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Mets Notes: Trades, Wright

By charliewilmoth | May 25, 2015 at 3:40pm CDT

The Mets are currently third-to-last in the NL in runs scored, and they’re without David Wright, Travis d’Arnaud and Dilson Herrera, who are all on the DL. Even with a win today, they’ve lost five games out of their last seven, slipping behind the Nationals in the NL East. GM Sandy Alderson says the team is interested in acquiring more offensive help, ESPN New York’s Adam Rubin tweets. As with several GMs who’ve fielded questions about the trade market so far this season, Alderson says it’s probably too early in the year to strike significant deals. Here are more quick notes on the Mets.

  • Wright, who was recently diagnosed with spinal stenosis, is going to California to see a doctor, Mike Puma of the New York Post tweets. The Mets should know more about his condition in the coming days. The extent of his issue is currently unclear, although the Mets do not seem overly concerned, as MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo notes. “The doctors aren’t that worried about it,” says assistant GM John Ricco. “It’s just something that seems to be taking longer than we initially thought. The way it was progressing, they thought it would be gone by now.”
  • It’s unclear how the condition will affect Wright, but if it does become a long-term problem, Wright’s contract could become another costly headache for the Mets, Joel Sherman of the Post writes. If Wright’s $138MM deal goes south, the Mets could be less inclined to trade for Troy Tulowitzki’s big contract, sign Ian Desmond on the free-agent market next winter, or ink Matt Harvey long-term. The Mets have already had expensive deals for Johan Santana and Jason Bay go terribly in recent years. Wright, meanwhile, is already 32 and coming off a 2014 season in which he hit just .269/.324/.374.
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  1. Tko11

    10 years ago

    Why would they want Ian Desmond? His career OBP is .316. Yes he has some pop for a SS but he’s not a fit for the Mets. They need to find a high OBP to put at the leadoff spot and then another middle of the lineup bat. The Granderson signing was a huge mistake.

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    • Pei Kang

      10 years ago

      well, right now they’re fielding Wilmer Flores and Ruben Tejada at shortstop. Flores’ offense is okay, but his fielding isn’t even average right now and might not ever be. Tejada is..Tejada.

      I agree, it wouldn’t be prudent for the Mets to acquire Desmond OR Tulowitzky, but you know how it is with impatience.

      Reply
      • IndianaBob

        10 years ago

        Flores has a UZR/150 of 6.9 this year. His range makes him better than average.

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        • Pei Kang

          10 years ago

          UZR is a flawed stat, though. Even as my “eye-test” goes, he seems okay for short, but not everyday. Let’s put it this way, he’s not Rey Ordonez there. Of course, I don’t mind his sub-par ish defense as long as he hits.

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          • paqza

            10 years ago

            He’s not Rey Ordoñez but he’s a much more useful baseball player since Rey couldn’t hit his way out of a paper bag. Elite defense but epic futility with the bat.

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            • Pei Kang

              10 years ago

              granted, but I’d still rather have Ordonez than Tejada any day of the week, heh. I prefer the hitting, of course, especially considering how putrid the Mets offense is.

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              • paqza

                10 years ago

                I’d rather have Tejada. Better hitter and half-decent human being.

                Reply
                • Pei Kang

                  10 years ago

                  better hitter? I can’t argue the second half of your statement, but Tejada is not a better hitter than Rey. Comparable yes.

                  Reply
                  • paqza

                    10 years ago

                    Ruben Tejada is unquestionably a better hitter than Rey Ordoñez was.

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        • DejaVu

          10 years ago

          Flores will be moved away from SS…his future is at another position.

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        • tesseract

          10 years ago

          People like to scream “Mets need a SS!”. But if you compare Flores to the rest of the league he has been slightly above average, has made some costly errors (which is what people seem to remember) but his range has made up for it and actually ranks pretty decently. The guy can hit for power and I believe he will become a more disciplined hitter in the future. Just let him play. It’s not like he has been costing the team runs, and the Mets do not have to give anything up to keep him

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          • tesseract

            10 years ago

            I just looked at his BABIP and it’s the same as his batting average. Which suggest he will likely have a higher batting average as the season goes on. I’ll rather keep him

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      • rct 2

        10 years ago

        I’m not too worried about Flores. He’s on pace for 20+ HR and 2-2.5 WAR and he’s more or less a 23 year old rookie. I like that they’re giving him a chance and they have much bigger problems (Cuddyer, Grandy, injuries in general).

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        • Pei Kang

          10 years ago

          that, I can agree with. I don’t think Flores is an issue anyway, he’s just an easy scapegoat.

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      • paqza

        10 years ago

        Desmond makes no sense for the Mets. I’d go with Flores and than Cecc instead of wasting so much money on a guy cratering before our eyes.

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        • Pei Kang

          10 years ago

          true. Especially when Desmond is a free agent real soon, if they wanted him, they can just sign him.

          Reply
    • Out of place Met fan

      10 years ago

      Granderson has so far produced to the value of the contract. Not really sure what Met fan expectations of Granderson , he is what he is a .235 hitter with some pop.

      Reply
      • Pei Kang

        10 years ago

        I think because of his Jason Bay-ish contract, fans thought he was a clean up hitter? I dunno.

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        • Out of place Met fan

          10 years ago

          The Mets FO didn’t help that misperception touting him as such. He is playing the role that the team is asking, and if he hit 6th or 7th I think you would see a more aggressive approach sacrificing OBP for SLG with similar total OPS

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          • Pei Kang

            10 years ago

            yes, that is true, Curtis transformed himself to a lead off hitter when they asked him to. I have no idea what most fans expected though. I certainly didn’t expect him to be what he was with the Yankees.

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      • paqza

        10 years ago

        As long as he’s putting up an OBP in that .340-.350 range, he’s a solid leadoff option. Unlike most lefties, he also has reverse splits which means he can be used to lead off everyday. He’s not what we the team was expecting at all but he’s producing well enough for it to be considered an okay contract at this point. At this point, he’s basically Dexter Fowler with worse defense and a bit less power.

        Reply
    • tesseract

      10 years ago

      You do realize that SS offensive production is non-existent? Tell me where the Mets will find this magical high OBP SS that can leadoff and play solid defense?

      Reply
      • paqza

        10 years ago

        They’ve got a high contact SS with some pop, solid defense, and prospect pedigree (first rounder) raking at AA. If the team is aggressive, they’ll have him skip over Vegas, since a guy with a ~140 wRC+ and elite K-rates (less than 9%) is worth a look.

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        • tesseract

          10 years ago

          Who is that?

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          • paqza

            10 years ago

            Gavin Cecchini.

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            • tesseract

              10 years ago

              I’ll take Flores over him

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              • paqza

                10 years ago

                Flores also plays 2B/3B. So we can have both, and get the corresponding improvements in defense at 2 positions.

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      • Tko11

        10 years ago

        It doesn’t matter where they would find that. But there’s no point in paying Desmond big money for those numbers.

        Reply
  2. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    10 years ago

    Well, the O’s could trade JJ Hardy for Harvey…
    Okay seriously, the Mets should do something, but their current team might hold together enough for a Wild Card.
    Their OF is still pretty good. Their pitching is good. Their bullpen is better than I gave them credit for during the beginning of the season.
    They still have a winning record.
    They should be good enough to hang with the Nats. At least that is how I feel about it.
    Now if they match up well with the Rockies and are able to cut a nice deal for Tulo, then they should do it, if they can’t just be patient.

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    • Brixton G.

      10 years ago

      Maybe the Mets can buylow on someone like Jimmy Rollins or Juan Uribe. Corey Seager/Olivera is gonna have to play somewhere.

      Reply
    • Vandals Took The Handles

      10 years ago

      Very much doubt any team in the NLE hangs with the Nats this year.

      Reply
      • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

        10 years ago

        Oh, I don’t know.
        Strasburg doesn’t seem to be the same.
        Werth is hurt again.
        Their bullpen isn’t the best.
        There might be some resentment to Scherzer’s contract.
        Harper has been red hot, but that might not last forever.
        Mets are a good team and they seem to play well together.
        That counts for something in my book.
        So, we’ll see.

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        • Vandals Took The Handles

          10 years ago

          There are 12-3 recently and 17-10 if you want to go back a little more. The first figure was without Span and others, the next figure is with Span back but with Werth and Rendon out. The Nationals are easily the class of the NL. Their only problems have been how to play well in cold April, and how to get over the hump in the playoffs.

          Reply
        • Brixton G.

          10 years ago

          Mets are 6-1 against the Philadelphia Phillies.
          19-20 against everyone else.

          Reply
        • paqza

          10 years ago

          The Mets are good. But not even their biggest supporter would put them up favorably against the Natinals.

          Reply
        • DejaVu

          10 years ago

          The Mets have gone 12-18 since starting out 13-3 – with numerous injuries. With Their “cornerstone” possibly out for an extended time the chances of the Mets hanging with Washington is extremely low. The Wilpons rarely make significant moves, and I wouldn’t count on one this season.

          Reply
  3. Brixton G.

    10 years ago

    Regardless of how the Granderson/Bay/Santana/Wright deals panned out, that shouldn’t effect how you approach a Harvey extension. The guy is the new face of the franchise and arguably the 2nd best pitcher in the game after Kershaw.
    You aren’t signing Harvey, you’re investing in him. You’ll make the money back through marketing and merchandise sales. Extend him at all costs when he gets close to FA.

    Reply
    • Vandals Took The Handles

      10 years ago

      What you wrote was the Mets thinking when they gave those 4 players long-term contracts.

      Reply
      • rct 2

        10 years ago

        True, but Harvey is younger than all of them with a higher ceiling/longer prime.

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        • paqza

          10 years ago

          Ceiling sure. We can’t predict health, though.

          Reply
    • scann

      10 years ago

      After Kershaw it’s only Felix…..or vice versa…..

      Reply
      • Brixton G.

        10 years ago

        I said arguably, but yeah. Harvey’s a top 5 pitcher in the game.

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        • DejaVu

          10 years ago

          Yes, now. 5 years from now who knows. Justin Verlander anyone?

          Reply
    • willi

      10 years ago

      Most Players ,when they get close Big money will go to the Market if nothing other than to run it up Price , Harvey’s agent is no different, Mets must offer about 8 years 28,000,000 after 2016 season. If not lose him to Big Money team come free Agency

      Reply
      • Brixton G.

        10 years ago

        You don’t give 8 years to pitchers. You give 7 years to the elite, but never give 8.

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        • willi

          10 years ago

          Somebody will, that’s how desperate the General Managers are these days, besides all these guy have massive Private Insurance polices to cover these Players.

          Reply
        • DejaVu

          10 years ago

          7 year deals never work out either.

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      • paqza

        10 years ago

        They Mets will try to extend him. If he refuses, I don’t see them giving him a market value free agent contract. That’s probably the right move. This F.O. doesn’t make moves based on emotions, as we’ve seen with Reyes (translated into Plawecki and Reynolds) and Dickey (Syndergaard, d’Arnaud, Becerra).

        Reply
  4. scann

    10 years ago

    The Met’s should send Harvey too Chicago for Rizzo & Russell or Baez…then have deGrom step into the Ace role…..

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    • Mike 84

      10 years ago

      Better throw in Bryant too

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      • scann

        10 years ago

        never heard of him…..

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    • theo in 2016

      10 years ago

      The cubs say no to rizzo straight up for harvey! Castro, baez, almora and vogelbach would be a package more close to what they would offer. 3 top 100 prospects and a slightly above average starting shortstop. But it wont happen

      Reply
      • Brixton G.

        10 years ago

        The Mets wouldn’t trade Matt Harvey for prospects, period. Hes way to valuable, not just on the mound, but to the fan base, to the PR, to the marketing department, to trade away within getting proven MLB talent back. You’d need 1 of Bryant or Rizzo to even start the discussion.

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        • CT Cubs Fan

          10 years ago

          Rizzo had a 5+ WAR season last year and is on pace for a 6 WAR season this year. Playing every day and being a clubhouse leader. Oh and he’s also only 25.

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          • Brixton G.

            10 years ago

            I’m just saying. Obviously whatever we say is just speculative, but in a fantasy world where Matt Harvey is available in a trade, he’d acquire proven, young, controllable MLB talent mixed with prospects. Rizzo or Bryant would be in the conversation, I would think.

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            • paqza

              10 years ago

              Russell would be the guy. The Mets have 1B/3B mostly covered. It would be deGrom or Matz going to Chicago, though, not Harvey.

              Reply
          • paqza

            10 years ago

            The Mets have a first baseman already. He’s not as good as Rizzo but he’s solid (3rd in the league in homers last year). The Mets need to upgrade elsewhere.

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            • DejaVu

              10 years ago

              The Mets need to upgrade the OF, 2B or SS. Or a combination thereof.

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              • paqza

                10 years ago

                Right. So Rizzo makes absolutely no sense – we agree.

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                • DejaVu

                  10 years ago

                  Yup. We agree. Absolutely.

                  Reply
        • paqza

          10 years ago

          Where would the Mets put Rizzo? They’ve got Duda already. And sure, Rizzo’s better than Duda but only by a bit. He’s not nearly “one Harvey” better than Duda.

          Reply
          • DejaVu

            10 years ago

            If the Mets got Rizzo (not happening), Duda would have to be involved in said trade. He can’t play anywhere else.

            Reply
            • paqza

              10 years ago

              So why would the Mets do that? Duda’s their best hitter.

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              • DejaVu

                10 years ago

                Exactly. They wouldn’t, hence my post.

                Reply
      • CitizenSnips

        10 years ago

        “The cubs say no to rizzo straight up for harvey!”

        You’re either overvaluing Rizzo or undervaluing Harvey. I say the Cubs do that in a heartbeat although it’d be fairly even for either team. The thing is the Mets don’t have as much of a need at 1B as much as an upgrade as Rizzo would be.

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        • theo in 2016

          10 years ago

          Rizzo is a perrenial mvp candidate. Harvey plays once a week

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          • CitizenSnips

            10 years ago

            Perennial? Relax man he only received MVP votes one year so far. Also comparing him as an everyday player to Harvey, a pitcher, isn’t fair. Harvey would easily slot in as either the ace or 1A next to Lester in the Cubs rotation.

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            • paqza

              10 years ago

              Actually, Lester isn’t even the best pitcher in that rotation. That’s Arrieta. And Harvey’s pretty clearly better than both of those guys.

              Reply
          • paqza

            10 years ago

            Duda plays 1B. Rizzo is better than Duda but he’s not a Harvey better than Duda.

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    • paqza

      10 years ago

      Rizzo forms the backbone of that lineup. The Mets also have Duda who isn’t quite as good but is still a solid first baseman. There’s no deal there.

      Reply
  5. hozie007

    10 years ago

    harvey has barely two years of service time and hasn’t completed a season healthy..I can’t see the Mets doing for him what the Angels did for Trout….too much risk.

    Reply
  6. willi

    10 years ago

    Check my Friend , C.C. Sabathia got 8 years with the Ninth being an Option year for the Yankees !

    Reply
  7. Dock_Elvis

    10 years ago

    Spinal stenosis doesn’t go away. Its narrowing of the spinal column and many times indicates ongoing disc issues. It’ll be ongoing with Wright. I live this issue everyday

    Reply

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