April 15: MLB.com’s Juan Toribio reports (on X) that the Sox and Pham have indeed reached an agreement. The veteran outfielder will be guaranteed a $3MM base salary for time spent in the majors and can earn an additional $1.5MM in performance bonuses. Pham would be able to request his release if he’s not called to the majors by April 25, tweets Rosenthal. There’s a $500K assignment bonus if Pham gets traded, per Rosenthal.
April 14: The White Sox and Tommy Pham are close to an agreement on a minor league deal, The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reports. The non-guaranteed nature of the contract is something of a technicality due to the fact that Pham is out of minor league options. Since Pham will need some time to properly ramp up to the regular season, starting him in the minors gives the White Sox more flexibility to call him up whenever he is ready.
The Padres, Pirates, and Diamondbacks were all linked to Pham at various points during the offseason, and 10 teams reportedly checked in on the veteran outfielder early in November. The White Sox were also known to be interested in Pham’s services, as USA Today’s Bob Nightengale first noted just under a month ago. However, Opening Day came and went without Pham finding a new contract, and Rosenthal notes that Chicago might have been motivated to finally close a deal after losing Eloy Jimenez, Yoan Moncada, and Luis Robert Jr. to the injured list.
Assuming that a deal is finalized and Pham reaches the active roster as planned, the White Sox will be the eighth different team the outfielder has played for over what will be an 11th Major League season. While his production has been inconsistent over the last four of those seasons, Pham hit well just last year, batting .256/.328/.446 over 481 combined plate appearances with the Mets and Diamondbacks. He also ran hot-and-cold during Arizona’s playoff run, but Pham had huge performances for the D’Backs in the NLDS and in the World Series.
Pham turned 36 last month, and some off-the-field issues have perhaps contributed to his semi-journeyman status despite generally solid numbers over the years. That said, Pham was one of many veteran free agents who remained on the market for a long time, and ended up signing for much less than expected. This cold market impacted not just some of the bigger names available (Blake Snell, Cody Bellinger, Jordan Montgomery, etc.), but perhaps hit hardest for more mid-tier players like Pham.
As Brandon Belt described things in a recent interview, interested teams seemed to universally view him as a backup plan this winter, and it is fair to wonder if the same applied to Pham. If other teams found other outfielders, or (perhaps more importantly) outfielders willing to play for lesser salaries, it left fewer and fewer opportunities for Pham to land a suitor. Rosenthal notes that Pham was “waiting for an offer he felt was commensurate with his value,” so price seems to have been a factor.
It could be that Pham’s time in Chicago ends up being pretty short, since if he hits well, he’ll undoubtedly get a lot of attention from contenders at the trade deadline. The White Sox already look like sellers after a dreadful 2-13 start to the season, and moving a short-term veteran bat like Pham could be just one of many trades GM Chris Getz could make before the deadline is over.
Until then, Pham could just slide into a regular role as the right-handed hitting complement to Andrew Benintendi in left field, or with Gavin Sheets at DH. Chicago signed Robbie Grossman to a minors deal in late March and Grossman has already become essentially an everyday player in either corner outfield slot, so Pham could also eat into that playing time.
Oh sweet cheese no. Please no.
Guess he held out hoping against hope some sucker would give him a mlb deal like few other washed up vets got late. Seems nobody was desperate enough in the end. He, Cron and small handful of has beens still floating around the abyss.
Someone needs to bring back rich hill.
You mean, Dick Mountain!
At least they were there once, unlike us.
Agreed. Tired of all the hate about guys just trying to keep their careers going.
Me too. Keep playing until they kick you out. You know everyone here would, including those saying this, had they had the opportunity.
Wait until you get to be an old coot. You will have a distinctive change in attitude.
Apparently the teams hate him too. That is why he is being relegated to the worst team in MLB.
Oh, and weeks after the season already started and even that miserable team has had multiple injuries. No team that is even thinking about winning would touch him. What does that tell you about Strip Club Tommy?
@This one belongs to the Reds
I wouldn’t, and haven’t, but there’s no way I’m in any position to criticize someone who wants to keep playing despite declining skills.
How the he!! should I know what someone is supposed to do with their life in a case like this?
If baseball be the cake of sports,
Play on!
He’s not washed up. He had a good year in 2023.
Black pink: No, he’s not washed up, which makes me wonder how desperate he must have been to sign with the worst team in baseball.
Well it’s mid April and he’s unemployed. He’s pretty desperate. Not sure what there is to wonder about.
He’s searching for the Holy Grail, and this is just the latest revival of Phamalot.
@joelp/black He had a 1.5 WAR last season. In case you don’t know, that is below league average. Pham has only ever been a good player one year in his career and he is a toxic presence in every clubhouse he is in.
29 teams passed on signing him to a major league deal. Think about that. There is a reason.
What on earth is league average????? Where did you come up with that nonsense??????
1.5 WAR means he’s 1.5 wins above replacement level. That’s a guy that could help at least 25 teams in baseball right now.
You don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
Maybe he thinks he’ll get in the lineup, do well, and possibly traded to a contender? Not a fan of him, but I don’t begrudge anyone who wants to keep playing.
League average was 2.05 WAR last season. That you don’t know that but still think you should comment on it says all I need to know abut how little you know about MLB.
1.5 WAR means he is BELOW MLB AVERAGE.
When you get a clue, maybe you could start commenting again. Until then, stick to something you actually understand. Maybe checkers is more your speed. Or tiddlywinks.
One good year? He had a three year run of 6.2, 3.4 and 3.9 WAR from 2017-2019. Just completely unserious commenting here.
More importantly, he’s a clutch postseason performer. Career .313/.333/.513 postseason slash line and he hit .421/.429/.737 in the WS last year. Teams will take the still decent offensive production and slightly below average corner OF defense (rotating him in and out of the DH spot as the D-Backs did) and his temperamental nature for the postseason fire that comes with it. Definitely trade bait if he hits this summer at all.
What is it with these guys? Another mid-30s free agent outfielder clearly at the end of his string. Is there nobody down on the farm who is ready to fill the void in the Sox outfield? Benintendi hasn’t worked out, Fletcher has been poor at the plate and in the field. Does anybody think Grossman is the answer in right? Maybe Pham? C’mon! This is ridiculous. The Sox have precious little talent on the major league team and apparently very little down on the farm.
The White Sox are very thin in outfield talent.
js
“Guess he held out hoping against hope some sucker would give him a mlb deal like few other washed up vets got late. Seems nobody was desperate enough in the end. He, Cron and small handful of has beens still floating around the abyss.”
almost certain that these guys are better in their chosen field than you are at yours.
Even if not, you still come across as a total [donkey]
Pham is not a has been. He had a pretty good year last season.
Pham had a 1.5 WAR last season. That is not pretty good. Its below MLB average.
You are making things up. It’s not below average for outfielders it’s below average for STARTING outfielders those are 2 different things.
I for one am surprised he couldn’t find a major league deal. Coming off a 111 OPS+ with 16 HRs. He’s better than some outfielders currently on major league rosters.
The rebuild now begins in earnest!
Reinsdorf must be feeling the heat to do something, before he gets run out of town. Their team is truly in sad shape – and that’s putting it charitably.
The grim reaper will come for Jerry soon. You can’t escape death.
Three postseason dongers in the fall. ChiSox just need to make playoffs.
Have you seen the Sox play? They might be eliminated by the All Star Break
They may be out by the beginning of June at this pace.
I thought they were eliminated in spring training!
ST games doesn’t count
Way to kill the joke…
Yeah for Tommy
Second City strip clubs stand & cheer, Tommy’s back in town! Ahahaha!
He’ll be called up by the end of the week
Half week
Where can I place my bet?
@lilojbone
idk let me call ippei he definitely knows a guy that takes bets on any action
If desperation was a headline..
They need somebody, but not sure Pham is the cure for the sloppy play.
Maybe they think it wkll give them a Pham-ily atmosphere.
Pham can party in downtown Chicago. Plenty of spots for him to party away and drown out the horrendous season he’s going to be playing for with the White Sox. The best bet for him is to put up some decent numbers and get traded at the deadline to a contending team.
Minor league what
Plz don’t go to Southside, you’ll probably regret it
Why, because of crime rarte or the not so smart fans on White Sox? I remember some White Sovpx fans complaining when they lost made playoffs. They just a miserable bunch living in that city that’s crumbling
The organization is nonexistent and the fanbase is sad. This is why.
DDS
muted [unintelligent donkey]
This is why you don’t drink before noon, like Cleetus here.
You can’t spell and we’re suppose to take you serious?
Yes!!!!
This will turn the season around.
2nd worst organization in baseball Tommy….you should have held out another week.
and good odds he’ll be traded to a contender by the TDL if he’s playing well
He must be known as a complete a-hole. Way too good a hitter to not get a major league 26th man flyer from a good team.
Bingo. The Mets traded him away when he was hitting well.
@BaseballisLife: the Mets traded him away because they were playing well below expectations and made a business move to sell whatever they could to get prospects and slightly lower payroll. It had nothing to do with Pham’s personality, and many on the Mets viewed him as a great teammate.
The Mets traded him and the $2 million he was owed because he had an incident with a fan and with 2 different teammates in a 2 week period. One of which was caught on the Mets game broadcast in the 1st inning of a loss to the Padres in San Diego. He was pulled from that game because of it.
The Mets got a 17 year old who was not in Arizona’s top 30 prospects and still has not played outside the DR.
It has everything to do with his toxic clubhouse and on field presence and nothing to do with money. $2 million is nothing to Cohen. He paid 20 times more than that to get rid of Scherzer and get a great prospect for Verlander.
As a Cardinal fan I can tell you he’s mad at the way the Cardinals treated him. And he’s 100% right to be mad. He was stuck in the minors when lesser players were given playing time ahead of him. He has a chip on his shoulder from this he has said so publicly.
The Cardinals have always been a character type of organization and they saw he wasn’t mature enough to be brought up and it’s no secret they spent a lot of time trying to help him grow up and they got what they could out of him and ultimately for him, which wasn’t much, The guy has issues.
It has nothing to do with maturity. He was passed over for lesser players because of prospect status or contract. Same thing happened to other outfielders. The Cardinals have issues.
Baseball Heaven has issues? Zoinks!
Tommy carries a plethora of chips
It cannot possibly be coincidence that he’s on his eight team in eleven seasons. Some teams will keep players around when they produce even if they’re jerks yet that never seems to happen with Pham. I wonder why?
First the Cards traded him to the Rays who then traded him to San Diego….I remember that the Rays players were upset about the trade and stated so in the media. He was not traded by the Padres as he was a free agent and signed with the Reds. He was traded to the Red Sox at the trade deadline. He became a free agent and signed with the Mets. He started off slow because he got sporadic playing time, and was traded to the D-Backs…..He got plenty of playing time and had a great season. He was one of the reasons Arizona went to the WS. Tommy plays the game like its meant to be played to do whatever it takes to win. Whatever he does in his spare time is his business.
“Whatever he does in his spare time is his business.”
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Being a difficult teammate isnt a hobby. Its a full-time thing.
Buck Showalter said this about him “He’s blatantly honest. Some people have trouble with that. If you can’t handle the truth, you can’t handle him.”
This explains the team hopping far better than he’s just unlucky.
Better way to say it id he is an a-hole. Honest people don’t break rules that puts their teammates health at risk.
So you must be a a-hole too because you speaking your mind honestly here, How rich you are your comments about someone you only met through a TV screen.
Only an a-hole would just come out and call someone an “a-hole” when they havent corresponded once. Have a nice life.
I have met him. Multiple times. Heard him berate both teammates and fans personally.
I may be an a-hole, but definitely not for calling out Pham for something that anyone that has interacted with him would tell you.
There is a reason he is never brought back by former teams and was traded away by the Mets while hitting well for basically nothing.
It looks like that. You can do whatever you want, until the talent starts to fade. I’ve worked with people like that. Some were so nice that things would have to blow up before you got rid of them. But some others, they were going to be gone on the first slip-up.
I used to be the Tommy Pham of many jobs. Now thankfully I own and run my own business.
Like I said Pham is a good player who wasn’t treated fairly. Just like Tyler ONeill and to a lesser extent Arozarena and Garcia. The Cardinals are a conservative bunch who sometimes choose players based on attitude over performance. And the team has suffered for it.
Joel, Tommy Pham has burned bridges every where he has been while only being above average one season in his career. Teams want players that are a positive influence back. No one ever signs Pham again.
You don’t get to consistently be a cancer in the clubhouse unless you also are consistently a superstar. Pham has never done the 2nd part while consistently doing the 1st part.
The White Sox are a perfect fit for Pham. He can take his cancerous attitude and mediocre level of play and not be any different than the rest of the guys.
Pham spent most of his career with the Cardinals. You have no idea what kind of influence on others he is none at all you just made that up.
I know what went on in St Louis. He wasn’t a cancer but he didn’t play politics. He wasn’t conservative aka a white guy or a black guy who acted white.
Pham might be the best player on the White Sox. And all it costed them was a minor league deal. The Cardinals, who are 7-9 and need outfield help could certainly use him but hey who cares about winning anymore. Not when you have that great clubhouse that Marmol is running……
Actually, I do and you obviously don’t.
Pham was toxic in St Louis and in Memphis before that. There are a multitude of reports of that including by someone I respect very much, Derek Goold.
Until 2013 he wasn’t even a good minor league player. When did he get called up? No one blocked him except his own play and attitude.
He cannot play CF and the Cardinals have no need other than CF. He would not start over Donovan or Walker. He would be a 4th OF.
So stop with the race garbage. In fact, stop commenting period because all of it on here has been argumentative garbage based on nothing except apparently the voices in your head. Unless you can speak both factually and non-combatively, find another outlet. This is obviously not healthy for you.
Joel P, Pham played 4 seasons in St Louis and 5 years elsewhere.
“blackguy who acted white”
What does that mean?
“ He wasn’t conservative aka a white guy or a black guy who acted white.”
Weird definition of ‘conservative.’
So are you saying nonwhite guys and black guys acting black and other races are considered “not conservative “????
It isn’t my definition it’s the organizations. If you are from California you might not understand this. I am from Missouri but now live in Colorado it’s very different.
Just the fact that this is his eighth team in eleven years and that he came up with the Cardinals, who like to keep good young hitters and they gave him away for almost nothing, tells you everything you need to know about him as a person. He is a clubhouse cancer that only cares about himself and getting paid…period. Teams know that the juice isn’t worth the squeeze much less the money. The White Sox are going nowhere this season so the question I have is why make a bad season worse?
They deserve each other…both losers
He’s getting paid less than he should because the Cardinals kept him down in the minors and instead promoted less talented players. Piscotty was garbage but not only was he promoted ahead of Pham he was handed a ridiculously stupid contract extension. Pham was and is ticked about that and rightfully so.
@Blackpink/Joel He wasn’t called up by STL as his first full season he AA he tore one labrum and missed most of that season. The next year he torn labrum in other shoulder missing most of that season.
Hard to get called up when recovering from major surgeries. This seems a par for the course comment from you though…
No that’s not true it’s because he’s black according to Blackpink and his racist agenda
Pham is just as of Vietnamese heritage as he is black
Pham had a wonderful post season and no one was wanted him so strange
Waiting to sign this late into things should tell you all you need to know about him as a person. Teams don’t ignore good guys who produce on the field. His numbers aren’t the worst ones out there yet the season is halfway through its first month before he signed a contract. Doubt that was because he wanted to skip Spring Training.
I thought the Diamondbacks loved him as a player and teammate
I wouldn’t have minded if the Orioles had signed him, but he couldn’t fit onto the team with a shoehorn
But to just get minor league deal is ridiculous
The Diamondbacks didn’t even discuss a return with him. What does that tell you about what they thought about him?
Plus the other free agents too. Your statement holds no logic.
Awesome, but he is 36 years old and a cancer in club house
The White Sox are a cancer.
Says one who never been in a clubhouse
This is a completely different team than last year. The atmosphere in the clubhouse is exciting! This team is fun! That’s how ya do it on the Southside.
The Campfire Milkshake is rad.
The milkshake is awesome, but its $15. The team is horrendous. Nothing about losing is fun.
Are the milkshakes rad?
“Nothing about losing is fun.”
You need to inform Schriffen then, cause he doesn’t get it. But that’s the way they do it on the Sothside!!
Nobody’s signed him to this point, but sure, he will have trade value at the deadline because everyone will want him then. Sure.
Only problem I see with signing Pham is the guy I’d like him to replace is Benintendi. Grossman and Pillar are nothing special but at least they get on base more than anybody else in that lineup.
They will probably optioned Pillar to AAA. Beni is stuck with his untradeable contract. Grossman is actually worth keeping b/c of their offense is dead last(runs scored).
Pillar doesn’t have any options. He’d have to accept an assignment after going through waivers which seems unlikely.
I kind of hope Pillar and Grossman stay on the roster all year. Not because I think they are amazing but because if both accrue one more year of service time they’ll hit 10 years and a full MLB pension. Some good should come out of this season.
White Sox need offense badly. Fletcher, Grossman, Sheets and hopefully Pham will turn this season around. I feel bad for White Sox fans myself included. Jerry will sell/die sooner rather than later. New ownership that’s committed to winning can save the franchise. Look what Rocky Wirtz did to the Blackhawks.
You had me all the way through your first sentence.
Then:
“Fletcher, Grossman, Sheets and hopefully Pham will turn this season around.”
Your logic and false hopes just fell into the abyss called Pale Hose Land.
Sox fans are all going through their stages of grief at different speeds. Some of us are in bargaining, some of us in denial, some of us have reached acceptance.
I’m already at seeing how cheap scout seats get on the secondary market and can they get to the point where it’s worth it to buy just for the dinner.
Lol. Those 3 players I mentioned minus Pham haven’t looked awful. The biggest surprise is Sheets and Grossman.
Hey guys–want to go to the White Sox game tonight?
–Why should we?
Well… a few of them haven’t actually looked awful.
–Thanks, it’s bingo night, we just remembered.
“Free Sox Tickets? Uuhhh, nah. I can be sad and disappointed at home and the hot dogs are cheaper.”
Jerry not going anywhere, too bad for you fools
I’m not surprised by Sheets. I’ve always wanted to see what he can do with 600 ABs.
He is 88. Eventually he will go away. Other than Michael who works with the Bulls, his kids have shown no interest in either the White Sox nor Bulls.
Jerry himself said that when he dies the team should be sold. espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/9299151/jerry-reinsdorf-su…
Even if he can live as long as Peter Angelos did, the time when the team will bev sold is not very far in the future.
They should make an effort to give Sheets the ABs. Eloy should receive frequent rest days. Vaughn (The Opossum) hasn’t done anything to say, “This is my job”. And RF or LF are certainly options. Benintendi’s defense isn’t much better than Sheets at this point.
Never underestimate a desperate person. How desperate? Desperate enough to sign with the White Sox. That franchise is so bereft of talent Tommy might end up being the White Sox All-star rep.
Makes you wonder if his attitude kept him from being signed
I’ll take statements that result in Duh for $500 Alex
The Cardinals, Phams former team, traded Tyler ONeill because of his attitude. And last time i checked ONeill is leading all of baseball in home runs.
This hate for Pham is misplaced. Lot of conservative white guys spitting it.
Either trolling or a huge white guilt liberal.
Were the same white guys spitting it for Tyler O’Niell? Get a grip. You’re losing it.
Because he was in shape? What are you babbling about now. Oh my word.
Humbling contract.
What do Tim Anderson, Tommy Pham and Jazz Chisholm all have in common?
They all receive a lot of hate from trade rumor posters.
Now what else do they all have in common?
Agreed. No white guys get hate here. R&cist posters
They are all either washed up, like to punch people for no good reason, or are quite overrated?
Pham would certainly be a starter in the Cardinals 2024 outfield. With him and ONeill the outfield would be terrific. Instead we got Burleson and Walker.
All 3 are Vietnamese? Oh wait, only one of them is…
Anderson/Pham start fights with other players and are just in general idiots.
Jazz is overrated, thinks he is better than he actually is, and has an attitude problem.
Non team attitudes is what these guys all have in common, which is why some fans dislike them. All the white conservate stuff is laughable.
Pham was a good teammate in St Louis.
Attitude is a matter of perspective. How many owners in baseball are anything but white? How many posters here are anything but white?
Yours truly is not white.
Just because he was a good teammate in one team doesn’t mean he was a good teammate everywhere.
Take for instance the time he attacked Joc over a Fantasy Football League. Seems immature and worthy of posters here disliking him. Actions have consequences.
He’s a bad teammate because of the Joc Pederson thing? Lol sure.
You are full of it.
Attitude is a matter of perspective.
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1-He got into a fight outside a strip club.
2-He started a fight with Pederson over FB fantasy pool.
3-He’s been on 7 teams in 6 years.
It’s possible that he is disliked. And if he is, it is possible it is his fault.
A lot of things are possible. But saying he’s a clubhouse cancer or a bad guy is made up nonsense.
ONeill was called a clubhouse cancer by some people. You are a Red Sox fan. You think he is?
On O’Neill, I don’t recall anyone saying anything bad about him. He seems fine to me, but I am not part of the RS clubhouse.
I’m also not part of the Cards, but his past actions, and his trading history “suggests” otherwise.
Why the heck do you think you got him for some nobody reliever? Marmol called him out publicly on the 5th day of the season last year. It wasn’t a good look.
They suck? Nope. Chisolm is decent. They have a bad attitude and are toxic in the clubhouse? Wait, only Pham and Anderson are toxic.
I give up. What?
My motivation for commenting is I am a Cardinal fan who knows what happened with Pham and has seen many many players, specifically outfielders, treated unfairly by the organization.
What is your motivation for commenting here folks? I don’t get it. Did Pham not sign a ball for your kid?
How do you go from postseason hero to unemployed and Scott Boras isn’t even your agent?
I don’t know Pham, I don’t know if he’s unlikable or not. However I respect the fact that the dude wants to keep playing and signed a minor league deal to play for what is now a minor league team. You are a long time retired. If it were me, you’d have to drag my rotting carcass off the diamond before I retired. You’ve got 40+ years to sit on your arse, might as well play for as long as you can find a deal.
Yaaaa respect wants more money yaaaa such respect . Typical jock sniffing generic comment acting like it’s brave to want to try and make more money playing baseball
I think the slow off season is probably due to teams being willing to go with young talent over expensive proven talent. The loss of local TV income hurt as well, too.
Mid market vets will need to really sit down and look at what’s out there before declining options next year. Those big multi year deals may be a thing of the past except for the very best.
Proven talent GTFO no reason to have Pham blocking any development like a said there’s a reason no contender was seeking him
What player in Sox minors are being blocked? Closest one is Montgomery & he’s not quite ready yet. Might change in 2 weeks but not right now
Not sure what the deal is with Tommy, I thought he was serviceable when he played for the RSox, was surprised he was unemployed.
U donr pay attention if u can’t figure it out
“Pham is out of minor league options“. I’m sorry, this made me laugh at this point in his career.
Locker room cancer
Pham immediately has a higher projected wRC+ than any healthy hitter on the team (at least per the BatX). He’s at 105 and Andrew Vaughan is at 104.
They needed one more for the fantasy football league.
There’s a reason why a contender didn’t offer him anything Pham stinks one of the most overrated player
I like this for the WS. At this point, I can’t believe he can be a negative influence in the clubhouse. And he is good enough to both improve them, and to land them a lottery ticket at the TDL.
Someone going in and smacking people around a little can’t really hurt in that situation.
Exactly my thoughts. If you’re the O’s, Braves or Dodgers, you want the chemistry intact. The WS aren’t getting any worse no matter what happens.
Even for the Pale Hosers, it’s hard not to improve from 2-13.
I see a leap to 5-20 coming soon.
I know Chicago is the Second City and can support 2 teams but I wonder if they would ever consider moving when expansion finally happens in 3 or 4 years maybe.
Probably too much history in Chicago. Maybe better chance with a new owner.Chance of happening 10%
Consider it? They are going to threaten it like crazy to try to get that new ballpark. They already talked with officials from Nashville at the winter meetings.
Pretty pragmatic plan as I see it.
Get some playing time and at bats, stay prepared and at least decent results and he has a good chance to play for a contender in the second half of the season.
It’s early in the season but the Pale Sox already have a morale problem as well as talent and injury problem. They’ve put themselves in a hole but many players have an opportunity to NOT get discouraged and show off what they can do and some team will want them.
Plus the $s not bad and you get to do some traveling. and play in some cool stadiums.
Teambuilding, leadership and other future opportunities.
Think Positive !!!
Play like Shoeless Joe!
For the Love/FUN of the Game!.
Baseball is a game played by men but you STILL have to have a lot of little boy in You! >>>Enthusiasm!
Callooh! Callay! Too Much? 🙂
Not sure I buy the whole will be traded to a contender. Why didn’t the contenders signed him now?
Because they want to see if he has anything left in the tank without wasting a roster spot for the first few months of the year. Contenders can’t afford the risk, teams like the White Sox can.
That’s a valid point, the problem is he won’t net any real value in return.
Thankful he’s not going to SD. I said it before, and I’ll say it again, I’ll take take Profar ANY DAY over Pham.
Its not an either or situation. Who is the Padres 4th outfielder? I sure as heck don’t know.
Watch the games. Then you’ll know.
Yeah, you obviously don’t know that the “nobody” in center field is having a fantastic year offensively and defensively. So is Profar in left, so how you think that Pham/Profar was not either/or situation is not accurate either since LF is where he was being considered.
Why comment on a team you admittedly know nothing about? You really have nothing else to do?
I said the Padres could use him as a 4th outfielder. And then you got weirdly defensive.
The Padres couldn’t make the playoffs with Soto, Snell and Hader. Good luck in 2024.
Other people above commented on how Pham was a cancer in the clubhouse. That seemed to be the case when he played in SD also. So going back to my initial comment- I’m thankful Pham is not is SD and Profar is.
I am a Cardinals fan. Unlike most of those people commenting I actually know what went on with Pham and what Pham is about. Perhaps you should take your own advice and not comment on a player and team you know nothing about.
Why did Pham seem to be a cancer in the clubhouse in San Diego? Be specific…..
His offense was terrible. He didn’t get along with the team, the fan base. He had incidents in the community.
How did he not get along with the team or fanbase? What incidents in the community? Donating his time and money to charity?
You are clueless.
Ok I’m done. No sense in conversing with a fool. Oh, and the Cardinals are sub 500… so there’s that.
Yep the Cardinals are 500 while another “clubhouse cancer” Tyler ONeill is leading baseball in home runs.
Unlike you I am not a blind homer.
Blackpink in the area
Last time I checked their center fielder is a nobody and they didn’t have a 4th outfielder. Feel free to correct me.
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I’m going to have to correct you on that one. Their CF is jackson Merrill and has been doing a great job, even though he is only 20++.
Probably the favorite for the ROY.
Blackpink in the area
Fantastic year? It’s been 18 games junior calm down.
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FWIW, that SSS cuts both ways. You called him a “nobody” based on 18 games, and no soup said he was having a fantastic 18 games, which is true.
If the 18 games is too short to call him fantastic (which is fair), then it is obviously too short to call him a “nobody”.
I forgot they made Merrill the center fielder I thought it was thar Ozacar guy or whatever his name is.
Merrill is playing well. If he keeps it up then so be it. I believe he’s 20 years old and skipped AAA. The Cardinals did this with Walker and it hasn’t worked out. If it does with Merrill then great.
Just to educate you…the Padres outfield is Jurickson Profar-LF, Jackson Merrill-CF…remember his name because he is already way better than Pham and could very well be the ROY and some guy named Fernando Tatis Jr-RF and the forth outfielder is Jose Azocar that can play all three OF positions
The Padres just signed Donovan Solano to a minor league contract and he has played all of the infield positions and has played OF in a pinch and he has a much better reputation than FlimFlam Pham will ever have. Solano signs with a team that has a better than 50-50 chance of making the playoffs and is more versatile than Pham who signed with a team that will be watching the playoffs on TV
Before you come in here and pop off at least try to understand what you are actually talking about….if you’re going to talk loud at least make sense because all you have done to date is show your ignorance.
I forgot they made Merrill the center fielder ….The Cardinals did this with Walker and it hasn’t worked out.
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Fair enough on Merrill. You know, there are a more than a few posters in here that, had they made the same mistake, would never admit it, and continue to swear Merrill was a “nobody”/
IRT Walker, I tried to warn Cards fans last year not to expect too much. He has talent, but he has a lot of Ks in his swing, without having a good glove. Reminds me of Adell a little. IMO, they rushed him in a lost season.
Yeah I thought it was Ozacar in center and who knows as their 4th outfielder. With Merrill they are doing fine for now but I don’t believe in skipping AAA unless it’s an extreme circumstance.
Walker’s defense last year was absolutely terrible. The bat is good but I think he spent the offsesson practing defense and not in the cage. Long term Walker I think is a solid player but he’s not as of today. And the Cardinals ran ONeill out of town and moved Nootbaar to left field to accommodate him.
Joel P, when has Profar ever been bad as a Padre?
He seems to love playing there, his teammates love him, and has been an above average hitter as a Padre with a 105 OPS+ and 5.0 WAR in 377 games. He is playing extremely well so far b this season as a Padre.
So what do you base your erroneous assessment on?
Joel P, The Padres closer in 2024 has a 1.08 ERA and 5 saves, 3 of which were 4-5 outs. How is Hader doing?
Apparently you don’t know what went on because Derek Goold wrote about how Pham was a disruptive influence in the clubhouse.
What time and money to charity? The only thing I can find is 1 appearance on Zoom in 2021 for NKCF. NKC is the degenerative eye disease he suffers from. Other than that, can you show us even one other example?
Azocar is hitting .364.
Do you ever deal in facts.
They signed Solano to a minor league deal and is an INFIELDER. Do you even pay any attention to baseball?
And the Cardinals ran ONeill out of town and moved Nootbaar to left field to accommodate him.
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As I said last year, the Cards have/had too many “okay” players. Like maybe 11-12 guys that one could make an argument that they could start. They should’ve traded Goldie & Arenado, not so much because the other 10 were better, but because the $61M could be spent elsewhere.
The Cards could’ve picked up a significant portion of their salaries and come up with some decent prospects. But as Chad & Jeremy would say, that was yesterday and yesterday’s gone.
Arenado is still tradeable I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to the Dodgers at the deadline. Should have traded him last year. Goldschmidt is a free agent after this year. He wasn’t going to bring much back in a trade and still won’t. Ttading ONeill for pennies on the dollar was a mistake. The Cardinals are similar to the Red Sox they aren’t good enough to compete but don’t want to admit it.
Joel, If you don’t know, why are you commenting on it. Just keep quiet about things you are clueless about.
And off to mute you go. Keep talking. I won’t be listening.
If 10 teams were looking at him, why would he come here. I am a WS fan, and I would not play for this owner, GM or team. LOL Jerry is the worst owner of any sports franchise. He got luck with MJ and Ozzie\2005.
This is the worst baseball team, GM, Owner, etc. we have had. Chris Getz is silent as he great defense commits error after error, cannot hit and the pitching will burn out. Yep, looking at over 100 loses again and no top 10 draft picks either. In fact, most of our picks are dudes anyway. SMH. SOS
Strip club slasher strikes Chicago!!! Hailed as a hero by local politicians and major league baseball…
This guy is solid. Descent numbers with playoff experience.
Anyone else notice that he still hasn’t signed?
pham hit 16 hrs, with 22 sbs, and 27 doubles last yr
also hit .421 in the world series
and still only got a minor lg deal, a month into the season
The problem isn’t his ability on the field, it’s his personality off it that scares teams away
Helped dbacks secure a pennant so obviously has no effect on the teams ability to win
Goody. Who wouldn’t like someone capable of bit slapping Joc
“There’s a $500k assignment bonus when he gets traded”
Fixed it for you
Let me get this straight. Tommy Pham burns more bridges than Aarson Judge.
People talking smack on Tommy Pham. Dude is worth 1.8WAR per season on average and had good to great seasons from age 28 to 31. He’s worth about 4th OF on most MLB rosters and could crack the top 3 on plenty averaging 15HR, 25 2B, 15SB and 105OPS+. Not amazing numbers, but just above replacement and worth of that 4th OF spot.
Also, screams of trade bait mid season.
All his supporters want to talk about his 2023. They fail to mention the 3 seasons before that.
“I’m proud of myself”
A $3M base is good stabbin’ money, but Chicagoans play with guns. Hotheads beware!