The Yankees’ aggressive approach to their rebuild contrasts with the path the Red Sox once took, Brian MacPherson of the Providence Journal writes. This summer, the Yankees have traded veterans and acquired prospects in return, even a number of prospects who aren’t nearly ready for the big leagues. The Red Sox were in a similar position two years ago but took a different approach, dealing Jon Lester for Yoenis Cespedes (who they then sent to the Tigers for Rick Porcello) and John Lackey for veterans Allen Craig and Joe Kelly. (They did deal Andrew Miller for a prospect, Eduardo Rodriguez.) Of course, the Red Sox had a stronger core of young talent than the Yankees did at the time of each team’s series of trades — the Sox’ recent resurgence is due in large part to young talents like Mookie Betts, Xander Bogaerts and Jackie Bradley who were already in their system. Here’s more from the AL East.
- Joe Girardi’s experience with the 2006 Marlins will be helpful in dealing with the Yankees’ increasingly young roster, writes Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Girardi won the NL Manager of the Year award in ’06 for his work with very young players like Miguel Cabrera, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, Dontrelle Willis, Anibal Sanchez and Jeremy Hermida. The Yankees recently jettisoned a series of veterans and now have youngsters like Tyler Austin, Aaron Judge, Gary Sanchez, Luis Severino and Luis Cessa on their roster, and they’ll likely add more young talents, such as Clint Frazier, over the next year or so. (Austin and Judge, by the way, each homered in their first big-league plate appearances today.) Girardi says he doesn’t mind having so many young players on the roster together. “For young players, I think it is probably easier to do it in a group,” he says. “Many times they have been through struggles together before in the minors. More important, when one young player struggles in the majors, he can feel alone and singled out among veterans.”
- The Rays and Giants have resolved their issue concerning infield prospect Lucius Fox’s injury status, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times writes. The Rays acquired Fox two weeks ago in the Matt Moore deal, but Fox ended up having a bone bruise in his foot that would cost him the rest of the minor league season. The Rays had initially hoped to receive additional compensation from the Giants as a result, but the two sides have now agreed that the Rays will not receive such compensation, since Fox’s foot issue had not yet been determined to be an injury.
Duffy was a solid move for the Rays
Red Sox farm is still stronger than the Yankees
Not according to every baseball professional who rated the farm systems
Agree. Deeper with only top, impact type rated prospects (benintendi, Devers and Moncada) are universally rated very high and have high celing/high floors now also.
Dombrowski has now traded much of the rest of the middle type.. Margot, Guerra, One of the Basabe twins. Only Groome really from the 2016 draft seems to have a chance as an impact type. Rest look on the surface as relievers of the future, or backups.. Worse to me at least. Have seen few at Ft Myers this year.
Believe overall depth of NY’s system, as rated by BA midseason rankings was correct to put them higher than that of the Sox, tho they are still lacking the truly impact type kids of Mocada/ Benitendi talents.. Maeto is a different kind of animal and am curious to see how that plays up consistently at the MLB and especially AL East levels against rifle armed, defensive specialist type catchers.
I’d add Kopech to the list of impact types, but there is a precipitous ceiling drop off after the first four or five ranked prospects in the system. Yankees system looks like ours did a few years ago, when it was stocked with talent, but there was a huge drop off after Bogaerts. That said the Sox still managed to produce three all star starters from it so the Yankees farm could still produce several star type players. It’s just a matter of waiting to see how it all shakes out.
Have you seen what Aaron Judge and Gary Sanchez have done since being promoted? No prospect is a sure think but Yanks have plenty of prospects who could end up being impact guys.
Silly comment. None of the minor league ratings agree with you. Typical Red Sox hype.
That’s really not relevant At All. There are 28 other teams in the league including Three that play in the same division as Yankees and Red Sox.
Don’t know what experts your reading from. You made some nice trades to make your farm definitely better but relax pal. You’ll probably ready to annoint judge and Austin as hall of famers just like severino. How’s he doing? Sox most likely signed the #1 pitcher in the draft. Red Sox also have the Moncada who is in top 5 prospect in all of baseball
No one is annointing Yankee farmhands as future Hall of Famers. Most Yankee fans are happy with the change in direction, period. The revised farm system is well thought of and well rated. Of course, nothing could compare to the Red Sox, both on the field, and in the minors. .It’s a wonder teams don’t faint and forfeit when they get on the field with them.
Expert are rating the Yankees farm system higher now and i’m a Redsox fan. But they can rate them as high as they want, doesn’t mean there gonna produce at the major league level.
Just Bogaerts and Betts are probaly gonna be better than any of the prospects the Yankees had or have now. And that’s without the likes of Benny,Moncada,Devers and groome. We also Have Dubon who is killing it in Portland.
In Pawtucket Haley has been putting in work and M.Hernandez. We have numerous other’s who can peak at any time out of nowhere, some have been up and down but have shown potential. So all in all we have a bunch of players who are gonna play in the majors believe we are far from done!!
“But they can rate them as high as they want, doesn’t mean there (sic) gonna produce at the major league level”
You then go on to list a variety of Red Sox prospects, acting as if your above quote doesn’t apply to them as well. Prospects are just that, prospects. As highly as Benintendi, Moncada, and Devers are ranked, no guarantees they work out.
Bla…bla…bla…typical Red Sox Nation hype…..we’re so much better than anybody else.
Don’t put Moncado in the Hall of Fame just yet. And Groome…..please this kid may or may not be the real thing…didn’t you say rating them high means nothing or did I miss something? Or does that just apply to everyone except the Sox?
The Red Sox have THE Moncada, calling a guy THE must mean you already consider him a hall of famer. I’m just messing with you I’m guessing it was just a typo.
Yes, everyone, the Yankees have the best farm system. Unfortunately, that guarantees nothing. The road to the majors is riddled with the failed promise of once-hyped prospects. Lars Anderson, anyone?
This is true. But I do feel like scouts are doing a better job at projecting a player’s trajectory nowadays. There are less busts from the first round of the draft. More data and technology is helping teams make the right decision.
Well, except the Diamondbacks. I don’t know what they are doing.
The Yankees have 6 players in the top 50 in all of baseball. I’m going by ESPN, Bleacher Report, MLB.com who all ranked them 2nd in all of baseball.
Do Yankee fans think Girardi will be around long term? Is he the manager of the future?
I’m not a big girardi fan, but I think he will be. He did a good job with a young Florida Marlins team when he was there. Will be interesting to see how he handles prospects as opposed to already established players.
Good Lord who cares about comparing the Yankees and Red Sox farm systems? These two teams do not play in a vacuum against each other 162 times a year. They are competing against every other team in the majors. Trust me they are not concerned with this, they are worried about themselves. How old are you guys, like 12? Grow the **** up
I’m afraid your argument is invalid. Red Sox Yankees rivalry is one of the biggest in baseball.
Exactly. I’m sure they are far more concerned about being 3rd and 4th in their division right now
Thank God the Red Sox won it all in 2013, otherwise the focus would be on how they’ve dominated the AL East basement after their epic chicken and beers collapse…
No question the Yankees have significantly improved their farm system. They may technically even have a higher rated farm system than the Red Sox, but personally I’d actually rather have the Red Sox farm. The Yanks have quantity now, but I’d much rather have the quality. There is only so much space on a roster and especially with the Sox already having a ton of talent on their line up they only have the room for star quality or something approaching it. I’d be happy to see more high end pitching prospects though.
If the Yankees could replicate the success Red Sox are having with their young players, I would be happy. Yeah, we have a better system, but that is just potential with little certainty. Red Sox prospects have realized their potential, or are on their way, at least. Hopefully both teams start winning at the same time again. Baseball is great when that happens.
Boston needs rebuild their pitching……. They need to start drafting pitching like there drafts in hitting…….
They just did with the 7th (I think) overall pick this year
12th.
Looks like Boston’s “great” farm system is being dismantled while Cashman manages to restock NY’s and leapfrog Boston in less than a week.
Yes… that poor Boston farm system. Has produced no pitchers, Wright and Rodriguez stink. No quality position players, Betts, Bogaerts, Bradley and Benintendi stink and are nowhere near as good as Judge, Mateo and Refsnyder. They have no good pitchers in the minors, Groome and Kopech are overrated. All hail the baby bombers king of the under 25 organization.
Giants are playing terrible baseball. If this continues there will be some big changes going into next season. Starting with the bullpen. A starter and probably trading Hunter Pence……
He’s history…..
Overrated farm system. 2 starting outfielders in Allstar game ( betts and Bradley Jr) a third all star with bogaerts..every team in baseball would love to have moncada, who is 20 and batting 300 with 60 steals this year and the power is coming fast. Benintendi already starting in left field after a year in minors. Swihart got hurt, but still has value. Sometimes you may get lucky and find a 27 yr old knuckleball pitcher who can win 16-17 games.Those prospects that are overrated got kimbral and pomeranz this season alone. That overrated farm system also produced 07 championship pedroia, elesbury, paps, and Lester. Prospects are prospects until they actually do something, some become hall of famers, some Allstars, some serviceable pieces, some flame out. The sox right now have them in majors and producing, until yanks do the same, they are overrating them, not sox fans.
Yanks farm system has done the same, it produced Jeter, Rivera, Williams, Pettite, Posada, and Cano, typical Red Sox fan saying they’re better than everyone, other teams’ farms are capable of producing talent not just the Red Sux.
How about players that are still playing the Red Sox have done a far better job with the farm system than the Yankees recently. The Yankees are rebuilding that now but they are behind with your talent at this point .
Jeter won 5 and don’t remember which of the Sox home growns that they did a “far better job” than that. Pedroia is only one left on team and his time is limited on team. I think if you look at this group coming in next year or so for Yankees looks more promising than when core 4 came up. Also will have tons of money to spend to fill pitching holes for years to come. Sox are going to have to trade some position talent next year for pitching.
Meyer isn’t still playing
Jeter isn’t still playing I said current players.
Sorry, but what have sox prospects done so far? Judge has 30+ hr power, Severino is an ace pitcher, and Sanchez is an allstar caliber catcher.
Now our farm system is the best in baseball, better than Boston’s.
Not many 7ERA ace pitchers in this league, he’s a keeper.
Lol and they are talking about Red Sox fans over rating there farm system that is funny.
Who cares who has a higher rated farm system. The Red Sox are reaping the awards of homegrown talent now. A farm system is a moving target by nature as you graduate high level prospects and they perform well then your system will, most probably get rated lower. The Red Sox have done a fantastic job of developing young position players the jury is still out on pitching. The Yankees have been late to the party on developing talent but did a great job of moving aging veterans for young talent and should be rewarded for that in the future. The old days of just going into free agency and buying every player just doesn’t work now. In order to compete year in and year out you will have to develop cheap controllable talent to give you the flexibility to fill in your roster with needed pieces from free agency. Kudos to the Yankees for making that bold move and getting away from their old ways.
HA! I told everyone that the Rays would get no compensation. I just wana say “in your face” to those who called the Giants crooked for that trade. Wake up and smell the pine tar Tampa Bay, thats no injury. Bruised foot.. Lord have mercy.