next few weeks according to Sean McAdam and Maureen Mullen of CSNNE.com. If Boston decides to sell at the deadline, Kelly Shoppach, Ryan Sweeney, Scott Atchison, and Matt Albers could be trade candidates.
  • The Blue Jays are offering 22nd overall pick Marcus Stroman the $1.8MM slot bonus, reports Richard Griffin of The Toronto Star (Twitter links). He notes that even though that pick is compensation for failing to sign last year's first rounder, the Jays will get another compensation pick next year if they fail to sign Stroman thanks to the new collective bargaining agreement.
  • Agreements between the Orioles and first rounder Kevin Gausman and second rounder Branden Kline are not imminent according to MLB.com's Britt Ghiroli, but the two sides are negotiating. “Nothing unusual about the way it’s progressing,” said scouting director Gary Rajisch.
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  1. Tim McCall

    13 years ago

    Sox should sell Sweeney and Shoppach to give way to the youth.

    Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

      Neither of those guys would open up a spot for anything more than a bench player, and none of the young guys should be sitting on the bench in Boston instead of starting in Pawtucket.

      Reply
      • Dave Chickenman

        13 years ago

         all of the kids from pawtucket are better than ryan sweeney or darnell mcdonald. how can you justify sending down kalish or nava after the way they have performed? you have ross to play right and when ellsbury comes back sweeney seems to be the odd man out. there has to be a team looking for a sweeney or mcdonald type of player. shoppach could easily go,too lavarnway is a much better hitter.another guy who could hit the bricks would be punto. there are at least 3 guys in pawtucket as good or better than him. and they have the new guy they got in the youk trade.

        Reply
        • mainesox

          13 years ago

          All of those guys you mentioned are bench players, so unless you are suggesting that it would be better to have their prospects sitting on the bench in Boston than playing every day in Pawtucket my point still stands.

          Reply
    • Dave Chickenman

      13 years ago

       i agree!  the sox will soon have to make decisions when bailey and bard come back! albers could be traded maybe trade shoppach,sweeney albers,punto and a prospect or 2 in one or several packages for a starter or a good lefty reliever and leave morales as a starter. theyd have a killer bullpen if they had, aceves,padilla, morales,miller,bard ,melancon,and bailey all healthy. four guys who can close,four guys who can start or go long innings?

      Reply
  2. James Coughlin

    13 years ago

    Very insightful, Cashman.

    Reply
    • withpower

      13 years ago

      For the most part, though, Cashman is full of it.  He doesn’t keep our prospects, not the ones that are actually any good.

      Reply
      • ARod's Ring

        13 years ago

        As a Yankees fan. Like who? we’re a lock to win 95 games every year and you’re complaining about prospects?

        Reply
        • withpower

          13 years ago

           Like Montero.  To a lesser extent Kennedy and Jackson, but that’s only because Curtis Granderson has played well for us.

          Reply
          • ARod's Ring

            13 years ago

            Kennedy and Jackson? are you kidding me? Kennedy would be a #4 in the AL East. Jackson was replace by Granderson and the rest is history. 

            Montero was traded for another young guy with a ton of upside. so it was prospect for prospect. Montero had no room on this team anyway.

            Reply
            • ChefR

              13 years ago

              You’re right, the catching situation in NY is wonderful.

              Reply
              • mainesox

                13 years ago

                Montero isn’t a catcher

                Reply
          • slider32

            13 years ago

            Hello, the Yanks make the playoffs every year, name me one team that has made the playoffs 10 years in a row.

            Reply
            • Encarnacion's Parrot

              13 years ago

              Detroit Red Wings, 21 years in a row.

              Reply
              • Lunchbox45

                13 years ago

                coming to an end 2013

                Reply
                • PJaysW

                  13 years ago

                  25 million in cap space. i think they’ll do just fine this offseason. 

                  Reply
                  • Lunchbox45

                    13 years ago

                    there is no replacing nick lidstrom 

                    Reply
            • withpower

              13 years ago

               The Portland Trailblazers made the playoffs for something like 15-20 straight seasons.  The Atlanta Braves won their division what was it?  Like 14 straight years?

              The St. Louis Blues made the playoffs for I think more than 20 straight years.

              Reply
              • lawries_helmet

                13 years ago

                 atlanta did not win 14 straight YEARS.  (1994!…..)
                sigh

                Reply
            • Steelslayer

              13 years ago

              Enjoy it man…I think times will be changing after this year

              Reply
        • withpower

          13 years ago

           We’ll see how much of a lock we continue to be with the stricter salary cap.

          Reply
          • daboohk

            13 years ago

            Impossible to win when only spending a hair under 200 million per year.  DAMMIT!

            Reply
            • withpower

              13 years ago

               Man, the Cashman brigade is out in full force today.

              You’d think it was him, and not Gene Michael, who was the architect of the late 90s teams.

              Reply
        • Dave Chickenman

          13 years ago

          without pettite or sabathia? i think not!

          Reply
  3. garylanglais

    13 years ago

    James Ramsey getting $1.6m (slot value of $1.775) didn’t help the Blue Jays in their negotiations with Stroman. Actually two-fold, first a senior got $1.6m for going the pick after Stroman and it shows bona fide 1st round Seniors can still get fair compensation.

    Not saying he doesn’t sign but I’m not quickly backing down to Blue Jays demands if I’m Stroman either

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    • lawries_helmet

      13 years ago

       so he knows he can wait until next year, and get about same offer, delaying is countdown to arbitration. 
      jays are offering fair compensation- the only thing he can hope is someone would be willing to draft a 5`9″ pitcher in top 10 next year…didnt happen this year,,,,

      Reply
      • garylanglais

        13 years ago

        So you’re expecting him to be put on the 25 man roster by start of next season? Certainly possible but by no means definite.

        I didn’t say anything about the current offer being unfair I simply said the combo of Ramsey’s high number as a Senior coupled with it being the pick after Stroman does not mean he has to go running to the Blue Jays to accept their offer.

        If he wants to wait it out and see if the Blue Jays budge that seems like a fair move on his part at this time

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        • hurley55

          13 years ago

          How are the Jays supposed to budge? This isn’t the old CBA where theres extra cash that Toronto could just allocate to Stroman.  There are no more games with the budget constraints.  Unless they sign DeJong for underslot (which is unlikely considering he will be overslot) than Stroman won’t get much more than ~1.9 mill.

          Reply
          • garylanglais

            13 years ago

            Hadn’t looked at Blue Jays situation until now and they have $130k to work with with Stroman and DeJong left. Even if Stroman went at slot only leaves Blue Jays with shade under $750k to pay DeJong (slot being $620,300).

            How much DeJong goes for will probably answer the question on Stroman

            Reply
            • baseballz

              13 years ago

              You bring up very good points and I think solid emphasis on the fact that Stroman can walk and the Jays should be more then happy to let that happen. Since we wont have any potentially extra picks next year this could give us the wiggle room the new cba seems to demand for clubs to be able to sign high caliber talent. 1st round talent will really start to drop to the second and third rounds since the supplemental rounds are being reduced.

              A 5,9 senior who should be a knock out closer wont get what he thinks he deserves after another year of his max effort delivery for a guy that size over a long season. I hope he doesn’t get hurt but major league teams must know this guy only has so many bullets left in that little stubby arm of his, especially since his main strike out pitch is a slider and that takes a much harder toll on an arm then any of the other breakers.

              Reply
        • lawries_helmet

          13 years ago

           actually i would expect him on 25 man this year

          Reply
          • garylanglais

            13 years ago

            Him making the 25 man roster this year will not have any effect on his Arbitration schedule assuming he doesnt go back down to minors over next 3 years. The added time from this year will not have impact

            Reply
            • lawries_helmet

              13 years ago

               he would reach arbitration a year earlier, than if he gets added by some other team next July….

              Reply
            • lawries_helmet

              13 years ago

               he also gets one more year of minimal wage (about $500K), plus the present value of yr 2, yr3 excess one year earlier….

              Reply
  4. Vmmercan

    13 years ago

    How come Wise gets no recognition? All the dude does is play solid D and seem to make an offensive contribution every time he plays (albeit very small sample size). He’s an experienced veteran and is basically a poor man’s Gardner already on the team.

    Reply
    • Devern Hansack

      13 years ago

      His 62 wRC+ may be the reason, methinks.

      Reply
      • Vmmercan

        13 years ago

        I get he’s not a long-term solution. But they’re not going to do anything in regards to Gardner until prob the week before the deadline since they have to make sure he’s pushed back again, which means you’re talking about what, a month?

        I’d take Wise starting for a month over trading anything of any value for an outside source.

        Reply
        • withpower

          13 years ago

           They ought to be looking for a real LF who can actually hit to replace both Wise and Gardner.

          Reply
        • slider32

          13 years ago

          The Yanks always stock pile their minors with good back ups, Wise is not a starter but he is better than most teams back ups.

          Reply
    • withpower

      13 years ago

       Dwayne Wise is terrible.  It’s a joke he’s even on the team.

      Reply
      • MB923

        13 years ago

        Pretty much agree (and as I type that, he just made a pretty good play)

        Edit – Bad call

        Reply
    • NYPOTENCE

      13 years ago

      Dewayne Wise nothing more than a late-inning defensive replacement.

      Reply
      • MB923

        13 years ago

        Hope you just saw his web gem lol

        Edit – It was a bad call actually

        Reply
        • Lunchbox45

          13 years ago

          it was a terrible call. the fan in the red had the ball!! hahaha

          Reply
          • MB923

            13 years ago

            Why don’t you check out what team’s ball cap he has on. Hint, it’s not a Yankees or Indians cap.

            Reply
          • Slopeboy

            13 years ago

            After seeing the replay, it struck as an illustration in the difference between a Yankees fan and a Cubs fan. This a not to pile on Bartman, but I couldn’t get the thought out of my head, that Yank fans actually dig the idea of a guy diving into the stands for a ball.Even if its in a game that’s just about decided.

            Reply
          • lawries_helmet

            13 years ago

             brilliant call….

            (for entertainment value)

            Reply
  5. garylanglais

    13 years ago

    “If Boston decides to sell at the deadline, Kelly Shoppach, Ryan Sweeney, Scott Atchison, and Matt Albers could be trade candidates.”

    Cody Ross should be on that list as well.  And if they truly decide to be sellers at the deadline I don’t understand how David Ortiz gets left out of these talks.  Yes, he’s a 10/5 guy and would need to accept a trade but he’s even said how “disrespected” he is so you can’t count it out. 

    If I’m the Rays I consider Ortiz the missing link.

    Reply
    • BoSoXaddict

      13 years ago

      Do you really think the Red Sox would EVER trade Ortiz within the division? Seriously?

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

        yup

        Reply
        • BoSoXaddict

          13 years ago

           Well, that’s very cute..but it will never, ever happen.

          Reply
          • Lunchbox45

            13 years ago

            if the red sox fall completely out of it, why wouldnt they?

            Ortiz is just a rental and then they could re sign him or lose him to free agency anyways. 

            Reply
  6. DMiles5149

    13 years ago

    Someone should tell the Red Sox they’re above .500 and not to give up all those amazing players listed above.

    Reply
    • ugotrpk3113

      13 years ago

      Hehe… Amazing players

      Reply
      • MB923

        13 years ago

        Hehe….Sarcasm

        Reply
  7. BoSoXaddict

    13 years ago

    The Red Sox blurb is a little misleading. In fact, and as the linked-to article correclty points out, all those players listed could very well be moved even if the Red Sox are still in contention at the deadline (except Atchison I would imagine). If the Red Sox fall out of contention and become REAL sellers at the deadline, then practically everyone becomes available save for Pedroia, Middlebrooks, and A.Gonz more or less..

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