The Red Sox have agreed to terms with first round draft pick Deven Marrero, tweets Jim Callis of Baseball America. The Arizona State shortstop will receive a $2.05MM bonus, significantly higher than the $1.75MM recommended by MLB.
The selection marks the third consecutive draft in which the Red Sox selected a college player with their first pick. Marrero, selected 24th overall, is noted for his slick fielding.
300k over, or almost. They are running short now on anything to sign Carlson Fulmer taken in round #15. Think all the predictions they had laid out at Soxprospects..etc.. had them in the penalty stage to offer Fulmer even 300k and that is the MAX before forfeiting 1st round pick next season if Marrero got 2m as a bonus AND Johnson signed for below slot 1m, vs 1.57m who, was taken with the #31 overall pick..
It completely depends on what Johnson signs for, if he signs for under slot they could still have $500-750k to offer Fulmer. Yuku went down and SoxProspects lost most of their old forum discussions, so I can’t go back and look to find what they came up with for estimates on guys. I also think I remember most people guessing Fulmer wasn’t going to sign anyway weren’t they?
Also, for what it’s worth, in SPs article announcing the Marrero signing they mention that they expect both Johnson and Maddox to sign for under slot, so they could have closer to a million to offer Fulmer.
ADD: I’m just guessing here, but I think the plan is probably to sign Johnson, and maybe Maddox, for under slot and offer whatever is left to Fulmer and Martin and see who accepts it first.
“I’m just guessing here, but I think the plan is probably to sign Johnson, and maybe Maddox, for under slot and offer whatever is left to Fulmer and Martin and see who accepts it first.”
I really hope a team I’m rooting for has a little more of a plan than that.
Well, it’s not like they went into it blind; they would have had to have a good idea that either guy would sign for close to that amount before they drafted them. What I meant was they don’t have enough money to sign both, so they’ll offer it to both of them and see which one jumps first.
Maybe not though, maybe they like Fulmer better and they offer it to him first and they’ll give it to Martin if he doesn’t sign (it wouldn’t surprise me if Fulmer wants close to $1M and they can only come up with ~$850k – maybe it’s close enough for him and maybe it’s not – but I’d be surprised if Martin wouldn’t sign for that).
Big, upside and projectable signs were Ty Buttery (4th round) 1.3m, Pat Light (1S) 1m, Jamie Callahan (1S) 600k, Shaq Thompson (18th rd) not announced, just more than 100k.
Fulmer and Martin are the other 2 high upside high school athletes it is projected to take major $$$ to keep out of college.
Ahh. Thought those latest figures from Soxprospects were with Johnson signing at the 1m figure still. The Marrero figure was 2m as recall.
Ditto on that Yuku crash.. That particular “page” you mention was one of the best ones that had been getting updated where draftees/chances/$$$ figures were being updated really often in that particular topic.
Still be nice to find a way to get either of Fulmer, even Martin if Fulmer is not workable. The draft hasn’t been nearly as bad as it could have been, considering the amount they have spent is the least in years, or will be when they are done spending on it.
Yeah, considering the relative weakness of this years draft – and the new CBA – I think they did really well even if they don’t sign Fulmer or Martin.
As kind of a side note, have you listened to Alex Speier’s podcast from friday? He had Keith Law on to talk about the Sox’s draft. I’m only about half way through it right now, but Law has some really good insights on the guys they drafted.
No, haven’t listened to it, but am certainly going to now that you mention it later on and thanks for the heads up on it.
Listening to it now.. Caught a ton of it and this is one of the most enlightening podcasts have caught in quite some time.. Dunno how missed this jewel on WeeI earlier, but THANKS a ton for bringing it up.. This is CAN’T MISS for anyone wanting draft info on the Sox people regarding the 2012 crop.
No problem.
The guys at SoxProspects did a draft podcast a week or so ago too; I don’t know it you heard that one. It was pretty interesting; they talked a bit about the bigger picks they had, but they spent at least as much time talking about the Sox’ draft philosophy as they did actually talking about the guys drafted.
Listened to the one on the prospects, but not that one.. Thanks again 🙂
Loved the pick for Marrero has a chance to hit enough to be an average/slightly above average starting SS, if you can get that in late first it is very valuable, thought he would go in the teens.
I could be wrong, but I thought the budget restrictions counted for only the first 10 rounds, so they could pay anything they wanted without fear of being penalized for their 15th rounder?
any signing bonuses over 100K after the 10th round count toward the draft cap, so a significantly overslot deal for a 15th rounder would count towards the cap.
those signed 100K and under do not count toward the cap.
Ok, thanks. You can blame the overpay on Boras whom I believe is Marrero’s agent. A couple days ago I read an article that said that all of the first rounders that had signed so far had done so at or below slot value. Now that Boras’ clients are starting to sign, it’s a different story. >:( http://mlb.mlb.com//news/article.jsp?ymd=20120613&content_id=33251910&vkey=news_tex&c_id=tex#comment_container
Marrero did pretty good here for a sure fire top 5 pick that struggled last year and dropped to the mid 20’s. This is how the Red Sox used to do things, maybe Cherington didn’t read the fine print in the new CBA.
How did Cherington get talked into that?
Marrero saying “Pay me 2 million or I walk,” would probably do the trick.
I don’t get why the six are going for shortstops when 3 of the top 20 prospects are shortstops already
For one, the percent of prospects who actually make it to the big leagues is extremely small, so there’s a good chance that only one of those guys (or none even) pans out. Two, if more than one of them becomes a legitimate big league player they can always trade one, and legitimate big league short stops are one of the more valuable commodities in the game. Three, a lot of short stops get moved to other positions (2B, 3B, CF), so they could move one of them if two or more pan out and they have needs at certain other positions.
Lol when I first saw this, I thought it said “Red Sox to sign Devin Mesoraco”