6:40pm: Despite his connection to Machado, Showalter is not currently in the mix to become the next manager, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune writes.
1:05pm: Padres star third baseman Manny Machado is “letting it be known he would like [the] Padres to at least take a look at” his former skipper Buck Showalter, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney writes on Twitter. Showalter managed Machado for seven seasons in Baltimore.
It’s somewhat unusual to hear of a player suggesting a possible managerial hire. But Machado inked a $300MM deal to join the San Diego organization last winter, so he and the club are joined at the hip for ten seasons (barring intervening developments). That whopping contract perhaps gives him an unusual level of standing in the Padres franchise. And there’s no hint here that he’s demanding Showalter be the chosen candidate.
Showalter would certainly suit the Padres’ desire for an experienced helmsman. The 63-year-old is a grizzled veteran of twenty MLB seasons as a manager. A notably old-school presence around the diamond, Showalter has certainly still had success in the modern game. His O’s teams outperformed expectations and had a notable run of success from 2012 through 2016. After sitting out a year, Showalter is obviously itching to get back at it, as he has previously expressed interest in interviewing for the Mets opening.
At this point, it isn’t known whether Showalter is a realistic candidate for the Padres — or even whether they’ll seriously consider him at all. But it stands to reason the club would at least take a look, particularly now that its highest-paid player has made his preference known.
Maybe Manny will hustle more for Buck…
He doesn’t hustle enough with the bucks he’s getting….
Can’t run with all those Benjamins in his pockets weighing him down
Maybe he put all of his money into the gold chains he wears…man they must be heavy.
Ouch. Truth is if he presented as the article suggests, I take it a sign of maturity.
Or he just knows he can continue to dog it for the guy he knows as opposed to rolling the dice on the guy he doesn’t know.
He got basic money last season
He will finally get part of the real payday this year..
Nice take. I was for the first time looking for a positive sign from a dirty player whose history is out there for others to see and you bring me back to reality. Thanks Polish Hammer.
Haha!
Great comment
If they are letting Manny Machado run the Padres they are really screwed.
He influenced them to keep Tatis and Paddack on the opening day roster…..that worked out OK.
A decision that is now looking like nothing short of a disaster
Yes, if anything Manny and Hosmer proved that players should run all the teams, these dinosaurs that take up like 75% of front office job are all clueless.
Huh?
The experience these 2 got will help us in 2020 and on.
Did you seriously want these 2 in El Paso?
And don’t say we lost a year of control.
We won’t let these guys go so it’s a non issue.
@Show Me Your Tatis And exactly why is that a disaster? You have two young players that now know they can compete at the highest level and a team that will know do their best to nurture two key pieces of their future. Sounds like a win win.
@mrpadre19 The experience they gained in the first two weeks of the season will not have any effect at all on their level of play (or the team’s as a whole) in 2020 and beyond. Not. One. Bit.
And it is not the Padres FO’s prerogative to “let” or “not let” them do anything.
@soithbeachbully it’s a disaster because they threw control of both players’ 2025 seasons into the garbage for absolutely no return. Unless you are trying to tell me that both players would have been busts if the team had waited two weeks to call them up.
…or the other narrative is that the Padres earned their trust by not playing the control game with them. Ease up. They’ll both have long contracts before you even have to sweat about 2025.
“They’ll both have long contracts before you even have to sweat about 2025.”
Can you tell me some solid bets to make since you know the future?
Also, the Padres earned Paddack and Tatis’ trust… that they’ll do what?
It’s obvious. Don’t be a @%#%. The trend is to sign young talent early. If it doesn’t happen, it would be a major surprise.
They earned trust so they’ll sign. Duh.
Who says Tatis will allow them to sign him early? And who says that he wouldn’t have allowed them to sign him early even if they had held him down for the first two weeks? The Giants, White Sox and Braves manipulated the service time of Buster Posey, Eloy Jimenez and Ronald Acuña. That didn’t stop them from signing team friendly extensions. If Tatis was amenable to that, it would stop it with him either.
And again. They earned his trust… That they’ll do what?
Haha big boy no wun!! He no wun Cause he thinks he swingsy good. Yes, yes swingsy good, very good, but once swingsy then need to wun wun 1st basiman chase after him ball get him if no swingsy THEN wun
wtf?
What part of “big boy no wun” did you not get? Swingsy good no wun is not how you play the game! Hahaha
Good job
This
Not in the cotton uniforms Buck will bring with him. Manny will be running like a penguin.
That’s why Manny wants Buck as his manager, because Buck never called him out on it. Not once. Not ever.
The Padres should hire the person who can further develop the young kids and who isn’t afraid to hold Machado accountable for dogging it running to first, turning an extra base hit into a long single or his occasional blunder in the field.
You committed 300mil to the guy. I don’t think he’s gonna care much what someone says whether they are young or old.
Says, maybe not. But these guys are competitive, so a benching might send a message.
Showalter would fit that description.
Quiet burns
The Padres should make it known that they would at least like Manny Machado to take a look at producing at an acceptable level before making demands
exactly
Demands?
Did you even bother reading the article?
He requested, not demanded. What’s so audacious about that where it warrants a potshot? Another way to view it might be reuniting with a manager he’s comfortable with might cause an uptick in his production, if you feel it’s unacceptable.
Fun fact: your idea of an “acceptable level” is idiotically high. Manny was worth 3 wins last year, that’s all-star level, here:
less than 0 WAR: bad to terrible
0-1: borderline replacement/bad
1-2: decent regular but no star
2-3: borderline star
3-4: all-star
5+: mvp-vote-getting/elite
Manny cleared 3 this year, that’s exactly what the Padres paid for. If you literally think players “deserve” contracts though, then youre always going to be wrong to begin with, so there’s that. You might want to accept you have absurdly high standards for high paid players before moving on.
Their standards are high cause they bought a cadillac for a Lamborghini price
S4 you just misquote or do not understand the stuff you read at all. It has to be a comprehension issue or it’s a selective reading issue. Even if you based Machado’s production on their $/WAR valuation he’d come up short. Teams do not pay 30 million dollars for 3 win players. 3 WAR doesn’t cost 30 million on the open market. To suggest it does is idiotic.
And why you choose to make up your own interpretation of things I’ll never know. The guys at FanGraphs use the formula of their choosing and literally give you their interpretation of WAR numbers. Yet you somehow can misconstrue that into your own interpretation which doesn’t line up with what the guys who created the formula say….. maybe you ought to read more and say less. Or ask more questions.
library.fangraphs.com/misc/war/
Umm, the Padres were not happy with his production, and some in the organization have questioned his interest in playing seeing as his production took a nose dive shortly after the Padres season collapsed in early July. If members of an organization in a major market were questioning the character of the newly signed face of the franchise it would have been bigger news. Manny has gone on record about his first season in San Diego. This was all covered in the San Diego Star Trib on Sep 29 in an article titled “Manny Machado reflects on his disappointing first season with Padres, addresses whether he gave up”.
Machado belted 32 homers, drove in 85, and scored 81 times on a bad team. I mean are they upset that he didn’t hit .300?
They signed a guy who played 81 homes games a year in a slightly hitter friendly ball park, in Camden Yards, to play 81 games a year in the more spacious Petco Park. They surround him with overpaid, under-producing talents like Hosmer and Myers; guys who this SD franchise signed, mind you. Machado STILL goes on to have a really great year at the dish. Yet SOMEHOW this franchise is disappointed in HIS production?!
Of course his overall numbers are going to take a bit of a hit from years past. Every indicator is there to signal that. If the Padres brass were blindsided by this then it’s fairly obvious why the team is bad.
Machadres. We have Kinsler for 1 more season right let him manage lol jk.
Hahaha. If Kinsler is willing to cuss at fans from the field, I’m sure he could “motivate” the players…
I do have serious character concerns about Ron Washington. The guy seems to be on a 5-year cycle of doing bad things and he’s overdue for another bad decision…
Showalter might want some control over things like park dimensions, the dude is smart about that stuff, right? Arizona is a good field, I think.
Yes and that dumb decision would be to helm the Padre dumpster fire.
Anybody hear Showalter doing color commentary on the Yankees games last week? Not sure he’s cut out for the analytics era….
what he say?
From an interview with Showalter, he mentioned that managers that don’t embrace new ways of thinking and managing, don’t usually last long.
Actually what I was reacting to more was that he kept insisting he could gauge talent and effort and quality of character from how various’ players’ faces looked. He kept praising or wondering about players’ drive and skill set and potential based on their faces and the other commenter, I think it was Michael Kay, was clearly confused and weirded out and just kinda rolled with it. I get it. Studies have proven attractiveness or physical appeal can be a major deciding factor in an otherwise equitable hiring decision situation. Humans gravitate toward other humans they’re comfortable with. Attractiveness tends to equal comfort. I’m convinced there are exceptionally talented, driven and personable people who don’t have a Face For Television but a Face For Radio and it affects how people judge their personality and actual skill sets, skill sets independent of attractiveness or ‘physical qualities’.
It was just weird. I mean, sports has always described its players with a bit of a skeevy objectifying viewpoint, like a hot body contest or something. That’s what I was alluding to.
Regardless of what Machado wants, the Padres should still take a long look at Showalter and do their due diligence. He’s got a track record of working and developing young talent. Padres have a group of good, young players (and more coming). Definitely need a manager who can help them develop.
I wanted the White Sox to sign Machado just as much as anyone else, but man, I think they dodged a bullet with this guy
That’s why I was so glad the Phillies went hard after Harper. Philly would’ve eaten Machado alive for his lack of hustle. I’m surprised you fans in SD can deal with it so well.
life in San Diego is probably less stressful than philly lol…more laid back ‘it’s cool, whatever’ mentality…and yes I’m jealous ha!
This is why people love watching Philadelphia sports struggle.
Yes, because they’re fans are passionate and knowledgeable and care about effort. They can handle the lack of success if they know the guy lays it out on the field of play.
Why? He forced them to play Tatis on Opening Day, and he proved him right? He said “at least take a look at this legendary manager whos currently on the market” – to you that’s “dodging a bullet”??? Wow you are a brain surgeon aint ya, Chi-town? LOL
Better him than Washington or Ausmus
Ausmus is such a perfect Padres hire. I can see the presser now “He won us over in the interview”
Why not Washington?
Tatis Jr getting Wash infield instruction. He’d be the best defensive SS for a decade.
agreed
Wash would be a great 3B coach for the Padres. Just not the manager. He is vocally against analytics in baseball, something winning teams are all in on. He has had many personal issues that would not play well in the clubhouse for a manager. He is 67 years old.
Whatever you say outinleftfield burns
Cocaine, extramarital affairs, not analytically inclined and frankly, the Preller-Rangers connection had already been beaten to death like 2 years ago.
Whats wrong with cocaine and extra marital affairs?
His personal issues seem to be behind him and I’m in favor of second chances but I wasn’t aware of his aversion to analytics.
@Ironman_4life Literally everything
There’s nothing wrong with it
Why does every little thing regarding the Padres seem to get leaked to the press? Over the least few years we must have heard 100 times how they were going to trade for a starting pitcher, yet they never did. Then Ron Fowler is bumping his gums about heads rolling and now they have a new candidate to manage every day. Why doesn’t this front office quiet down and focus on winning some ball games.
We have like the fewest leaks of most teams. No one knew we were in on meija last year, Trammel this year.
No one knew the Padres were in on Machado until the last minute.
Doesn’t seem smart for them to hire him. No disrespect to him, but he’s not gonna make them into anything special. And honestly, until their front office sets a consistent long term plan. I don’t see them being good anytime soon
So you’re saying that signing Myers, Hosmer & Machado and rebuilding at the same time is not a consistent long term goal? LOL
How about starting the service clock on Paddack and Tatis to start 2019 like a contender then trading away MLB talent for more prospects at the deadline like a rebuilder? LOL
This team spends most of it’s time figuring out how the square pegs go into the round holes.
Disagree with all this, except that I think FO has the long term plan: keep (even add) prospects and supplement with signings.
Preller has always been a con.
Sure, they have sensational prospects….so many of them that they can’t be counted on 2 hands. Which is why they overpaid for Myers, Hosmer, and Machado…..because, see, they have so many quality prospects. Which is why they traded their young starting RF and a few other prospects for one Reds prospect that hit .234 in AA this season…cause they have so many can’t-miss sensational prospects.
That RF is a DH
The Padres also have an exceptionally successful player development program. The minor league teams won titles in 2017-2019. The farm system as a whole is ranked at or near the top in plate discipline (OBP, out of zone swing%, and K%). Their whole problem has been translating Preller’s success in developing the young players into success in the majors. 2020 is year 5 of the rebuild and they need to win now. A new manager needs to be able to continue that great job Preller’s player development program has done in the minors when those players get to the majors.
“But Machado inked a $300MM deal to join the San Diego organization last winter, so he and the club are joined at the hip for ten seasons (barring intervening developments).”
LOL
Rest assured that the “intervening developments” will come to pass.
For anyone that thinks Machado will play out that contract in San Diego, I can get you in as part-owner of the Brooklyn Bridge…..but it’ll cost you some.
Machado and his reps will be demanding a trade as soon as he figures out that the San Diego Padres have no more of a chance to be a real pennant contender for 10 years, then they do of contending in 2020.
Manny wants the spotlight. He’s playing in a town for a 2nd division team that starts their games when Americans in the East and Midwest go to sleep. America has already lost track of him….and it’s for the good.
We can debate the Padres’ odds of contending in the next 10 years some other time. Someone has to actually be willing to trade for Machado for a trade to occur. They can’t force other teams to take his contract, a contract that they weren’t interested in giving out when he was a free agent and cost no prospects (not even a draft pick). He hasn’t exactly done anything to ease whatever concerns other teams might have had about committing $300m to him.
Show Me Your Tatis;
Great point!
But when the time comes, the Padres will have to eat a good portion of that contract. Same as with Myers (today) and Hosmer. Heck if The Manny Man is going to take one cent of a pay cut.
They aren’t going to do that when they have literally no one else who can play 3rd base unless you count Ty France and maybe Hudson Potts a year or two down the road.
Come ‘on.
With the player movement in MLB? Where teams change their roster 3-5 times a week during the season.
You don’t think they can sign a FA that can play 3B, or trade for one when the time comes?
Seriously?
The Mariners somehow found a way to get rid of Cano, so it’s possible.
“Manny” is short for General Manager.
GenMan sounds like some new age sexual identity.
Badda Bing!
These two deserve each other and a trade involving Hosmer for Davis would be delightful
Buck would be a very good hire. Please no Ausmus!
the padres will hire Ausmus, why, because he’s a loser and he’ll come cheap..
I think Manny found playing for Green was a bit of a come-down from playing for Buck. No shame in that; most managers are a come-down from Buck. As Tito Francona once said, “Never think I can out-prepare Buck Showalter; I need to sleep 2 hours a night”.
That doesn’t mean Buck’s a GREAT manager, but he’s a pretty good one. If he wins 80 games with your team, you can be pretty confident that you weren’t going to win any more with a different manager; you’d likely win fewer. And there aren’t a lot of managers you can say that about.
I still think Showalter fits best with the Mets, since the media in NY won’t bother him; he’s used to them, and is at a point in his life that he probably doesn’t care. That said, I can see him in SD also.
Great analysis. Mets or Padres would be a good fit for Showalter. Maybe the Cubs but they aren’t that young, upcoming team like they were when Maddon took over.
Cubs likely looking for a stooge. Someone that reports and listens to the Front Office.
Say hello to Manny “LeBron” Machado…
I met an actual Padres fan last night.
We still can’t find any Indians fans. Couldn’t even find them in the ballpark during the season.
Well, if I lived there, instead of SoKal, I would go to a game. Maybe even two.
You would be in the minority. 7500 less people per game attended Indians games than Padres games and the Indians were in the playoffs last season and expected to win the Central this season.
Cleveland is a football town and no one goes to the Indians games even when they win. A sad reality for the few die hard Indians fans out there. You will always be watching baseball games in empty ballparks.
If you live in SoCal, come to Angels games. We always have a full house.
And drive on the 91? No, thanks. I’d rather remove my fingernails than do that.
Actually, I’ve been to many games there. But that freeway has gotten so bad to drive that I’d rather not. I live in San Bernardino, so there’s always the 66ers, but they’ve been horrible for the last two years.
Wait…Cleveland is a football town?? They need to prioritize or get a hobby!
But has anyone seen a Rays fan in the regular season?
I’d like this move. Buck is a great manager and should be managing a team
As a veteran and highest paid player I would hope he is making recommendations. Weird how some read that as him “demanding” or “running the Padres”. I would hope vets like Hosmer also have recommendations.
Machado leads the NL in GinDP and batted .256? Why his advice is wanted? I understand neither has anything to do with his suggestions. ‘Buck’ coddled Manny. It is this entitlement some feel they earn because they draw a breath. You know what burns my arse – fire about this high.
I had some scorpion pepper cheese that REALLY burned my arse. Should have partaken in moderation.
If Acuna and Machado had a race to 1st Base who would win?
Harper or Machado, better signing???
Machado
Great, so angels will get maddon, mets will get giarardi, padres will get buck, and phils will have waited to long and pick someone else who will disappoint me.
I love how upset everyone gets because a baseball player expressed a preference. God forbid!
Manny wants Buck to manage because Buck never called out Machado for his lack of hustle. Not once, not ever.
He sat him once for lack of hustle. In the middle of a game.
Acee said it, so Buck will be announced as Padres manager tomorrow. J/K, but Acee is wrong far more often than he is right.
I feel for Padres fans. Machado was an excellent ball player for his first few years. Then he turned into an entitled head case. He doesn’t hustle, takes plays off, and can’t stop stupid comments from coming out of his trap. You got a shell of the player he once was. Sorry San Diego.
Sincerely,
An Orioles fan
Who would you rather have as 3b,: Manny or his replacement in Baltimore, Renato Nunez?
Manny ‘s Stats are first, then Renato’s
2019 Stats
M R
At Bats 587 541
Runs 81 72
Hits 150 133
Singles 95 77
Doubles 21 25
Triples 2 0
Home Runs 32 31
RBI 85 90
Walks 65 44
Strikeouts 128 143
Batting Average .256 .246
On Base Pct .334 .312
Slugging Pct .462 .464
On-base Plus Slugging .796 .776
Manny is, of course, a far better fielder and a better hitter but $30 million a year vs Renato’s $562,000…
Renato also started about 10 games at 3B. That’s not an apt comparison in anyway. He was largely a DH and occasional 1B. If you read Renato Nunez’s baseball card it might have him listed as a 3B but that’s the only place he was a 3B.
Did Preller and Showalter have a frosty relationship in Texas? Not advocating hiring Buck, but San Diego isn’t even considering him? His work merits an interview.
Preller isn’t smart enough to hire someone like Showalter. All he does is win. Plus the Padres are on the cheap on managers while they throw away $$ at Meyers and Hosmer.
Jayce Tingler
Is that your pick?
Jayce would be a terrible choice. He does not have the pedigree that the Padres players are going to need in a new manager. He has neither played in the majors or managed anywhere. No basis for respect from the get go. He is Green all over again. If he becomes the new Padres manager, then Preller will be looking for a new job a year from now.
Give a one-year win or be fired edict to Preller and his buddy.
Win now or lose another generation of fans.
Showalter deserves another chance!
i think showalter would be a good manager for san diego but i would like to see the mets hire him as manager
So they’re not even going to consider Buck because they have their sights set on Jayce Tingler!? Seriously, that rates right up there on the stupidest of stupid decisions that Preller has made. How do this guy have a job he’s so clearly not qualified for? Are there any other jobs open on the Padres that I could apply for,, being that I’m also unqualified?