The St. Louis Cardinals have “multiple” new positive tests for COVID-19, according to a report from MLB insider Robert Murray. The exact number of positive tests isn’t yet known.
The news marks the third consecutive day the Cardinals have discovered more than one new positive test result, with the team discovering as many as five new cases among players and staffers yesterday. Those results were accompanied by a number of inconclusive tests, so it’s possible that positive tests today shed light on those unclear results. Because of the outbreak within the Cardinals organization, this weekend’s series with the Brewers was postponed.
The Cardinals’ next game is scheduled for Tuesday in Detroit, though that arrangement seems to be in jeopardy in light of the burgeoning virus among the Cardinals.
The Cardinals appear to have found themselves in a situation not too dissimilar from that of the Marlins, who saw a few positive cases snowball into a much larger, more dire situation within several days. Miami’s club, set to resume play on Tuesday, was out of action for more than a week following the discovery of the initial cases, so if the Cardinals’ situation continues to balloon, the upcoming week of games might go by the wayside.
Thanks for compromising the league by going out to the casinos. Real considerate of you guys.
The casino is the Hollywood Casino Amphitheater in St. Louis that a few guys went to for an outdoor concert over two and a half weeks ago and were required to wear masks and socially distance. Highly doubt this is the reason.
Highly doubt huh? You sound like every other naive individual that puts themselves and others at risk similar to the players in question.
Two and a half weeks ago? Do you know the incubation period of this virus? Does it seem likely? My opinion is that this “casino” rumor isn’t the cause for the outbreak. Can I not have that opinion? Like it’s your opinion that this “casino” visit IS the cause? You some sort of keyboard warrior? Lol.
It wasn’t just Hollywood casino. Some where at Carlyle lake, some were at West County Mall, some were at Schnucks in Ladue. The point is, they are NOT taking this seriously or they don’t care. Between these inconsiderate clowns and the Marlins, the season is in serious jeopardy.
Where is the proof for this? Also, MO said in a Zoom call that they are allowed to leave their hotels and homes as long as it is not in a crowded building. They’re allowed to go outside and socially distanced. They went golfing in Milwaukee. That was confirmed. Cite the source you’re referring to.
Proof???? Do you not watch the news AND read the Post or are you a moron???! I’m gonna go with the latter since you are spewing nonsense and asking for proof that Derrick Goold has reported already.
Also you can Google it, wasn’t hard to find with just a little bit of effort to look. Ugh, you must be one of those who have to be spoon fed. Lazy!!!!
SOMEONE IS MAD!!!!!!!!!! UGH UGH UGH! YOI GO GETTER!
Mad??? Naw! Annoyed with people who give misinformation(you) and don’t have to do too much to get correct information??absolutely!
UGH!!!! SOMEONE IS HAVING A BAD DAY!!!! UGH!! WHAT MISINFORMATION ARE YOU REFERRING TO? GEEZ!!! MAN!! IM SO FLUSTERED!
You sound like every blowhard with an opinion and internet access
With a comment like this, you sound like every other little wuss on the internet who has to step in and make ignorant comments to sound intellectual and hard while hiding behind a phone screen.
You mad bro? Cause your acting like it. I guess idiots like you get flustered easy, go take a Zoloft and a Prozac and stay off the internet for day, I promise your week will get better.
I think we all know who’s mad here. Stop kidding yourself.
Relax dazhk… In fairness, the season happening at all was a stupid, poorly thought out idea to begin with anyway. If it wasn’t these guys, it would be someone else. No sport without a bubble can responsibly pull this off. So take a seat and get a hug from someone.
@bacondive what’s your uniform number? I’m assuming with how vehemently your denying anything suggests you are defending your own actions.
Neither Goold nor the Post-Dispatch have reported that it was players attending a casino.
Jerry Hairston Jr., a former MLB player, claimed that the Cardinals went to a casino, but his tweet only said that he “heard” that a few players went to one. I think there was a fan who posted claiming that they did and had pictures, but he’s never produced them. Blogs and social media picked up on that and ran with it. But no actual report confirming that it happened.
It’s an unconfirmed rumor spread by Twitter.
Hairston tweet: twitter.com/TheRealJHair/status/128957394715599258…
@Chromimw Take a seat?Haven’t stood up yet, I’m not CAP warrior getting upset. You should take your own advice. Sit, shut up, have someone hold you while wish the bad people away.
@Bacondive at least you can admit your upset, I enjoy cap warriors like you implode and look stupid.
You both look stupid with your childish bickering. Shut up and let the adults get back to their conversations please.
Watching the news and reading the Post keeps you from being a moron? No, it actually contributes greatly to one becoming a moron. Be sure to stay glued to the make-believe news smart guy.
Actually, my son plays professionally. They are NOT allowed to go out when they are not playing. I guess the teams that really give a rip are the ones that are taking things seriously. The Cardinals…for whatever reason, thought it was ok to go shopping, or to an “outdoor” concert (how can you possibly social distance or wear a mask at an outdoor venue?) or to casinos. And then they were careless enough to bring the virus back into their clubhouse. The season will be fine. Marlins are getting ready to play again. As long as there are idiots, there will always be positive cases.
Your lame response simply proves my point that you’re a moron who just trolls and doesn’t really have a sensible point with substance to contribute to any conversations. Hope you got that hug you clearly need slugger 🙂
Lol, you think masks actually work
Masks are a global conspiracy eh. American clowns.
@SuperSinker, DTD_ATL does not speak for most Americans. Thankfully.
Yeah like the outdoor drive in concert in the Hamptons where countless fans (hundreds) got out of their cars, violating the protocols in the process
You expect a bunch of self absorbed, wealthy, coddled human beings to give a crap about anybody but themselves???? Please. They got it from somewhere they probably shouldn’t have been.
Probably, probably, probably, literally no one has any idea. People just love the narrative that they got COVID because they went out and got lit at a casino or got it at a grocery store, golfing. Every team is just as liable to get the rona.
@dazhk – there has been speculation about how the Cardinals and Marlins caught the virus but zero proof so far.
There is zero proof but I do not think for a second they are taking this seriously. When your out and about taking pics with fans , yes there is proof of this, what kind of message does give fans???
@dalrob, are you taking about politicians?
who cares , you all are acting like a bunch of slave owners, are they suppose to go to work and home only, get out of here with that nonsense
I wonder if they were breaking any protocols in the clubhouse and going to crowded bars like Miami
They all supposedly went out partying to a casino
Manfred should have started the season off by saying if anyone broke protocol, they would either be suspened or fined.
Good point @mlb1225, in retrospect there should have been some clear monetary punishment for breaking quarantine. I would have guessed that the players wouldn’t need something like that and would understand the importance of being compliant but baseball players aren’t the smartest bunch clearly
This “casino” you’re referring to is actually the Hollywood Casino Amphitheater in St. Louis that a few players went to for an outdoor concert over two and half weeks ago. Highly doubt that’s the cause here.
You do not know that for a fact @Bacondive, as the specifics of the casino situation has not been confirmed at this point. Even if that is what is rumored, it is silly to act as though it is fact at this point
EVERYONE is acting as if this “casino” rumor is fact. Calm the hell down Nancy boy.
You just keep acting like you know what the hell you are talking about and I’m finding it hilarious. The fact is the virus is so new that most of what they know is just best guess because there hasn’t been time to really study it.
That’s exactly my point. Why is it that it’s okay for every single person on this page to accuse the Cardinals of a casino visit when they have zero clue what’s going on? I live in St. Louis and have seen the photos of them when they went to this “casino” which is the Hollywood Casino Amphitheater over two and a half weeks ago. Even if they did go a couple days ago, would that be the cause today? Would these positives be the cause? You don’t know either. Everyone is blaming a casino for this outbreak because of Jerry Hairston Jr. heard it somewhere.
I am just here to watch Bacondive comment repeatedly about how everyone else is freaking out.
Congrats.
lol guy is hilarious. Doesn’t like others treating rumors as fact so he creates his own facts. Pathetic
What facts did I create? Tehe you’re such a tough guy hiding behind a phone screen.
I made a calm logical comment that you didn’t seem to disagree with, you seem proceed to tell Me to calm down before trying to insult me just before you go on a 5 comment rant. Get it together man
And the fact that you created is the certainty that the casino incident is the one you describe. For all either of us know, other players went to an actual casino
And I’m not the one here trying to act like a tough guy, stop projecting
Even if they went to a casino because Jerry Hairston Jr., “heard” about it…people were saying it happened in Milwaukee. Would that cause positive tests today? Can we agree that nobody knows anything? The whole country is blaming the possible shutdown of MLB on the Cardinals. It’s proposterous.
@johnrealtime I live in St. Louis as well, if he were to read the post dispatch web site or watch the news he would see several players were out and about yo until the road trip. Hell John Gant and Miles Mikolas were posing with fans while at a local lake here.
The point is…everyone is making claims when they have absolutely zero clue what’s going on. Guaranteed that not every player in the MLB is staying in their hotel rooms every second of the day when not playing or working out. Who’s to say this current outbreak in the Cardinals camp wasn’t from the airplane, or hotel in Minneapolis, or in Milwaukee? Everyone is quick to say it was some casino trip no one has any idea about.
I agree that nobody knows anything here and that was my original point. It’s fine to speculate or whatever but there is no reason to speak of guesswork as fact
bro who cares, sorry some guys on a team got a virus with a 99.3 survival rate by going out living there lives and didn’t let people like you tell them how to live breath and eat
Might want to avoid statements ending in “Nancy boy” makes you sound very close minded and almost transphobic…nah straight up.
Also, unconfirmed rumors. But, feel free to keep spreading rumors.
Um….its a rumor site, smooth brain
Mr. Manfred, the fork you ordered from Amazon is here.
Wright4seaver, your fork comment is the funniest one I’ve seen this season! Thanks for a bit of original, quality satirical humor in all this craziness. You made my wife and I literally Lol. Begin slow clap salute now.
Idk what’s worse the Marlins playing with knowledge of positive tests or the Cardinals players going outside of the bubble and into a casino. Both terrible.
There never has been a bubble for MLB.
There’s no bubble for mlb
I’d go with option C: your post with inaccurate terminology.
Here come the shut it down bozos
You really don’t get what is going on, do you?
Yes….false positives abound while others aren’t getting sick. Seems easy enough. Perhaps you’re missing it.
False postives for viral tests are extremely rare, and are typically caused by contamination of the test. That’s why if there’s a positive, it’s usually confirmed with another test to make sure. Antibody tests, however, had severe false postive issues. Because of that, the antibody tests are no longer used to confirm whether or not somebody has the virus (which they were never supposed to be used in the first place).
How many times per day do you fall down simply because of your stupidity? Be honest now…
Keep Yadi safe!
I hope Gant’s ok too. I just added him for holds.
If there’s a season
Look’s like every game in August for the Cardinals will be a doubleheader. If the season continues.
Why are the opponents being punished? If one team can’t follow rules and would rather go to clubs or casinos, fine. Then their team should forfeit any games they are not allowed to play due to sickness. People don’t seem to care about anyone else’s health, so maybe they might care if the team gets losses because of them.
No one *knows* how the players caught the virus. Maybe it was from a hotel employee or a family member going to the grocery store.
its one thing to get the virus doing something you’d normally do, (i.e. foodstore, restaurant, etc) its another thing getting it going to a club, casino, or bar. its odd that nothing good ever happens at those sort of places.
A blind horse could’ve seen all of this coming. Ridiculous they even tried to a season.
where was the casino? St louis, Milwaukee, or Mpls??
There aren’t any casinos in Minneapolis. they are all on reservations and the closest one to downtown MPLS is about 45min – 1 hr away.
Nord– try a little research Sherlock — Shakopee is a suburb and 20 miles from the city center. Loser. Prior Lake is 30 minutes away.
Casino’s an uncomfirmed rumor. What was confirmed was that some players went golfing in Milwakee, which was an approved activity.
Other than MLB players, who’s gambling and chasing ladies at casinos right now?
Pandemic, guys. Not a hoax
Dumbasses….. dumbasses are gambling and chasing ladies at casinos right now.
Thank you
honestly didnt even know they had opened back up in most places yet.
Hockey and basketball thriving
MLB in the toilet
Done
What this pandemic has proved, both in baseball and the wider world, is that when you live in a society that depends almost entirely on the expectation that human beings will be responsible, while simultaneously giving them the freedom to be irresponsible with impunity, that society will fail. Sooner rather than later.
Those who are most vocal and demanding of a return to their normal lives, are shooting themselves in the foot over and over and delaying normalcy for everyone. Take the blinders off already!
Spoken like a true aspiring authoritarian. Not that it would happen here, but I hope you realize some of the more infamous authoritarian rules in the 20th century used very similar rhetoric.
They won’t get it because they love to be scared and to instill fear in others. It’s their very life force
It’s more of a collective versus individualism view of the world. Most, not all, who often argue for stronger government intervention in whatever have a strong underlying distrust of individualism.
Clueless.. Don’t comment on what you don’t understand. Authoritarian? Do you know who’s an authoritarian? You don’t live in reality and want to make your own rules over the advice of infectious disease experts who have been retained by the last eight administrations. I don’t live in fear but am considerate of others and have managed to stay sane. You’re selfish.
Who’s an authoritarian? The guy in the WH? While I didn’t vote for him to say he fits this description is about as clueless as you can get. How is he authoritarian? Last I saw he can’t even win in federal court, get his own party to do what he wants, or pass legislation he supports. He can’t even get the media to stop calling him an idiot. Such things would never happen in an authoritarian regime.
Let me correct myself. His actions and words indicate a great desire to be an authoritarian.. The people he schmoozes with and sucks up to and obviously admires indicate that as well.
I’m baffled about being called an authoritarian. People are putting up billboards to deter people from wearing masks in any situation.
You are out of your league on this one and don’t understand the concept of authoritarianism. If you understood anything, a better retort would have been that he’s not authoritarian because be live in a separation of power system that defuses power horizontally across the national government and vertically with state governments.
Also, I doubt he really is since the platform of the Republican Party (I’m not a member), centers on reinforcing individualism. The very opposite of authoritarianism.
You need to start reading some academic books on this subject and not on Madcow.
But how the heck do you get that I’m authoritarian? Are you ok with house parties of 700 unmasked people and billboards trying to deter people from ever wearing masks? You made a huge assumption.
Don’t you mean “diffuses”, rather than “defuses”?
We really just need to invest in our school systems in the hopes that our children will grow up to be smarter than Darth Nihilus.
I doubt that will happen given the current success of the system. I ‘m a professor at a major public university and most students, freshman to senior level, have a difficult time writing coherent papers, regardless of race.
Also, I have a Ph.D in statistical modeling so you may need to invest more that you think.
“Much learning does not teach one to have understanding.” If this weren’t an ancient text, I might say that Heraclitus wrote it just for you, Darth Nihilus.
I also love how, at the end of your condemnation of the writing ability of the entire student body at your university, you include a careless typo. Glass houses and so forth.
I feel considerable empathy for the students who have to interact with you.
No, this is the reality of modern day academia with research and administrative requirements.
Also, point out a typo on a stupid discussion board as a gotcha moment is really high school stuff. I have typos all the time, When you write up 1,000 words a day its always happens. It’s more embarrassing when a reviewer spots one.
“regardless of race”
Weird thing to say, Darth. Pretty weird
That’s academic speak you find in most peer reviewed papers. Sometimes this style of writing follows me other places.
All it means is if you hold all indicators constant at their mean race is an insignificant predictor of writing ability. In other words, nearly all students are bad writers.
Yeah, I work at a university too, and you can stop talking down to people here as if you’re some genius.
It’s hard to imagine an actual professor saying “nearly all students are bad writers” but okay, Darth. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
You may work at a university but my TAs and I have to grade these things. Until you experience this you’ll never understand the disservice many schools subject students too.
Anyway, I’ve had enough of this. I tried to better inform one poster about their misuse of the term authoritarianism and some wanted to fight back.I have an R&R to finish so I need to go (yes, academics often work seven days a week despite not getting paid to publish).
“you’ll never understand the disservice many schools subject students too.” I think you meant to end on “to.”
Professional troll is more like it.
College professors often don’t know the difference between “to” and “too”
Who does DarthKnob think he’s fooling?
Sooo..liberal indoctrination, amirite?
Yea let’s hope our schools can teach our kids to be afraid of everything and to give up their rights at the drop of a hat. Oh wait, we’ve already succeeded!
What this thread misses, while engaging in academic pissing contests (no one cares about your credentials, by the way) and pedantic semantic arguments, is that individualism and authoritarianism aren’t mutually exclusive.
In all honesty if players are proven to have gone out to a casino, the Cardinals should have to forfeit games.
MLB shouldn’t have to bend over backwards rescheduling games if players are just selfish jackwagons.
Casino casino every body is saying casino — what fing casino please? How about some facts.
tmj4.com/news/local-news/cardinals-allegedly-visit…
thats a golf course 90 minutes north of the Milw casino. Try again.
Oh yeah…Fake news.
“Neither of these rumors have been confirmed. However, they are taking Twitter by storm.”
From the linked story.
End this farce
Do you really hate baseball or are you just pretending?
Don’t worry, before long the young and single players on these teams will get it and be smarter and games won’t have to be cancelled as a result.
Just in time for the players with families kids to go back to school…
Why not give the teams that keep testing positive losses for the games that have to be rescheduled? It’s their own fault. Own it.
Countersigned.
NHL has zero positives because the players bought in
At the rate the “war effort” is going, America should have this pandemic kicked by 2023… maybe.
Sports and global viral contagions don’t mix, folks.
I cannot believe the amount of people that are advocating for teams with virus outbreaks having to forfeit games. It’s a virus, you can’t sense it in any way whatsoever and cannot prevent it from infecting you in any way as soon as it gets inside you. It is IMPOSSIBLE to know where a virus infection comes from. Every team is doing things every single day that allow the possibility of infection, especially when they travel or leave their hotel room for any reason whatsoever. You could follow every single protocol and rule to a tee and still expose yourself to the virus ten times over in a single day and have zero knowledge of it.
How in the world does that warrant punishment for a team via forfeits? A grand total of zero people on this earth know how and where the Marlins or the Cardinals initially picked up the virus, and all this speculating is just that: speculation.
It’s the American way to blame people for what they get whether it’s cancer, HIV, COVID, or rooting for a team that never wins.
there is a level of reason though. you’d think people would realize that they can wait to go to a casino or a club until after this is moee under control. its not like these guys just got it doing normal activities. they put themselves in a risky spot and got burnt.
All they had to do is wait until October. It’s August.
They very well could have gotten this from normal activities, that’s the entire point. There has been zero corroborations on the casino claim beyond JHJ, and even if they went, they could have gotten it flying to or from Minnesota, buying groceries, pooping on a hotel toilet that wasn’t quite sanitized correctly, scratching their nose after tying their shoe.
There are these people called “Epidemiologists.”
They would know.
Science. What a concept!
No, they would be able to tell you if you have the virus, not where or when the virus came from in an area smaller than the size of a city and +- a day. Science is great and not enough people understand it, which you aptly demonstrated.
Totally irresponsible behavior by the cardinals
Cheating people of their health….
Joe Kelly? Paging Joe Kelly
I’m guessing the with as many players they have and there history of players getting into trouble. And so few games. And they will be going into colder weather The NFL season won’t last past week 4.
Is the season over yet?
I thought thats what the 60 man roster was for. call up enough players from the minors and quarantine the clowns who were out running around. Maybe them losing a few games would teach them.
Omfg the immature morons are out and about today! There is so much stupidity being spewed on here today! The decision that needs to have the most critical comments made about it is for MLB and the money grab type of season they were trying for here. The players well being was never their main concern or even a secondary concern of there’s. They wanted to get the small amount of season that they could in before something inevitable like this happened then they could go ahead and blame these young players for being at fault. Most of these kids are in their early to mid 20s and some don’t even speak a lick of English! Did you really expect them to follow a strict protocol you laid out for them and expect this 60 game sprint of a season to go off without a hitch? If so they were REALLY kidding themselves and have no one to blame but the mirror they look at every morning!
Vete a la mierda vaquero americano
Thats OK here?
Just get well el birdos.
99% survival rate. get over it
Well, the rumor, as I heard it, is that they all came out to Montreux on the Lake Geneva Shoreline….to make records with the mobile, (they didn’t have much time).
Frank Zappa and the Mothers were at the best place around, but some stupid with a flair gun burned the place to the ground.
I can’t confirm any of this, unfortunately, so you’ll just have to take my word for it.
That was Deep
Fake news. Frank is dead. No more Dinah-Moe Humm.
Other than contact tracing there’s no value in debating where some of the Cards went.
Likewise, MLB should not be compared to the NBA or the NHL. It should be compared to the KBO. They had over a month to learn the protocols by which the KBO was operating before they started up again. It was S Korea that stated when it comes to COVID19, adequate ventilation in closed spaces requires a new standard much higher than what’s considered normal. All America seemed to learn from that was “it’s important to wear a mask when confronting other humans.”
I’m not aware of any politicians calling for stricter building codes & operating practices for such risky places.
The nation owes a debt to the athletes that resumed their training for Fall sports. We know a lot more about COVID19 as a result. Some of that knowledge is re-defining procedures & stress tests designed to detect live-threatening problems without the presence of COVID19. For the vast majority of people, a SARS-V2 infection poses less threat than influenza. For the rest there is little certainty.
What these athletes have provided are outlier cases that likely would’ve gone undetected.
For some, COVID19 has brought problems to the surface that team doctors were unware of. COVID19, has proven to be the ultimate stress test for a group of people that were thought to be in peak physcial shape.
SARS-V2 is a lot more difficult than SARS 2003.
Many of the people infected then still show a good supply of antibodies today.
You can safely say once infected grants you immunity.
In July, we learned that antibodies vs SARS-V2 will peak in week 5, & drop too low by week 12. It’s a near certainty now that immunity vs SARS-V2 is shorter than influenza.
If a SARS-V2 vaccine proves to be as effective as the influenza vaccine, people will need 2 or 3 shots a year to maintain immunity.
That’s not manageable so it needs to be more effective & that makes it much more difficult.
Americans need to stop thinking they can just stay home until a vaccine arrives.
They need to stop thinking the government can keep spending trillions to support them.
They need to start thinking about what can be done to go back to work & school with less risk.
Don’t just wear a mask. Spray it with a disinfectant that contains active bleach ingredients.
Don’t just rely on your current work or school ventilation system.
Daily soak sponges in bleach & tape them inside the air duct.
If you can afford it use directional fans to push the air flow to the ground quickly.
Consider bleached sponges on those fans as well.
Enough bleach will kill the virus on contact, but even a little bleach will disrupt the virus’ RNA. That disruption can put an end to high viral load infections in the room.
Some people are allergic to ingredients in bleach & lysol. They should stay home indefinitely.
Studies estimate 10 infected for every positive test. America could have 50M infected by year’s end. America needs to learn to live, work, & play with COVID19 around.
I don’t believe MLB players are showering with masks on. These bleaching protocols need to be enforced in any close space where there is frequent human activity.
THis the key part of what Chisox juan said that is the game changer.
“It was S Korea that stated when it comes to COVID19, adequate ventilation in closed spaces requires a new standard much higher than what’s considered normal.”
Air filtration systems that completely sanitize the air as it curculates. HEPA doesn’t cut it.