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Details On Ian Kinsler’s No-Trade Clause

By Jeff Todd | December 13, 2017 at 12:57pm CDT

12:57pm: Sherman has now tweeted the full list, reporting that the Yankees, Dodgers, Athletics, Padres, Giants, Rays, and Blue Jays are also teams to which Kinsler can block a move.

9:28am: It has long been anticipated that the Tigers will attempt to deal veteran second baseman Ian Kinsler, who’ll play for a reasonable $11MM salary. Indeed, the organization has made no secret of its intentions to hear offers to cash in one of its few clear trade assets.

As in the past, though, Kinsler’s partial no-trade rights could become a factor. According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, Kinsler has the right to block deals to three teams that seem to be quite sensible matches on paper: the Mets, Angels, and Brewers.

Indeed, the Halos may well be targeting Kinsler in particular. According to ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick, via Twitter, the Los Angeles organization has clear interest and may even be prioritizing Kinsler as it continues to search for an upgrade at second. At this point, there’s little clarity on how Kinsler will utilize his rights, though Sherman does note that he seems inclined to okay a deal to Los Angeles.

Of course, it’s unlikely that Kinsler is thrilled at the prospect of spending the season with the rebuilding Tigers rather than suiting up for a contender. And he has seemingly expressed an interest in just that. There were past indications that Kinsler would seek to use his no-trade clause to gain contract inducements, though he also downplayed that consideration at the time.

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  1. keepitago

    3 years ago

    Kinsler and Justin Upton are very close. He would definitely ok a trade to the Angels

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    • tuckshop25

      3 years ago

      Oh cool. Didn’t know you spoke to him and he confirmed that having one friend on the team will be enough for him to move 2,000 miles across the country to a place he clearly doesn’t want to play.

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      • yoyo137

        3 years ago

        How do you know he clearly doesn’t want to play there? Did you speak to him and confirm?

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        • tuckshop25

          3 years ago

          Well the fact that they’re on his block list is a good indication

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        • tuckshop25

          3 years ago

          I’m not saying there’s zero chance, but to say “he and Justin Upton are friends so he would definitely go there” is an overreach.

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        • RyÅn W Krol

          3 years ago

          His no trade clause is meant to gain leverage at his age.

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        • yoyo137

          3 years ago

          Damn son you tried to be all smart and now you look dumb

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        • Nick Coriaty

          3 years ago

          This is literally why he went to the Angels.

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  2. tigerdoc616

    3 years ago

    Problem is that the Angles have a fairly weak farm system. Sure, Ohtani and Maitlen boosted their rating, but after that. not much. And sure these two are not going to Detroit in a Kinsler trade. Please Al Avila, look elsewhere to move Kinsler.

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    • tigerdoc616

      3 years ago

      Sorry, it is Maitan, not Maitlen.

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    • kenny217

      3 years ago

      Jo Adell and Jahmai Jones are both solid prospects too.

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      • Caseys Partner

        3 years ago

        Should be able to get Cesar Hernandez with Jordan Adell.

        Kinsler is fried, he’s old. MLB has been trending younger for years now so this should be understood by everyone though it’s clearly not.

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    • mjbissonn

      3 years ago

      He’s not going to cost much in terms of prospects, considering his age and single season of team control. If he is indeed asking for contract inducements (i.e. more guaranteed money), the price is going to fall further. Throw in the fact that there is a glut of second baseman on the market, and I doubt LAA is sending one of their better prospects.

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      • Caseys Partner

        3 years ago

        What’s the point of getting Kinsler? Do the Angels want to make the playoffs or not?

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        • mjbissonn

          3 years ago

          He’s been one of the best second basemen in baseball over the past decade, so I’m sure they’d be hoping for a bounce back at the plate. His glove was great as always last year, so he still has that going for him. Also, the Angels have had one of the sorriest second base situations in all of baseball since they parted with Howie Kendrick. Going from replacement-level to Kinsler (even a past-his-peak version) would be a significant upgrade.

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        • Caseys Partner

          3 years ago

          In the PED era 36 year olds bounced back. Today MLB is juicing the ball instead of the player and a juiced ball doesn’t help an old player square up 95MPH.

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    • brucewayne

      3 years ago

      Ohtani is not gonna have any effect on the Angels minor league system! He’s going straight to the big club!

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    • pbwalk

      3 years ago

      You are crazy! Didn’t you see their draft class last year and the moves Epler has made to build it back up!

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      • pbwalk

        3 years ago

        And by the way, I wouldn’t even consider giving them a top prospect for an aging mediocre 2nd baseman that will leave next season…

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    • RyÅn W Krol

      3 years ago

      That’s old news. Their system has improved quite a bit in the last two years, to the point where there are finally reports floating around about scouts praising prospects like Jaime Barria and Jamhai Jones. Something that hasn’t happened in a while.

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  3. hook316

    3 years ago

    Unfortunately for Tigers, if a deal with LAA is coming, they’ve one of the worst farm systems. They traded Maybin last year to LAA for a “prospect” that DET just cut. Great deal Al.

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    • tigerdoc616

      3 years ago

      Not cut, outrighted to the minors. Can do that once in a players career without his consent. So Alcantara is still in the Tigers system. Just no longer on the 40 man roster.

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    • angryangel02

      3 years ago

      Do you really think one year of Ian Kinsler is gong to get you any notable prospects at all? He’s good but he’s coming off a down year, only one year on his contract, and there aren’t many teams interested in him. The tigers will take what they can get.

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    • RyÅn W Krol

      3 years ago

      And managed to get Upton… Their farm system has improved. Read up!

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  4. ripcookies

    3 years ago

    Yankees! Discuss.

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  5. Polez

    3 years ago

    Package Kinsler and Fulmer to the Yankees and get some prospects to find a way to compete within AL Central in years to come. Cleveland owns it for the next 1-2 years and the Whitesox are coming too. Just sayin

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    • mike156

      3 years ago

      Yankees wouldn’t want the $11M.

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      • mjbissonn

        3 years ago

        Yankees just moved Headley’s contract to the Pads, so they *could* do this if they wanted to. I don’t think it would put them over the tax.

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        • Pingleja

          3 years ago

          Pitching is what they’ll go after, they’ll make a midseason deal if Torres and/or Andujar don’t work out. No way they go after a 37 2B, especially after just getting rid of Headley.

          And no it wouidn’t put them over the tax, but they need flexibility to make adjustments midseason and not go over the line. Still have to sign at least one more SP before the winter is over.

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        • mjbissonn

          3 years ago

          Their 5 is pretty good now

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  6. slowcurve

    3 years ago

    Indeed!

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  7. imindless

    3 years ago

    Your not getting the angels top prospect for kinsler who is 35 on a 1 year deal and had a down year at the dish. Get real! Angels farm is vastly underrated, due to much unjust hate of the angels through out most mlb circles. One or two prospect in mids would be just fine.

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  8. angelsfan4life

    3 years ago

    I would rather the Angels bring back Brandon Phillips, than trade for Kinsler.

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    • oldleftylong

      3 years ago

      I would rather have the Angels bring back Joe Morgan. Dilly, dilly.

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  9. madmanTX

    3 years ago

    I hope the Angels get Kinsler. Instant clubhouse cancer.

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  10. mike156

    3 years ago

    If only I were 30 years younger and had exceptional athletic talent…maybe I could play for a “reasonable” $11M.
    I blame my parents. It’s a gene pool thing.

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  11. goincoastal

    3 years ago

    Could make sense for the Red Sox… only need a 1 year stopgap while Pedroia is down. Gotta imagine they could get him reasonably… well, that is if Trader Dave doesn’t shoot himself in the foot anyway.

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    • tgovey

      3 years ago

      I was thinking this as well, when Pedroia returns, Kinsler could help at 1B/DH and/or just trade him in July.

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    • oldleftylong

      3 years ago

      In DD we trust.

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  12. Bledcam

    3 years ago

    Send him back to the Rangers and we’ll give you guys back the remainder of Prince’s contract and some of our finest BBQ. Deal?

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  13. GarryHarris

    3 years ago

    How many 2B are available via free agency and trades? IMO, LAA should try to acquire Jonathan Villar. I’m not sure the Tigers will get much for Ian Kinsler:

    DET Ian Kinsler
    MIA: Starlin Castro
    CLE Jason Kipnis ?
    OAK Jedd Lowry
    TEX Jurickson Profar
    SDP Yangervis Solarte
    ARI Brandon Drury
    MIL Jonathan Villar.

    F/A Brandon Phillips
    F/A Neil Walker
    F/A Ryan Goins

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    • Pingleja

      3 years ago

      Dont forget Casear Hernandez in Philly

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      • tuckshop25

        3 years ago

        And Josh Harrison in PIT

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  14. vvadnala

    3 years ago

    Would the Angels be willing to trade Jahmai Jones or Matt Thaiss? Tigers are looking for position player prospects. On a side note, I believe Jahmai Jones is the brother of Detroit Lions WR TJ Jones.

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    • angelsfan4life

      3 years ago

      If the Tigers ask for any of the Angels top 15 prospects, I would not make the trade. Kinsler at 35 coming off his worst season, isn’t worth a top prospect.

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    • GeoKaplan

      3 years ago

      Oh god no. Not for one year of Kinsler. Go fish.

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  15. kcusgnikcufsregdod

    3 years ago

    Glad Giants are on his no trade list. Do not want the guy at all.

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    • oldleftylong

      3 years ago

      Do not want the Giants at all. Lousy, lousy team.

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  16. kcusgnikcufsregdod

    3 years ago

    Don’t know why Angels would want Kinsler. Much better options than him?

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  17. Realtexan

    3 years ago

    Kinsler for Odor. Even swap and re-sign Kinsler to a multi-year deal with the Rangers. Kinsler would be welcome back and an upgrade at second and hitting

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    • andrewgauldin

      3 years ago

      This is sarcasm, right?

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  18. Solaris601

    3 years ago

    Seems like a lot of hurdles to clear for a one-year rental. Angels might wanna exhaust all other possibilities before wading into this swamp.

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    • vvadnala

      3 years ago

      It sounds like he’s the Angels primary 2B target. And the Angels seem like the most likeliest destination right now for him.

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  19. angels in Anaheim

    3 years ago

    I would rather have Brandon Phillips back or Neil Walker than Kinsler.

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    • GeoKaplan

      3 years ago

      Walker is 32, fragile, and wants 4 years. He was towards top of my list earlier, but not on 4 year deal. He’ll have to come back to reality.

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  20. Doodoo Gregarious

    3 years ago

    Hates California—it’s cold and it’s damp.

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