I think Soto's deal will be just as bad as the last guy who got a huge deal because he was just 26, Jason Heyward. Before I get killed for the comp, I do believe Soto is better than Heyward. But Soto is going to make a LOT more and I don't believe he will live up to the deal...just like Heyward. They are also both better players on the stat sheet than actually on the field. Heyward's defense and Soto's walks prop up their WAR a lot higher than actually show up on the field. Walks are useful, but if I am paying someone $600 million, I want HIM to do the damage, not walk and hope the next guy does something.
Not worth 15M but we know Cherington and Co. love them lefties. Rum Bunter will put out an article soon that they are gonna sign Max Fried or Blake Snell. Maybe even Kershaw.
I'm not surprised about Manaea. Over his last 17 starts (from July 1 on) - 105.1 innings, 3.16 ERA, 108 Ks, 29 BB. He changed his arm angle and had some success. Not ace material but well worth the QO.
I'm a little surprised about Sevy getting it. He was much more of an "average" pitcher. But maybe the Mets feel like since it was his first full season since 2018 that maybe next year he'll be even better. Would not be surprised if Sevy accepted it.
I’ve pegged him as a potential late innings guy even before the injuries. He doesn’t command enough pitches to be an effective starter in today’s game.
What do you mean strong opinion? It’s math and logic.
If he can’t increase his bat speed, something I’m not an expert at, then he has to let the ball travel and control the strike zone. Even the guy on X who was bullish on Schanuel admitted this.
His current bat speed forces him to make decisions sooner.
I was high on Adell because of his tools. I’m much lower on Schanuel because of his tools.
If May rolls around next year and his bat speed ranks 40 out of 50 players, instead of 50 out of 50 players, I’ll be thrilled.
500 bucks shoot i gotta try this. I win you don't have to pay me just let me write an article about the Cardinals for you. Free membership don't sound bad either yeah gotta give it a shot.
Is the free agent group this year that bad? On the other hand, does Pivetta take the $21 million for a year and figure he can still get 3 years and $45 million next year or maybe more if he has a big year? This seems like a lot for what the Sox get from him. Makes me wonder if they are worried none of the free agents are willing to come to Boston for what Henry is willing to pay.
In all fairness, the Mize and Tork draft years were really weak as of now, it’s not like they passed over star players. It wouldn’t surprise me if both players are not on the Tigers opening day roster.
From the predictions from the esteemed group, it seems like the Giants will be replacing half of their team!!! Not like they can’t use the help, but I don’t see it.
So sad for him with all the injuries. I was thrilled when he first came in the majors, he looked like fire his rookie year ! I thought for sure this guy would be a star back then
Diggy - teams have been free to negotiate and agree to new deals with their own outgoing free agents. Based on the currently available reporting, it seems that he activated his opt-out, and the Yankees worked out a new deal with him instead of picking up their option. He didn't really "rescind" his opt out, but the end result currently appears to be the same as if he had.
1) you're paying a premium to get it on a one year deal without having a player friendly option attached.
2) think about the quality of bostons defense the last few years... pitcher ability isn't completely accurately depicted by era alone.
3) era+ ranks pivetta as slightly better than league average. Think that through to its conclusion regarding how many other pitchers must be worse than he is.
4) BOS needs more than one SP this winter, given the amount of recovering arms that had major surgeries.
So, although his accepting isn't a given, BOS may use it as leverage to lower the price on a multi year deal with him anyways. We just don't know.
But, I'm fine with the one year at 21m if he does take it, assuming the team continues spending
Wilson & Rea are gone for the same reasons. Used alot of smoke and mirrors to be effective with an incredible defense behind them. Both were ineffective towards the end of last year, and have no options.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Brewers have multiple guys on min deals in mind that they could acquire for next to nothing that they project to outperform both next year.
As a Sox fan, unfortunately I have to agree with this. The Sox have given no indication that "this is they year!" they actually have a payroll that reflects the ridiculous amounts of revenue they generate. It's a shame too as they have some nice young pieces and with a solid rotation could actually make some noise. Oh well, hoping for 87 wins and WC spot.....
"Makes sense to add a year or two"...If it "made sense" why didn't the Yankees do it?
Because in no world does it "make sense" to add yrs on the contract of a declining, older pitcher(possibly injured)who you already have locked up for 4 years at $144M.
I agree Manaea could very well regress. Regardless of what you or I think, someone somewhere will probably give him 2+ years. So regress or not, he'll already have the guaranteed money. Given his erratic career, he's gotta take the biggest offer he can get now when his value is the highest its ever been.
Starting pitching who can throw 150 Innings is extremely valuable in Major League Baseball right now.
And an era under 5 is sort of the thing today. 30 years ago it was an ERA under 4 for your 5th starter, but times have changed. I think this is a great move. Win-win.
Yea I know inflation is brutal but 21 million for Nick Martinez seems pretty crazy. I'm rooting for Nick to keep pitching well, but he should probably take the money.
The Red Sox have 27 outfielders and a couple of them are cheap and a couple of them are potential or actual all stars and rookie of the year candidates and so they're loaded.
21 million for 30 home runs and a .240 average makes zero sense. We all told ya.
"He didn't blink"...Cole totally blinked and probably wet his pants when he realized the Yankees were prepared to live without him. This is another example of Scott Boras misreading the team and the market.
Starting pitching is so valuable that this is the right move.
Either they keep him for just one single year as an Innings eater and a number five starter who can flip back and forth to the bullpen and starting, or he rejects it. Great move.
If he rejects it they get a first round pick and he gets his 3-year contract.
It's win-win. I don't understand the statement above of hoping he'll decline? But I love this move.
For the record I am biased but D-Mo played 6 different positions and had far fewer errors than Dubon. Who in comparison made nearly 3 times as many errors in the field. Thats pretty compelling evidence to say the voters got that one spot on
One of the players that Baseball Savant has rated as most similar to Tyler O'Neill (based on stats) is Rockies' first baseman, Michael Toglia, who is 3 years younger (26) and providing his similar numbers as a pre-arbitration player, earning $742,000.
Paying Tyler O'Neill $21 million for a firm jaw, ripped abs, a steely-eyed gaze and a Marine Corps haircut doesn't seem like a good trade.
"That's what doesn't add up"...It totally "adds up" if you consider the Yankees almost certainly said "no" to the extra year and yet Cole didn't really want to leave his "forever" Yankees. This is yet another example of Scott Boras misreading the team, financial environment and the market.
Payroll is going down but look at how much payroll is coming off the books, plus if you look at how many Mets each of them individually has, it's not that crazy.
@ Drew Waters Bat..... For openers, the Mets had a payroll in the mid 300 million range this year and now have about $165- $170 mil committed to 2025. So they have room to spend big and still bring payroll down.
That said, please... show us the article or press conference where Cohen said payroll is going down tis year, per se. I'm an avid Mets' fan who thinks they SHOULD try and bring payroll down, and I'm not aware of it.
Rickey Henderson 1976
Jeff Bagwell 1989
Yadier Molina 2000
Paul Oneil 1981
Ozzie Smith 1977 / 1976
Cliff Lee 1997
Shane Bieber 2016
lets see 1970s ... yup thats a decade
1980's ... also a decade should i keep going
so what maybe 3 a decade ... thats 15 players over 50 years. so yes keep going. my guess is there maybe at most 3-4 4th rounders per decade that were all stars or truly notable. over the last 60 or 70 years so out of what roughly 300 picks a decade maybe 3 so 1%.
gbs42, Exactly nobody. I wasn't trying to talk trash, rather just throwing in a little humor. It wasn't funny?
As far as baseball is concerned, the Red Sox haven't even asked where the big boys table is !! LOL
If I need to keep it to baseball let me know but it'll be tough because I'm a joker by nature. But I'll respect the suggestion because you for instance are on here quite a bit and I value your opinion. Thanks.
I’m not a “Ryan burner.” I’ve used this as my sole account for years. Used to include my full last name. So I’m sorry you’ve equated my views with the other Ryan you’re referring to.
If they Jays are somewhat smart, They should pounce quickly on Shane Bieber and Paul Goldschmidt this off season.
It give them a legit Ace once he returns from rehabbing and the flexibility to play Vlad Jr. at 3B when Goldy plays 1B and someone else DH’s in the event of course, that they don’t land Bregman, which is another player that they should highly pursuit as it could help revive Springer’s career with his influence as a Jay and training together.
Always enjoy this piece. Great work to all involved.
I'm going to go against my negative Nancy fellow Twins fans and say they take a run at Walker Buehler or Mathew Boyd and Ha-Seong Kim on 2-year deals with opt outs... They've worked with Borras in the past plus it's easier to sell a team that is completive.
There will definitely be a team with a need for LHP Swingman/Mop-Up lefty who pitched well in the high altitude, big offense PCL. I would not be suprised if Rosenberg gets a 5th starters job in MLB next season. He provides length and an average Era. He doesn't walk batters and is always in the strike zone, so he has a propensity to give up the long ball.
That sounds like a completely neutral outcome to me. Cole had $144M guaranteed and he's ending the situation with $144M guaranteed. It would have been the same result had he just opted in and nobody would have batted an eyelash. If he opted out entirely and got less it would be an L but that didn't happen. This was a no-win, no-lose outcome.
Cubs said they are relying on internal improvements in 2025. They said this folks. You can want and wish all you want why would you ignore what they said?
LAA do not sign pitchers for more than 3 years, and only did that twice since Arte came to town.
Onesies twosies tops for any pitcher that signs in LAA, and none that actually want to win.
"Not 1 but 2 games"...Had the Dodgers not basically conceded game 4(with a 3-0 lead) before it started, the Yankees would have been swept. Beyond that, we can talk about "what ifs" and "would have beens" until the cows come home.
And, the Yankees' defense, swing & miss and baserunning is the gift that keeps on giving. It's available to any team that can take advantage of it.
Yea i disagree .starting pitching is and always will be the top commodity in mlb...it is an overpay but hes been very reliable the past 3 seasons..maybe you should watch the man pitch before you make such a well articulated judgement on the contract he was offered
As a Braves fan it’s funny that the payroll is going up but that you all think that Atlanta will be in the running for no one good. I can see a lot of bias here. Cohen said payroll is going down but how many of the top names are for the Mets. The pay these players want they are going to price themselves right out of baseball. You play a game but in 5 years we will be talking close to a billion dollar player. Greed will ruin baseball
For some reason, I seem to be in the minority when it comes to trusting data more than anecdotal evidence and the "eyeball test".
Anyone claiming that Tyler O'Neill offers high end base running skill is completely ignoring measurable data, as available to any and all of us, on MLB's own Baseball Savant reference site.
According to this year's data, O'Neill was in the 55th percentile among all base runners this year, which means that 55% of all major league baseball runners were as fast as, or slower than O'Neill, or, conversely, that approximately 45% of all runners were faster. Any way that you prefer to look at it, ranking in the 55th percentile means that O'Neill is pretty much an average runner - and that almost half of all players were faster in 2024.
Using the same site, you can track O'Neill throughout his entire career, beginning in 2018, with the Cardinals. Up to, and including the 2022 season, he was, in fact, a burner, ranking 17th, 8th, 7th, 16th and 16th, but, beginning in 2023, injuries appear to have taken a significant toll on O'Neill's foot speed. After a 16th fastest showing in 2022, he dropped to a 122nd fastest rank in 2023, and in this most recent season, he was ranked as the 253rd fastest runner in the game.
It's fair to believe that an injury free year in 2025 might give Tyler O'Neill an opportunity to showcase his former speed, but until then, he can't fairly be counted as a blazer on the base paths at age 29.
More interesting data on the page raises concern that O'Neill is becoming a more extreme fly ball and pull hitter, and that opposing pitchers are getting him out with a steady diet of off speed pitches.
The data shows that his fielding range is almost non-existent, ranking among the worst in baseball, and that his strikeout rate is horrendous.
Argue that his 2024 season was unrepresentative, but don't use this most recent campaign to tab him as an elite hitter, fielder, or base runner. His 2024 performance attests to none of those qualities. He looks the part of a hard-nose competitor, but he's not currently performing like a star.
While I can see the Tigers spending some money, I don't think they will touch a player with a Q.O. unless its Bregman, and I can see Boras being an obstacle as well.
It is great to see the Nationals considered as players in the free agent market again. I hope that comes to pass, because it feels like time to start prying the window of contention open again.
As a Braves fan it's funny that the payroll is going up but that you all think that Atlanta will be in the running for no one good. I can see a lot of bias here. Cohen said payroll is going down but how many of the top names are for the Mets. The pay these players want they are going to price themselves right out of baseball. You play a game but in 5 years we will be talking close to a billion dollar player. Greed will ruin baseball.
d’Arnaud seems destined for the Cubs. They need power and an upgrade at catcher, he fits both. They are in a weird situation where they don’t have many unoccupied spots, but also don’t have any much for really good players either. d’Arnaud would at least eliminate a glaring hole in their lineup.
Do you realize Yankees gave the Dodgers not 1 but 2 games that would have been wins if their brain dead manager make the right moves. As bad as the Yankees played they should have been up 3-2 heading to LA for game 6. Dont fool yourself as they won 94 games with a closer who blew 14 saves plus a lineup with dead wood from 6-9. Rest assured they will have a balanced lineup better than when Soto was on the team.
I do not understand. We have so many question marks that 21 mil could have helped answer. Looks like Stuart Fairchild and Wil Benson will platoon.
Ridiculous.
He wants his 10 mil deferred over the next 20 years.
I think Soto's deal will be just as bad as the last guy who got a huge deal because he was just 26, Jason Heyward. Before I get killed for the comp, I do believe Soto is better than Heyward. But Soto is going to make a LOT more and I don't believe he will live up to the deal...just like Heyward. They are also both better players on the stat sheet than actually on the field. Heyward's defense and Soto's walks prop up their WAR a lot higher than actually show up on the field. Walks are useful, but if I am paying someone $600 million, I want HIM to do the damage, not walk and hope the next guy does something.
I'm going to assume they have a new contract in place already that will pay him more, otherwise why do this?
What?
Meh. They have the money to flush. Let 'em.
Huh?
I would rather try and resign D’arnaud for two years at $10 million than to start the clock on a prospect to back up Murphy.
Not worth 15M but we know Cherington and Co. love them lefties. Rum Bunter will put out an article soon that they are gonna sign Max Fried or Blake Snell. Maybe even Kershaw.
I'm not surprised about Manaea. Over his last 17 starts (from July 1 on) - 105.1 innings, 3.16 ERA, 108 Ks, 29 BB. He changed his arm angle and had some success. Not ace material but well worth the QO.
I'm a little surprised about Sevy getting it. He was much more of an "average" pitcher. But maybe the Mets feel like since it was his first full season since 2018 that maybe next year he'll be even better. Would not be surprised if Sevy accepted it.
Ooopsy, wrong dude, another guy with the alphabet name....Rzeczynski
I’ve pegged him as a potential late innings guy even before the injuries. He doesn’t command enough pitches to be an effective starter in today’s game.
What do you mean strong opinion? It’s math and logic.
If he can’t increase his bat speed, something I’m not an expert at, then he has to let the ball travel and control the strike zone. Even the guy on X who was bullish on Schanuel admitted this.
His current bat speed forces him to make decisions sooner.
I was high on Adell because of his tools. I’m much lower on Schanuel because of his tools.
If May rolls around next year and his bat speed ranks 40 out of 50 players, instead of 50 out of 50 players, I’ll be thrilled.
500 bucks shoot i gotta try this. I win you don't have to pay me just let me write an article about the Cardinals for you. Free membership don't sound bad either yeah gotta give it a shot.
Did Denny give you any investment advice?
He took the D train to Yankee Stadium…wait, that’s not it
Is the free agent group this year that bad? On the other hand, does Pivetta take the $21 million for a year and figure he can still get 3 years and $45 million next year or maybe more if he has a big year? This seems like a lot for what the Sox get from him. Makes me wonder if they are worried none of the free agents are willing to come to Boston for what Henry is willing to pay.
In all fairness, the Mize and Tork draft years were really weak as of now, it’s not like they passed over star players. It wouldn’t surprise me if both players are not on the Tigers opening day roster.
Bregman I don't think is going to get that much !
From the predictions from the esteemed group, it seems like the Giants will be replacing half of their team!!! Not like they can’t use the help, but I don’t see it.
So sad for him with all the injuries. I was thrilled when he first came in the majors, he looked like fire his rookie year ! I thought for sure this guy would be a star back then
Diggy - teams have been free to negotiate and agree to new deals with their own outgoing free agents. Based on the currently available reporting, it seems that he activated his opt-out, and the Yankees worked out a new deal with him instead of picking up their option. He didn't really "rescind" his opt out, but the end result currently appears to be the same as if he had.
No it's not. I bet this takes them out of the running for Burnes or Snell.
There's a couple counterpoints to all that...
1) you're paying a premium to get it on a one year deal without having a player friendly option attached.
2) think about the quality of bostons defense the last few years... pitcher ability isn't completely accurately depicted by era alone.
3) era+ ranks pivetta as slightly better than league average. Think that through to its conclusion regarding how many other pitchers must be worse than he is.
4) BOS needs more than one SP this winter, given the amount of recovering arms that had major surgeries.
So, although his accepting isn't a given, BOS may use it as leverage to lower the price on a multi year deal with him anyways. We just don't know.
But, I'm fine with the one year at 21m if he does take it, assuming the team continues spending
Wilson & Rea are gone for the same reasons. Used alot of smoke and mirrors to be effective with an incredible defense behind them. Both were ineffective towards the end of last year, and have no options.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Brewers have multiple guys on min deals in mind that they could acquire for next to nothing that they project to outperform both next year.
As a Sox fan, unfortunately I have to agree with this. The Sox have given no indication that "this is they year!" they actually have a payroll that reflects the ridiculous amounts of revenue they generate. It's a shame too as they have some nice young pieces and with a solid rotation could actually make some noise. Oh well, hoping for 87 wins and WC spot.....
Signing Boyd for that much is laughable
Blackpink, yes it is.
"Makes sense to add a year or two"...If it "made sense" why didn't the Yankees do it?
Because in no world does it "make sense" to add yrs on the contract of a declining, older pitcher(possibly injured)who you already have locked up for 4 years at $144M.
I agree Manaea could very well regress. Regardless of what you or I think, someone somewhere will probably give him 2+ years. So regress or not, he'll already have the guaranteed money. Given his erratic career, he's gotta take the biggest offer he can get now when his value is the highest its ever been.
It's not that valuable......
Short term deals get higher AAV.
Ah, that makes more sense.
Agreed that overpaying for one year is not a big deal. I'm guessing he will turn it down.
Starting pitching who can throw 150 Innings is extremely valuable in Major League Baseball right now.
And an era under 5 is sort of the thing today. 30 years ago it was an ERA under 4 for your 5th starter, but times have changed. I think this is a great move. Win-win.
Yea I know inflation is brutal but 21 million for Nick Martinez seems pretty crazy. I'm rooting for Nick to keep pitching well, but he should probably take the money.
Gary,
Sorry, I've become cynical by the overall negativity in these comments. I'll try to lighten up, and I appreciate the reminder.
I'm a Cardinals fan, so I'm not exactly excited about my team right now. They're skipping the dance and playing solitaire.
Is there any way you can 'pin' this article to the top of the page? This is always the best article of the offseason
As a fan of the UNC Tarheels, I'd get rid of him just for his name.
LAA probably need a complete tear down.
Loaded with talented players who don’t know how to play baseball.
O'Neil...? we ALL told ya.
The Red Sox have 27 outfielders and a couple of them are cheap and a couple of them are potential or actual all stars and rookie of the year candidates and so they're loaded.
21 million for 30 home runs and a .240 average makes zero sense. We all told ya.
But I agree, still kind of an overpay
Well the article said he rescinded his opt out so someone isn’t completely accurate here. We’ll find out more soon.
"He didn't blink"...Cole totally blinked and probably wet his pants when he realized the Yankees were prepared to live without him. This is another example of Scott Boras misreading the team and the market.
Starting pitching is so valuable that this is the right move.
Either they keep him for just one single year as an Innings eater and a number five starter who can flip back and forth to the bullpen and starting, or he rejects it. Great move.
If he rejects it they get a first round pick and he gets his 3-year contract.
It's win-win. I don't understand the statement above of hoping he'll decline? But I love this move.
Maton is Drew Smith but slightly better. He even looks like him. Two awful pitchers. Maton is atleast good for mop up duty. Good riddance
He's not fantastic, but he's durable. Have you seen how durable Red Sox pitching has been the past two years?
I love these prediction articles not many are free like this
(I’m looking at you ESPN+!)
For the record I am biased but D-Mo played 6 different positions and had far fewer errors than Dubon. Who in comparison made nearly 3 times as many errors in the field. Thats pretty compelling evidence to say the voters got that one spot on
Lots of pressure on Boston this offseason ! Idk if they come through !?
Interesting postscript:
One of the players that Baseball Savant has rated as most similar to Tyler O'Neill (based on stats) is Rockies' first baseman, Michael Toglia, who is 3 years younger (26) and providing his similar numbers as a pre-arbitration player, earning $742,000.
Paying Tyler O'Neill $21 million for a firm jaw, ripped abs, a steely-eyed gaze and a Marine Corps haircut doesn't seem like a good trade.
Reds need to offer home town hero walker buehler a long term deal. 4/75 and they’ll get a ton of value out of that contract !
"That's what doesn't add up"...It totally "adds up" if you consider the Yankees almost certainly said "no" to the extra year and yet Cole didn't really want to leave his "forever" Yankees. This is yet another example of Scott Boras misreading the team, financial environment and the market.
Payroll is going down but look at how much payroll is coming off the books, plus if you look at how many Mets each of them individually has, it's not that crazy.
Yeah, I regret that pick. Today was a crazy day...we added Bader late and I should've thought a bit more on it.
Don’t ever count out philis on a big named free agent ! They are kings
Bc it’s a good read !
@ Drew Waters Bat..... For openers, the Mets had a payroll in the mid 300 million range this year and now have about $165- $170 mil committed to 2025. So they have room to spend big and still bring payroll down.
That said, please... show us the article or press conference where Cohen said payroll is going down tis year, per se. I'm an avid Mets' fan who thinks they SHOULD try and bring payroll down, and I'm not aware of it.
Rickey Henderson 1976
Jeff Bagwell 1989
Yadier Molina 2000
Paul Oneil 1981
Ozzie Smith 1977 / 1976
Cliff Lee 1997
Shane Bieber 2016
lets see 1970s ... yup thats a decade
1980's ... also a decade should i keep going
so what maybe 3 a decade ... thats 15 players over 50 years. so yes keep going. my guess is there maybe at most 3-4 4th rounders per decade that were all stars or truly notable. over the last 60 or 70 years so out of what roughly 300 picks a decade maybe 3 so 1%.
Anyone who thinks the Red Sox are going to spend enough money to get Corbin Burnes needs a reality check
gbs42, Exactly nobody. I wasn't trying to talk trash, rather just throwing in a little humor. It wasn't funny?
As far as baseball is concerned, the Red Sox haven't even asked where the big boys table is !! LOL
If I need to keep it to baseball let me know but it'll be tough because I'm a joker by nature. But I'll respect the suggestion because you for instance are on here quite a bit and I value your opinion. Thanks.
I’m not a “Ryan burner.” I’ve used this as my sole account for years. Used to include my full last name. So I’m sorry you’ve equated my views with the other Ryan you’re referring to.
$18 million a year for Gleyber Torres sounds like a horrible idea.
If they Jays are somewhat smart, They should pounce quickly on Shane Bieber and Paul Goldschmidt this off season.
It give them a legit Ace once he returns from rehabbing and the flexibility to play Vlad Jr. at 3B when Goldy plays 1B and someone else DH’s in the event of course, that they don’t land Bregman, which is another player that they should highly pursuit as it could help revive Springer’s career with his influence as a Jay and training together.
@longines64. He most likely going to be utility the guy. Until "no English" rendon pulls a hamstring.
Always enjoy this piece. Great work to all involved.
I'm going to go against my negative Nancy fellow Twins fans and say they take a run at Walker Buehler or Mathew Boyd and Ha-Seong Kim on 2-year deals with opt outs... They've worked with Borras in the past plus it's easier to sell a team that is completive.
Belittling? I pointed out a common grammatical error.
There will definitely be a team with a need for LHP Swingman/Mop-Up lefty who pitched well in the high altitude, big offense PCL. I would not be suprised if Rosenberg gets a 5th starters job in MLB next season. He provides length and an average Era. He doesn't walk batters and is always in the strike zone, so he has a propensity to give up the long ball.
Are we really certain about Sotos age? He could easily be 28!
No Breslow. This isn't the move.
Who do you expect the Braves to be in the running for?
This site only has a bias towards the Cubs.
The Braves have made numerous cost cutting moves since the offsesson started. That's reality that's not an opinion.
The Mets have a TON of money coming off the books. And Cohen said payroll is going down?
This is weird.
That sounds like a completely neutral outcome to me. Cole had $144M guaranteed and he's ending the situation with $144M guaranteed. It would have been the same result had he just opted in and nobody would have batted an eyelash. If he opted out entirely and got less it would be an L but that didn't happen. This was a no-win, no-lose outcome.
He will hit 300 no doubt. Those yonkos in Philly (Klentak and the baseball know it alls) screwed him up really
I see what you did there 🙂
Cubs said they are relying on internal improvements in 2025. They said this folks. You can want and wish all you want why would you ignore what they said?
LAA do not sign pitchers for more than 3 years, and only did that twice since Arte came to town.
Onesies twosies tops for any pitcher that signs in LAA, and none that actually want to win.
The tigers have certainly missed on some high draft picks
"Not 1 but 2 games"...Had the Dodgers not basically conceded game 4(with a 3-0 lead) before it started, the Yankees would have been swept. Beyond that, we can talk about "what ifs" and "would have beens" until the cows come home.
And, the Yankees' defense, swing & miss and baserunning is the gift that keeps on giving. It's available to any team that can take advantage of it.
Tell him you’re the 2nd baseman and then leave him alone.
Yea i disagree .starting pitching is and always will be the top commodity in mlb...it is an overpay but hes been very reliable the past 3 seasons..maybe you should watch the man pitch before you make such a well articulated judgement on the contract he was offered
Yeah, Adames in the order with Judge and Correa… oh, wait!
As a Braves fan it’s funny that the payroll is going up but that you all think that Atlanta will be in the running for no one good. I can see a lot of bias here. Cohen said payroll is going down but how many of the top names are for the Mets. The pay these players want they are going to price themselves right out of baseball. You play a game but in 5 years we will be talking close to a billion dollar player. Greed will ruin baseball
Why? money they have plenty of no matter what henry and company say..good prospects are much harder to obtain
This wasn't supposed to be a reply to either of you.
13 years for Soto should take him to his age 45 season
That wasn't supposed to be a reply to you. Maybe fix the site so only touching the reply button will make it reply....
For some reason, I seem to be in the minority when it comes to trusting data more than anecdotal evidence and the "eyeball test".
Anyone claiming that Tyler O'Neill offers high end base running skill is completely ignoring measurable data, as available to any and all of us, on MLB's own Baseball Savant reference site.
According to this year's data, O'Neill was in the 55th percentile among all base runners this year, which means that 55% of all major league baseball runners were as fast as, or slower than O'Neill, or, conversely, that approximately 45% of all runners were faster. Any way that you prefer to look at it, ranking in the 55th percentile means that O'Neill is pretty much an average runner - and that almost half of all players were faster in 2024.
Using the same site, you can track O'Neill throughout his entire career, beginning in 2018, with the Cardinals. Up to, and including the 2022 season, he was, in fact, a burner, ranking 17th, 8th, 7th, 16th and 16th, but, beginning in 2023, injuries appear to have taken a significant toll on O'Neill's foot speed. After a 16th fastest showing in 2022, he dropped to a 122nd fastest rank in 2023, and in this most recent season, he was ranked as the 253rd fastest runner in the game.
It's fair to believe that an injury free year in 2025 might give Tyler O'Neill an opportunity to showcase his former speed, but until then, he can't fairly be counted as a blazer on the base paths at age 29.
More interesting data on the page raises concern that O'Neill is becoming a more extreme fly ball and pull hitter, and that opposing pitchers are getting him out with a steady diet of off speed pitches.
The data shows that his fielding range is almost non-existent, ranking among the worst in baseball, and that his strikeout rate is horrendous.
Argue that his 2024 season was unrepresentative, but don't use this most recent campaign to tab him as an elite hitter, fielder, or base runner. His 2024 performance attests to none of those qualities. He looks the part of a hard-nose competitor, but he's not currently performing like a star.
While I can see the Tigers spending some money, I don't think they will touch a player with a Q.O. unless its Bregman, and I can see Boras being an obstacle as well.
It is great to see the Nationals considered as players in the free agent market again. I hope that comes to pass, because it feels like time to start prying the window of contention open again.
Again I think he was worried about getting hurt. The question is can he play without being worried.
Harrison Bader back with the Reds? Barf. The man has hit: .239-..284-.360 combined the past 3 seasons. He's not the bat they should be looking for.
As a Braves fan it's funny that the payroll is going up but that you all think that Atlanta will be in the running for no one good. I can see a lot of bias here. Cohen said payroll is going down but how many of the top names are for the Mets. The pay these players want they are going to price themselves right out of baseball. You play a game but in 5 years we will be talking close to a billion dollar player. Greed will ruin baseball.
d’Arnaud seems destined for the Cubs. They need power and an upgrade at catcher, he fits both. They are in a weird situation where they don’t have many unoccupied spots, but also don’t have any much for really good players either. d’Arnaud would at least eliminate a glaring hole in their lineup.
Ok well that is worth something. But not 21 million a year.
God forbid.
His cheering section at T-Mobile could be called… wait for it… The Blah Blah Blas.
If a random innocuous internet comment gets you this worked up you need to do some reflective thinking my brother =P
Do you realize Yankees gave the Dodgers not 1 but 2 games that would have been wins if their brain dead manager make the right moves. As bad as the Yankees played they should have been up 3-2 heading to LA for game 6. Dont fool yourself as they won 94 games with a closer who blew 14 saves plus a lineup with dead wood from 6-9. Rest assured they will have a balanced lineup better than when Soto was on the team.
I do not understand. We have so many question marks that 21 mil could have helped answer. Looks like Stuart Fairchild and Wil Benson will platoon.
Ridiculous.