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NL Central Notes: Arrieta, Bryant, Walsh, Pirates

By Jeff Todd | May 12, 2016 at 8:30pm CDT

Jake Arrieta has drawn plenty of attention of late as he’s continued to generate phenomenal results for the Cubs. He’s maintained all along both that he hopes to remain in Chicago and that he won’t take a discount to do so, and it’s still not clear whether the club will be willing to offer what Arrieta considers fair market value. ESPN.com’s Buster Olney argues in an Insider piece that the Cubs are unlikely to go beyond the recent Stephen Strasburg extension, and won’t pursue a bidding war to bring back Arrieta when he reaches free agency after next season. Then, says Olney, he’ll have a chance to cash in, particularly since he’d enter an “incredibly weak market” for starting pitching. That’s a debatable assessment of the free agent class — among the potentially available arms are Yu Darvish, Alex Cobb, Johnny Cueto, Tyson Ross, Lance Lynn, and several others of interest — but there’s little doubt that Arrieta would be a major target if he can keep up anything approaching his recent performance level.

Here’s more from the NL Central:

  • Kris Bryant has kept on producing for the Cubs after a stellar rookie campaign, but as August Fagerstrom of Fangraphs explains, he’s dong it differently. Bryant has worked to flatten his swing plane as a way to cut down on his swings and misses, with very promising results. Though he’s more or less hitting at the same levels he did in 2015, Bryant’s managed to reduce his strikeout rate by one-third thus far. As Fagerstrom explains, the biggest impact of the adjustment may be that it raises Bryant’s floor as a hitter.
  • The Brewers made some roster moves today, with Scooter Gennett activated from the DL and fellow infielder Yadiel Rivera being optioned to Triple-A. As Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel notes (Twitter links), the decision shows the team’s commitment to struggling Rule 5 pick Colin Walsh. He has an unusual .098/.327/.122 slash line through 55 plate appearances, with 13 walks but just four hits. GM David Stearns would say only that “the evaluation process is ongoing” with respect to Walsh, who obviously will need to stay on the active roster all year if his control rights are to remain Milwaukee property.
  • In a reader mailbag, Stephen Nesbitt of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette explains the Super Two considerations facing the Pirates. Early to mid June remains the time to watch for exciting Triple-A starters Tyler Glasnow and Jameson Taillon, he writes. Interestingly, Nesbitt predicts that Taillon is likely to get the first call, explaining that he’s the “more seasoned” of the two even though he has been away from competitive baseball for some time due to injury.
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  1. chieftoto

    9 years ago

    Lol. He’s “dong” it differently.

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    • staypuft

      9 years ago

      hahahaaaaa

      Reply
  2. theo2016

    9 years ago

    How is it debateable, 3 of those guys haven’t pitched since tommy John. Cueto would have to opt out and Ross is hurt. Not looking too great.

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    • Vedder80

      9 years ago

      Because just the fact that those names are also in the class means it is not “incredibly weak.” If he continues at the ridiculous level he has been at, and his arm doesn’t fall off he will be sitting atop that free agent class, but it is far from an incredibly weak class. That is how it is debatable.

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      • theo2016

        9 years ago

        That’s assuming they all come back 100% with no setbacks. Also assuming Ross won’t need tj. Also assuming there will be no inning restrictions. That’s a lot of assuming.

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  3. Fred 3

    9 years ago

    Arrieta = steroids just like Papi

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    • mike156

      9 years ago

      That’s a bridge too far for me.

      Reply
    • aff10

      9 years ago

      Seriously, other than an improvement in his numbers and the ramblings of Stephen A. Smith, what evidence is there that Arrieta’s on steroids? Nolan Arenado surpassed his career high in home runs last year by 24, why not jump to conclusions based on him too if a jump in stats automatically equates to steroid use?

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      • aff10

        9 years ago

        Just to clarify, I don’t think Arenado’s on steroids, but I find it funny how people accuse Arrieta based on a breakout season when he’s not the only player who had a career year last year and is one of the best players in baseball this year

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        • Priggs89

          9 years ago

          If more people talked about Arenado’s breakout year, then I’m sure you’d be hearing the speculation. You hear the speculation on Arrieta much more because people are talking about Arrieta much more. It’s really that simple.

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        • aff10

          9 years ago

          Ik, that’s my point though. I don’t understand why this narrative about Arrieta’s steroid use came about in the first place. I’m not saying he’s definitely clean (I can’t possibly know), but the people saying he’s definitely not are a bit ridiculous IMO- no reason to suspect otherwise based simply on the fact that he realized his high expectations a little later in his career than most

          Reply
    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      Evidence, please?

      Reply
    • bsteady powers

      9 years ago

      That is a ridiculous statement. Anyone that know anything about Arrieta knows how hard he trains. You can tell he’s not on steroids. What a stupid, lazy assumption

      Reply
  4. Ray Ray

    9 years ago

    The Brewers are attempting the same strategy with Walsh that they tried with Wei-Chung Wang a couple of years ago. A guy that is obviously not ready for the majors, but the Brewers are stubbornly keeping him on the 25 man roster. Walsh shouldn’t hurt them as bad this year as Wang did when they were surprise division leaders that collapsed down the stretch due to basically being a man short in the bullpen all season. But, using Walsh instead of a more productive veteran could cost them at least 3-4 wins. Some people might say the difference between 65 and 70 wins is negligible, but I disagree. One shows a stagnating franchise that is praying for draft picks to pan out, the other is showing a franchise that might be on the upswing that you might be able to sell to a mid range free agent or two to take the next step forward in 2017. It is still possible to rebuild gradually without a complete tear down.

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    • aff10

      9 years ago

      I understand your point, but this is a different front office regime this time around, and I’m not sure the Brewers have a player that can upgrade the team over Walsh by all that much regardless. As bad as Walsh has been, Rivera’s .196/.213/.261 line is arguably worse

      Reply
    • theo2016

      9 years ago

      They aren’t trying to compete next year either what free agents you want… They are still paying Garza and braun next year. Not like they have payroll as is. You sign cheap veterans on rebound deals to flip. When you are ready you can make a splash. Chris carter was an example of them doing this, braun, lucroy, will smith are all guys who can bring some assets back and then you take this year and next to develop them. Maybe the Yankees take braun to free up payroll, lucroy fits a lot of teams, same with will smith as a high k lefty.

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      • southpaw2153

        9 years ago

        Yankees aren’t going any where near Braun. Not saying he isn’t a good player, but outfield is not a need for them. Also, they aren’t taking on his contract. They are looking to cut payroll, not increase it.

        As far as Walsh goes, I don’t care what a player’s obp is, hitting at an .098 clip is a total embarrassment. You need to be able to put the bat on the ball and gets hits to do any real damage. Brewers have nothing to lose by keeping him on the roster, but Walsh is an example of how ridiculous sabermetrics truly is. Trying to make players that have no business in mlb look like viable options.

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    • NeilAlien

      9 years ago

      65 wins is preferable to 70 wins. It’s not stagnation. It’s strategy.

      Reply
  5. thekid9

    9 years ago

    Dong is the thing

    Reply
  6. strike4

    9 years ago

    Arrieta is locked up THROUGH the 2017 season.. He’ll be at or around 32 then. A lot can happen between now and then.

    Reply
  7. steelerbravenation

    9 years ago

    Does anybody believe the Pirates would have some interest in Teheran ?
    I am thinking Meadows and either Reese or Diaz ?

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    • jimmyz

      9 years ago

      Seems evident to me the Pirates plan this season was to have a reasonably open spot in the rotation for Taillon, Glasnow or both to claim so I doubt they’re looking at Teheran or starters in general, definitely could use a bullpen arm or two though.

      More importantly, they wouldn’t do Teheran for Meadows straight up let alone with either top catching prospect added in. Meadows is currently the insurance policy for Cutch’s upcoming free agency. If the Bucs dealt for Teheran I’d imagine the return being more along the lines of Alen Hanson, any outfielder you want except Meadows and a lottery ticket rookie ball pitcher. Can’t imagine Teheran brings back a top 40 prospect, at least not by himself.

      Reply
  8. PhilsPhan221

    9 years ago

    Am I the only one who had a problem with the use of the phrase “property” with respect to Walsh? You could’ve said under contract instead Jeff.

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    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      Guess I was just looking for a little different way of phrasing things. I’m not exactly sure what it is you found offensive, but I guess I can see how it could be taken poorly depending upon one’s perspective, so I’ve tweaked it.

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