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Yankees Notes: Kiner-Falefa, Judge, Center Field

By Simon Hampton | March 11, 2023 at 8:13am CDT

As youngsters Oswald Peraza and Anthony Volpe make strong cases to take over the Yankees’ starting shortstop role, there’s been plenty of speculation over the future of Isiah Kiner-Falefa. That speculation has only intensified as the Yankees have announced a series of injuries that’ll affect their roster over the opening few weeks of the season and beyond.

Kiner-Falefa is owed $6MM this year, and does appear to be lagging behind in the race to win the shortstop job. The Yankees have been giving him time at second and third base, and plan to work him out in the outfield this spring, which suggests they may view him as more of a utility player at this point. Yet the team already has the highly impressive Oswaldo Cabrera capable of bouncing round the diamond as a utility option, and he’ll only earn the league minimum in 2023.

Now, with the Yankees dealing with rotation, bullpen and outfield injuries to Carlos Rodon, Frankie Montas, Lou Trivino, Tommy Kahnle and Harrison Bader, it would make some sense for the team to deal from their infield depth to address other areas. According to Brendan Kuty and Chris Kirschner of The Athletic, the Yankees have had conversations with the Dodgers and Rockies over Kiner-Falefa. It’s not known the exact timeline or extent of those conversations, but it’s worth noting the Dodgers checked in on Kiner-Falefa early in the off-season prior to acquiring Miguel Rojas from the Marlins.

General manager Brian Cashman addressed the trade market to reporters, and while he didn’t specifically name Kiner-Falefa (or any other infielders), he certainly didn’t close the door on a deal involving their infielders before the start of the regular season.

“I would say typically trade conversations usually are a bit more serious in the second part of camp than the first part. I do know that’s an area of strength for this franchise right now in real time. So if somebody is looking for help, we wouldn’t be surprised if they’re knocking on our door,” Cashman said.

A trade could help them address their thinning rotation and bullpen stock, but even with Bader on the shelf for a while, it doesn’t appear the outfield is a pressing need. As Kuty notes in a separate piece, Bader’s injury likely means a temporary return to center field for Aaron Judge. That would allow the Yankees to give Giancarlo Stanton more at bats in right field, with Cabrera and Aaron Hicks likely to handle left. Rafael Ortega and Estevan Florial are other candidates to fill in with Bader out, but it appears Hicks – a career center fielder who moved to left last year – is not among them, with Kuty noting it seems the Yankees prefer to keep him in left.

Speaking of Judge, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic sheds some more light on the high profile free agency of the new Yankees captain. While it’s been widely reported that the Yankees’ decision to tack on a ninth-year and take the total value of the contract to $360MM sealed the deal, there’s been a little bit of uncertainty over the extent of the Padres late interest in the slugger. According to Rosenthal, the Padres put forward a deal in the range of $415MM over at least 12 years.

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  1. Blue Baron

    1 week ago

    I don’t see why whatever the Padres did or didn’t offer Judge matters now.

    Reply
    • avenger65

      1 week ago

      Yeah, I can see why Judge would choose $40m over $35m a year. With inflation there’s no way he’d be able to make ends meet on what the Padres offered him.

      Reply
      • ramezhanna

        1 week ago

        Looool

        Reply
    • MuleorAstroMule

      1 week ago

      It’s not always easy to make the minimum eight paragraphs when reporting minor news.

      Reply
    • gbs42

      1 week ago

      Blue Baron, it provides insight to the SD front office’s and ownership’s willingness to spend which could come into play going forward.

      Reply
      • Blue Baron

        1 week ago

        It does nothing of the kind unless you have accurate, verifiable information, which we as fans generally don’t. We only know what teams and agents are willing to disclose.

        Reply
        • gbs42

          1 week ago

          This is MLB Trade Rumors, not MLB Accurate, Verifiable Information.

        • Blue Baron

          1 week ago

          But unverified rumors are just speculation. They don’t provide insight into anyone’s front office.

        • gbs42

          1 week ago

          MLB Trade Speculations…sorry, just not as catchy.

        • rabidrabbit

          1 week ago

          MLB Trade Musings 😛

        • Blue Baron

          1 week ago

          MLB Fans Bullsh*tting

        • Hammerin' Hank

          1 week ago

          MLB Rumor-Mongering

  2. Fljay073

    1 week ago

    Xavier or Judge. Padres picked their man. Both players are signed into their 40s. Let’s see how their contracts age 5 years from now.

    Reply
    • Bright Side

      1 week ago

      Xander won’t age well. Judge has skills that age well, old man skills – power, plate discipline, walks. Xander’s avg exit velocity too a big dip in 2022. He hit better in Fenway than he did on the road.

      Reply
      • rsmith

        1 week ago

        “Xander won’t age well. Judge has skills that age well,”

        When doing the math on that, did injury history not get factored in? I dont think either will “age well”, but, if forced to choose, Id put my money on the guy thats been relatively healthy over the guy that has had frequent back problems.

        Reply
        • pinstripes17

          1 week ago

          What history of back injuries does Aaron Judge have? Judge has never been on the IL at any point over his career for a back injury. People just get on this website and lie for the sake of a false narrative I guess.

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          “Judge has never been on the IL at any point over his career for a back injury.”
          ——–
          Injuries:
          DATE INJURY
          7/7/22 Lower Body
          7/16/21 COVID-19
          6/13/21 Back
          4/7/21 Side
          8/26/20 Calf
          8/12/20 Lower Body
          9/19/19 Shoulder
          4/20/19 Oblique
          7/27/18 Chip fracture, right wrist
          7/26/18 Chip fracture, right wrist

          Back, Side, Shoulder Oblique.

          Whats that on 6/13/21, a back injury? I guess your “never” makes you a liar “for the sake of a false narrative”. What are you 12?

        • Mad Hatter

          1 week ago

          I wouldn’t say he has back issues based on this quote: “2021 was his healthiest season in terms of soft tissue injuries, as he missed only three days total with an unspecified lower body injury and back spasms. “

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          Mad Hatter, I would honestly say I overstated his back problems, maybe Im confusing/combining Stantons problems with Judge’s, or maybe I happened to remember Judges had oblique, side and back problems better than others.

          The issue I have is I “lied for the sake of a false narrative” which is a dbag thing to say, especially when that poster say he “never” had a back injury. The ‘false narrative’ thing is just this posters imagination running away with him (Yankee persecution complex).

        • 49thyanks

          1 week ago

          rsmith: Interesting that you’re so indignant about the “never been on the IL for a back injury” comment, yet you soft sell your acknowledgement for your “frequent back problems” statement. The facts are Judge missed 3 days in 2021 with back spasms. pinstripes17 statement is the truth, Judge never went on the IL. Your statement is not truthful.

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          I was told I was a ‘liar’ and “pushed a false narrative” and Judge was “never” on the IR for back injuries. Which are all LIES. Talk to that guy. Oh wait, thats your other account.

          Also, a mistake is NOT a lie. Get educated.

        • 49thyanks

          1 week ago

          rsmith: You go on in this chain of responses to discuss how back injuries are degenerative to further dig your “mistake” deeper. Your assertions are not based in any fact. The paper thin justification you used was a reference to an injury “report” that listed Judge’s back spasms as a back injury. Judge missed 1 game for said spasms.

          All you had to do was a minute of research to find out the truth.

          The only person lying here is you…this is my only account.

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          It wasnt just his back. Its every part of his body that is breaking down. There you happy. Trollz.

        • boltz82

          1 week ago

          Perhaps not for back injuries. However, Judge has been in the league for 7 years and only has two seasons with 150+ games. He only has three with 113+ games. The most important aspect of any players game is availability. There is plenty of cause for concern.

      • foppert

        1 week ago

        Judge has work ethic and professionalism. He will look after himself. He has a good chance.

        Reply
        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          foppert:

          Back problems are degenerative. No amount of “work ethic” can change that. Its not like knee injuries or tendon problems, where there are surgeries to remedy it. Science hasnt evolved enough on the spine.

          Also, “work ethic” is a blanket statement said about lots of players. Bogaerts has a slew of columns about his ‘work ethic’:
          https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/padres/story/2022-12-14/column-xander-bogaerts-diligence-fundamentals-bode-well-for-padres

        • Blue Baron

          1 week ago

          @foppert: Every player who makes it to the MLB level has work ethic and professionalism, or they wouldn’t be there.

        • foppert

          1 week ago

          Yeah you can. You can continually strengthen your back muscles and core and keep the excess weight off your frame. You don’t need medical advancements to treat your back right. Just discipline.

          Wasn’t talking about Bogaerts.

          You don’t need medi.

        • foppert

          1 week ago

          Different levels. Different discipline required to maintain it through 40.

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          “Wasn’t talking about Bogaerts.”

          How is anyone to know? The thread literally starts with “Xander or Judge” and how their contracts will age.

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          foppert: you COMPLETELY changed your response. I shouldve waited the full 5 mins.

        • foppert

          1 week ago

          ???
          Can you change your response after publishing !
          Wish I knew how to do that.

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          Im not responding for 2 more mins.

        • foppert

          1 week ago

          I am so confused.

          I take your point re the Bogaerts comparison. So……..if I had spare $10 to drop on who will age better between Bogaerts and Judge, I’d go with Judge. I think it’s a special kind of mental animal that can maintain the physical work ethic rage for so many years, when you are guaranteed to get paid squillions either way. I think Judge has it. Reinforced by the fact that the careful Giants thought Judge has it. Bogaerts I don’t really know. It’s just an uneducated impression when it comes to that part of him.

        • Mad Hatter

          1 week ago

          No need to go into attack mode. We’re only here for light-hearted discussion.

        • Blue Baron

          1 week ago

          Bogaerts obviously has it too, or he wouldn’t even be part of this conversation.

        • foppert

          1 week ago

          Sure. The question is how long will he maintain it for.

        • Blue Baron

          1 week ago

          But it doesn’t really matter because Bogaerts and Judge are not comparable players, and there is no point in comparing apples to oranges.

      • Superstar Prospect Wander Javier

        1 week ago

        Xander has maintained an above average walk rate for most of his career. Strikes out less than average and plays SS at least passably. There is a much longer tumble down the defensive spectrum for him. Saying his skills don’ age well is pretty dumb.

        Reply
      • stymeedone

        1 week ago

        Everyone hits better at Fenway. Its like saying a Rockie hits better at home games.

        Reply
      • kevins

        6 days ago

        Judge will have issues also, though having the enormous strike zone.
        But your point is well taken. Judge will age much better than someone like Stanton because he has a much more solid approach-doesnt chase nearly as much.

        Reply
    • deGrom Texas Ragner

      1 week ago

      Personally I’d take Arson Judge over Xavier Bogaerts

      Reply
      • Blue Baron

        1 week ago

        But you got deGrom instead.

        Reply
    • drasco036

      1 week ago

      The Padres picked their man? You mean Judge chose staying in New York over going to San Diego.

      Reply
  3. Big whiffa

    1 week ago

    See who’s on the face of new $1,000 bill ? The Padre

    Reply
  4. Joe says...

    1 week ago

    At least these injuries are at the beginning of the season. With the new playoff format that lets in half of the league, wins and losses aren’t as important any more. Hopefully they’ll be in good shape for the second half of the season.

    Reply
    • Big whiffa

      1 week ago

      Yankees just need to rollout w Volpe. He’s done enough this spring in comparison to be given the nod

      Reply
    • Yankee Clipper

      1 week ago

      I hate to phrase it this way, but it may be more beneficial to have the injuries in the first half. The reason is because it should notably affect their performance, and for once, Cashman may actually make the moves needed.

      Cashman reminds me of a guy who is going to take a cross county trip in a car. Prior to the trip he notices he has a couple bald tires, but instead of ensuring he gets new tires, or has at least one spare, he decides to hope for the best because the tires are usually reliable (and he just put Armor All tire shine on them). To make this more analogous, he takes this trip annually, and every year gets stuck because he gets a flat tire, therefore he never makes his destination. This year, he’s confident no flat tire will occur – based on pure hope.

      Time to start the journey! He pulls out of the driveway and notices……he already has a flat tire. Cashman can’t understand how this happened, but he’s going to fix this by hoping the tire bounces back to new………

      Reply
  5. StudWinfield

    1 week ago

    Donaldson is the one who needs to go. IKF isn’t in anyone’s way.

    Reply
    • avenger65

      1 week ago

      I was surprised that the Yankees couldn’t do any better than IKF. I saw him play for the Rangers and didn’t think he was very good.

      Reply
    • deGrom Texas Ragner

      1 week ago

      Did you watch the playoffs last year? Yankees aren’t going anywhere with IKF at shortstop. He’s a liability in the field and a black hole in the lineup and he’s blocking their two best prospects from getting consistent playing time. Both Donaldson and IKF need to go, or more accurately, should never have been acquired in the first place.

      Reply
      • StudWinfield

        1 week ago

        IKF is not the starting SS, he’s a utility player. Peraza is the starter. Only a Peraza failure/injury will result in significant playing time for IKF. Neither he or Volpe will be on the MLB roster and sit the bench, that’s IKF.

        To be clear, I’m not saying that IKF needs to stay just that he has utility as a plan B or C SS and backup. Donaldson has none as long as he looks like he did last year at the plate, which he has so far.

        Reply
    • stymeedone

      1 week ago

      Teams no longer hope for one multi position player. Having Cabrera does not make IKF redundant.

      Reply
  6. rsmith

    1 week ago

    “That would allow the Yankees to give Giancarlo Stanton more at bats in right field”

    He’ll get the same at bats, and none of them will take place in right field.

    Reply
    • Superstar Prospect Wander Javier

      1 week ago

      He’s gunna be playing pepper down the line before the game

      Reply
      • Hammerin' Hank

        1 week ago

        No Pepper

        Reply
    • stymeedone

      1 week ago

      Most ABs are taken at home plate.

      Reply
    • Gasu1

      1 week ago

      Haha, but that’s just “baseball talk.” It’s exactly as described in the box score, which is a universally recognized gane summary format.

      Reply
  7. saratoga72

    1 week ago

    I can’t wait for Gerrit Cole’s inevitable “forearm tightness,” with the usual slow roll out of worse news daily until the final reveal (shocking!) he will need TJS. Please let this be the year, and please let it happen soon!!!

    Reply
    • utah cornelius

      1 week ago

      Wait, you’re hoping for a player to get a horrible 14-18-month injury? What the heck is wrong with you?

      Reply
      • saratoga72

        1 week ago

        Yes. Yes I am. Does that bother you?

        Reply
        • utah cornelius

          1 week ago

          So there’s this thing called the dark triad. Psychopath, sociopath, and Machiavellian. Wonder which one you are.

        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          Who really cares? None of those players gives a damn about me. I care about them as much as they care what happens to me.

        • utah cornelius

          1 week ago

          It’s not that you don’t care about them that matters. It’s that you wish them extreme harm. Did you torture and/or kill animals as a child? With the same amount of glee? P.S., i doubt any of these players who don’t care about you (perhaps because they don’t even know you) gleefully wish you harm. That’s the difference.

        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          I love animals. I’d never hurt an animal. I would also never personally hurt a fellow human. But when it comes to baseball players, inevitably some of them will get hurt. I root for the i évitable injuries to befall Yankee players. If that bothers you, I invite you to suck it.

        • MuleorAstroMule

          1 week ago

          Just because you lack empathy doesn’t mean other people also lack empathy. But, people with emotional failings often make the blanket assumption that all others have the same failings as it is much easier than addressing their own deficiencies.

        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          Thanks for setting me straight. I learned something today! And it really changes my outlook on life, the universe, and everything. I owe you a huge debt!

        • MuleorAstroMule

          1 week ago

          Ah sarcasm, the lowest form of humor. If nothing else, at least you have my pity.

        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          No really. It makes me feel warm to know there are truly good, kind-hearted people like you in the world. I see so much darkness, sometimes I lose sight of the good in the world. But you helped me realize there is hope. People can change. And it is just plain wrong to root for Yankee players to get injured. You made the world a better place today, and our lord and saviour Jesus Christ smiles on you.

        • MuleorAstroMule

          1 week ago

          I know. You’re welcome.

      • Michael Macaulay-Birks

        1 week ago

        Yeah, that’s kind of crappy, I’m a Red Sox fan, and I wouldn’t go that far

        Reply
        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          Meh. Hoping players get hurt doesn’t cause them to get hurt. I’m sure they don’t care what fans hope. Players get hurt every year…. I just hope it is Yankee players who get hurt. Big effing deal. I’m allowed to.

        • utah cornelius

          1 week ago

          Yeah. Sociopaths never get it.

        • nottinghamforest13

          1 week ago

          Your job history, which is displayed publicly through a link on this site, suggests you have a deep seeded issue with participating in societal norms. There’s a disturbing pattern apparent and your comments on this article only serve to back that up.

        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          Societal norms are overrated.

        • rsmith

          1 week ago

          Just a troll. Im pretty sure his name was ‘kewldood69’ last week. He had terrible things to say about Justin Turner when he got HBP in the face.

          “Well, I’m guess I’m happy you guys are so privileged to pray for rich people with normal sports injuries.” — written by kewl last week about Turner

        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          I am a “troll,” yes. But I don’t wish harm on Justin Turner…. He is not a Yankee.

        • Steinbrenner2728

          1 week ago

          “I love animals. I’d never hurt an animal.” Yeah, this is kind of a sure sign. I’m sure we’ve seen how terribly misanthropic ‘animal-loving’ people tend to get or the things they say online, so this doesn’t surprise me at all. “Troll” or not

        • saratoga72

          1 week ago

          I know right?! That guy is a real jerk! What a mean-spirited guy he is. Probably just a “troll” but I bet in real life he is just as misanthropic. We are better than him though, because we post positive, uplifting things on the internet (well mostly, aside from calling that guy names). We are the good guys. He is the bad guy.

  8. whyhayzee

    1 week ago

    The Yankees lead all of MLB in trombones. Whether it’s Boonedoggle or the Cash Man, it’s always, “Wah wah wah wah”.

    Reply
  9. Very Barry

    1 week ago

    Rodon already breaking down is not a good sign for the Yankee’s. They need their pitching to be elite. They just don’t have the sticks anymore other than Judge, who is always an injury waiting to happen.

    Reply
  10. Old York

    1 week ago

    Pitchers only go 4+ innings nowadays so it doesn’t matter if they don’t have a rotation. Just throw 100+ for those innings and take a rest. Just beef up on the bullpen.

    Reply
    • rsmith

      1 week ago

      Sure, there are dozens of unsigned pitchers that throw 100+. Cant believe no one has thought of this before.

      Reply
  11. Rick Pernell

    1 week ago

    You are down two starting pitchers and a center fielder. You aren’t sure who is starting in left or shortstop. The guy you got penciled in to fill right field is as fragile as a prom queen. Get ready, this is the Yankee Bust of 2023.

    Reply
    • saratoga72

      1 week ago

      Down 3 starting pitchers. Montas and Rodon, plus Fat Nestor!

      Reply
  12. WideWorldofSports

    1 week ago

    Why the Yankees paid IKF 6 million dollars is a true mystery

    Reply
    • Rsox

      1 week ago

      Hedging their bets in case none of the kids ran with job during the spring. In a way this is sort of reminiscent of the early 90’s when the Yankees had guys like Mike Gallego, Randy Velarde, Alvaro Espinoza, Andy Stankiewicz, and Dave Silvestri competing for the SS job.

      Reply
  13. bigstein09

    1 week ago

    I’d sell IKF into slavery at this point if it means I don’t have to watch him noodle arm another ball from the hole.

    Reply
  14. Rsox

    1 week ago

    IKF has logged games at C/2B/3B/SS in his career and with the Yankees recent spate of injuries and the fact that spring training isn’t even half over yet they should probably take advantage of that versatility because it could definitely be a blessing by the time opening day arrives

    Reply
  15. Mikenmn

    1 week ago

    Yankees trade IKF for a player who arrives in camp, slips on some ice near the Gatorade cooler, fractures his arm, and, while it’s being set, admits to the doctor some discomfort in the forearm the predated the trade. An MRI reveals ligament damage, and TJ surgery is scheduled for six weeks (give the break a chance to heal). The player, who had two years left on his contract, might be ready by the All Star break–next season.

    Reply
  16. Buzz Killington

    1 week ago

    We’ll trade him then everyone else will get injured.

    Reply
  17. Bright Side

    1 week ago

    Bringing back IKF reminds me of Kitchen Nightmares whenever chef Ramsay finds moldy vegetables inside a refrigerator. The owner would say that they were going to throw them out, but Ramsay would say, “why is it still there?” I felt the same when they brought back Urshela for $6mill in 2022 and IKF for about the same in 2023. Why? Even if he lost his spot in the starting lineup is he worth $6mil??? Waste of money and illustrates Cashman’s inability to assess value of his own players.

    Reply
  18. Endar Malkovich

    1 week ago

    Where are the Padres getting this money from?

    Tatis – 340m/14
    Machado – 350M/11
    Xander – 280M/11
    Darvish- 108/6
    Musgrove -100/5
    Judge. – 415M/12
    Soto. – God only knows
    Ohtani. – I’m sure they’ll be in on it

    Reply
  19. iBleeedBlue

    6 days ago

    He wants to win. Padres are destined to flame out after a half decade or so.

    Reply

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