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LazerTown
Owings sure, but I don’t think Didi brings back any quality pitching. Maybe a reliever, teams don’t usually pay through the nose for an all glove no hit type player, even if he is young.
Russelmysanchez
Noris and Nolin for Owings? …. Who blinks first, Jays or D’Backs?
vtadave
Surely you’re not suggesting Daniel Norris, right?
Jimmy Willy
Owings has shown the ability to hit at the major league level. That coupled with his position and youth and he’s got more value than Norris.
Russelmysanchez
I don’t want to give up Norris either… (sry for spelling) but the jays need a young cheap second baseman/ someone that can fill in for Reyes at short when injured… Seems to be a good swap with both teams dealing from areas of strength.
paqza
Trading a lefty with #1 or #2 upside for a backup 2B/SS with a bad shoulder isn’t wise.
Jaysfan1994 2
Owings, while immensely talented defensively, hasn’t shown anything to say he’d be a top of the order bat yet. Trading away someone who could be a #1/#2 that provides 200SO+ a year isn’t something smart to do.
Like I alluded to, starting pitchers that Norris could develop into don’t hit Free Agency in the game anymore. If they do they’re usually in their early-mid 30’s looking for an 8 year deal that will no doubt handicap most organizations in the long run.
Jaysfan1994 2
Norris is probably a top 50 prospect in all of baseball right now, the man had a ridiculous strikeout rate in the minors and is only 21. Pitching prospects like him need to have the dice rolled on them as he’s got ace potential and Toronto isn’t a great destination for pitchers.
Russelmysanchez
Who would be fair then in your opinion? Have to give up something to get something, and we need a middle infielder. Trading from our immense depth of young pitching for a guy who we can slot into our starting 9 right now seems pretty appealing to me.
paqza
I wouldn’t call it immense depth. You’ve got Stroman, Buehrle, and Dickey among “proven” starters. Hutchison and Norris look promising but neither has shown much in the Majors yet. Sánchez hasn’t started in the big leagues. There are a too many question marks to call it “immense depth”. Let the team sign a guy like Asdrubal if they want a 2B without giving up young talent.
Russelmysanchez
I’m talking about our young starting pitching aka: Hutch, stroman, norris, nolin, graveman, Hoffman, Osuna etc etc…. Because it would be a young player for a young player. I didn’t realize that he had shoulder problems, and most opinions I have read do not label him as a backup.
Russelmysanchez
Ya all indications are that he will be ready for spring training… and he was still developing so I don’t think it’s fair to assume he won’t progress from what he did last year, and he still provided a large amount of value in war for so few games.
paqza
There’s talent but the Jays do not have “immense depth” yet.
pitnick
Do Cliff Pennington and Chad Billingsley have the two most British upper-crust names in the MLB?
Jimmy Willy
Sean Doolittle should figure in there.
disadvantage 2
Yes, but Josh Willingham deserves to be in the conversation.