April 12: Mizuhara surrendered to federal authorities this morning, per Alden González of ESPN. González adds that Mizuhara is scheduled to appear in court at 1:00 p.m. Pacific, or 3:00 p.m. Central, with the expected outcome of being let out on bond at some point.
April 11: U.S. attorney Martin Estrada announced today that Shohei Ohtani’s former interpreter Ippei Mizuhara has been charged with bank fraud to finance a “voracious appetite for illegal sports betting,” per Sam Blum of The Athletic. Mizuhara is alleged to have transferred more than $16MM from Ohtani’s account to an illegal sports book, per Alden González of ESPN. The full 37-page complaint against Mizuhara was relayed by Meghann Cuniff of The Washington Post.
Per Blum, Estrada says the account was set up by Mizuhara in 2018 and he began illegal gambling in 2021. “The bets do not appear to have been made on the sport of baseball,” Estrada says. “At this point Mr. Ohtani is considered a victim in this case,” Estrada added, per Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic. “Mr. Mizuhara lied to the bank to access the account … lied to them about being Mr. Ohtani,” Estrada also said, per Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times. When Mizuhara won a bet, the winnings would go into his own account and not Ohtani’s, per Blum. Estrada says investigators have viewed text messages from Mizuhara where he admitted to stealing from Ohtani, as relayed by Ardaya.
Last month, ESPN reported that more than $4.5MM had been wired from an account in Ohtani’s name to a sports gambling ring in California, where betting on sports is illegal. Mizuhara initially told ESPN that he was the one who racked up the debt but that Ohtani wired the money to help him pay it off. He later retracted that story and said Ohtani knew nothing about the gambling or the wire transfers. Ohtani later spoke on the matter, accusing Mizuhara of stealing money from him and lying about it, saying that he didn’t find out any of the details until the reporting had come out.
Both Mizuhara and Ohtani have said that Ohtani did not place any bets. Mizuhara has said that he did not bet on baseball and there’s not yet been any reporting to contradict that. As relayed by Jayson Stark of The Athletic, Mizuhara is alleged to have made about 19,000 wagers from December of 2021 to January of 2024, winning $142.27MM but losing $182.94MM for a net loss of $40.7MM.
It was reported last night that Mizuhara was in negotiations with federal authorities about pleading guilty. As part of that reporting, it was relayed that prosecutors had evidence Mizuhara disabled notifications that Ohtani would have received from his bank about transactions. The details from today go even farther, alleging that Mizuhara called the bank and impersonated Ohtani to access funds, per Britt Ghiroli of The Athletic. He answered security questions related to Ohtani’s biographical information to wire funds to a bookmaker, saying it was for a car loan. Per Shaikin, Ohtani’s agent repeatedly asked about the account but Mizuhara told him it was “private” and that Ohtani didn’t want anyone else to monitor it.
Shaikin relays a text message exchange between Mizuhara and a bookmaker where he admits to the theft: “Technically I did steal from him. it’s all over for me.” The maximum penalty for these charges is 30 years, per Shaikin. Mizuhara will appear in federal court in the coming days, per Blum. Ohtani has cooperated fully in the investigation, per Shaikin, including providing access to digital devices.
MLB issued a statement on the matter, per Jesse Rogers of ESPN and others: “We are aware of the charges filed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office against Mr. Mizuhara for bank fraud after a thorough federal investigation. According to that investigation, Shohei Ohtani is considered a victim of fraud and there is no evidence that he authorized betting with an illegal bookmaker. Further, the investigation did not find any betting on baseball by Mr. Mizuhara. Given the information disclosed today, and other information we have already collected, we will wait until resolution of the criminal proceeding to determine whether further investigation is warranted.” MLB’s Department of Investigations (DOI) opened an investigation into the matter last month after the initial reports came out.
So someone with a compulsive gambling problem set up a fake bank account and spent 3 years funneling money from Ohtani somehow into this fake account before starting gambling?
Wait for it… those negative Dodger/Ohtani comments.
Got to wonder how the guy ends up setting up an account for Ohtani and then somehow has full access to it and he doesn’t even notice any of it being taken? I don’t make big cash like Ohtani but my wife and I share an account and I can see daily transactions on my phone notifications. Something doesn’t add up…
All I’m saying is, if 16 million dollars goes missing in my bank account, I’d notice it. Definitely need more information.
People with that much money have many, many accounts, not to mention stocks, investment accounts, etc. If money is missing from your one account you’d definitely notice, but when you have a ton of different accounts and money going in and out all the time and no one person responsible for making sure it’s 100% up and up, not to mention that the one guy you do trust is the one stealing from you… bad things can happen.
Having different accounts and investments would likely mean he was good with his money, making it even less likely that he wouldn’t notice 16 million go missing.
I wish I was so wealthy it took me years to notice I was short 16MM. Lol.
When you can hit 40 MLB home runs and post a 4.00 ERA, then we will care about how you manage you money relates to how Ohtani manages his.
Also when you make that much money you probably have a money guy or a company that handles a lot of the investing, taxes and a number of other financial items. If the company did not see a large discrepancy and report it I would be surprised, unless of course they were stealing too.
The feds have Mizuhara on the phone impersonating Ohtani, among other fraudulent means he used to skim Ohtani’s accounts over the course of years. Mizuhara has admitted all of it.
Do try to keep up.
Trolls are so hurt in their backsides by the Dodgers. The last thing they care about is accuracy….
Blue you are spitting into the wind with these crazies. You can explain the facts a thousand times and all you will get is, “but what about…”?
I know, but I guess we’re both doing some spitting, eh?
According to one of the other posters, there’s additional info stating that Ohtani gave all financial responsibility to Mizuhara and never bothered to double check anything himself. (Plus, as included in the article above, Mizuhara disabled notifications.)
Apparently, Ohtani really is that dumb and lazy when it comes to managing his money.
He trusted someone who he should not have trusted and he got screwed. I suppose that never happened to you. Because you know it only happens to dumb people.
He’s not dumb for trusting Mizuhara. He’s dumb for personally ignoring his money management to the point that he never even bothered to personally look at his bank statements.
I’m gonna make this short & simple. 3 weeks probation & the new spokesman for MLB “Special Promotions” on DraftKings. Next! Ahahaha!
@Landirac Unfortunately many people become victims of those they trust. As far as this situation, this is government criminal charges not the MLB. It seems they have evidence that collaborates the story that was reported.
As far as Ohtani, for all we now he could be naive. Or Mizuhara could ve possibly been providing false statements or taking other measures to cover up his theft. I can’t imagine anyone stealing that much $ and not making at least a lousy attempt at covering up their misdeed.
So Otani is so rich that he doesn’t miss $16 million from his bank account? I am calling BS on this one.
$16m post-tax, especially with ohtani’s income during that period…
That’s a LOT of money. And nobody raised a red flag? Thats just beyond strange.
GAS… Since you’re on the inside, would you care to share with the rest of us exactly what Ohtani’s income was during that period? I can easily find numbers for MLB contracts, what evades me is all the endorsement/ investment income he has raked in for years now…
@empirejim
He doesn’t have to know. As you said, he has a lot of sources of money going in and out. He would have to be completely stupid to not have a financial person/company monitoring that movement. What is your explanation for why the discrepancy was missed?
because he completely relied on Mizuhara. Its really not that hard to understand. Ohtani had 100% of his focus on baseball and had 100% of trust in Mizuhara.
If you went to a different country where every single thing (including bank stuff) is in a language you don’t understand, you make so much money that you can’t even wrap your head around it, AND you are far and away the best at your job (which isn’t accounting), this situation would be entirely possible.. You have to understand that Ohtani relied on Mizuhara for so many things.
This is all BS and I will tell you why. First of all, the interpreter claims that he went into banks posing as Ohtani to open the bank accounts. Everyone knows that Ohtani takes an interpreter with him everywhere. That would mean that the original interpreter spoke nothing but Japanese in the bank and he had someone else to be his interpreter. The phony interpreter would’ve had to do all of the talking. Who is that person and why haven’t we heard about him?
Let us know when you find Bigfoot, won’t you?
Well, it looks like there was enough of a red flag that someone did notice.
I’m curious about how many major financial fraud investigations all these geniuses who are sure Ohtani was in on it have participated in.
“Ohtani is so rich he doesn’t miss $16 million”….Ohtani is likely EXTREMELY rich and will most likely retire a billionaire. How rich are you when you can easily DEFER 95% of your current income 30 years into the future without issue? I don’t find it impossible to believe that Ohtani is extremely naive and not focused on his current finances. After all, just by waiting a couple of years, he could have left Japan as a free agent, available to negotiate with any team. He sacrifice HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars just to come here when he did.
He was made an offer he couldn’t refuse
Negative Dodger/Ohtani comment
Dumb comment. Clearly a cover up going on.
So clear that there is zero evidence? Clear as mud.
It was a joke in response to Hudlers son.
lol, clearly. in your own head, maybe.
I wonder if people will admit they were wrong about this story or just double down on the cover-up angle?
Ohtani has to be the most isolated superstar in history. Not an attorney, accountant, agent, friend, family nor anyone else within his personal and/or professional spheres had any idea this one person was stealing $16 mill over a few years. Or, if they did, thought it better to not tell him about it.
I can believe that Ohtani himself was not involved in betting but suggesting he had no knowledge of $16 mill disappearing is getting to be a stretch.
Google embezzlement and see if that clears this up.
It won’t for these folks. EVER!
To think that nobody within his sphere of influence had no idea where $16 mill went, even for someone as wealthy as Ohtani, is just silly
If you’re stupid enough to rely on a single person to manage every aspect of your finances, and that person just happens to be the one stealing from you, it’s not that easy for other people to figure it out.
Bernie Madoff conned many business men and their sphere of influence out of billions, People act like this kind of thing hasnt happened before, people making millions are not sitting there balancing their check book, as long as they dont get red flags as far as their own stuff not getting paid for or having access to money then they’re not usually aware. Should they have a bit more hands on at looking at their financial dealing? sure., but an athlete playing games most of the year, on the road a lot and etc isnt up to speed i am sure on this kind of thing.in most cases.
This whole thing smells like Pike Place Fish Market
Here before the morons call this a coverup even though the information is coming from the government….
Unless you’re part of the investigation or are privy to it, obviously it’s going to seem something is off or isn’t right. Don’t be an idiot. Ohtani is completely innocent until proven otherwise.
16M is a large amount to not notice.
People have never been victims of fraud and embezzlement is fake! It’s a conspiracy! Manfraud! Free bauer! Lmao you guys are so out of touch
So saying 16M is a large amount not to notice says all that wow. Not noticing 16M missing is pretty out of touch if you ask me. I didn’t accuse anyone of anything, I just said it’s a lot to not notice and you lost your mind. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
You act like the 16M was there one minute and gone the next. The reality is that there were MANY much smaller transactions over the course of several years. Considering Ohtani’s multiple income streams it’s not at all hard to imagine a trusted confidant being able to skim enough off the top to eventually amass a significant number.
But that is why he would have a money management firm. Most people that make a decent amount hire a firm to do a lot of their financial things (investments, taxes, etc…). I can buy Ohtani maybe didn’t notice. But his financial firm should have. Even if the transfers were under 1M.
The transfers were listed as “loan”. These “loans” were never paid back. These were supposedly not noticed by Ohtani or his financial team. That is a really bad financial firm. I think it raises more questions. Did his team claim the unpaid loans on taxes? Is the financial firm he hired ripping him off too? Did they report it and he just didn’t do anything?
@James why are you assuming Ohtani had a financial team overseeing everything? I have never seen that reported , or that he even has an accountant. Just perhaps his agent knows some of his Financials.
If the firm finds a discrepancy and wants to talk to Ohtani about who is the interpreter?
I am assuming that Ohtani doesn’t download TurboTax and start going to town. He has people do that. Heck, I don’t make a ton and I have someone that does that as well as investing. I doubt Ohtani is doing all of his investing. He has people for all of that.
I’m not accusing him of anything. People keep freaking out. I’m simply saying it’s strange that Ohtani and his team didn’t notice that much money missing.
Wait… so $16M isn’t a large amount of money not to notice missing from a bank account?
But it was noticed. That’s why you’re reading about it.
Hence, investigation!
It was only noticed because the feds busted the gambling ring and found Ohtani’s name on some of the transfers. From everything that has been said it wasn’t noticed by Ohtani or his team before that. My question is why was it not noticed before the ring was busted?
No, they noticed it because they were investigating the bookie. According to the 2nd account from Ohtani he wasn’t aware Mizuhara had taken the $$
After how many years? Even a competent tax preparer would have asked questions.
What questions?
The most head-scratching part of this is that Bankrupt California, of all states, has yet to legalize sports gambling.
Make it federally allowed (as it should be) and this is…. grand theft? who cares
@16, California isn’t bankrupt, it just is about to run a 73b deficit. Even so, legalized gambling I don’t think is the solution. if you’re not being fiscally responsible, adding more money isn’t going to do anything. legalize it when you are not so far in the red so that money can actually be used for programs and whatever is agreed upon, not to pay the bills for previous budget shortfalls. I’m generalizing the introduction of legalized gambling as a strategy, I’m not informed enough on what is going on with the Cali budget to give an educated opinion.
Vegas and Reno would lose too much foot traffic if they did that. I’m willing to bet Nevada had money on ads that gambling was bad when it was up for a vote this past year.
They should look into if bets were placed on where he would end up in free agency, considering the whole Toronto “flight” rumors, when everyone knew he was heading to the Dodgers prior to the 2023 season….
Why would a bookie take that bet from someone in Ohtani’s inner-circle?
Unless he disclosed the information, why would he assume a Japanese man is Ohtani’s interpreter for placing a bet?
If a bookie is extending you a substantial amount of money on credit, they know exactly who you are.
Quite possible ippei was making bets elsewhere using inside information to supplement his losses with this bookie.
There’s still 24 mil in losses unaccounted for. How did he pay that money?
It appears Mr. Mizuhara is a master of disguise. If he can pass for Ohanti, does he have any limits?
Banking can be done over the phone and even on line. No Hollywood makeup required.
Since when?
Since the internet, bro….
Honestly, I have no idea what to believe anymore. I originally believed that Ohtani covered Ippei’s gambling debt, but changed the story because that would still land Ohtani in hot water. But Ippei has also lied about his education, so who knows what else he’s lied about? However the one thing I do believe is that Ohtani never bet on sports. Japaneese baseball players are trained to be super disciplined, and Ohtani has come off as an extremely disciplined person and player. Of course, we don’t know entierly what he’s like off the field. I just find it hard to believe he’s a gambler.
@1225, I agree, my initial thoughts were the same when the story broke and then the change of what happened. My biggest question of all this is how someone could run up that kind of debt and be in one piece. he must have been known and having this outstanding debt could certainly compromise Ippei for information
You pay to play in those rings and name dropping one of the biggest names in baseball is not a bad way to charm em
“Japanese baseball players are trained to be super disciplined…”
Stereotype much?
do you dispute that that is generally true?
I mean they are. Watch Baseall Doesn’t Exist’s video on the practices they use in Japan baseball to train players. It’s insane, even down to the little league level. It’s so bad in some cases that human rights groups had to step up and say something about it.
Stereotype much?
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Are you saying all cultures are identical?
Not trying to pick sides, but….
If he was losing money gambling and needed more, what stopped him from stealing more from Ohtani? That just doesn’t add up to me.
They did notice, eventually. That’s why he’s being charged…
$16M isn’t enough for someone who never cleared more than $500K in yearly salary? He would’ve probably continued to gamble if the bookie wasn’t caught by the feds and they didn’t see the name “Ohtani”.
People actually believe neither Ohtani or his advisers knew about this? LOL. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
Conspiracy theories be darned including any of my own.
Has anyone checked on Dekopin?
He’s just the decoy
This is going to be a movie in 25 years
Not the same but “Molly’s Game” book or movie may interest you. Some baseball players were involved.
0 percent chance Ohtani did not notice 16 million dollars missing. No way in hell.
“Mr. Mizuhara lied to the bank to access the account … lied to them about being Mr. Ohtani”
This is a worse cover up story than “deflator means losing weight” argument the Patriots pushed out years ago
Do you think you’d check your bank account often if the number was guaranteed to be in the 9 figures every single time? I bet you wouldn’t. especially if, say idk, you were a pro athlete who played 2 sides of the ball and had people who’s jobs it is to handle your stuff.
They didn’t do a good job if they didn’t notice 16 million dollars missing.
So how come no one notified Ohtani 16 million, nearly 4x the reported 4.5 million, was missing?
Again. 0 percent chance he was unaware that much was missing. Whether he noticed it. Whether he was alerted by accountants, bank employees, whoever at some point someone noticed such a large discrepancy and made him aware.
Then why on earth did the “people who handle your stuff” not realize 16+ MILLION DOLLARS WAS MISSING? Is everyone Ohtani hires incompetent or a thief? Most unlucky guy in the world.
Everyone Ohtani hired went through Ippei as the middle man in communicate with Ohtani. Ippei clearly misled and lied to many, many people throughout this scheme.
Did Ohtani have an aversion of hiring more than one person on his staff that spoke Japanese?
You do realize you can get financial forms in Japanese. Any language actually.
Phree4u2 days ago
You do realize you can get financial forms in Japanese.
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I worked for quite some time for the Japanese. All the banking forms from Mitsubishi came to me in English. I think it akin to “press 1 if you prefer English and press 2 if you prefer Spanish”.
So you agree that the people whose job it was to handle his stuff would have noticed?
… must be nice not noticing $16 million gone missing.
Or…or he actually new it was gone.
Occam’s razor.
I think credit needs to be given to his new wife for going over his accounts and finding irregularities in the large withdrawals.
The article states that Mizuhara made changes to the bank account’s email and phone number, which would route notifications of transactions to himself. He also pretended to be Ohtani over the phone with the bank. Bank fraud and deception happens often. Gambling is also a real addiction.
IM is a grown man and made criminal decisions.
Put the torch and pitch fork down people!
@ LATrolleyDodger
That’s a lot of trust you put in your translator to be managing your bank account. Even if the guy doesn’t spend every living second checking his bank account, you’d think someone making multi-millions of dollars has accountants and financial institutions managing his account. This isn’t Joe or Jane in a middle America town working paycheque to paycheque.
Then why is bank fraud so prevalent then? If it is so easy to spot? Mizuhara was pretending to be Ohtani and if you are able to bypass authentication, then the going gets way easier.
I’d like to point out that this situation is a lot like Yolanda Salvidar and Selena Quintanilla. Yolanda started out as the president of Selena’s fan club in San Antonio, TX. Ended up building a close friendship with the singer that transcended their business relationship. That trust from the friendship led to Saldivar embezzling thousands of dollars from Selena’s companies. Sadly, that situation ended in Selena’s murder. The reason I bring this story up is because you ask how a “translator” could get to a point of money management. Building up trust with someone for over a decade and having a friendship clouds judgment. Money comes and goes so fast in todays world too.
Anyone who finds joy in this situation is SICK. Gambling is a sickness. This man and his family and friends are paying the price. There is no joy here. Ohtani will rebound from the financial loss with his huge contract and endorsements. Life will go on for Ohtani. For the interpreter and his family, sad, very sad.
Well it sucks for Ohtani too. I have close family members managing an old family business where I’m completely hands-off. I’d be devastated to learn that they were stealing money and lying to me. The money itself is really secondary. That breach of full trust is hard to recover from and I wouldn’t be the same to trust someone close again.
Wouldn’t this be noted when doing taxes annually? I feel like a financial advisor or accountant would see this. Unless, was Mizuhara both of those?
This is the part that seems…. Odd. There are so many things that would have to go so perfectly for him to be able to siphon that money, it’s almost impossible.
So this guy was his interpreter and also his accountant? I can’t believe that Ohtani didn’t have an accountant or accountant firm handling his finances. That is hard to believe with the amount of money that is involved here. Also/ does he know his car warranty has expired?
“Hello I’m Ohtani I’d like to withdraw a mill to ..not bet with. Yes it’s me Ohtani,”
MASH episode where lotsa Koreans named Kim are getting free medical.
Hawkeye: your name please
Korean: Kim
Hawkeye: any proof?
Korean: points at chest, THIS IS ME!
Imagine being so arrogant that you think you know more about this situation than the people investigating it
:facepalm:
I doubt that Ippei is taking the fall for 30 years. That’s 26½ years with good behavior of some hard time in a high security federal correctional institution. He will shave some of that time by helping the government make a slam dunk case against Bowyer but he is looking at a slam dunk conviction for himself too. If Ippei’s lawyer is any good, he will convince Mizuhara to enter a strict rehab program to look more repentant when he goes to trial.
So many proving they know so little about so much.
Interpreters. The new fall guys for any foreign player betting on around or influencing the integrity of baseball.
so how do you not notice this much money leaving your account..? either he is as dumb as a door knob or he was involved soemhow
When do you think ohtani would have time to be smart? Genuinely. He’s a pro ballplayer who essentially has the work load of two of them, and he’s been a baseball robot for his whole life. Do you honestly think even 50% of pro athletes are intelligent?
You might be right –I saw Jo Adell steal second yesterday
DD
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You’d have to be dumb as a rock to assume that your experience as an average person allows your to relate to multimillionaires
16 Million Bucks? Great Googly Moogly
How many wire transfers was it before Ohtani and his accountant woke up?
As Popeye Doyle said many moons ago in The French Connection
I don’t buy that, Irv!!!!
I wonder if any message from the financial advisor would have been translated by Ippei..
The answer to this is yes. Ippei would’ve been in the middle of any of these interactions, and could have easily lied to both sides (and certainly did).
It’s fortunate for him that we don’t handle these situations in the same manner as Vietnam. Look at what’s about to happen to Truong My Lan for a similar violation.
It’s nothing alike. She owned a major national bank using shell companies and used it as a personal piggy bank while giving corrupt politicians handouts. The gov’t is using to taxpayer funds to pay out normal account holder victims who need the money.
And that’s different from our banks how?
So you’re advocating for him to receive capital punishment if he is indeed found guilty of his alleged crimes?
When reached for comment, Ohtani said … something in Japanese.
Joke Credit to Michael Che, but that line kills me.
Darragh is updating us in real-time while reading the offical 37-page gov’t complaint. Thanks man!
And with this news, general managers across the league locked themselves in their offices, curled up in the fetal position and sucked their thumbs, knowing full well an Ohtani suspension was their only hope of winning a World Championship in the near future.
Another global pandemic coming that we don’t know about?
No worries. Just ask the Fed to print some more money for Ohtani so he is made whole again.
My bank puts a freeze on my credit card if someone looks at my card wrong. I believe there is more to this story that will never be told. Mizuhara would have been interviewed under Miranda or a proffer letter. Once his statement is on record, he can’t change it because he can then face additional charges for lying to a federal agent (T18, USC, 1001), or have any plea agreement voided if he was found to be untruthful during a proffer.
Total witch-hunt.
I’m starting a go fund me for Mizuhara.
Free Ippei.
Go fund me?
For what?
Shohei paying him millions to take the fall
Interpreter gonna spend a year in jail
Then spend the rest of his life in tokyo being hand fed sushi rolls by geisha’s
Ohtani deserves an apology from everyone here slandering his name
I’ll make sure to forward the message to his new interpreter
Libeling.
Amazing the restraint Mizuhara showed in not betting on baseball. This compulsive addict who stole millions from his “friend” was still able to not cross that line of betting on the sport he was closest too.
If you read the article in the Athletic, it has a lot more details that make it seem more plausible. In that article, it says Mizuhara set up the account in 2021. He told the accountants that Ohtani wanted complete privacy on the account. His baseball paychecks were auto deposited into the account. Mizuhara impersonated Ohtani over the phone to make transactions. Funds were sent from the account to the bookie, but winnings were funneled to Mizuhara’s personal account. FBI found zero texts between Mizuhara and Ohtani about gambling. Zero.
Ohtani’s total gross baseball salary (including a signing bonus of 2,315,000) between 2017-2022 was 12,710,000. Add in his 2023 salary that’s a gross salary/earnings of 42,7100,000. So let’s say he nets at most half, that’s 21m, in which over 16m is stolen? So did he wait until the end of the 2023 season to make the biggest heist? Or was also siphoning his endorsement earnings?
None of the statements so far make any sense.
That bc the relevant info is slowly being dripped out. Just bc pro athletes are great at their jobs doesn’t make them financially savvy. There was a top, young basketball player who opened over 50 bank accounts to deposit his signing bonus bc the FDIC only insures up to $250k per account. The team owner or some exec then told him that he didn’t need to do that to protect his money.
You’re missing the endorsement money. The estimates have been $40-50M+ in recent years.
Even if you go low end $10-20M/yr for 2017-2020, you’re still looking at potential for $250M in endorsements since 2017. ($125M after tax following your same 50% number)
In responding @BlueBeeter, I just was trying to point out that his baseball checks alone probably weren’t enough to cover the 16M+ in thefts.
So yes, Mizuhara had to have had access to his endorsement earnings as well.
There is no way on earth that anybody steals $16 million from Shohei Ohtani, even his best friend or interpreter. You cannot wire transfer that amount of money without the persons permission. And there was a report that Ohtani was the one who transferred the money, then they took the report back. They trying save to Ohtani. This is BS
The bookie who ran the illegal operation was arrested by FBI. The $ came from shoehi bank acct. the friend is taking the fall. We are in the f’in twilight zone
Try reading the post that references the criminal complaint? Ippei impersonated Ohtani to the bank.
Hahahha
Keep living in lala land
They came up with everything so the friend takes the fall
“Hi im shohei ohtani. Im japanese. We all look the same. I promise. Give me $16 million”
“Of course no problem mr ohtani. Heres 16 million dollars no questions asked!!!”
I’m asked for 19 forms of ID and a blood sample when trying to wire a hundred bucks, we’re talkin 16 million!!!
You clearly did not read the criminal complaint. I suspect you’re not someone that minds embarrassing themselves on anonymous internet forums, but just in case you are: assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rxtbqz…
So you and the people feeding the narrative want us to believe……
Mizuhara had all necessary documents – ss #, birth certificate, identification card issued by the state – to pretend to be Ohtani and open a bank account in his name
“The x5848 Account was held in the name of Victim
A and was opened in or about March of 2018.”
You also want us to believe that Mizuhara also forged documents pretending to be Ohtani in order to get funds directly sent to this account from mlb itself labeled payroll
“The x5848 Account was almost exclusively funded
by deposits identified as payroll, in the name of a Major League
Baseball (“MLB”) club located in Southern California, for which
Victim A played baseball during this time period”
And you want us to believe a compulsive gambler who lost millions of dollars on a 300,000 salary or whatever it was saved up enough money so he could transfer 15 million dollars in an 8 month time frame?
“Between February 2022 and October 2023, the x5848
Account wired at least $15,000,000 to the x1911 Account.”
Documents? You think Mizuhara walked into a bank and said, ” Hi, I’m Shohei”? ID theft isnt an in-person crime, it’s an information crime.
Until you’ve dealt with that amount of money, you don’t know how it works. I worked for a company and processed wires fairly often for business and personal items($500k up to $30M). It only required electronic approval from someone who was authorized to process payment.
@royal
Thanks for the educational lesson
I’ve actually wired nearly a mil
They have a special dept for such things
Million Q, and ID confirmations
Nobody is allowed to transfer that kind of $ on behalf of anyone else and no bank is stupid enough to allow a stranger to transfer $16 mil of someone elses $
Ya’ll believe anything you read
If the article said a dragon from the middle ages stole ohtani’s identity you’d defend it too
“Oh but thats what the article says. And ive worked with dragons before. They routinely steal $” gimme a f’in break. It aint my first day on earth. This is being swept under the rug. Ya’ll so ignorant its sad
And 1 last thing for you ignorant f’in brainless uneducated fools
How the f is anyone gonna “impersonate” the most famous baseball player in america & the world? He fooled people into thinking he’s shohei the way i can walk into a bank & convince someone i’m ryan gosling. Get the f outta here
Ohtani is a little b****
Paid off his friend to take the fall
Manfred is crapping his pants at the idea of the #1 face of mlb breaking the law & going to jail or being banned from the game
Nah man. The only ignorance is from the people like you who think it couldn’t have happened any other way, it only works how you’ve experienced it and you can’t possibly be wrong.
Utah you are a moron.
So much here
lost in translation!
Cough cough bullsh*t cough
To the people saying why would Ohtani miss 16 mill when he has so much money…..like he is the only one managing his accounts and i highly highly doubt his interpreter was anywhere on that list. He probably had a credit card for daily errands So i guess all of them were in on it and we’ll see more charges against others post haste. Also, i’m setting an account up in a filthy rich persons name tonight gonna set up myself a gambling ring who’s in? Hahahahaaaaaaaa
wow 16 million million
Clearly the league and his fanboys are just going to sweep this under the rug.
Hopefully MLB knows what it’s doing putting all their eggs in this guy’s basket. This of course is the same league who went from the king of sports in this country to being eclipsed by NCAA women’s basketball so I don’t have much hope.
Glad we could squeeze some casual misogyny in there, awesome work
They should disclose the name of the bank. Their customers have a right to know.
Tokyo Rose didn’t notice 40M in losses from his account? Sure, that’s believable…
Lil racism for fun
Nice ad hominem since you can’t dispute the fact. My off color insult (which is connected to hypocrisy, not race) has a legitimate question attached, what’s your reply?
My reply is that guys like you will beleive what you want, no matter what is presented to you. I dont have all the answers but I have 0 belief in some grand scheme.
You’re wrong about what data I use to form my beliefs, but this Ohtani story is missing lots of information and because he is a star, he is not being investigated. See, baseball has a reputation and he’s not being properly investigated to protect it. He may very well be innocent, but without a purposeful investigation, this is whitewashing…oops did I use a naughty word you need your safe space to handle?
I’m not impressed by your “oh are you triggered!?” routine, it’s pretty pathetic actually. But since you have all the answers and know the inner workings of the fbi, I’ll, ahem, defer to your expertise
Actually I don’t think either of us are triggered, but glad you realize you should defer to my expertise.
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Dennis time to cancel your account
I’ll take advice from a giants fan…never. Have fun in your broken crap city. Watch out for the human feces…
gee I wonder who this guy votes for?
Dennis come out with your hands up. We got you surrounded.
I’m guessing I have little to worry if you two are surrounding me, but impressed you guys have the guts to engage.
Lmaoo, you wanna take this outside?
I’m a little guy and my bank will report to the Feds if I transfer or deposit a few thousand out of normal habits.
Geesh!
I think your “out of normal habits ” is key… What are Ohtani’s normal habits, banking wise? Pretty sure banks and feds are all geared up for rich people moving around bigger blocks of change than the rest of us …
Read the criminal complaint.
assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rxtbqz…
Quite a number of folks on this forum should be eating crow right now.
They lack the humility, intelligence or emotional capabilities. So, they’ll double down and call everyone else crazy and then wonder why their kids don’t call.
MLB and their empty suit commissioner have allowed Ohtani to completely avoid answering any questions from the press. Every other player is instructed that answering press questions is a condition of employment.
Except this guy.
And so it is no surprise that the Tax Dodgers are shielding this guy like he’s a China doll.
The whole thing continues to stink to high heaven.
How TF does $4.5m go missing and we’re supposed to believe he had no idea what was going on?
So much for “the greatest player in MLB history”.
That last line is really it. People like you can’t handle that he’s the star that he is, and you’ll believe anything that allows you to ignore reality. Jealous and sad
Anyone that thinks Ohtani is clear of all of this is gullible and have blinders on. No way he doesn’t notice losing 16 million. This is as blatant a MLB coverup there ever is. No way MLB would allow the actual truth come out as it’s cost them more money than ever with revenue from all facets of sports. Gambling (legal lol), sales, attendance, etc.
I really enjoy living in a world where people don’t read and it doesn’t stop them from saying things like “this doesn’t add up.”
A world where a story of someone having millions allegedly stolen and it can’t simply be a crime that happened.
A world where people say it doesn’t make sense that someone could ever steal money from someone else and not get caught… in the comments section of a story where someone allegedly stole millions and it was clearly discovered.
And a world where it won’t matter what comes of this story, because the people who say all these things also say the media lies, the government lies, and the investigators lie.
It’s a lot of fun knowing those kinds of people are out there, refusing any and all information if it doesn’t fit their imagined worldview.
And You have access to that information? Did the FBI release its investigation report? Can you link it please?
documentcloud.org/documents/24542203-usa-v-mizuhar…
And if you believe that Ohtani had nothing to do with it there is also a nice bridge for sale cheap, across the East River in NYC
The rough estimate from Forbes is that Ohtani made 65M in 2023. Over a 6 year period 16M was embezzled, about 2.67M per year on average. A little over 230K a month. Not an eye-catching number when the overall is considered.
An average guy making 65k a year and his gf takes 200 a month from his wallet. Perspective.
Except a wallet is physical with no paper trail. I get your analogy but there’s a legitimate electronic trail for this one
But what if his gf had full access to his bank account to help him pay rent, utilities, groceries, car payments, gas, housekeepers, etc.? She then spends a little something each month at a hair salon unbeknownst to him that it’s a dummy company with money washed through cryptocurrency for a bookie or a drug dealer.
Better analogy
Yeah maybe most people are jumping the gun saying Ohtani is flat out guilty but I find it equally laughable at how Dodgers fans are coming out of the woodwork to defend this guy like they know 100% he did nothing wrong? Do Dodgers fans have access to the FBI report while other fans do not? This entire story has changed numerous times, has more holes in it than Chris Davis’s swing and is just flat out suspicious. Personally I don’t know why he’d make bets with the amount of money he has but he had to know there was something going on.
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MLB issued a statement on the matter, per Jesse Rogers of ESPN and others: “We are aware of the charges filed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office against Mr. Mizuhara for bank fraud after a thorough federal investigation. According to that investigation, Shohei Ohtani is considered a victim of fraud and there is no evidence that he authorized betting with an illegal bookmaker. Further, the investigation did not find any betting on baseball by Mr. Mizuhara. Given the information disclosed today, and other information we have already collected, we will wait until resolution of the criminal proceeding to determine whether further investigation is warranted.”
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K this is funny.
I knew MLB would be relieved to have a pretext to drop this subject, but I expected them to at least go through the motions of their own full investigation.
I said someone should crowdfund a giant rug for Manfred to sweep this under, but the FBI just donated it to him.
Not the best look if you want people to think you’re still serious about enforcing Rule 21 against any and all employees of MLB. But I guess the sanctity of that pretty much already went out the window when they started with Draft Kings partnerships.
Heck, just say you’re still going to do your own investigation, even if you don’t actually do it (or do the smallest, most trivial one possible). But whatever.
So you want a civilian, Manfred, interfering with a federal investigation by interviewing key witnesses in a Homeland Security case? I don’t think the Feds would like that.
MLB never investigates potential criminal wrongdoing if only because any information they did obtain would then become evidence in a criminal case. This includes domestic violence allegations as we’ve seen so many times already.
@BlueSkies_LA
I have to presume your post is sarcasm. MLB, of course, went out of its way to investigate Bauer, long after the LA authorities announced they would not be pursuing charges.
You have this exactly backwards. MLB’s investigation into Bauer took as long as it did to complete because they could not interview anyone involved until the DA made a charging decision. The policy on domestic violence developed jointly by MLB and the PA is an employment policy. It has nothing to do with the law. The only connection between the law and the policy is the policy only comes into play when the law is does not. This is exactly what has happened to every other player who violated the policy but not found by law enforcement to have committed a crime. It’s happening with Urias right now. I’m sorry you don’t understand how this works, but your lack of understanding changes nothing about how it actually works.
If MLB and Homeland Security/IRS tried to do simultaneous investigations, MLB could inadvertently create problems for the government with discrepancies in testimonies and/or breaches in chain of custody for any evidence obtained. It’s best to let the big dogs have their way first.
@BlueSkies
Settle down, first of all. I don’t know you and a difference of opinion isn’t attacking your knowledge. I honestly did think your post read as sarcasm.
Second, I think we’re getting hung up on whether or not MLB conducted their own extensive investigation of Bauer at all vs. whether or not it was investigating a crime. My whole point is they went out of their way to conduct their own investigation of Bauer, above and beyond the criminal investigation, and for the sole purpose of determining if and how MLB would punish Bauer in relation to his employment. You are reading in me connecting the dots to MLB conducting a “criminal investigation” that is not there. I agree they don’t do criminal investigations. They investigate whether their employees violated policies.
My sole point was MLB was very interested in investigating this question in relation to Bauer, and is transparently not interested in doing so when it comes to Ohtani. That’s it. Thanks.
@Jack
I have already said I don’t expect MLB to do a simultaneous investigation. I just expect it to do one, no more or less comprehensive than it was with Bauer. It looks to be a whole lot less than that, and looks both like obvious favoritism, and tacitly admitting MLB will not investigate betting on the sport for the right ballplayer. That is a bad look.
@Jack I said for MLB to do its own investigation. I did not say when.
The Bauer precedent, and others, is for MLB to go out of its way to note it can and will perform its own investigation, and can and will levy punishment regardless of whether the individual in question was found criminally liable.
So it should go with Ohtani. MLB can perform its own investigation after the Feds have wrapped up, explicitly with the goal to leave no stone unturned to confirm Ohtani did not, in fact, ever bet on baseball games while being an MLB employee, even if he did so in a jurisdiction where doing so is otherwise legal.
I didn’t make this precedent. MLB did. Except, as one could predict, MLB is conspicuously reluctant to follow that precedent with Ohtani, for obvious reasons. I would simply have expected MLB to be more careful about making plain the obvious favoritism, when that is evidently not the case.
If I have to spell it out, if Shohei Ohtani were Trevor Bauer, MLB would certainly be performing its own investigation, no question, after the Feds finished up.
Completely false, for reasons already explained.
@BlueSkies
^ No context for this, but I think we have worked out our differences. Have a good day my new friend.
I guess none of ya ever heard about the long con and really are just a bunch of suckers yourself. It takes time for Ippei to earn Ohtani’s trust. So Ippei opens this account in 2018 but Ohtani doesn’t trust him enough to handle financial matters until 2021. I’m going to assume Ippei’s role changed from interpreter to personal assistant and that would give him access to bank accounts. Personal assistants help manage basically everything in their bosses lives in which they are supposed to be trying to help. Ippei waited until Ohtani trusted him, then began bleeding him dry in 2021. I fully believe this story and that there is no cover up here. Shohei got misled by someone he thought had his best interest in mind, if anything what you would think Ohtani has learned is to have 2 people doing the same job checking each other’s work.
You must have a lot of money for it to take $16m to realize anything’s missing
IIRC, the only way he was caught was through the bookie having payments to them from Ohtani’s bank account. Apparently it would still be happening if the bookie wasn’t caught by the feds.
This whole thing will be white washed… Most other players when under investigation are placed on the “restricted list”…
Must be nice to be so rich that you don’t notice 16 million missing!
When my gal goes and takes $16 MM from my back pocket for some smokes an a Slurpee I feel it and I feel it good!
Cue the conspiracy theorists who think they know more than the FBI…
This the same fbi that sent like 20 agents to investigate a garage door handle as a hate crime?
@White Sox YOU NAILED IT
Don’t you know— Pete Rose is wishing he had an interpreter that could have been his fall guy?
So how did an interpreter gain access to all necessary information to pull this off remotely via phone?
So Ippei was able to gain access to his accounts (how’d he get username and password?)
Disabled alerts
Set up a new account in ohtani’s name (how’d he get information to open a separate account?)
He then funneled money between accounts and it never alerted ohtani but how’d it go unnoticed amongst accountants or financial advisors?
So no one tried to contact ohtani like text messages or mail or email?
Yeah there’s lot of missing parts to this story.
Any bets on which team’s home ballpark will play The Gambler by Kenny Rogers first when their team plays the Dodgers and Ohtani is called to bat?
The A’s in 3-4 years.
This is such an Angels scenario.
Did Ohtani bring the bad karma up the 5 freeway?
I don’t care anymore.
I will leave all the commentary to the experts here who know the in’s and out’s of professional athletes personalities, the workings of the FBI, and the IRS.
I’m confused with how Ohtani didn’t realize 16 million dollars was missing?
There’s a lot of WOOD in this comment section
the new narrative that says he went w Ohtani as his interpreter to open a bank account is making more sense. he stole the account numbers and went to work. i’m no millionaire in cash but i couldn’t tell you my balances in cash in multiple accounts on a given day. in Shohei’s case you would believe he’d have hired professionals watching it but maybe he didn’t?
There seems to be more to this but we may never know. As of now the worst thing Ohtani has done is not notice 16 million being drained from his account over a few year period. That seems a little suspicious. I personally like Ohtani and hope he’s not involved at all. I don’t think this is all the info that’s available though.
So I’m supposed to believe that an interpreter/assistant/friend of Parlay Ohtani making let’s say $300-$500k per year, somehow funneled nearly $20,000,000 from Ohtani without a personal accountant, business partner, or someone looking at his financial affairs raising an eyebrow?
REALLY?
Here’s my question (as a gambler in a state that it’s illegal as well) how does a guy that makes that kind of $ get that much credit with an illegal bookie? I mean the numbers we’re talking about are crazy and if you count his wins (we all win and lose plays) this guy allegedly has gambled nearly $50M.
ESPN site just spilled more details regarding his interactions with the bookie.
Thank you.
Wow. The sh&t we get ourselves into. What a nightmare situation.
“Technically” is an odd word to use. So generally speaking, he didn’t steal from him, but technically speaking, he did.
Yep. You would have to have fallen off the proverbial turnip truck to believe this fantasy
Wonder if Superstar will have to borrow money from The Dodgers, since he is only getting 2 million a year in current salary. Most of his money is deferred!
Nike will covet his losses
how the hell do you not know someone is stealing $16 million plus out of your bank account. something doesnt seem right. The way things are so corrupt in our country , I wouldn’t be surprise at all that major league baseball is covering something up. Since Ohtani is the face of baseball.
You can be sure of it
I have no knowledge of anything that happened.
My only question is how stupid is Ohtani? Really?
Either way, whether he did know about the $16 million or not, he will forever be considered a fool for allowing his translator to put him in this situation…
Do I think it’s a cover up? I have no idea, but there is no cover up to the obvious fact that Ohtani is not smart and probably would be working at a fast-food place if he couldn’t hit or throw a ball.
What a fool!!!!
Americans lost $10 billion a year to fraud last year…so yeah it’s happens
:Lol
Really, your translator stealing 16 million, your agent not knowing, your manager not knowing, your accountant not knowing and every other person who is working for Ohtani not knowing….happens all the time?.
Maybe shielding him so much is the reason why this happened.
Ohtani is not smart, that we definately have evidence of.
“From the moment Ohtani landed in the U.S. with Mizuhara in tow, Mizuhara was his financial point person. In 2018 — likely during spring training, given that the pair were in Arizona — Mizuhara allegedly joined Ohtani at a bank branch and translated for him as Ohtani set up an account.”
“That was reportedly the account in which Ohtani’s salary from the Angels was deposited (Ohtani received $42,269,259 from the Angels during his tenure) and over which Mizuhara asserted total control.”
“Bank records reportedly show that the account was in Ohtani’s name, but the contact information connected to it was changed to Mizuhara’s phone number and an anonymous email address connected to Mizuhara. Transfers were allegedly made from the account using devices and IP addresses associated with Mizuhara.”
“Mizuhara allegedly went as far as pretending to be Ohtani when speaking with bank employees, according to calls recorded by the bank:”
“Let’s say you are a baseball agent who has a client who will someday sign a contract worth $700 million. Let’s say that client doesn’t speak English fluently and needs an interpreter to navigate life in the U.S. Let’s say that interpreter becomes the player’s de facto manager. Let’s say that interpreter tells you your client has a “private” bank account that not even the financial managers you hired can access.”
“At what point would you start using a different interpreter to verify this information? If your answer is sometime before or during that final point, congratulations. You are more communicative than CAA’s Nez Balelo was with Ohtani.”
“The complaint bears that out, with Balelo telling investigators that he does not employ any individuals who speak Japanese but will occasionally hire his own interpreters to communicate with clients. In Ohtani’s case, however, Balelo used only Mizuhara because he was always with Ohtani.
It appears that in their years-long history, Balelo has never actually talked to Ohtani without using Mizuhara as a go-between.”
Copy/paste any of that to find source material. The answers to your questions are on line and not hard to find… even the 37 page complaint against Miz is online.
You are more game for this than I am anymore. The conspiracy theorists won’t read it and even if they do will claim that it couldn’t possibly be true. They’re all seemingly hunkered down in their information free bunkers waiting for the rapture or something.
Some people are going to ignore the facts and only want to believe whatever is convenient to them. The complaint was an interesting read. I can presume that Ohtani was drawing only from his Japanese accounts with money earned there for personal expenses due to his lack of attention to his U.S.-based accounts. You would think Nez Balelo would try harder to get Ohtani to allow CAA’s CPAs to look inside his “private” account for tax reporting purposes. Mizuhara doesn’t come across as the sharpest tool.
Balelo is his agent, not his minder or even his business manager. The thing about conmen is they are really good at being convincing right up until they aren’t. Then their story falls apart and they are standing naked in front of the world. Then they go to prison.
CAA does manage his domestic endorsement/marketing money. He’s got a huge deal with New Balance. Yeah that whole story-flipping with ESPN was idiotic and a total panic reaction. Why would you leave your best friend in the dark and not speak with him first?! Or even speak with reporters in the first place? Lawyer the eff up and let the ESPN story drop.
Blue……The sad part is when everything comes to light and more and more finally see and hear the details of how Ohtani had no reason not to trust his close friend who also happened to work for him. When more info is out there all of these who are screaming cover-up etc will either never mention it again or they will double down. You won’t hear any say…. “opps….I guess I was wrong”
His law firm sure didn’t help him any. Seems nobody there speaks Japanese either. Ohtani really needs a business manager and a minder, someone trustworthy who handles all the stuff in his life that isn’t about playing baseball. I’ll bet you a dollar that’s what happens.
Sadly, you are right. We’re seeing this already. It’s just a microcosm of so many other things going on today.
Though interestingly, Bill Platchke at the LA Times just ate a big helping of crow on this subject, admitting that he got it wrong the first time. But he’s probably already regretting saying so. The comments on his column are almost entirely negative. Another microcosm.
Since they fired his friend, er I mean his thief, doesn’t this trigger an opt out option in his contract?
Would that make him a friendly thief, or a thiefly friend?
Another whitewash by the artist Manfred.
Wow…..Manfred is the director of the FBI….who knew?
According to the affidavit, Mizuhara repeatedly texted the bookmaker asking for more credit. On Nov. 14, 2022, he wrote, “I’m terrible at this sport betting thing huh? Lol . . . Any chance u can bump me again?? As you know, you don’t have to worry about me not paying!!”
Wow, wild stuff
No kidding. And then he stole some more money.
People who don’t believe addicts behave this way, I don’t know. They need to get out more, I guess.
Addiction doesn’t discriminate. The lies… the manipulations… Sad end to this story really.
I don’t know anything but I hate that Ohtani went to the Dodgers and signed a giant contract so he is guilty!!
Trevor Bauer…….same thing!!!!
Guilty.
(Most people posting probably)
You must be an Angels fan! Bauer was exonerated and never prosecuted! So far, same thing with Ohtani!
the DVRO he got says you are wrong…
Sarcasm my man.
The Bauer thing was an obvious BS story from the first moment it came out. He was stupid but not criminal. Should have never gotten to where it was/is.
My point is people are gullible and believe the headline, and even more so when they WANT something to be true because they don’t like the player, person, team, etc.
And I am a lifelong Dodgers. Even so, I wish Bauer could sue the Dodgers for all the money he was owed. Dodgers were cowards in all this
Lee Harvey Mizuhara.
It’s interesting to see from these postings that many people do not make any distinction among IRS, Homeland Security, and FBI. They are not one and the same. Each has its own jurisdiction and mission. Not once in any news stories has the FBI been mentioned as an investigating agency. For the sake of accuracy, the posters citing FBI involvement should give it a rest.
You’re right. Only the IRS is. It’s in the official gov’t complaint.
I like the people that say….Why is Homeland involved, this isn’t national security without realizing that under the Homeland umbrella are……
CISA (Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency)
FEMA
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
Transportation Security Administration
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
U.S. Coast Guard
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
U.S. Secret Service…Secret Service has primary jurisdiction to investigate threats against Secret Service protectees but they also investigate financial crimes; credit card fraud; telecommunications fraud; computer fraud, identify fraud and certain crimes affecting federally insured financial institutions.
That just might be why homeland is involved. /s
That bookie text is the most seemingly thing about this story and obvious used to make sure nothing happens to Ohtani like the changing of the story.
I dont think Ohtani bet on baseball yet theirs still weirdness and other factors that will never be explained because this is why Ohtani went to the West Coast. To be where press isnt crazy and he gets to be treated like a dumb oblivious player.
Reminds me of Hockey Player Jack Johnson whose parents embezzled almost all his earnings and he had to declare bankruptcy. I believe his Dad was his agent / Mgr and put him on an allowance while lying about where his money was!
The only person I want to hear from is the bookie when he cuts a plea deal.
Then we will know the truth, what ever that is.
Lol… you can’t be serious. The illegal bookie is the source of all truth? Lmfao
yeah, bc if the bookie makes a deal and lies, there goes the plea deal and say hello to 20 years in prison.
Yep. Please learn how criminal law works in the US. Thanks
Look, to anyone who says, “I know he’s guilty,” or “Of course it’s a cover-up”…just stop it because you don’t know. That said, is there reason for a healthy dose of skepticism? Certainly – the whole thing has smelled like sour milk from the start. But only Ohtani and his inner circle know for sure. And we may never know the truth. Even if the Feds believed Ohtani was guilty of a crime, they have to have evidence. So far, apparently, there isn’t any. The interpreter is going to jail, and Ohtani will be cleared of any wrongdoing. That’s just the way it’s going to be. We can speculate all we want, but none of us know anything except what we are told.
You literally speculated.
Kenny Rogers Mizuhara
Consider this a small IQ test. If you believe MLB has the DoJ, the Feds and the banking system in their back pocket, you fail.
Yup.
If you believe MLB has the DoJ, the Feds and the banking system in their back pocket, you fail.
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I hope you know that everything in the indictment could be 100% accurate. and that Ippie could still be placing the wagers on behalf of Ohtani.
Not sure why folks don’t understand that.
Ok is dude going to jail over this if not biggest cover up in baseball
I am really shocked by the overwhelming amount of commenters who seem to really want Ohtani to be guilty. The more exonerating evidence that comes in, the more it is dismissed as a cover up! So odd to me.
I wish I could say I was surprised, but this is really how we live today.
I sincerely DON’T want Ohtani to be guilty. I love the game. I don’t want it damaged. But the affidavit raises very serious questions as to how 16M gets transferred without it being caught either by accountants or the banking system.
The indictment should clear this up for you. It explains in great detail how this crime was committed. No accountants were involved and if communications were required with the bank Mizuhara impersonated Ohtani over the phone. The money was skimmed off over a period of years, not all at once. This is how financial crimes are committed.
BlueSkys…. If he impersonated someone on the telephone…that’s a very real issue. The bank allowed their own basic security to be breached.
Maybe we should call up our banks and see if they let us transfer money sight unseen. Possessing someone’s information is not ID.
Online accounts are backed by password. Or course those could be hacked. BUT that wouldn’t make a bank negligent.
What this says is that you or I with basic information stolen from Ohtani could have transferred that money out on the phone.
I’m not fully buying that without someone having knowledge within the institution. That just does not vibe. What, some bank teller just takes a call and is in awe…and let’s normal protocol slide? I’d buy that as soon as they became complicit through a bribe of some kind. We’re talking 16M dollars. Anyone dealing with those large sums would want to ensure smooth sailing and could possibly make that happen.
I’ve read the affidavit and there’s very concerning questions. I’m not saying Ohtani is implicated. But I’m not sold more aren’t involved.
The indictment doesn’t say which transactions required a call to the bank, but as I think we all know, banks don’t ID your voice. They use verification questions to determine if you are who you say you are. Since the indictment states that Mizuhara set up the account(s) for Ohtani he obviously had complete access including the ability to verify an identity to someone on the phone. He didn’t have to hack anything, except his trust relationship with Ohtani.
People get scammed out of large sums of money all the time. The banks really don’t care that much. They follow procedures but they aren’t responsible for preventing you from handing over control of your money to someone untrustworthy.
My bank wouldn’t allow me to access my accounts even if I was present without some form of photo verification. In fact, my bank has my photo on file to pull up.
While I get that simple transactions are done online. These were not simple, nor small in nature….and repeated. Sounds to me like it was accountants in various places…Ohtanis agency, the banks, who actually began asking questions. The interpreter was being cornered from two sides. He also had the Feds on the bookie level coming.
Trust me…the banks care. They’re audited and must comply or be fined severely.
Addendum to my earlier post: after reading the entire indictment, I found it explains clearly that Mizuhara called the bank several times impersonating Ohtani to initiate a wire transfer to the bookie’s bank account. The first time he failed to convince the bank that he was the account owner and online access was frozen. He called back and by using personal information about Ohtani it was unfrozen and he was able to initiate the transfer. All of the online access to this account was from Mizuhara’s phone. Ironically had Ohtani attempted to access this account himself he probably would have been unable, since the phone number registered to the account was Mizuhara’s.
Also, Mizuhara told Ohtani’s agent and the accountant and the investment advisor he hired that Ohtani wanted this account to be completely “private.” He told them not to worry about the possible tax consequences because it wasn’t bearing any interest and wasn’t being used for any gifts. All communications went through Mizuhara. Nobody else involved speaks Japanese.
Read all the grisly details here (if you dare):
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I’ve read it. And those details are being taken by word at some point and don’t perhaps speak to the depths of the involvement by anyone. It just says he talked his way into getting access. On some level that’s taking someone at their word. This case is NOWHERE near over…it’s not wrapped up..and it’s potential that someone is used as witness against a bookie operation and or a financial institution. The bank let more than 40M go…by breaching their fiduciary responsibility.
This is how Miami boomed in the 80s. Basically acting like a money launder for cartels. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that we have a COUPLE things going on….some outside of Ohtani and his potential knowledge.
We might be seeing a bank get busted and a larger gambling operation busted.
You’ve totally lost me now. I guess it was only a matter of time. Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.
Ohtani never thought to look at a bank account or brokerage account statement? No one is that busy, that at least once a year, you look at your financial statements.
And all those text messages the investigation
produced indicating Ohtani was not involved are fake too! Is that right? Lol I guess law enforcement is in cahoots too! Because you know… they all be on Dodgers payroll!
I read the entire thing. It is just as likely as Ohtani was involved as not. If I were a betting man, no pun intended, I’d gladly bet that Ohtani was involved.
agreed Joe
Try reading for comprehension next time
A brave man, considering it’s a bet you already lost.
Never wonder for a minute how Ohtani was scammed.
As I’ve said before, I have no objection to the coverup.
But there is very little chance I am wrong. Just consider these common sense issues”
1-He needs to obtain all of Ohtani’s credentials.
2-He needs to bypass the bank security systems.
3-He needs to establish a million $ line of credit with a bookie, when the dude might make $200-300k.
4-The indictment says $40M was lost, but only $16M was stolen to cover the $40M. Is there even the tiniest chance that Ippie owes the bookie $24M?
5-Ohtani had to never open up his bank statements for 26 months.
None of t his happens in real life. I don’t usually say this, but I don’t think there is any chance I am wrong.
Such a farce. We all know Mizuhara was funneling that cash to John Fisher so he could sign the ‘big free agent’, Ross Stripling
The only thing I admire about the state of California is that sports betting is illegal
Just as Ulnar Collateral Ligament Reconstruction is known as ‘Tommy John Surgery’, the sports industry fall guy will now be known as an ‘Ippei Mizuhara Steward’.
Betting on sports or anything else makes as much sense as playing the lottery and is for suckers. Sooner or later you’re going to lose your shirt. Only play with the money you’re prepared to lose. I’ll keep my money thank you.
The most suspicious thing of all is. Someone who is a degenerate gambler didn’t bet on baseball at all. But bet on every other sport
For a lot of reasons, I hope Ohtani is no more than a perfectly innocent victim. But, really! How does someone siphon off that much cheese and Ohtani not know?
Hard for me to explain or understand since my bank account is, shall I say, not in that stratosphere.
If all turns out the way it is now being portrayed, the worst anyone can say about Ohtani is that he was a fool.
But you know what they say about a fool and his money.
I would compare Ohtani being completely innocent with how completely bizarre this all is with OJ not being guilty in his infamous court case in middle 1990’s.
Being swept under the rug, Can you imagine what would be done to a white ballplayer ? Saying he didn’t know his money was gone ? What a hoot. Pete an Joe and the black sox, oh well. Times they are a changing.
He’s used to be Ohtani’s bi*ch, now he’s about to be someone else’s bi*ch for 30 years.
Shohei has so much money, he didn’t even know some was missing. Wish I had that problem. This whole thing is a laugher to me. So much money, such a big sandbox and people get greedy? No kidding.
His accountants would miss 16M. That’s actually a substantial sum for him..even over several seasons. I’m married to an elite cpa….they’re Dobermans.
The criminal affidavit contains all of the details. Stop the speculation: documentcloud.org/documents/24542204-usa-v-mizuhar…
Time to talk to the bank employee who allowed 500K up to 16M to be transferred OVER THE PHONE. Wonder what kinda car they’re driving. I’m weeding through this affidavit. Since when can you just call a bank? With the immense bank fraud that has occurred…16M isn’t gonna make a major bank even wince at applying security rules. Sounds like they might have had a stooge in the bank.
It’s all just “lost in the translation”….
Lied to them about being Mr. Ohtani? What!?!? He got access to the account and pulled 16M….and NO one with Ohtani’s financial team picked up on that, Yeah….I’ll call bs on that!
They very carefully worded that Ohtani is not a suspect at this time.
His accountants would have nailed this over time. 16M is a SUBSTANTIAL sum.
He hand no financial team…Miz was the sole point person
None in Japan even?
I’m still calling bs on the banking institution. That was a major breach of security. From what I have gathered these were made by phone call.
Ohtani has an agent…various other people. And his money was handled by a single person? That’s a LOT of trust. Likely close enough of a person that you might be aware of their personal habits and concerns.
Feds ran these charges fairly quick. Wherever they believe this is going. They now basically have the interpreter set to talk.
I just can’t see Ohtani being this naive, nor the financial institutions allowing this. They have ZERO incentive. Who was the bank? I can’t find that..
Bank of America has a 300 billion market cap. They wouldn’t blink at applying basic security.
Guessing they set up this account someplace smaller.
Ohtani at minimum was set up as part of a slow burn scam basically going back go the time he came to America.
Unreal!
Ohtani has no agent? Manager? Accountant? Financial advisor?
He is the strangest celebrity. Most have multiple people working for them.
CF……………..
“From the moment Ohtani landed in the U.S. with Mizuhara in tow, Mizuhara was his financial point person. In 2018 — likely during spring training, given that the pair were in Arizona — Mizuhara allegedly joined Ohtani at a bank branch and translated for him as Ohtani set up an account.”
“That was reportedly the account in which Ohtani’s salary from the Angels was deposited (Ohtani received $42,269,259 from the Angels during his tenure) and over which Mizuhara asserted total control.”
“Bank records reportedly show that the account was in Ohtani’s name, but the contact information connected to it was changed to Mizuhara’s phone number and an anonymous email address connected to Mizuhara. Transfers were allegedly made from the account using devices and IP addresses associated with Mizuhara.”
“Mizuhara allegedly went as far as pretending to be Ohtani when speaking with bank employees, according to calls recorded by the bank”
“Let’s say you are a baseball agent who has a client who will someday sign a contract worth $700 million. Let’s say that client doesn’t speak English fluently and needs an interpreter to navigate life in the U.S. Let’s say that interpreter becomes the player’s de facto manager. Let’s say that interpreter tells you your client has a “private” bank account that not even the financial managers you hired can access.”
“At what point would you start using a different interpreter to verify this information? If your answer is sometime before or during that final point, congratulations. You are more communicative than CAA’s Nez Balelo was with Ohtani.”
“The complaint bears that out, with Balelo telling investigators that he does not employ any individuals who speak Japanese but will occasionally hire his own interpreters to communicate with clients. In Ohtani’s case, however, Balelo used only Mizuhara because he was always with Ohtani.
It appears that in their years-long history, Balelo has never actually talked to Ohtani without using Mizuhara as a go-between.”
Copy/paste any of that to find source material. The answers to your questions are on line and not hard to find… even the 37 page complaint against Miz is online.
It’s here:
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Nobody should be offering their foolish opinions about this without reading it first. We know how that will work out.
Blue…………..
No different than trying to persuade a flat-earther that the Earth is a slightly elongated sphere.
You can place every photo from space, every testimony from scientists etc and they will tell you it’s all fake,…that earth is flat, there is an ice wall around it, a dome over it and the moon is a hologram. Of course they have no real proof….but they are right and facts are fake.
An oblate spheroid, just to get technical. 😉
Well…..La-De-Da…..LOL
Ok, so I just ran this by one of the top CPA’s in America. An “Emerging Leader of the Year” in the field, and one of the Top 20 employers in the field. Someone who handles transactions in the billions.
I got an instant laugh. I was told that there are too many people for that to pass through his financial team, or the bank. It’s just inconceivable for it to not have been caught.
Well….I’ll leave it at what the implications are if it DID.
Too many people….normally maybe….not here
From the moment Ohtani landed in the U.S. with Mizuhara in tow, Mizuhara was his financial point person. In 2018 — likely during spring training, given that the pair were in Arizona — Mizuhara allegedly joined Ohtani at a bank branch and translated for him as Ohtani set up an account.
That was reportedly the account in which Ohtani’s salary from the Angels was deposited (Ohtani received $42,269,259 from the Angels during his tenure) and over which Mizuhara asserted total control.
Bank records reportedly show that the account was in Ohtani’s name, but the contact information connected to it was changed to Mizuhara’s phone number and an anonymous email address connected to Mizuhara. Transfers were allegedly made from the account using devices and IP addresses associated with Mizuhara.
Balelo telling investigators that he does not employ any individuals who speak Japanese but will occasionally hire his own interpreters to communicate with clients. In Ohtani’s case, however, Balelo used only Mizuhara because he was always with Ohtani.
Balelo explained to some justifiably confused financial managers that the Ohtani bank account controlled by Mizuhara was kosher.
An accountant retained by Balelo also reportedly wanted information on this account while figuring out Ohtani’s taxes and never got it. That accountant reportedly scheduled a meeting with Ohtani and Mizuhara, but only Mizuhara showed up, claiming that Ohtani was sick. When asked about the account, Mizuhara claimed that Ohtani wanted it private from everyone and indicated that it didn’t have any tax implications.
This would have blown up long before now. I have to collude likely bribery with the financial institution employees. Banks and Certified Public Accountants are both highly regulated and licensed. They have no incentive to allow things to happen for risk of losing their ability to do business themselves.
I know what I THINK probably happened. But I’m much firmer on my belief that there’s others involved outside of his interpreter.
I fully understand that Ohtani doesn’t handle his finances like the common person. But he’s not unusual as a wealthy depositer. His finances would be handled by the financial institution in a very standard and uniform fashion. IF they were not….then it’s time to question WHY they weren’t.
The Feds have a much larger case that they are working on.
My thoughts? Its be impossible to move so much money around without SOMEONE beyond the translator being aware. And I’d doubt at some point we don’t hear that Ohtani himself wasn’t atleast aware. I’ll buy he ended up trying to help his friend. That was actually the original story before being retracted because of the obvious implication.
They think it happened that way because they have evidence it happened that way. Mountains of it. And the perp has confess to it besides. Financial crimes are committed every day. Banks are not very good at catching them or they would not happen so often.
Blueskys….we very well COULD have a case of a well intentioned and naive person here. It’s easy to see a famous athlete at the pinnacle of THEIR professional. But that doesn’t speak to any of their capabilities away from it.
I can’t fathom Ohtani didn’t know his close friend was a gambling addict. Even if the extent wasn’t known.
Ohtahi, the generational talent…also might be generational gullible and trusting. I don’t know the guy at all. It seems like few do.
I think it’s fair to speculate whether he didn’t violate RICO Statutes, naively, with better intentions than I’D have for a friend like that.
But his lawyers got them to shut up quick. The issue here isn’t really clearly defined that Ohtani gambled himself. The issue is a potential breach of the CBA that carries a one year suspension.
There’s a LOT going on. There’s two people atleast right now that might not have ANY reason to cover for Ohtani. It’ll flesh out. A bookie taking those sums might have quite the blackbook.
I think all of this is fair enough.
No, it isn’t fair to speculate on that at all. He was the victim of a con man. The feds made that all perfectly clear. They have smoking gun evidence. The crook confessed to the crime. What else do you need to accept this, a message from God? A TV miniseries?
BlueSkys, I appreciate your optimism for Ohtani and your team. And I hope your optimism proves dead right. BUT….there’s NOTHING concluded about this case yet. Bringing the interpreter in might simply end up with him turning into a federal witness. He’s possibly looking at 20 years max for wire fraud.
Yeah, I hope you’re right. But I think your opinion is presumptuous at this point. The thing smells to high heaven
What I am saying has little to do with optimism about either and everything to do with the facts, for as little good as that does us in this day and age where for many people facts count for exactly nothing.
Facts have implications. I can’t base anything off of what I’ve read so far. The case isn’t done. The case is on the bookie.
*heavy sigh* 🙁
You’re WRONG. I was an investigative reporter in NYC & I had frequent dealings with the IRS wing of the Organized Crime Strike Force (OCSF) in Manhattan.
All financial transaction in excess of a certain amount (it was & may still be $10K) are REPORTED to the IRS to ensure against money laundering & other criminal activity.
For $16 Million to be transferred & NOT have the IRS step in Immediately & ask “What was that for?” is beyond total bull****!
Something stinks to high heaven here, and I think it’s more likely that Ohtani was 100% aware of what was going on.
Also, it was implied in some stories that, because his interpreter & friend put any winnings in His Own Account & NOT in Ohtani’s account, that was exculpatory of any involvement by Ohtani. That’s BS, too, and here’s why.
If any winnings were put in Ohtani’s account, then it would be impossible for Ohtani to claim he wasn’t involved. Having any winnings put into an account that was NOT tied to Ohtani gave him “plausible deniability” to any involvement in the illegal gambling.
And having had a great friend who was a compulsive gambler, I can categorically say that No Compulsive Gambler would avoid betting on the ONLY sport in which he had inside information: that is, from Ohtani about the Dodgers and other MLB teams.
You can say I’m jumping the gun, but in my view there’s ZERO chance Ohtani wasn’t involved in this to some level.
But will MLB REALY Investigate that possibility? Probably not because Ohtani is a “star” player, even though this case literally affects the integrity of the game. Let’s call this one The Dodger Blue Sox Scandal.
You are the southbound end of a northbound horse.
This is funny, an interpreter slash cpa and financial advisor. And Ohtani had no clue as to the betting although wins and losses in the 9 figures. I bet Mizuhara has a helluva poker face he should have stuck to the card table
It’s just inconceivable for it to not have been caught.
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Absolutely. Ohtani made about $58M with the Angels. Between taxes and the agent’s fee, let’s say he kept half. That’s $29M. And $16M of that disappeared with no one noticing?
And as an accountant for the past 100 years, if I were handling his finances, and I did not have access to his primary account, part of my signed contract would stipulate that I did not cover that account. Otherwise his accountant is on the hook for everything that disappeared.
And $16M in roughly 26 months is $600k a month in outflow. and no one noticed? Did he never meet with his financial advisors? If he were my client, my opening remark for every meeting would be “I have no access nor responsibility for account xyz”.
And because all accountants are born skeptics, I would assume that any account that I was refused access to would be sketchy.
How old are you?
I’m not sure who the bank is in this case. They are Bank A in the affidavit. But Bank if America is worth nearly 300 billion in market capitalization. While Ohtani is a major sports figure with a massive contract coming. They are NOT going to even blink at enforcing basic security rules on him, or any of his associates. They won’t risk their reputation on what’s pocket change to them.
There’s likely more people involved. INCLUDING the bank employee who allowed large sums to be transferred over the PHONE.
Go call your bank and tell them you want to transfer $500…let alone 500,000.
I can’t conclude that Ohtani was involved from what I’ve read so far. But there’s just no way there’s not others involved.
16M is a LOT of money to be missing from his books.
Not saying they wouldn’t notice such large sums, but I transfer thousands between accounts online all the time with no bank contact at all. That’s pretty standard nowadays. Hundreds of thousands? That may be a different story.
I gathered it was by phone. I took that to be speaking OVER the telephone. I know I’m reacting to shaky information. It’s just very strange.
We move sums in the the thousands and tens of thousands routinely as well. Usually takes a few days.
There’s just so many ways this could be stopped along the path in this scenario.
In my mind I have a bank teller awed by dealing with a star…so they just don’t follow normal protocol. That’s the very simple innocent version. Worst case involves bribery.
Don’t think that banks won’t look the other way to please wealthy customers. Ever hear of Citibank’s role in laundering cartel money in Mexico? Look it up.
It’s possible the Feds wanted the interpreter in because they have a much larger case against a banking institution.
Time to enroll in a babble class.
There is no way you don’t notice money being taken from your bank account let Along 16m or whatever the amount is. And that “Quick” investigation that was done by the FBI is just sketchy. Nothing comes Quick when it comes to investigations in this country unless there is a cover up.
The FBI was not involved with this investigation in any way as far as we know. It was performed by the Department of Homeland Security.
Nothing remotely sketchy about it. They came up with mountains of evidence of what was done and how it was done. And the perpetrator confessed.
And you need something else? You need someone else to tell you it’s true? Who might that be, I wonder?
The indictment states plainly that the FBI was not involved with this investigation at all. It was lead by the IRS and apparently assisted by DHS.
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Interesting to read all the postings by the experts above. With the level of expertise and knowledge expressed in the comments, it helps me understand why the United States has solved all of its problems.
I’m actually married to a nationally renowned CPA. I know what she believes off hand.
They will never be able to prove that the Big O had any knowledge of any illegal activity, because they won’t try.
Could be possible both stories are true.
Ohtani was just trying to help his friend pay some gambling debts, but just gave him cash or a loan unrelated to the bookies account.
AND
ippei stole money behind his back because he was way further in debt than he let ohtani know about.
Where did he come up with the other 24mil that’s unaccounted for?
Did the bookie extend him 24 mil in credit?
There’s still a huge hole in this story.
Looks unlikely ohtani was directly involved in gambling, but I find it hard to believe he was completely in the dark about all of this.
If they were together basically 24/7 for a decade plus and he made 20k individual bets with just this particular bookie, you’d know something just by default.
I’m sure ippei was also placing legal wagers and visiting casinos when in states with legalizing betting.
I dont think ohtani broke any mlb rules per se. But I find it virtually impossible that he wasn’t aware of anything.
There is ZERO chance that both Mizuhara & Ohtani are telling the truth, in my view.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT A COMPULSIVE GAMBLER WOULDN’T BET ON THE ONLY SPORT IN WHICH HE HAS INSIDE INFOR,ATION.
So, why would Mizuhara lie about not betting on baseball? The only logical explanation is that Mizuhara was betting on baseball with Ohtani’s prior knowledge and, possibly, even on behalf of Ohtani.
So, why would Mizuhara lie to protect Ohtani. How about the fact that Ohtani’s $700 Million deal with the Dodgers would be canceled for violating M: rules for gambling on baseball & consorting with illegal gamblers.
Moreover, the explanation of how Mizuhara gained unfetterd access to MILLION$ of Ohtani’s money, supposedly without Octane’s prior knowledge, Screams of Complete Bull****!
Smells more fishy than the Lilith Fair.
ema
muted (misogynist)
But Lilith Fair celebrated women and birkenstocks when warn repeatedly do smell.
On or about March 20, 2024, MIZUHARA messaged BOOKMAKER 1 stating, “Have you seen the reports?” BOOKMAKER 1 responded, “Yes, but that’s all bulls***. Obviously you didn’t steal from him. I understand it’s a cover job I totally get it.” MIZUHARA then responded to BOOKMAKER 1, “Technically I did steal from him. it’s all over for me.”
– copied from the complaint.
BOOKMAKER 1 responded, “Yes, but that’s all bulls***. Obviously you didn’t steal from him. I understand it’s a cover job I totally get it.”
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At the end of the day, why would the bookie lie about where the money came from? If the bookie says it is a cover job, it might be time to believe him.
JB
Alternate possibility
The bookmaker didn’t know, thus, they weren’t lying.
A couple of ideas here:
1-Bookies don’t extend that type of credit to commoners. The idea that a bookie would extend millions in credit to a guy like Ippie, is almost impossible. He almost certainly knew that the $16M or $40M was coming from Ohtani.
2-And back to my original question, why would the bookie text something like that? “I understand it’s a cover job I totally get it.”
The fact that the bookie almost certainly knew that the money came from Ohtani, and the fact that he texts that it was a cover job, makes it almost impossible for me to believe that it wasn’t a cover job.
My way of approaching things like this is that, if there was $1M on the table, and I had to guess A or B, and get the $1M or nothing, I betting Ohtani was involved, and I wouldn’t even think twice about it.
And FWIW, I understand the coverup and have very little problem with it. Ohtani is too important to BB to have him be suspended or expelled.
I was all good. Just a sad story of American excess chewing up and spitting out a naive foreigner. Then I read that final paragraph in the espn report. “Technically” is a worry for me. Why does he consider himself only guilty of theft in a technical sense ? Certainly alludes to some complexity in his access to Ohtani’s cash.
This is a damning part of the affidavit, to say the least.
Just a sad story of American excess chewing up and spitting out a naive foreigner.
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Nonsense. If a native, and let’s call him Trevor B, got involved in a shakedown, there would be people that spit all over him.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Ohtani being Japanese, and everything to do with $16M or $40M, and gambling.
Sure. That comment was more a reflection of the movie plot feel of that report.
That’s just the vibe reading the story gave me.
Foppert- “technically” came across to me like a potential patsy speaking.
This came AFTER it was public. Smacks of the Feds basically putting a wire on the bookie.
Ha ha. A wire is taking the movie plot feel a bit too far for me.
My immediate reaction was he had had it explained to him why, when considering legal technicalities, he was in fact guilty of theft. This is why you won’t be lying if you own up to theft type of conversation. Maybe he was simply referring to a distinction between embezzlement and theft. Who knows. It was a little plot twist right at the death of that article that threw me.
Foppert2. When was the bookie seized? Before or after this text to him? That’s kind of what I’m saying. That looked like bait coming from the bookie.
Ok. I’ve got you. Fair enough.
Whatever it is, it’s a cracking story.
Foppert2…totally fascinating and it might not even end up trust involving Ohtani. High roller bookie with potential wealthy/celebrity clients.
IF it’s a cover job…the Feds are working on a bigger case also involving many clients. I’m not going to be shocked when we hear other celebrities are named. If I’m the bookie I’d have been securing evidence all along go cover my trail. We shall see.
I agree out of everything that keeps Ohtani out of the case, these lines are the ones I question the most.
The Bookie is the person I want to hear from. When he pleas, everyone will find out the truth.
I gotta learn Japanese: daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
So neat. So easy. So inconclusive
Lol at the FBI being part of a cover up
So many are living in a fantasy land. This guy could never had placed those big bets without SOMEONE vouching for him. But whatever……Ohtani will foot the bill for his lawyers, he’ll get three years probation, return to Japan and write about Ohtani.
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So many are living in a fantasy land.
Agreed
Assuming that you know more than experts and investigators and more than you do is a dangerous fantasy.
Snap the [heck] out of it
Nonsense. Folks opine on everything, every single day. heck, that’s why they have juries and appeals. But I read the entire indictment. The bookie himself acknowledged it was a cover job.
JB
Cute that
And cite how he knew
Thank you
I don’t know how he knew, and that’s the damning part of it. Maybe you would like to speculate why he said what he did.
Or speculate how some dude getting paid maybe $300k can a multi-million $$ line of credit with a bookie?
JB
“I don’t know how he knew,”
Wrong. You don’t know THAT he knew.
I’m not interested in speculating.
Why would Maz say “technically, I did steal from him.” Probably because he knows Shohei can’t be truthful without suffering consequences.
I believe the initial story that Ohtani covered Maz’s debts.. It makes the most sense.
SC
“Why would Maz say “technically, I did steal from him.” ”
Good catch
The only possible reason he could say that he stole from Ohtani is because he didn’t still from Ohtani
I’d say that you should work for the FBI but since they all missed this obvious smoking gun that you caught means that you are miles beyond them
We need to shut down the FBI and let MLBTR commenters solve every crime
Wrong. You don’t know THAT he knew.
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“I understand it’s a cover job I totally get it.”
That’s the exact quote from the text mentioned in the indictment.
How can one interpret that other the bookie says Ippie’s part was a coverup?
JB
Ippie said, and I quote, “I did steal from him.”
So, how can one interpret that other than Ippie says he stole from Ohtani
And why [on earth] do you think the FBI just takes people on their word and doesn’t, ya know, investigate?
I look forward to your response to my direct question
1-It is possible that he did steal from him, as well as placing the bets on his behalf.
2-It could easily be a statement of self-interest. He was going to be in trouble anyway, so why not get paid off to take the fall?
3-Nothing in the report says the Ippie wasn’t placing bets on Ohtani’s behalf.
Now you can answer my questions:
1-Ippie is not getting a million $$ line of creidt.
2-Ippie is unlikely to be able to scam $16M form the bank.
3-Ohtani is unlikely to have never opened any of his bank statements.
4-There is $24M unaccounted for. Ippie does not owe the bookie $24M.
5-The bookie admitted it was a cover job.
Like I said, I have no problem with the coverup, but the chances that Ohtani wasn’t involved in this is about -0-.
Is there any culpability for the bank in this scenario? The phone approval seems like a huge lapse in judgement, but I have no real understanding of the industry.
Oh yeah, Ohtani is gonna hire an attorney to sue the crap out of the banks that let this happen.
They are liable, unless the truth is something different. I will be curious if Ohtani sues the banks. If he does I would say that adds to the fact that he had little knowledge of what happened.
Banks are screwed, they breached fiduciary duty.
CF
They are liable, unless the truth is something different.
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I probably should’ve read your post before I made my post, since it is very similar. I worked for a short while auditing banks, at a low lever, but the amount of paperwork review was pretty intense, even back then. Having an imposter drawing $16M over the phone, without ever visiting the bank, seems implausible.
So why would the banks DO that. What incentive was there? The bank itself would have ZERO. If you’re moving up to 40M over time…maybe sweeten up some insiders?
This will be one of the key things I would look at. If Ohtani sues the bank, and the bank pays off, then I am more likely to believe Ohtani. Same with his personal insurance, assuming he has some.
The bank won’t pay unless pay unless it is their fault. If Ohtani doesn’t sue, then one should question whether or not he was culpable. Looking at it from a personal perspective, if someone called up your 401k provider, and claimed to be you and emptied out you account, I’m guessing about 100% of the folks out there would be contacting their lawyer.
Mizuhara surrendered to federal authorities
Are the Feds talking at all about this case?
Are they saying how long Mizuhara was doing this (over how many years, months? Also, what is amzing to me is how deft Mizuhara was in sending the wires
Sending wires is hard enough, but this dude was apparently a crook and sending wires correctly and without anyone noticing for a long time
How did he do that?
Asking for a friend!
The answer might require you to read something.
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The US District Attorney comes out and says Ohtani is in the free and clear and is 100% a victim and yet there are still morons here that think they know more than the FBI and district attorneys office. Now we know that those still questioning Ohtani’s complicity are just low IQ, jealous, haters, pure and simple.
The same people that deny the election and love conspiracy theories
@VegasSDfan I take it you’re unaware of the DNC’s court filings in 2016-17 that insisted it could and would ignore the will of the voters, that it need not count the votes when selecting its candidates, and that it could use any criteria it wanted in selecting its candidates?
Upheld by the court, btw.
Might want to look that up if you’re insisting on the integrity of U.S. elections (and the integrity of EITHER major party) where the votes are also, get this, counted by proprietary software that cannot be examined by the public.
Is this the same govt that told us about Russia collaboration?
The FBI didn’t even pretend that the Russiagate hoax wasn’t a conspiracy. Steele is probably laughing his a$$ off that anyone took the dossier seriously.
Did you read the Mueller Report?
Parts of it, a long time ago.
Ha, good one!
Did you actually read the Mueller report?
@Tizzi60 It does seem to be the same government of which 50 intelligence officers of high rank including 4 one-time CIA heads, all attested (more than six months after the FBI found it to be entirely credible and indeed belonging to HB) that the HB laptop ‘bore the hallmarks of Russian disinformation,’ a letter organized and circulated for their signature by Antony Blinken, and released to the public in October 2020, shortly before the election—a letter that JB then went on to claim in his debate with DT (I believe it was at Belmont University, around the start of the 4th week of Oct) exonerated he and his son from any connection to the laptop.
Later polls, after the election, reported that 1 voter in 6 considered the truth about the laptop’s real source interesting enough to warrant reconsidering their vote.
When 50 intelligence officers interfere with a presidential election as they clearly did here, the chances you live in an authentic democracy are vanishingly small.
@grnmtnyeti “there are still morons here that think they know more than the FBI and district attorneys office.”
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—–Yes, the FBI would never put politics and public relations ahead of justice. Sigh.
Institutional ‘law enforcement’ is noted for ascending uniformly to the highest standards of morality, truth, and justice. Sigh^2.
District attorneys’ offices are the noblest creations of God and man. (Sigh^1,000 [expSigh^1,000])..
@jack-
Yes, the FBI is going to corrupt themselves so a baseball player doesn’t get suspended or go to jail. Sigh.
Conspiring to help out an athlete is worth the risk for law enforcement in charge of the investigation. The dozens of people involved would never leak that there was a cover up. Sigh.
A district attorney would love to be the one to successfully charge and prosecute the biggest baseball star ever. It would all but guarantee them a step or two up in their career. They could easily move to the private sector and make millions without even winning such a case, they would be guaranteed whatever they wanted with whatever firm they wished if they nailed Ohtani. Exasperated sigh.
Do you even hear yourself? Of course I believe that anyone can be corrupted but no one is risking their freedom just so Ohtacan continue to make money for the Dodgers and MLB. That’s just absurd. Put another layer of foil over your windows, the residual effects of the eclipse are obviously making their way into your parent’s basement…
Evidence be damned. My mind was made up weeks ago. I am not about to let 37 pages of investigative details change what I imagine the REAL facts to be.
When building a federal case against a high value target you always start with the small fish first.
I don’t understand how a guy who at that point was not making THAT much money doesn’t notice 16 million disappear. He got paid through endorsements and what not, but not nearly enough to not notice 16 million disappear. Even now with 100 million a year in contract and endorsements that is like 50 million in the bank take home and he should notice it. This ain’t a billionaire we’re talking about here, but a guy who lost at least 16% of his net worth and didn’t even notice.
was not making THAT much money doesn’t notice 16 million disappear.
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It was probably a lot more than 16% considering the taxes paid on that type of earnings.
But if you question it, you’ll be labeled a conspiracist. You MUST believe every that you’ve been told.
@Chemo850 I’ve known too many people who won’t even look at bank statements, to not at least consider the possibility that Ohtani wouldn’t have noticed even tens of millions missing. As long as whatever he was paying for didn’t set off an alert or the payment didn’t go through, if he’s innumerate and trusts his financial people, how would he know?
Think of all the pro athletes with minimal education who make millions and end up broke in part b/c they have no idea how to keep track of statements and income.
And even if they’re tracking monthly statements, monthly statements (I’m told) are not all that difficult to forge. BITD scissors, magic tape, whiteout… (I’m told) made that kind of forgery a breeze. Now, I suppose a crook would use the bank’s statement template and then just fill in the blanks as desired.
Besides, what if the thief is someone you trust, who also happens to iron your copy of the Wall Street Journal, and hands you your financial statements on the same platter with your Eggs Benedict?
Ohtanis translator wanted to keep him from learning English. This way, he could take advantage of him easier.
This theory is totally plausible.
No, it’s really not. I can’t speak a lick of Japanese, but I understand the conversion ratio of American dollars to Yen and vise versa. So does this guy because I can guarantee you it’s like the first question he asked when he signed his first contract. You see 2,500,000,000 yen disappear from your bank account and you don’t need to know how to speak English. The only language he needs to know is Green and we all know how to speak it
@Chemo850 Why are you assuming Ohtani is any more numerate, than you’re capable of understanding Japanese?
I’m assuming the guy is not a complete idiot. But you might be onto something
Ohtanis translator wanted to keep him from learning English.
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So your working theory here is that Ohtani wanted to learn English, but Ippie kept him from doing so?
Let this be a lesson to any Asian caught stealing. The US will come down hard on you. but If you’re a migrant entering illegally, you get free food and hugs from liberals
Another moron has spoken
Apples and Oranges… smacks of racism.
16 million doesn’t disappear from you without your knowledge. That is a ridiculous amount of money. Prior to the 2023 season, Ohtani hadn’t even made 12 million through game checks…. How is it possible he didn’t know?
In fairness Ohtani’s image is on every ad in Japan, from sports equipment to cologne to mens sweaters but yeah still he’s not nearly rich enough not to know about $320 million in net cash flows.
I have no inside knowledge and could be completely wrong. I would not be surprised if Mizuhara carried Ohtani’s wallet, signed the credit card receipts, and used his cash to buy whatever it is Ohtani said to buy. Ohtani makes enough money that he doesn’t need to check his bank account daily, weekly, maybe ever. I have no idea how the rich live, but I bet it is different than the world I live in. I won’t draw conclusion on this from the outside.
@OriolesOrange Well said. Also, Ohtani probably signs his own credit card receipts and probably carries at least some cash, given he won’t always be in the company of his interpreter.
As long as whatever payments Ohtani is making go through, and as long as the ATM spits out his walking around money, why would he become suspicious?
The idea that “THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE! OHTANI WOULD HAVE TO KNOW!!” is absurd. Why would he ‘have to know’—bc he can hit a baseball 500′? It’s silliness.
“THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE! OHTANI WOULD HAVE TO KNOW!!” is absurd.
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I agree, but I don’t think that’s really the point. The idea of plausible deniability is at the core of every conspiracy defense. Is it possible that Gotti didn’t know his crew was dealing drugs? Sure.
But people get to choose whether it is more likely or less likely that someone knew something
Do you think that Ohtani never looked at any of his statements?
But that’s the thing that makes Sho look like I completely Nimwit
Is Ohtani gonna bail his bagman out?
Just can’t get it through your head? Guys like you will always be the fall guy, cuz you’re weak!
A real shame.
If you have to gamble, at least be good at it.
It’s not difficult, and there are a lot of fish. Chase the fish.
Avoid the sharks.
While The Feds might not be interested in Ohtani as a defendant. If he were to be called to testify against anyone, and admit under oath that he made payments to “help a friend” regardless if the law sought him…gave him immunity, whatever. He’d be in violation of the CBA and subject to a year suspension. I’m curious if that would then void his contract.
Well, it’s obvious he wasn’t spending Ohtani’s money on hair styling….
Hmm … accusation of steals $16 mil but bond is only $25k. Would have been $16mil Bond for some orange person.
You mean an oompa loompa?
Sad democrat.
$16m stolen plus a $1/2M salary doesn’t cover $40m in losses
The Ohtani crime family is going down.
Now I’m curious if it was Mizuhara buying up all those high priced Juan Uribe ’89 Topps on ebay…lol. The ones people suspicioned were a money launder.
Good gracious bookies. Run the cash through eBay “sales”
I’m sorry but not even Jeff Bezos not noticing 320 million in net cash flows.
I “bet” the Dodgers still don’t make it to the WS…
Just stopping by to say that the comment section here is among the worst of any site I regularly follow.
Dodger fans are out in full force trying to defend the guilty Ohtani. It’s not really surprising, Dodger fans are good little democrats who believe whatever they are told. Incapable of independent thought, led like dogs by talking heads. Sorry your tax cheat superstar is also a gambler, who is on video betting.
Highwaymenace,
I’m not a Dodgers fan, but I applaud your typing. Write it all at once? Or did your mom call you to dinner, and you had to come back and finish it?
@ HIGHway
Just what this board needed. Another moron.
Based on the report, it looks like Ohtani is 100% clear of any gambling and there was no evidence in the bookies detailed records to suggest there was any betting on baseball regardless. Not that anyone will actually care what the evidence suggests, people who thought he was guilty will still continue to think that.
I read on an internet forum that Ohtani is actually a reptile. Just saying.
or was it alien? either way
Now makes sense the large amount of money being deferred. Shoei didn’t want to put his $$$$ in harms way while Ippei manages his financials..
The FBI needs to investigate Powerball & Mega-Millions Lottery Corporations, which are run by State Lotteries. There have been several $$ONE BILLION PLUS $$ Drawings that have been delayed, and then subsequently conducting SECRET DRAWINGS in the middle of the night and not broadcast “LIVE” for the General Public Viewing!! There is something very FISHY about these Huge, Big Money Drawings to me..and probably other people as well! You don’t see this happening with lower value Drawings “AT ALL”! SO, PLEASE FBI, IF YOU ARE READING THIS, INVESTIGATE THIS!
Like I’ve said…virtually ANYTHING is possible. But I’m not interested in restating all these possibilities.
There’s zero evidence as presented that Ohtani was truly involved. The wording the prosecute used in the statement was he’s not a suspect “at this time.” Which doesn’t imply anything. It’s just legalese.
I don’t HAVE a theory. I’m ok with whatever. IF Ohtani was involved we’ll likely never know. So then it just derails into JFK type conspiracy trails. I’m not really into that. With anything I’ve stated I’m just trying to cover the bases of possibilities as to what might be going on with the investigation.
If anyone wants to state Ohtani is guilty…they’re being ridiculous. But if they say he’s completely clean or cleared….that’s not absolutely final either. There’s a few people that the Feds have who could and probably would blow Ohtani up at some point if he’s actually involved. And I’ll be comfortable enough if he’s not to move on.
I’m really not finding Ohtani all that interesting in this at this point. I DO find the overall illegal gambling case interesting, though.
Stuff still doesn’t add up. Ippei stole $16 million. But lost $40.7 millions in losses. Who paid the additional $24.7 million in losses? Pete Rose?
Don’t be so ignorant. He won a few, lost more. When you have a winning week, you also have losing bets. In the end, he lost more than he won. He made an average of 25 bets a day for three years.
Do the math. 40.7 million in losses divided by 27,000 bets over three years. Call it $1600 a day in losses, not including the days he actually won. You’re saying he can’t afford that? He didn’t all of a sudden just run up a $40 million dollar gambling debt.