4:15pm: Bird will miss “at least” a month of action, manager Aaron Boone told reporters (Twitter link via Newsday’s Erik Boland).
9:47am: The Yankees have selected the contract of first baseman Mike Ford, per a club announcement. Fellow first baseman Greg Bird is heading to the injured list with a left plantar fascia tear, with a 40-man roster spot created by shifting outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury to the 60-day IL. Jimmy O’Brien of Talkin’ Yanks had the news on Ford’s promotion this morning (Twitter link).
It’s more tough news for Bird, who was already scuffling in the batter’s box. The 26-year-old has dealt with a litany of injuries already in his career. Now, he has a potentially tricky new malady to overcome. Details on his anticipated timeline aren’t yet clear, but Bird will surely require a lengthy stretch on the IL. Plantar fascia tears can require up to a month in a walking boot even before the real rehab work starts.
Ford is also a 26-year-old, left-handed-hitting first bagger. When Bird debuted with the Yanks in 2015, though, Ford was working out the kinks at the High-A level.
There have been some ups and downs since, with both power and patience on display when he’s going good. Across 532 upper-minors plate appearances in 2017, Ford posted a .270/.404/.471 slash with twenty home runs and a snazzy mix of 94 walks and 72 strikeouts. Last year, the Princeton product sagged to a .760 OPS at the highest level of the minors.
Ford has been firmly on the risk so far in 2019. An afterthought in spring camp, he has burst out of the gates back at Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Through 45 trips to the dish, Ford carries a .410/.467/.897 batting line with five long balls and four walks to go with seven strikeouts.
Well at least we now how every position filled on the IL….
The Yankees injured list is legit an all-star team at this point. And that’s coming from a Red Sox fan!
Greg Bird. The perennial all-star.
Bird wouldn’t even be considered for the AS team if he was on a team like the Marlins where you HAVE to pick someone to go.
I get what your saying, and it’s nuts really. Sure Bird isn’t an allstar, but many of the other players certainly are. I want to be pissed at the team as a fan for the slow start, but how can you be when this many talented guys are on the shelf.
You have to wonder about the strength and conditioning coaches at some point.
What does that have to do with a tear in the foot?
Exactly. And the manager. What did they NOT do right in the off-season and spring training? I don’t think any other team has this problem.
You are correct that our DL is an all-star team, but Bird’s injury should not have been the one to prompt this post. He is just plain awful.
DL team:
Cf: Hicks
Lf: Elsbury
Rf: Stanton
SS: Gregorious
C: Sanchez
3b: Andühar
2b: Tulo
1b: Bird
Pretty good lineup here.
P: Severino
Cl: Betances
Mr: Heller
Lr: Montgomery
We could win a WC game with this team
A legit All-Star team from Hal and yes man’s point of view. Yankees need a new ownership.
This made me lol. Thanks for the laughs stranger.
I never could figure out why Cashman was so in love with Bird.
Hal is, he makes $600K and had all three options remaining.
Because he has a beautiful silhouette..
Because he’s shown to have talent? There are a lot of guys that do well in the minors, do well in a brief showing and then never come thru with expectations.
A career minor league .281/.396/.485 from a tall lefty with power and plate discipline playing half the season in a stadium that favors pull happy lefties? Let’s not forget the initial tear he had debuted back in 2015 with 11 homers in 46 games.
I truly think however, that if there weren’t so many injuries that he would’ve begun the season in AAA. If Voit can show he belongs then this might be the last season with Bird as a Yankee.
I was too. The talent is there, and it has been shown in flashes. I’m no longer expecting anything for Bird though. I was sticking with him literally up until now, but the guy just can’t stay on the field. On rare occasion when he is out there, he seems to always be playing catch up on reps. Can’t get his strength , endurance, or timing back.
The same reason he’s in love with Ellsbury. He’s a sucker. Bird is just another talented player who has no desire to play baseball, but to milk the system for all the money he can get.
Need a 1B? Edwin Encarnacion, Ryon Healy, Jay Bruce. Just sayin’!
And smoak
bye bye birdy
I think we’ve seen the last of Bird in pinstripes.
for the sake of all NYY fans i would hope so
Unfortunately Bird is probably done as a NYY. Of course stranger things have happened and could again, but figure if someone (Voit, Ford, or TBD) gets going at the 1b position, Bird is roster afterthought when (or if) he returns.
Bird is awful with his 56 wRC+ so far so this might be a good thing
personally I would never care about this but you might want to change “doing good” to “doing well”
This ones for you x wherever you are. Easy on the cartwheels.
its really not that serious lol
x was always Fords biggest fan, and hated Bird. Why isn’t it “that serious”?
He’s still around. He changed his name to Thanks. Sometimes still posts under x on the hoops rumours.
Yea They banned my mlbtr account.
I’m still in process of fighting, to get it back.
Since a reference was made to me cereal, hope these post(s) don’t get deleted 🙂
And thank you!
Ford hit .259 with two HRs, 10 RBI in 54ABs with Seattle Mariners’ Spring last year, (including 8-for-13 with a HR last five)
Was returned to the Yanks cuz vogelbach hit
six homers and impressive .388/.508/.878 !!!
As always no sweat x. Greg Bird will never be the word.
It took Mike Ford 572 minor league games and 2,358 plate appearances, before he made MLB
“Forget about last year’s Spring… 2019 Spring:
“16-for-39 (.410) with five home runs, 14 RBIs in 10 games, batting .538 past seven.”
nypost.com/2019/04/16/mike-ford-sizzling-yankees-p…
But does he surf???
They should’ve just banned your IP altogether. You create multiple accounts and like your own comments multiple times. It’s kinda sad really.
I think you meant rise instead of risk in that last paragraph
Yep
yeah he never proofreads anything
Took 13 injuries but we finally got one that makes us a better team.
Looks like Bird is done as a Yankee. He’s gone full Nick Johnson. Maybe like Nick he can stay on the field for another team, but it clearly won’t happen here.
GTFO & stay out Bird
Nick never stayed on the field for anyone.
ouch
Now go out and get a first baseman 2015 has been over.
You know Eric Thames might be a good fit for Yankees with that short porch, plus he needs a new start somewhere else
I agree that Eric Thames should be the full time 1B somewhere. He’s bettter than more than half 1B in MLB. I’d like to see him go to TBR, BAL, TEX, KCR or DET and become a star.
How willing would the Brewers be to trade him? Aguilar hasn’t gotten off to a good start yet.
Do think that they are ready to move on for both parties because Huira is ready to come up and take over at second. Then Moose can move third then Shaw and Aguilar can platoon at first
Gee, it had been 8 days between Tulo going on the DL and then Sanchez. Before Sanchez it was 3 days to Andujar and Stanton, than 3 more days to Betances and Hicks.
I was starting to worry, but 4 days between Sanchez and Bird shows they are getting their rhythm back.
Story of his career bet he(Bird), gets nontendered this offseason
Poor, poor Begamin…
youre obsessed my dawg. im living in your head rent free because i said it was unfair to close the book on Bird.. months ago.
The book has been slammed shut on Bird for 2+ years. You’re the only one who doesn’t know it.
Apparently I am not the only one who thinks less than 700 MLB PA’s isnt enough to close the book on a kid when the Yankees put him in the lineup almost every game.
Get a grip bro
Maybe you could trade him for Swihart. Saw that same post under his DFA article. …can’t give up… not enough ABs… blah blah blah…
Bingo!
Off season
Go out and get a real first baseman – I dunno what I’m talking about
Go out and get a left fielder – I dunno what I’m talking about
Go out and sign P Corbin and trade for a top flight SP – I dunno what I’m talking about cuz their Sp is just fine.
Go out and bring in Machado or Harper I rather have Harper Yankees need some LH bats – I dunno what I’m talking about they’ll cost to much.. As if it’s your money)
To all the Yesnetwork forums posters. I never seen a bunch of cluleless posters in my LIFE!
im sure you predicted every injury too (you know, the only reason why acquiring all those people would actually make sense)
Maybe he just wants all those players on the IL too.
Dude. It’s 15 games into the season.
1B- This is a position that could be filled by anyone so long as they can hit, Voit, LeMahieu, Andujar, Sanchez could all play 1B.
LF- Unless you’re psychic, no one could have predicted Hick’s and Staton’s injuries. Without that, you have Hicks, Stanton, Judge, with Gardner to backup and Clint Frazier waiting in the wings. Why spend 300M for a position of overabundance?
SP- Yankees SP has been doing pretty well so far. Paxton had a rough three starts, but it ain’t the end of the world, Tanaka had one bad inning. The bullpen has been atrocious, which no one saw coming.
Machado/Harper – Why? Machado ain’t going to play 1B, and the yankees have an AS team in the OF, so why Harper.
LH bats – Yanks are 4th in OBP and 5th in OPS, are they really missing LH bats?
Again, it’s 15 games in and the Yanks suffered a lot of injuries, which is a freak occurrence. Not sure why we’re playing Carnac the Magnificent so early in the season.
Andujar is out with no timetable for a return. DJ has played less than 5 games at first. Sanchez has never played there.
Why Harper..a needed LH power bat.
Your comment doesn’t address the original post. He argued that in the offseason he called for x,y,z, as if he had some knowledge that the yankees would suffer all these injuries. You also are bringing up injuries no one could have predicted. Who’s to say instead of Andujar, it would have been Machado or Harper to be inured?
Also, again, ANYONE can play first base. That’s why they stuck people like Mo Vaughn, Prince Fielder, Joe Mauer,Frank Thomas, Joey Votto, etc. there. Only qualification that matters is that you can rake. Also, guaranteed, in 3 years Gary Sanchez will be the Yankees 1B/DH.
Again, who says you need a LH power bat? Especially on a team that before injuries was in the running to be the 1st 300HR ball club ever.
Joey Votto is a good 1B and not in the Mo Vaughn class.
If he was any good of a fielder, he would be at another position. No one sticks a good fielder at 1B. A good fielding first basemen is the equivalent to a good hitting pitcher, good for their position, but not good. Ok, but let’s take out Joey Votto anyway, and you still get my point.
I hear you but…
Ever see Keith Hernandez, or Don Mattingly play first? A good athlete there can make a difference…
Anyway, Jay’s started their mid-season sell off early this year, Smoak should be available for salary relief and little else…
Votto has a full NTC and he has repeatedly said he does not want to leave Cinci. He still mashes, but I highly doubt he leaves Cinci. If he does, he is also quite pricey and he has a number of years left on his deal.
Thames or Bruce are probably the better part-time veteran bat that can be had for cheap. Aguilar has had a crap start to his season, but maybe MIL moves him instead of Thames. The Yankees have far bigger concerns at starting pitching. It seems that every year (over the past 3-4 years) their starters have been injury risks, but this year could finally be when the house of cards falls.
Or more recent – Tex.
You are correct. I’m not saying there aren’t guys who play a good 1b, Mattingly was one of my all time favorite players, but the argument was you couldn’t put andujar or sanchez at first, but most teams stick almost anyone at 1b as long as they can hit. A 1b who can hit and also field is a plus, but the fielding is secondary. No need to go out and GET a 1b, unless they are the rare Mattingly type.
First base has been a problem since 2015. They should have went out and got a 1b many moons ago.
LF is not fine Brantley or anything else would have been an upgrade besides Gardner. Let’s not even get into the Gardner topic.
SP is not fine and it tells my eyes it was never fine. It’s always been the Yankees problem.. Yankee are missing that one two punch even before Servino got Hurt.
They have no LH bats
1B is never a problem. Again, that is a position you stick your best hitter who also sucks at fielding, sort of like catcher in little league. Sanchez will be the 1B within 3 seasons.
Yankees starting LF is Giancarlo Freaking Stanton! The same injury could have happened to Harper.
SP, actually, I forgot about Happ, so I’ll concece that a 4.45 ERA for starting SP is not stellar. But again, 15 games into the season? I’m more worried about the supposed invincible bullpen that is giving up leads left and right, but again, 15 games.
The only reason “Giancarlo Freaking Stanton” was playing LF was because of the injury to Hicks, and they didn’t sign someone other than Gardner. Man you’re way off if you think they can stick just anyone at First.
yes, the Yankees shouldve signed Harper to be their 4th OFer instead of signing a depth player like Gardner to play a depth role…
if you wouldve passed your crystal ball over earlier and we couldve seen all the players that hit the IL then it wouldve made sense to go spend $600MM total on already filled positions
Just ask Ron Washington.
Greg Bird has produced about as much offense as Big Bird, so this isn’t exactly going to set the Yankees back.
How close are any of the hitters to returning? Almost out of players to use.
Are they going to try to hide Ellsbury on the DL the whole season? I assume they will eventually release him, as they have already given his locker to Urshela.
I dunno how severe the plantar is but maybe this will actually do Bird some good. It might allow him to reset his mind a bit. He’s been lost at the plate trying to guess pitches. His timing has been very bad this season thus far.
Lets see how Ford will fare
I think Yankees fans have said that exact same thing for 3 years now. Let his mind reset while he heals his foot. I think it is time to cut ties and move on.
the only thing I’ve heard from Yankees fans for the last 3 years was “dfa him!!!!”. I didnt think the injury would take at least a month tho (i posted before the timetable was announced). Thought it couldve been the minimum amount of time, which would have allowed him to just work with the hitting coaches for a week and make some adjustments there instead of making the adjustments mid-AB
Wasn’t there a Mike Ford who played for the Twins years ago?
I think your remembering a Lew Ford.
Oh yes that’s it.
Most patients are able to walk normally after three to six weeks, Full recovery and the return to high-impact activities and exercises like running or jumping may take around three months. So we looking at an August return if all goes well.
Just cut him loose.
This may be addition by subtraction: Mike Ford is doing great in AAA. He’s a much needed LH hitter but, somewhat a low range defender at 1B.
The defense actually improves with Gio Urshela at 3B and DJ LeMahieu at 2B. If another OF goes down, the Yankees AAA OFs Trey Amburgey and even Billy Burns are looking good. Even with 13 players on the IL, The Yankees have a potent lineup.
With the Didi Gregorious and CC Sabathia beginning the season on the IL, the Yankees created a roster prone to high risk. Who didn’t expect Greg Bird, Troy Tulowitzki and Jacoby Ellsbury to spend much of the season on the IL? Also, both Gary Sanchez and Giancarlo Stanton have histories of being oft-injured..
Exactly.
Ford had a 3 hr game in AAA already this year
The key is AAA. There are countless stories of players who are very successful AAA hitters, but can’t handle major league pitching. Let’s wait to see how Ford does before we say it will work.
Or even more commonly, players who come up on fire, but can’t adjust as pitchers and teams get a book on them.
It wouldn’t surprise if he had some success to begin, question is can he keep adapting.
I had week 4 in the Bird IL pool!
Vegas had odds on him going down in ST slipping on a snow cone.
I would have taken that action
If this truly is Bird’s bye bye… He can start his clock to his surefure hall of Fame vote.
I feel bad for the kid cuz the Yankees haven’t done him any favors by forcing his existence on the major league roster. Hear me out before you rip me, but the kid has skills. Or had them when he was coming up a couple of years ago. Then the injury bug hit and he’s basically lost 2 years of development time at a critical age, and at the hardest level of the game. The Yankees, imo humble opinion at least, should have let this kid play everyday in the minors after he got back from injury. I think they put him in a much tougher position by having him face MLB pitching (and pressure) after missing so much time on the DL. I still believe in the skills, and think the best thing for him is to regain confidence in his swing playing every day in the minors.
Get rid of him !
So is this a real plantar fascia tear or is the the Joe Maddon version where it is actually a torn up knee and a leg fracture?
You heard it here first.
Miguel Andujar will be the starting first basemen if he regains good enough range and strength this season.
I said something similar earlier, but everyone seems to think 1B requires a skill besides hitting and catching throws.
Ask Cris Carter and Pedro Alvarez how easy it is to play 1B. Sam Horn never found it easy either.
The 1b’s biggest stat is the put out, which is basically them standing on first. And since many times they are relegated to holding runners, they are many times out of position and have fewer fielding chances. Seriously, if you have a 1b that can field, great, but its not the end of the world. It’s not like Catcher, Shortstop or Centerfield, where defense is more important.
Can they still trade Bird for Kluber while he’s on the IL? Indians will have to throw in Lindor too.
And while they’re at the Yankees can throw in their oft-injured wasted salary named Jacoby Ellsbury.
Not for nothing, Ellsbury has a current higher WAR than Chris Davis, but similar salaries.
I do not know why today these players are so fragile, they are made of glass. They even go to the IL for migraine, stress.
Your all-injured NYY starting lineup:
CF Aaron Hicks
SS Didi Gregorius
RF Giancarlo Stanton
C Gary Sanchez
3B Miguel Anduljar
1B Greg Bird
2B Troy Tulowitski
LF Jacoby Ellsbury
DH TBD on 4/23
SP Luis Severino
CL Dellin Betances
I mean what did you guys expect with players like Bird, Tulo and Ells? This is what they do… go on the injury list. Even Stanton has a bit of a history. Paxton will be next. A lot of bad luck for sure, but not with the guys I mentioned. Those should be expected.
Not sure why Ellsbury is in the conversation. No one expected him to play this year. We would rather him on the IL and collect insurance. Regarding Tulo – it was a cheap option any team would have been silly not to take.
I hear if you add ketchup to a clean sock, your foot problems will just go away.
louiebeans and steve chinwood- don’t stop you are correct.
Cash made all the wrong bets this off season when the blueprint was simple. Injuries hurt but had cash signed harper and corbin for 50-55 mil a years instead of happ cc and gardy for 35 we’d be in a much better place. again 20 mil a year for the yanks is like a DD small coffee for even a commoner
bengamin and south beach dummy don’t know what they are typing about and continue to come off poorly with excuses and nonsense. As if Happ’s 8.6 ERA has anything to do with birds IL duty or others. How about gardy and his solid .190 BA?
its a joke. Cash blew the greatest opportunity a GM could ask for.
I’m also on board with you. I’ll take it one step farther. They should have traded Andujar + for a real ace, and not Paxton. Yes also signed Corbin and Harper+. Give me a break on what it would’ve cost, because it’s not these arm chair financial gurus cash.
Thank you.
This team had problems before all the injuries and people just turned a blind eye. We been turning a blind eye on Bird Gardner for years. As I mentioned there was tons of better options out there then bringing these guys back.
This teams home grown talents could have really shined by going out there and spending in the FA markets to put them over the edge. But they went cheap and brought back the dead now most are complaining about the dead.
There were upgrades that could have been made for cash nothing bust cash!
I also said 100 times Gardner is going to be a 3rd out fielder not a 4th. Here we are another year of this guy getting 400 at bats to many.
If anyone of you took the time to see what was out there in the FA market the Yankee could have gotten so much better. But instead what they did was slap crap against that wall and see what stuck.
I will never stop until Gardner and Bird are off this teams for once and all.
The elephant has been in the room all offseason and he’s just gotten bigger.
They still continue to bat Gardner first too. It just never FN ends with this team.
well- one down and one to go….put happ in there as well….stupid stupid stupid signing…
I concur with all three of you. Cashman knew by being cheap Gardner would be in Left since Stanton is better suited for DH, and Frazier was a huge question mark. The Yankees are the most profitable franchise in MLB, and one if not the most profitable in all of North America. Why is it that some people on here worry about what the Yankees spend. Better to have too much than what they have now, not a damn nuff! If fans of other teams complain that the Yankees spend, oh well. Add slogo to the list of clueless.
You do realize even the Yankees have a budget. They are a business. Staying within budget means allocating the available money wisely. No one could have forseen these injuries to this extent. Quit whining about the moves that they did not make (because they weren’t needed then) and, if you want to play GM, tell us what you would do now, with what’s available now.
Yeah, and in another year or two when Judge is earning 20 million in arbitration, and Gregorious, betances, sanchez,etc. Sometimes GMs need to think of future expenditures, even if they are the limitless cash Yankees.
All for cash
Geeson, I am sure Paxton was on that list until his night tonight. Way to early in the season to call it a wash. Yankees had 5 solid OF with the possibility of Ells, why would they sign Harper? We are not even a month into a season that has 5 months left.
So you’re gonna question his list as too soon, but turnaround and mention one start. Geeson has been warning of these things since before the season.
Thank you cereal!
Luc-
1. you will note the time stamp pre-dates the first pitch and that i comment further down here during the game about how happy I am about beating down Boston.
2. I never blasted the Pax deal once, just noted that he is not enough and is not a #1 guy. I stand by my comments that at best he is a number 2 and likely a 3. after 4 starts which is early that is exactly what he is.
3. I suppose you like the other fools think cash did a great job this off season- so far all the warnings and concerns expressed by intelligent folks like me, cereal, louie, Steve and others are far more accurate than not.
4. i would love to be wrong but how exactly is not having corbin and Harber or Machado good for the Yankees????
3. what warnings did you see that expressed there was going to be 12 people on the IL not even a month into the season?? him not overspending to fill already filled positions just because their better than their bench options?
4. short term, the benefits are clearly there, long term they didnt make sense
cashman didnt do great this offseason but he didnt do terrible just because he didnt spend +$400MM to fill an already filled position (both 3B, SS was filled by Andujar and Didi so Machado didnt make sense and the OF only needed depth so the team that scored the 2nd most runs per game on average in 2018 definitely did not need another corner OF for $300MM) and overpay a pitcher. but ohhh your sooo intelligent lmao. if there wasnt 12 players on the IL (half the starting lineup, their ace, and a key reliever) then you would have nothing to say right now. We just got over the era of Yankees baseball that was plagued by too many expensive long term deals that worked in the short run but was painful to sit through in the long run and you dummies want to go right back because your collective IQ is still in the double digits. Pass over your crystal ball bro i want to start making some superbowl bets and i need to know every injury. Have you ever considered that maybe the Yankees want to be in a good position to extend their core players and that overspending by committing to 10+ year contracts really hamper the ability to extend said players?
If the projected opening day OF was Tauchman, Gardner, Judge, then we’d all would have been clamoring for someone like Harper. But it wasnt.
what does IL have to do with Gardy batting under .200 and Happ being a disaster? why did they bother to sign an old broken down 38 year who is bound to sit on the DL? why plan on relying on Tulo?
Those 4 players are being paid 35 million this year (and Tulo is practically free). That they are on the IL or poor performers required only eyes and an IQ over 60.
The Yankees are worth 4.6 billion and raked in nearly 650 million last year. They spend less of a percentage of their revenue on payroll than the Rays do.
So, since you are so smart what does 18 million bucks matter (the difference between the 4 non-difference makers i list above and the 2 he should have signed-Harper and Corbin)?
That sanchez and stanton and seve are on the IL hurts. Even Betances and Hicks. I get it. its sucks.
However- you make zero sense. Cashman spent a fortune on depth and players that are immaterial. The difference between tuchman and gardy for example is absolute zero since neither are good.
long term money would be an issue for most teams but the Yankees spend 225 million every year, so why not just spend it wisely? and I will say it- Harper is better than any position player including Judge, Macahdo is better and younger than Didi, and corbin would right now be staff ace on the team.
those are facts
geeson..Begamin is the last guy to seriously discuss anything about baseball. This is the guy that is still riding on the Greg Bird train, how pathetic is that.
He rambles about spending money, but at the same time says “Cashman didn’t do a great job this offseason” which is it, is bringing back CC and Gardner good or bad? Was signing Happ good or bad? We know the answer is no.
As far as those long term commitments go the money they used on those three could’ve been used like you said toward Harper, Corbin, and Machado. What is it with these mental midgets crying about money? If the Yankees would’ve spent on big players they’d be whistling a different tune. The Red Sox sure have been spending, and they got rings. Damn dummies.
so true! Thanks
+Steven “the fool” Chinwood
Im riding the Bird train? How? I never said he was going to become a superstar. Hell, I even talk about how he looks lost at the plate and his timing has been awful this season in a different post on this same article!
The Yankees offseason I rated a B on the poll (on their offseason review article). Its not black and white. Its a mix between good and bad. Signing depth in Gardner was good, the amount they paid him was too much, although it was not a large amount. The CC signing is good. He is a #3-#4 SP getting the minimum market value for any SP. He was very cheap this offseason. I didnt like the Happ signing. I wanted the Yankees to take the chance on Kikuchi and although I really liked Corbin, the Nats outbid everyone (including the ‘stupid spending’ Phillies) by $40MM. The Red Sox are so strapped they cant even afford a closer, btw.
You are losing your mind if you actually think that just because the Yankees have 12 players on the IL that it justifies thinking the Yankees shouldve signed Harper or Machado when practically no one outside Ben Heller and Didi was on the IL.
The only reason those signings would make sense is if they didnt have the 2nd best offense in the league. They currently dont because of injuries, but no one could have predicted that, so get off your high horse Mr. DurrHindsight2020IsAlliKnow
+geeson
“so why not spend it wisely”
Thats exactly the point I’m making. Neither a Harper or Machado signing would have been wise unless you knew about all the injuries 2 months before they happened. They were players the Yankees already had filled. The Yankees only needed depth on offense going into the 2019 season, not two $300MM players. I wouldve been ok if he spent more on pitching and let Happ walk. His offseason wasnt perfect, I already stated that.
Harper is definitely not better than Judge. Offensively, maybe, but Harper has been inconsistent whereas Judge has been consistent and Judge is leagues ahead of a defender than Harper. Spending $25MM more for a slight improvement over Didi is maybe the stupidest thing you can do when starting pitching has been the issue for years.
You could make the argument that overpaying Corbin could potentially be worth it in the end. but dawg we just got over the era of an overpaid aging Yankees team and youre sitting here wondering why they arent committing the same mistakes that lead them to that era.
The mistake you, and many others, keep making is that you love to compare $300MM players to the Yankees depth players. Every team, even the best teams, have crappy depth players that arent as good as $300MM players. Its just how it works.
Again if the Yankees had nothing but Tauchman and Gardner as starters in the OF and Urshela in the IF, I wouldve been clamoring for Harper and Machado too. But those players werent starters on the projected 2019 opening day roster. The only reason theyre starters on this team is because of an insane amount of injuries to starting players.
Get a grip, you and the doofus Chinwood
last time getting through to you on this
1. congrats to gardy and happ for proving us wrong last night. I hope they keep doing it. Am highly doubtful but would love it.
2. no one is comparing adding FA super stars to depth but you
3. How blind can you be to not see the folly of passing on 29 year old corbin vs 37 year old happ over 6 mil a year and 3 years??? SP will only become more expensive.
4. the Yanks needed harper. He’s a lefty and 26……
5. im no fan of manny but he’s 3 years younger than didi and not sitting home playing PS4 and rehabbing…….plus how much will cash pay didi a year???
The Yankees would be a better team if cash made better/right moves this off season injuries or not. he bet on old broken horses and its showing….That’s my point and my other point which you never debate b/c you know i am right is about the yankee financial might…
geeson trying to get your point across with Begamin is just not worth your trouble. This is the guy that has been on this site claiming Greg Bird is just so close to putting it all together. You can take what he said about Bird last July and it mirrors the babble he spouted last week. Things about timing (like a dummy would know), and they can’t give up on Bird with so few at bats. Cashman made some bad enough decisions this offseason by going cheap, but if he listened to dummies like this the Yankees would never compete. Neither you or I have talked about depth spending, but for some reason this Gomer keeps rambling on about it. Mark my words if Bird returns next month (which I’ll bet the farm he won’t) Begamin will be spitting out his old uninformed narrative.
Thanks and well said.
I did enjoy beating a downtrodden Sox team the past 2 nights though. Hopefully they can keep it up and beat other crap teams down as well…
Bringing back Brett Gardner and Greg Bird = The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
How do you figure? Gardner has been solid for the Yankees, is a great defensive option, and is a good veteran presence. Bird wasn’t “brought back” Voit was the clear choice before the season. It is good for healthy competition.
“Gardner has been solid for the Yankees” No he hasn’t been since 2017. “and is a good veteran presence” one of the most generic sayings in sports, right up there with great clubhouse guy. How do you figure “Bird wasn’t brought back”, is he there?
In the big picture, the Yankees faintly hoped to get something from Jacoby Ellsbury but didn’t bank on it. Brett Gardner is the 4th -5th OF option behind Judge, Hicks, Frazier and Stanton (2017 RF GG deserved). Gardner has speed and can play the OF well. I’d say that he’s is the best 4th-5th OF in MLB and I don’t understand the angst concerning him. What do you suggest the Yankees other 4th OF acquisitions could have been or are you just criticizing from the safe region afar?
Ask the “fried chicken in the clubhouse Red Sox”, about the importance of having a good veteran presence on the team.
a solid .200 hitter yes?
Dude it cracks me up when you refer to that guy as south beach dummy. All I can think of is Fred Sanford saying it.
Thanks- his rhetoric this off-season was ridiculous. now that the acquisitions and non acquisitions that he tried to brutalize us for questioning have come to fruition he’s dead silent.
Look- i hope the ship gets righted and we have a parade. I just don’t understand Cash’s moves the past two years..
Both of you are right about him, and some others. Like this guy stymeedone who’s worried about a budget. If they would’ve brought in quality they wouldn’t be in this boat. Who cares about how much they spend.
Bird is a lost cost, but two years seems to be cherry picking
I’m not a Cashman fanboy, but he made some really good moves the past few years; Didi, Torres, and Clint Frazier turned out to be great moves, So was the trade that brought Frazier, robertson and kahnle a few years back. LeMahieu and Ottavino look to be good moves so far.
Anybody know if Bird even made contact during BP this year?
Let’s hope this is the begging of the Ford era a successful era and please let it be the end of the bird era the era that never begun.
Yankees should cut bait on Greg Bird let him go on some other teams IL
yes please
IF he is actually gonna be out a month than when he returns it should be to AAA. That’s IF he’s actually gonna be out for a month, because you never know with this guy. More than likely he won’t see another pitch as a Yankee.
As is tradition
I was calling for the Yankees to sign Moustakas, Jose Iglesais, Lemahieu, Corbin and Harper. Moose would have split time between first and third. With Andujar getting hurt he would be the 3B. Torres at short, DJ at second. Iggy as utility. Judge, Stanton and Harper rotating at the corner OF and DH. CF was Hicks. Frazier as 4th OFer.
CC is 7th on the team in WAR… one start and he’s one of the top players. His WAR is twice that of Torres, who’s played in 15 games.
Torres WAR is the same as Stanton’s… 15 games compared to 3. WAR is a garbage stat.
It is for 15 games. For 450 games its the most accurate predictor of future performance we have.
It takes 450 games to be accurate? So, according to WAR, we aren’t sure if Torres or Andujar are decent players or not?
Agreed. WAR isn’t a metric. It breaks a basic rule of statistics on overfitting your model to the data set. It is also a metric developed to basically beg the question. Like whoever developed it figured if Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds come out on top, it is good. That’s why the metric breaks down when you try using it in the deadball era. The stat goes nuts.
In other news water is wet.
Well, no. But I get it.
I’m sure the O’s would trade Chris Davis if they needed a 1B
He is 4 for 13 with a HR since Sunday.
I really like that one…lol
Looks like Mike Ford is already at legend level
May as well put him straight on the 60 day DL. He won’t be back before the break.
The first of many trips to the IL this season for sure. Bird is about as healthy as Wilford Brimley.
Am thrilled about the beating they are giving Boston right now!
It’s great respite from their troubles
Bird Hurt? No way
Next you’re gonna tell me pablo Sandoval is lazy
Greg Bird = Elijah Price
In other words the sky is blue, water is wet, Greg bird is injured.
I want to like bird but it’s time to give up on him .send him to the minors he can get injured down there.
Why don’t the Yaks just release Ellsbury? He’s a wasted roster spot.
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Is there any advantage of keeping Ellsbury? I would release him, and I do not think anyone would even pick up his contract like the Yanks picked up Tulo.
Not going to release while on the DL- they have insurance on him and they its paying most of his salary.
Great answer…thank you…but if I was working for the Insurance Carrier awww poobah!
Bird is def gone. And 1B is THE position that will be targeted at the trade deadline. Maybe a ToddFather reunion?!