Given the Yankees’ recent history of making trades during or just after the GM Meetings, Joel Sherman of the New York Post wouldn’t be surprised to see the club swing a deal in the coming week. Such a trade could involve young players that the Yankees can’t find 40-man roster space for in advance of the Rule 5 Draft, Sherman notes, as teams have until 8pm on November 20 to finalize their 40-man rosters for this year’s Rule 5 selections (which take place after the Winter Meetings in December). Names such as Garrett Cooper, Bryan Mitchell, Luis Cessa, or Tyler Austin could potentially be dealt instead of kept on the 40-man — the latter two names are included by Sherman along with Starlin Castro in a speculative trade with the Giants for Joe Panik. That proposed deal is one of three speculative trades floated by Sherman “as an exercise to understand needs, goals and possibilities as much as anything else,” with the other two trades involving the Mets and Indians, and a three-team blockbuster between the Giants, Marlins, and Cubs.
Some more news from the Bronx…
- GM Brian Cashman told MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand and other reporters (all links to Feinsand’s Twitter account) that he has yet to speak to C.C. Sabathia or his representatives this offseason, though the general manager said he is likely to see Sabathia’s agent at the GM Meetings this week. Sabathia has already expressed an interest in returning to the Yankees in free agency, and given the veteran’s solid numbers in 2017, he’d give the club an experienced and productive arm at the back of the rotation, if the Yankees weren’t sold on Cessa or Mitchell as the fifth starter. Still, if New York makes a play for Shohei Ohtani as rumored, there might not be room for Sabathia in a rotation that also includes Masahiro Tanaka, Luis Severino, Sonny Gray, and Jordan Montgomery.
- The Yankees’ managerial search will be delayed until Thursday, while Cashman is at the GM Meetings. It isn’t known which candidate will be interviewed on Thursday. Cashman said his club is still “early” in the search process, noting that “I know we’re on the clock, but we have to go through the steps regardless….I’d like something to be in place, but we have a vacancy and we have to take our time to fill that void.”
Cashman is so lame
Such a well thought and explained position. Have you re-upped to spend next summer in Flushing?
Cashman deserves executive of the year for transforming the Yankees from rebuild mode to very competitive in one year.
It is not rebuild mode when you never go under the Lux Tax. If you want to see a team in rebuild mode look at the White Sox.
Thank. You.
That’s not true if you’re waiting out bad contracts
It is an absolute rebuild that Cashman has been doing since 2011. But unlike most organizations it wasn’t about stripping the team of their stars and payroll nor was it signing a bunch of FA. It was really a systemic change in scouting on the amateur, minor league and major league level from the team of Cashman, Damon Oppenheimer and Mark Newman/Gary Denvo. It was Cashman making shrewd trades for buy low young mlb players who were athletic and cheap. It was letting established mlb stars walk in their contract years. Swisher comp pick became Aaron Judge, Rafael Soriano comp pick became Ian Clarkin (used in a trade for Todd Frazier, David Robertson and Tommy Khalnle trade). Allowing Cano to walk and to resist forking over $200 mil plus for a guy who while productive was already in his early 30’s.
Look at the current core pieces going into 2018.
1b-Bird (2011 Yankee draft pick)
2b-Castro (acquired at age 26 for the 2016 season via trade for Adam Warren a Yankee draft pick)
SS-Gregorius (acquired at age 25 for the 2015 season via trade for Shane Green a Yankee draft pick)
C-Sanchez (A Yankee international prospect)
RF-Judge (2013 Yankee compensation daft pick when they let Swisher walk)
CF-Hicks (acquired for at age 26 via trade for JR Murphy a Yankee draft pick).
SP-Severino (2012 Yankee international prospect signee)
SP-Montgomery (2014 Yankee draft pick)
SP-Gray (acquired at age 27 via trade for James Kapreiland (a 2015 Yankee draft pick), Dustin Fowler (a 2013 Yankee draft pick) and Jorge Mateo (a 2012 Yankee international prospect signee).
RP-Betances- (2006 Yankee draft pick)
RP-Green- (Acquired at age 23 as a minor league prospect for Justin Wilson (who was acquired by Yankees for Fracisco Cervelli who was a Yankee international signee)
RP-Warren (A former Yankee draft prospect who was originally traded to the Cubs for Starling Castro and then later traded back to the Yankees along with Gleyber Torres, Billy McKinney and Rashap Crawford in the Aroldys Champan trade. Chapman was acquired by the Yanks via trade in for Eric Jagielo (2013 Yankee draft pick), Rookie Davis (a 2011 Yankee draft pick), Caleb Cotham (a 2009 Yankee draft pick).
RP-Chapman was a FA who prievously was acquired for prospects.
RP-Shreve (acquired at age 25 for the 2015 season as a minor league prospect for Manny Banuelous (a former Yankee international prospect).
RP-Kahnle (originally a Yankee draft pick he was acquire back by the Yankees in the trade involving Frazier for Yankee prospects and Ty Clippard, another former Yankee draft pick).
So that’s 15 of 25 players including 6 of the 9 position players, 3 of the 5 starters and 5 of the 6 bullpen arms (not including Chapman because he was brought back as a FA) that were all either original Yankee draft picks (Bird, Judge, Montgomery, Betances), Yankee international prospects (Sanchez and Severino) or traded for using Yankee draft prospects (Castro, Didi, Hicks, Green, Gray, Warren, Shreve, Kahnle and Dave Robertson).
And in the midst of all those trades they also managed to re-stock their farm system in the matter of a 4 month period by acquiring Gleyber Torres, Cliff Frazier, Justus Sheffield, Dillon Tate, Albert Abreu and Jorge Guzman which are all probably among our top 15 prospects with Frazier, Torres and Sheffield considered to be top 100 mlb prospects..
Going forward they have 7 mlb players on contracts earning $10 mil or more. Gardner, Robertson and Headley are all FA after 2018. Castro and Chapman are sill relevant players, Tanaka has 3/$69 mil left and Ellsbury is the only “dead weight” contract at 3/$68 mil.
In terms of acquiring young mlb star talent thru the minors, re-purposing salary for younger less expensive proven mlb talent and refraining from major multi-year mega contracts, Cashman has done an outstanding job of infusing much needed young cheap talent while reducing the 2017 25 man opening day salary payroll from 225 mil to 196 mil. From that total $80 mil was tied into players who may not be back next year in Arod (last year of contract), money owed for McCann trade, Sabathia, Matt Holiday. Tyler Clippard, Pineda and Chris Carter.
To make those kind of impact acquisitions without taking on any major contracts other than Chapman in the last 3 years is amazing. The fact that the most talked about trades he’s made have yet to even contribute on the major league level (Chapman, Beltran, Miller, McCann trades brought in most of the current top 10 prospects) speaks even more volume as to how cohesive and well planned the organizational retooling has been from the ground up.
As the Tigers are and Phillies were.
Could you give us a little more detail please?
Good answer ! Cashman is a great GM!
Despite their huge salary of the years this 2017/2018 Yanks were constructed much differently.
WAR position players was 28. 22 of those WAR were from Bird, Castro, Didi, Sanchez, Judge and Hicks. All of whom were either drafted by the Yanks, international prospects or traded for using Yankee prospects.
WAR pitching was about 24. 15 of that WAR came from Servino, Montgomery, Gray, Betances, Green, Kahnle, Warren and Shreve who again, are all either Yankee drafted players, international prospects or acquired using Yankee prospects.
Of those 14 players, none were FA. Only Castro earned anything over $9 mil last year ($9.6 mil). 7 are in their arbitration years and the ones that had the greatest impack (Judge, Sanchez, Serverino, Montgomery, Bird and Green) are all pre-arbitration players.
Their total salary amounts to about $40 mil or an average of about $3 mil per player.
Again, Cashman did an amazing job of filling 14 full-time positions via trade or draft/international amateurs without taking on a lot of salary and having years or under-market value control of all of them for at least 2 years or more per player. Any team with any kind of payroll could do that.
And he also shred payroll when he traded Chapman, Miller, McCann, Beltran and Nova and turned that into top 100-150 prospects Gleyber Torres, Clifton Frazier, Dillon Tate, Albert Abreu, Justus Sheffield and Billy McKinney. All in a 4 month period. Those guys haven’t even contributed to the 2017 mlb team in a meaningful way. Outstanding job.
Chapman was a FA signed for 86 MM
Miller was a FA signed for 4/40 and then traded to Cleveland for prospects.that helped make that farm rating. Mc Cann and Beltran were also big $$$ signings then traded for prospects while the NYY continued to pay them.
So Cashman was allowed to spend over 200 MM on FA’s on top of a truly bloated payroll and then use them to create the prospect pool. That is $$$ talking. not genius at work.
Wrong. I went to great length to discuss how the core of the talent going into 2018 (Bird, Castro, Didi, Sanchez, Judge, Hicks, Severino, Montgomery, Gray, Betances, Green, etc were all TRADED for using Yankee prospects they drafted or signed as interntional prospects. Yes, they spent tons of money previously. However, it is quite evident that all the major pieces that made them a world series contender in 2017 had NOTHING to do with the prospects they received in return for Beltran, Chapman, Miller and McCann,
Clearly there is a change in terms of how the mlb team functions. That’s not to say that they WON’T be in on the Harpers, Machados, etc but they no longer rely on free agency to acquire talent.
Just the fact that those prospects acquired in those 2016 trades have yet to even make it on to the mlb roster should speak volumes to a job well done. If anything you can say the Yanks system is healthy DESPITE a couple of bad contracts like Ellsbury and to an extent Sabathia and Tanaka.
So anxious Eventually that you punctuate thank. And then you.
Wow. Big statement. Are you working on your next identity here?
Rebuild had nothing to do with going under the luxury tax. That’s your jealousy statement, which eventually has carried around his whole career here.
So after sporting the identity, “Mets’15NLchamps’16WS champs you moved to Mets Eventually in 2016.
Here’s a more accurate one Eventually:
MetsWSchampsNotinmylifetime.
Wow excellent assessment. Honestly the most impressive part was that u typed this in this little square.
I agree in principle but a lot of those contracts they are digging out of are on him.
I think most impressive was he had the balls to get rid of Girardi. Joe was solid but his handling of pitchers caused most of the confidence issues with guys Like bentances.
They’ve been competitive every year since 1994. Trading away two relievers and a catcher does not make it a rebuild year.
Traded away Andrew Miller, Aroldis Chapman, Carlos Beltran, Ivan Nova, and Brian McCann to make the 18th rated farm system into a top 5 farm system. Just because you don’t lose a lot doesn’t mean its not a REBUILD of the franchise.
Cashman has done a good job. The ’13 Yankees were old, overpriced, and underwhelming. Four years later, there is only one onerous contract (Ellsbury), the team is young, and they are ready to win now. I’m not on board with letting Girardi go, but I’m giving Cashman some rope, he’s earned it…
Right. And he was able to do it with only going a little over a Billion $$ for those 4 yrs. Of course that was with paying 304 MM in Lux Tax from 2003 to 2016 with a big chunk still owing for 2017.
Your attempt to try to identify the new Yankee way of building a team with the old George Steinbrenner way has no validity and only makes you look foolish.. They proved that was in the past in the 15/16 offseason when they didn’t sign a single MLB free agent.. Their highly touted farm and lack of signing David Price, Heyward, Lester, Greinke, Cueto, Zimmerman (or any other $100+ million dollar free agents) the last few years have only solidified the new Yankee way..
Players currently on their farm or fresh to MLB have also provided the Yankees with solid players (potential superstars) to allow them to avoid signing Machado or Harper next year.. Their OF will be Frazier/Hicks/Judge and Torres will play 3rd.. They really have no holes that will require a mega contract to fill.. Take your hate to the Red Sox and Dodgers (the Dodgers seem to be avoiding huge contracts now, as well) since they seem to be still building the old Steinbrenner way..
The Yankees will most certainly be in on Harper and until then Gardner is the starting LF.
It’s not the losing, it’s the building without being over the tax line every yr.
Let’s look at the numbers:
2014 — 218.5 MM
2015 — 223.8 MM
2016 — 243.8 MM
2017 — 25man opening dday roster 196.4 MM plus 15 more players and still was allowed to add Frazier and Robertson et al during the season. That’s $$$ talking as opposed to the BS your peddling.
If the Yanks are in it in July there will be pressure to trade for rentals even if they go over the Lux Tax line again.
I refuse to believe they will not go after Harper & Machado next year and Ohtani this yr.
Yes Cashman has been a little smarter than he was in the 12yrs 2002-2012 when he won 1 WS despite having the biggest payroll every yr. But that is a long way from winning despite having limited $$$.
Otani will cost little they absolutely are going after him. They are trying to restet to penalties by going under this yr and then yes Machado and Harper are play If Andujar and Floral aren’t ready. Look for Clint Frazier to be traded this offseason
CC and A-Rod made up what, 47 million of that. Both those contracts now gone…
You are right nail…though this jealous hater could also easily be a resentful Mets fan who claimed in ’15 that he supported both teams. Once called out as a front runner he was forbidden back in Yankee Stadium. Lol
Oh JMI–are you a resentful Brooklyn Dodgers fan? Anyone that knows this game appreciates that GM’s serve at the pleasure of their owners.
Cash finally was given the ok to get ahead of the curve for how baseball operates TODAY. So he embodied a new strategy and it is working.
So stop with your statistical analysis of long history and come to grip with the fact that the Yankees have been reengineered WITHOUT having to put their fans through the pain of tanking. That in itself is a major accomplishment given that you would have a hard time mentioning any other team in the last 5 years that has done so.
And they could easily go after both Machado and Harper. However that’s likely not to happen once Gleybor comes up and Frazier is given a chance to get into the OF rotation.
Yes, Cashman has done a much better job of using his farm system. What he did by trading both Chapman and Miller was unprecedented (or possibly lucky, right commodity, right time, but he did take advantage). Trying to say money has nothing to do with it, however, is failing to see the forest for the trees. Put him in Minnesota, Tampa Bay, or Cincinnati and we will find out how he does without the dollars. I am not saying he is not a good GM. I am simply saying he could not operate so consistently without dollars being available. On every other team, once you trade your closer for prospects, you do not have the budget to resign him, let alone add another teams closer to pitch set up. The Yankees do.
You’re still missing the most important point. Cashman acquired their starting 1b, 2b, SS, C, RF, CF, 3 starting pitchers and just about the whole bullpen via draft/international FA or trades. Not a single one of those mentioned came from a trade involving Beltran, Chapman, McCann or Miller. The prospects from those trades haven’t even made it to the majors, aside from the 100 AB Frazier got last year.
Cashman is trash.. he uses all kinds of excuses. Shoulda kept Joe is all I can say
I feel like Castro is the better asset over Panik..
Panik is cheaper, controlled longer and has been really similar over the last 2 years, and a lot better over the last 3
But Castro has da homerz!
Can see NY looking at Panik, but some of these Yankee fans hoping he can be gotten for nothing but fringy rule 5 people is hillarious
Perhaps the Sux should get him while the Backstabber is rehabbing. Probably all it would take would be those two world beaters Swihart and Travis!!!
No way. Besides being younger, cheaper,and controlled longer, Panik has a gold glove at 2B, and a career 105 OPS+. Castro is defensively suspect with a career OPS+ of 98. The Giants still believe in the pitching and defense concept; Castro for Panik, even with prospects, makes no sense for SF.
The Sherman article also includes one of the worst Stanton proposals I’ve seen from an actual writer. The Marlins aren’t going to get much for Stanton if theres no money being paid down, but the idea that the Giants can get rid of Cueto, plus only give up 2 meh prospects for Stanton is kind of ridiculous to me
Not only that, he stated that JD Martinez is probably the better hitter or player. All cred went out the window there.
Get rid of Cueto…he has been one of the twenty best starters over the past three years (a time frame you choose to use to compare Panik and Castro.)
He had an article where the Dodgers traded Kazmir and Verdugo for Verlander and Wilson back in july. Then the Tigers get Franklin Perez, Candelerio, Paredes , Daz Cameron and Jason Rodgers for those 2. He really doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about
I just clicked the article. Sherman must be on drugs. Cubs would never trade Ian Happ and Zobrist for Cueto. Thats just terrible.
Why Cueto sucks
I really don’t understand why Girardi was let go. What it due to that one playoff blunder?
More of his management style. From what I hear from MLBTR’s sources is that he rubbed people the wrong way.
The Yankees have been smart and disciplined for the past two years. I am curious to see who they hire as their manager. It seems like they are a step ahead of baseball right now and I think who they pick might tell us a lot about what the next managerial trend will be.
That trend has already happened w/ Roberts and Hinch in the World Series and Cora on the Red Sox
How many impact players were on both teams?? There’s your difference.
It will tell us either the latest trend or it will be the latest managerial hiring mistake. It’s assuming a lot that the next manager for the NYYs will be an improvement on Girardi.
No that was not the reason
From what I’ve read/heard, Girardi’s people skills aren’t that great and he tends to treat every game like a Game 7 (which has its pros and cons). Yankees want a manager who would connect with the players more while also being able to grow with the core of the team.
Because he kept a binder.
Get used to the binder, the stat geeks aren’t going away, no matter who the manager is…
It even has its own Twitter account.
Shout out to @GirardisBinder! (Currently FA)
twitter.com/girardisbinder?lang=en
It was time to move on. Joe was no longer managing a veteran team with future HOFamers.
At the same time, managing a MLB team became a young mans’ occupation.
Joes voice became less effective with a predominantly younger team. His inability to rally Sanchez’s defense and Betances’ mound presence are two examples.
He had a great run. Leave it at that and move on.
Well said Mikey!!!
What’s the point of firing a good manager if you don’t have a good replacement manager ready to go.
Because they wanted a different voice
The voice they want is Cashman’s. Joe had a brain and ideas. The next NYY mgr will be a puppet.
Why would the Giants give up Panik for Castro? Panik already has Gold Glove. He’s a good no. 2 hitter. Castro’s power will suffer at AT&T.
Because its Joel Sherman talking out of his rear end again
Joel Sherman=Mr. Met
Actually the majority of Castro power is to left center field where it is deeper in YS3 than AT&T. Aka why they call it Death Valley
AT&T is a hitters park. The weather in the Bay area holds down homeruns.
Noooo!! Not Garrett Cooper.
2017 Yankees Stats: .326/.333/.488 (5 doubles, 1 triple) over 45PA.
After that hamstring injury, Yankees sent him down, and he was never brought back up.
He was criticised for hitting in hitter friendly PCL, so the #’s were disregarded (.366 BA with 17 homers and 82 RBI in just 75 games with the Brewers’ Triple-A, before trade to the Yankees)
Give him a chance.
i liked him. i thought he should have a place on this team. you can keep him over tyler austin IMO
Cooper doesn’t have the power necessary for a 1st baseman.. He reminds me of James Loney and should be traded to an NL team..
Cant wait until 11/20 when we see whos on the table for the R5. Always some interesting names left on the table
I feel like Sherman doesn’t actually consider stats and just considers trades based on name recognition. In no world does that Stanton make trade sense. No chance the Cubs give up Happ for Cueto, let alone throw Zobrist in there too.
and who wants Zobrist anyway, he’s knocking on 40’s door…
And no mention of his NTC..good job again Joel!
Was about to write same. Sherman fails to do research that takes all of 30 seconds.
Aww.. I missed this one.
Always love a good Sherman roast.
He deserves the criticism.
Why happ isn’t special
Come home Panik! Get er done Cashman! Castro+some 40 man casualties enough to get it done?
Love to see Panik on the Yankees. For one he grew up cheering for them and like you said would be coming home. The trade idea Joel suggested was an overpay big time though…
i didnt read the article, but if you can swap out castro for panik thats definitely a plus
i just read it. i dont think thats an overpay. austin and cessa dont have a real spot on the team going forward, and getting rid of castros money would be a good thing
It should be a one for one swap. I agree with the salary(and I can’t stomach Castro most days) but just Joel’s apparent anti-Yankee trades are legendary…
I don’t see Panik as an upgrade to Castro, he had a 2.0 WAR in 132 games while Castro had a 1.9 WAR in 112 games, hardly and upgrade. Torres will be taking over 2nd mid year.
panik could develop that yankee stadium power a la brett gardner and didi
Panik played with a concussion last season. His numbers picked up at the end of the season.
Torres is taking over 3rd not 2nd next year.. If they had plans for him at 2nd they never would have started teaching him 3rd this year.. Before 2017 he had zero innings at 3rd..
I know you are probably drooling at the thought of the Yankees signing Machado to play 3rd but it probably is not going to happen.. Unless, both Torres and Andujar both turn out to be busts, which isn’t likely.. Plus, they have way too much young talent at the MLB level and in the minors to justify a Harper signing.. Sorry, but I doubt they sign either of them..
Cherry-picking single-season WAR totals isn’t a great way of evaluating players. They’re the same age, they’ve been comparable hitters the past few years, and Panik has a vastly superior defensive reputation. His metrics this season were terrible after being solid to very good throughout his career, and that’s probably just a fluke (defensive metrics do that from time to time), so I do think there’s a substantial difference there
No way that’s an overpay. Panik, being younger, a gold-glover with more team control, has far more surplus value than Castro. Panik has a higher career OPS+, and a higher average WAR. Castro ia an indifferent defender. Throwing in 2 average, to below average prospects, who are a bit long in the tooth, still doesn’t make sense for the Giants who plan to contend on pitching and defense.
I don’t see the Yanks going after Panick, he isn’t even better than Castro. Torres will be taking over at 2nd by mid year Castro will move to 3rd. If Cashman moves these players it will be for younger controlable players.
Panik is better than Castro. The only area Castro exceeds Panik is in 5 more points in career SLG. Panik’s defense at a key position alone, even if his numbers were slightly worse, instead of actually being better, would make Panik the better option over Castro.
I hate to say it but I think it’s time the Yankees walk away from Sebastian. As good as he was down the stretch he is lucky to go 5 innings his stamina is gone his fast ball is decent but not what it was. These are the type of players we need to avoid going forward.
Who on the staff won the most games AFTER a Yankee loss. Watch the game, not the box score. Pay attention to the changes happening to the game, where more teams are sealing a couple of awesome 5 inning pitchers and you will be up-to-date.
That Castro/Panik trade is one of the dumbest Sherman has come up with.
No chance the Giants (who are at $170 million already) trade a first year arb player in Panik (MLBTR projects a $3.5 million salary for 2018) for an $11 million dollar player in Castro, who just gets more expensive the next couple of years of his contract.. Panik is a solid player and there is a less than zero chance the Giants spend their small amount of money this year on a replacement for him.. The only Giants/Yankees trade I can see is a bad contract for bad contract swap involving Ellsbury (who can still play a solid CF when healthy) for Samardzija.. That solves the Giants CF problem and gives the Yankees a solid #4 pitcher to replace C.C. Who would then be a solid signing for the Giants to fill Samardzija’s spot in the rotation…The Yankee’s would have to throw in a prospect (Jake Cave makes sense) to get it done..
Why would anyone take Ellsbury off the Yankees hands? His contract is arguably one of the five worst in the game, and with three years left it will get even worse. He won’t be able to effectively play CF in SF, and he’s not the offensive player he once was. Samardzija, while not the stud some stat evaluators seem to believe, offers much greater value for the Giants.
Shark would get LIT-UP in the AL east and the Yankees more then likely bring CC back…
2005 called and wants its hot take back … the AL East hasn’t been a good hitting division – or a good division period – in years. The NL West, where Shark has been doing Ok, puts it to shame.
You a funny little guy…lol
A disgruntled Mariners fan for sure, he picked up traits of Mets fans and began to expect championships when they signed Cano.
That may have actually been the point of demarcation with Cash. Though everyone is on his back for the Elsbury contract, st 3 years shorter than Cano’s.
They haven’t won with Cano in what are certainly his most productive years and his decline though slight is obvious and going to become more steep over the next few years.
Credit Jayz with getting Robbie 3 more years and a bunch of $$ and fault him from taking his spot away from Cano in Monument Park.
I agree with you about Panik, but I also agree with eilexx about Ellsbury. The Giants actually appreciate what Samardzija brings to the rotation, and I think they value that over any perceived value that Ellsbury might bring. That was a terrible signing and the Yanks are stuck with it.
Shark and ellsbury’s contracts aren’t even comparable. Shark is an innings eating quality starter. He might not be worth what he’s making but you can do a whole lot worse in your rotation. Ells is finished. Part time player with a high probability of getting hurt. Samardzjia is only slightly overpaid. Not a chance in this world.
Let’s do a poll:
Who writes the dumbest articles:
1. Sherman
2. Carfado
3. It’s a tie
4. Other ________________ (name)
sherman
Phil Rogers
Tie between Cafardo and Nightengale
Easily cafardo. Carrabis is a moron too
Aside from him needing to swing a bat (which might be a deal breaker), I think Sabathia makes a lot of sense for the Nats.
1. With Joe Ross out they need another BotR starter for at least a year.
2. He has pitched in big games and can help them get over their playoff hump
3. He is relatively cheap, and it seems unlikely that they will pay for any big names in this year’s FA class
Cashman should have either let Girardi go last season or extended him for one more year after they went to the ALCS.. If Judge, Severino, Montgomery, Sanchez etc have a sophomore slump (I know Severino/Sanchez were not rookies last year but it was their first full year) and the Yankees don’t contend in 2018 Cashman is going to get skewered for letting Girardi go.. Yankee fans expect them to contend next year and will want Cashman tarred and feathered if they don’t..
Joel Sherman is the king of awful trade proposals. Why would Cleveland trade Kipnis for a defense only prospect and a crappy starter that has no respect for his bosses?
Adding fringe 40-man roster players to a deal hardly enhances it, particularly this time of year when the majority of teams are looking to clear roster space.
Sabathia is an Oakland Athletic. Bet on it!
The Castro for panik trade is a slight upgrade at best! It doesn’t make sense for the giants At all. They are both the same age panik is only seven months younger he walks more and he is a better defender. But Castro has more power which is a good thing when you play in a small park like Yankee stadium. To me its seems like reading the trade proposal one of the big attraction is that Joe panik grew up in new York and was a Yankees fan. Why not dump Castro’s salary have Ronald torreyes play second for the first half then let gleyber Torres take over after all star break or sooner if he is ready around June.
The Yankees are always good for an unexpected move. Currently, I assume they start the season with Chase Headley at 3B and Starlin Castro at 2B then gradually move Castro to 3B. and hope Gleyber Torres isn’t a bust at 2B.
idk what the marlins giants cubs trade was cause that was a disaster.
giants get stanton and ozuna and some cash for stanton
cubs get Bumgardner
marlins get happ, arroyo, shaw, beede, alzolay, and de la cruz.
no way this happens as the marlins can get better value trading ozuna solo but thats what it would take to make stanton a giant using cubs and marlins.
Panik’s defensive upside isn’t enough IMO for the Yanks to upset the apple cart.
a) Age wise Panik is only 7 months younger. They are both currently 27.
b) Yanks have 2 years and a team option on Castro. Panik has 3 arbitration years including this year, his first. If the Yanks pick up Castro’s option then both Castro and Panik will be FA the winter of 2020.
c) Castro gives you power at what’s normally not a power position. He may never be a high obp guy but he easily has 20-25 hr power and has had seasons of a .290/.340 before. Panik is a solid hitter w/ nowhere near Castro’s power. I think Castro can be a slightly less awesome version of Cano in terms of contact hitting, power and slightly average to below average OBP.
d) defensively Panik is better. Hands down. However, I can see the Yanks moving Castro to 3b and allowing Gleyber Torres to take over the position some time in the next year. ‘
e) Panik will have an adjustment to make to the AL and to NY. No telling whether he will adjust and the Yanks want to contend in 2018.
As said earlier, not enough upside to justify a Castro swap.