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Craig Counsell, Brewers “Have Had Conversations” On Future

By Simon Hampton | February 18, 2023 at 10:18pm CDT

TODAY: Counsell and Brewers GM Matt Arnold addressed the topic with Rosiak and other reporters today, hinting that serious talks likely wouldn’t take place until closer to the end of the season.  Arnold said that extension negotations are “definitely on our agenda” and that the Brewers “hope [Counsell is] here a long time.”

FEBRUARY 11: As manager Craig Counsell enters the final year of his contract with the Brewers, he’s revealed to Todd Rosiak of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he and owner Mark Attanasio “have had conversations” about his future with the team.

“I’m in a great place. I love doing what I’m doing. The ‘why’ is still intact – like, why I originally wanted to do this. It’s still front and center for me, and why I love the job. I’m happy. Mark [Attanasio] and I have had conversations and I’m sure those will continue. And meanwhile, I’ve got my feet in 2023 and I’m ready to go,” Counsell said.

Counsell took over as Brewers manager in 2015, replacing Ron Roenicke midway through that season. Since then, he’s gone on to become Milwaukee’s winningest manager, amassing a 615-555 record. During that time, they’ve generally been competitive in the NL Central, winning the division twice and going to the playoffs in four straight seasons between 2018-21, highlighted by a seven-game battle with the Dodgers in the 2018 NLCS.  For a team that’s typically worked with smaller than average payrolls, that record is no easy feat, and the Brewers look well positioned to compete for a playoff spot again in 2023.

After rounding out his playing career with five seasons at the Brewers, Counsell, 52, immediately began working with the team in a front office position as a special assistant to then-general manager Doug Melvin from 2012, before being given the managerial title three years later.

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  1. EricTheBat

    1 month ago

    the only headline i want to see:
    craig counsel back to the active lineup so we all get to see his amazing stance again

    Reply
    • CravenMoorehead

      1 month ago

      Him Bagwell and Batista had that wonderful presence in the batters box. 🙂

      Reply
      • Ted

        1 month ago

        Tony Batista right?

        Reply
        • CravenMoorehead

          1 month ago

          Yes bruthur

    • sergefunction

      1 month ago

      The all-time best first-ballot batting-stancer was Dick McAuliffe.

      To top that guy’s setup you’d have to stand on your head or include the naked 1980’s-version of the Barbi Twins

      Reply
      • Flanster

        1 month ago

        Absolutely!!

        Reply
    • Hippyripper

      1 month ago

      Craig Counsell is one of the most pissed off managers I’ve ever seen… dude never smiles

      Reply
    • mrperkins

      1 month ago

      Jose Oquendo had a unique stance, particularly when batting left handed

      Reply
      • CravenMoorehead

        1 month ago

        I was just playing sports talk baseball for sega the other day and I benched Oquendo bc he can’t hit worth SHlT in that game.

        Reply
    • deGrom Texas Ranger

      1 month ago

      I just saw a video on MLB.com that he changed it since he was released and wanted to try something new.

      Reply
  2. Samuel

    1 month ago

    Like the Brewers but am concerned a bit about their direction. Last year was step back year. Not comfortable with what they’re doing going into 2023, but expect a lot of changes as the season plays out.

    IMO Craig Counsell is one of the top half-dozen managers in MLB today.

    Couldn’t imagine the Brewers without him.

    Reply
    • Oldguy58

      1 month ago

      Well, you’re entitled to your opinion but definitely not half dozen

      Reply
      • RyanD44

        1 month ago

        I would definitely put him in the Top 30, but not top half dozen.

        Reply
        • FossSellsKeys

          1 month ago

          Of all the guys managing in the Major Leagues, Counsell is definitely one of them.

      • rondon

        1 month ago

        I’m a Cub fan and I don’t wanna like him, but I disagree. I think he’s done an excellent job competing with a limited budget team. He’s gets them in or near the playoffs every year. If he was available, I don’t think there’s a team in baseball that wouldn’t jump on him if they had an opening. I would put him top 5-10. Don’t confuse big budget with great coaching.

        Reply
        • afsooner02

          1 month ago

          He takes a lot of heat from brewers fans, but I like the guy and hope we resign him long term.

          I shudder thinking about the previous dozen managers we had. My memory goes back to Treblehorn and forward…..and there’s a lot of suck in that time.

        • SharksFan91

          4 weeks ago

          Please stop labeling Milwaukee a “limited budget team.” Since Miller Park (I refuse to call it by it’s new name.) was built. They’re typically in the top 10-15 in MLB home attendance, and average fan cost (most expensive) to attend a game. While receiving millions in revenue sharing from other teams, and yet, they’re typically in the bottom 15 for payroll salary.
          So, while they’re not the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Cubs, or Dodgers and never will be. They’re certainly not Tampa, KC, Miami, or Oakland. Yet, all four of those poorer limited budget, small-market teams have won a World Series in the past 35 years. Milwaukee hasn’t been to one in forty years!

      • Spike Hyzer

        1 month ago

        That’s because he’s the very best. If you watched him work his magic day to day, with this budget and the terrible offensive talent last year, you’d know.

        Reply
    • pmollan

      1 month ago

      Top 5. Imagine what he does with a payroll…

      Reply
      • _Soulrocker_

        1 month ago

        I think that is part of his value. What he can do with limited pieces and money.

        Reply
    • Spike Hyzer

      1 month ago

      They had a great off season. Arnold went with the typical Stearns plan, not overpaying for FAs, signing guys who might bounce back and lotto tickets who haven’t quite established themselves and are primed to finally break out.

      The offensive talent level is light years better than last year and he may have even improved the pen (which was the real reason they fell short last year).

      With that starting staff, they should be at least a half dozen wins better, maybe more.

      Reply
      • mustache101

        1 month ago

        As a brewers fan they have had a horrible off season…. The way they treated burnes is unacceptable that alone makes it horrible…. They have yet to extend anyone… they took there 30 million from Disney and pocketed it all.. and now we have a lame duck manager… stearns stepped down l… I wouldn’t call that a great offseason

        Reply
        • Jeremy320

          1 month ago

          $30m was last year and they spent it all on the team. Bally skipped their $140m interest payment on Friday and enters 30 day grace period. They are going chp 11. They owe the Brewers in March and are not going to pay. Milwaukee is severely in the red without those funds.

        • Spike Hyzer

          1 month ago

          Yes, giving a dude a 3.5 million dollar raise is SO HORRIBLE. I mean, in 40 years with an upper middle class income, NONE of us will make more than 1.6 million.
          So horrible.

      • Ry.the.Stunner

        4 weeks ago

        They definitely did not have a great offseason.

        Up until recently, they were the only MLB team that had not made any free agent signings. The trade for Contreras was good, but overall, probably puts them even or maybe ever so slightly ahead after losing Renfroe. They then proceeded to piss off their ace.

        Reply
        • RyanD44

          4 weeks ago

          Who in that atrocious lineup scares you? Yelich? Tellez? Contreras?

          Their pitching has to be PERFECT if they expect to win that division. No injuries, 5 starters that give them sub 4 ERA’s, and an immaculate bullpen.

          I don’t see it happening.

        • BrewKru

          4 weeks ago

          Watch Burnes’ W/L record soar with a real team when he leaves the Kru. Guy has to go out there trying to pitch a perfect game every time if there is any chance of getting a Brewer win. That is an unreal expectation that apparently is held by the Brewers. The offense is atrocious and Counsell has no idea how to create runs. To read it was Burnes’ fault is not just lawyer speak trying to save a few bucks. It represents the ignorance of Brewer management which is not unlike professional sports management on a whole.

        • Spike Hyzer

          4 weeks ago

          WL record is meaningless in the modern game. They pull pitchers early to prevent injury and overuse. Often when the game is tied or teams are behind. NOBODY who understands baseball even cares about starting pitcher wins anymore. It’s useless.

        • Spike Hyzer

          4 weeks ago

          Free agency is the most idiotic part of the off season.
          They have 26 new players on the 40 man since the deadline.
          They were active. There will be competition.
          It was a GREAT off season.
          Measuring any team’s off season by FA (or FA alone) is the mark of an idiot.

        • Spike Hyzer

          4 weeks ago

          The starters will do that (probably way better, under 3.5).
          And the offense they’ve assembled is EASILY a half run per game better than last year.
          Last year was the worst offense I’ve seen from them in 15 years.
          It’s happening.

  3. DarkSide830

    1 month ago

    The future? What, like the inevitable heat death of the universe, or something more simple like the sun burning out?

    Reply
    • THEY LIVE!!!

      1 month ago

      Universal warming, that can only be reduced by eliminating carbons.

      Reply
      • sascoach2003

        1 month ago

        Awesome screen name and movie…I’m here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I’m all out of bubble gum…RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper…

        Reply
        • THEY LIVE!!!

          1 month ago

          Thanks!

      • Yankee Clipper

        1 month ago

        Yeah, I also went on the diet to eliminate carbons…Keto, right?

        Reply
      • TurnOffTheTV

        1 month ago

        Remember humans are carbon based. That’s what they want to get rid of, you.

        Reply
        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 month ago

          Yes, what’s the issue?

        • utah cornelius

          1 month ago

          Right, because that’s what they’re suggesting. Eliminating humans. Sheesh.

        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 month ago

          But let’s not eliminate irony.

        • wtfCheeseheadChuck

          1 month ago

          Unfortunately whether u “believe” it or not doesn’t exactly matter…. It’s the plan, ever heard of the Georgia guide stones? That’s just the tip of a giant iceberg that unfortunately carbon isn’t melting anytime soon, however in regards to the article give couns his extension.

        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 month ago

          So, irony isn’t your thing?

        • Spike Hyzer

          1 month ago

          There’s not even a remotely coherent sentence fragment in there. I can’t imagine anyone has any idea what you’re saying. Ever.

        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 month ago

          It’s a rather simple question. While not elegant, I believe my sentence structure is strong.

    • stevewpants

      1 month ago

      Maybe they’re big fans of mumble rap trap music.

      Reply
    • Marinararivera

      1 month ago

      Maybe he was trying to tell him that in the distant year of 2015 his son would get arrested for a robbery so they had to leave the year 1985 to go into forward in time to 2015 hill valley. But before they could make it back into the time machine old Biff had ran off with it with a copy of grays sports almanac to give the 1955 version of himself so that he would become rich and other shananigans and hijinx would occur.

      Reply
  4. deGrom Texas Ranger

    1 month ago

    He should discuss with legal counsel.

    Reply
  5. LordD99

    1 month ago

    Please let us know the future.

    Reply
    • Yankee Clipper

      1 month ago

      Wouldn’t it be unique if he refused to talk about the future? Like, “Hey Craig, for this upcoming season…”(loud interruption with palm-to-face), “NO! We are not talking about the future. I will talk about right here and now, that’s it!” (Crickets)

      Reply
      • This one belongs to the Reds

        1 month ago

        Do the Brewers have a fortune teller on staff?

        Reply
        • Yankee Clipper

          1 month ago

          Yeah, didnt you see the story? “Brewers reach agreement with Miss Cleo on one-year deal.” There are built in incentives for predicting a certain number of future events.

        • rennick

          1 month ago

          Those Miss Cleo commercials were the best thing in television.

        • This one belongs to the Reds

          1 month ago

          I’m sure the California Psychics are working for the Dodgers…unless that is Billy Beane’s latest inspiration.

  6. RayKingsThickThighs

    1 month ago

    He’ll be back.

    Reply
    • mustache101

      1 month ago

      I wouldn’t bank on that… he has to be frustrated with ownership just like stearns was his hands are tied by ownership heck in the middle of a playoff run he had his closer traded on him…. He may be frustrated and want out

      Reply
  7. harrycarey

    1 month ago

    He is the Greatest living Brewer now that Aaron and Bando are gone

    Reply
    • RJNarvick

      1 month ago

      Uh Harry- there is a former player named Robin Yount. Maybe you forgot about him. A few too many Falstaffs will do that. Absolutely the best Brewer ever.

      Reply
      • RJNarvick

        1 month ago

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=efk4OrWm2hs

        Reply
      • Clevelandian

        1 month ago

        And, don’t forget about Paul Molitor

        Reply
    • deGrom Texas Ranger

      1 month ago

      Braun, Fielder, Greinke, Gallardo, Hader, Yelich, Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Williams… the list goes on

      Reply
  8. Clevelandian

    1 month ago

    Craig Counsell is a winner. He had that intangible, inexplicable quality as a player. It’s been great to see him continue at the helm for the Brew Crew. I hope he stays on board.

    Reply
  9. YankeesBleacherCreature

    1 month ago

    https://youtu.be/AukA-kDNSNc

    Reply
    • Yankee Clipper

      1 month ago

      If Corbin goes to FA the Yankees need to secure him. Imagine a Cole-Rodon-Burnes-Cortez top-4?! They could pitch IKF every fifth day and be fine.

      Reply
  10. Knowsnotsomuch

    1 month ago

    Craig Counsel is a winner. In my opinion he is the best manager in the majors. Always manages to win, not for pitch count, sharing time at various positions, altering lineups or any other silly things other managers do. He is old school, get em on, get em over, get em in. Bunts, steals, hit and runs, expects his starting pitchers to pitch deep into the game, not BS 5 inning “quality” start stuff. If they don’t keep him, please come to the Pirates.

    Reply
    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 month ago

      Better tune-up that flux capacitor pronto.

      Reply
    • enricopallazzo

      1 month ago

      You are so off base on that statement it’s funny. The Brewers definitely do not play small ball and pull starters out as early as almost anyone, using data in it’s decisions like any other forward thinking team does. Counsel has embraced that.

      Reply
      • jbeerj

        1 month ago

        Yeah, his username is quite accurate.

        Reply
    • mustache101

      1 month ago

      He is not old school…. Brewers don’t bunt they don’t hit and run he runs the pitching completely different then “old school” heck in the playoffs he had Miley the STARTER pitch to one batter against the dodgers to mess up there lineup going one batter with a lefty then go all righties is genius but definitely not old school he’s a great manager but old school no… I would say more new school

      Reply
  11. SODOMOJO

    1 month ago

    I know he’s been managing for a long time now, but every time I see or hear his name, every single time I still see him in a DBacks uni skipping into home plate after that walk off Gonzales base hit in the 2001 series

    Reply
  12. smotpoker

    1 month ago

    careful you must be when sensing the future anakin. the jedi counsel is clouded by the dark side

    Reply
  13. Winslow Leach

    1 month ago

    Does he ever smile? He always looks constipated

    Reply
    • Rsox

      1 month ago

      Maybe it’s from scoring the winning runs to win two different World Series Championships?

      Reply
  14. Ghost Pepper

    1 month ago

    Jay Bell scored the winning run in Arizona.

    Reply
  15. Whopper Head

    1 month ago

    Interesting comments.

    Brewers make it back to the playoffs again this season.

    Reply
  16. BucksPackersBrewersWow!

    1 month ago

    Counsel has the most wins, but the best Brewers’ manager was Harvey Kuehn. The way he managed those personalities in ‘82 was amazing. That loss to the Cards still hurts today.

    Reply
    • pmollan

      1 month ago

      Harvey didn’t manage them as much as he left them alone to play. Trying to manage them was what got Buck fired. And, yeah, that WS loss still stinks. In 1995 I was listening to a Yankee broadcast when (’82 Cardinal) Jim Kaat admitted that the Brewers were a better team that year… but the Cards won.

      Reply
      • BucksPackersBrewersWow!

        1 month ago

        Agree. Kind of what I was trying to say, but you said it a lot better than me. And yes, the Brewers were the better team.

        Reply
      • Spike Hyzer

        1 month ago

        Solely due to one unfortunate injury.

        Reply
  17. This one belongs to the Reds

    1 month ago

    I think I can sum it up.

    An article that said absolutely nothing.

    Reply
    • CravenMoorehead

      1 month ago

      I still love your account name. A smile comes across every time I see a reply from THIS ONE BELONGS TO THE REDS 🙂

      Reply
  18. StandUpDouble

    1 month ago

    Agree with the payroll argument and agree that he’s a good manager but they may need a fresh voice just to have a fresh voice. It’s one thing to have a .526 Winning % in the regular season but he’s at .412 in the post.

    Reply
  19. retired/advisory role

    1 month ago

    A lot of excellent comments in here today and I’m proud of all of you. For once the comments are so good I didn’t have to step in and correct someone. Well I could have corrected the guy who commented how Counsell has embraced the forward thinking and data from the front office and that’s the way to go now a days but I let it go. Keep up the great work fellas! By the way Yount and Molitor are the best Brewers ever.

    Reply
    • rememberthecoop

      1 month ago

      It’s so good to have your approval of the comment section, since you obviously know more than everybody else. Give it a rest dude.

      (Btw, saying that Yount and Molitor are the best Brewers ever is not exactly a hot take)

      Reply
      • retired/advisory role

        1 month ago

        Lol.

        Reply
      • Spike Hyzer

        1 month ago

        Though it may be a wrong take. Braun has honestly put up much bigger numbers than either (especially the HR total).
        And some fan site ranked the worst contracts in Brewer history last year, and failed to recognize that the last deal Yount signed was the biggest contract in MLB history at the time and he was TERRIBLE for his last 3 years (his last 3 years were FAR worse than Yelich has been over the last 3, and they ranked that and the Cain contract in the top 5).
        Sad that Molly left too soon though, but happy for him that he wasn’t on those terrible 90s teams.

        Reply
    • You Can Put It In The Books .

      1 month ago

      Some of you retired people should be put down.

      Reply
    • mustache101

      1 month ago

      Jeff Suppan best brewer ever lol

      Reply
  20. AZPat

    1 month ago

    Craig Counsell should be exploring other jobs. I would think most teams would want him as their manager.

    Reply
    • drewm

      1 month ago

      Counsell is from Whitefish Bay and his dad worked for the Brewers. If he couldn’t work for the Brewers he’d probably retire and raise his 57 kids

      Reply
  21. rememberthecoop

    1 month ago

    He’s easily a top 10 manager in the game in my not-so-humble opinion.

    Reply
    • Spike Hyzer

      1 month ago

      Maybe the best considering the low payroll and having less talent to work with. He squeezes out a lot of wins other managers wouldn’t get.

      Reply
      • Ry.the.Stunner

        4 weeks ago

        I mean, if that’s what we’re going off of, then Kevin Cash has to rank ahead of him. Tampa Bay has a much smaller payroll, fewer recognizable names, and has had far more success both in the regular season and postseason in recent seasons.

        Reply
  22. Spike Hyzer

    1 month ago

    Best in the game if you ask me–since he’s usually working with a lower payroll and less talent than most teams–and has had a wonderful synergy with the best GM and FO staff in the game.

    Here’s to another decade!

    Reply
    • You Can Put It In The Books .

      1 month ago

      “Had” being the operative word with Stearns en route to Queens.

      Reply
  23. Hellsbells 2

    1 month ago

    Of the active managers who haven’t won the one trophy fans and teams care about, he is in the top 5-10,

    Reply
  24. drewm

    1 month ago

    Craig Counsell aka “The Deity”

    Reply
  25. billysbballz

    1 month ago

    Test

    Reply
    • You Can Put It In The Books .

      1 month ago

      icles

      Reply
  26. Jeremy320

    1 month ago

    If the Brewers won the WS this year Counsell would have 3 rare rings (Arizona, Miami and Milwaukee). That is cool af.

    Reply
  27. baseballteam

    1 month ago

    I want to go on the Counsell power lifting program.

    Reply
  28. rememberthecoop

    1 month ago

    He’s a really solid manager, at least from afar (not a Brewers fan). If they don’t want him, I’d love to have him manage the Cubs. It won’t happen, though, because I’m sure he’ll re-sign with Milwaukee, plus Hoyer loves Ross.

    Reply
  29. SharksFan91

    4 weeks ago

    Please, time to move on, see a new Brewer manager, and past overdue.

    Reply

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