At first glance, Dan Straily seems overqualified for that Korea/Japan route back into MLB, he's actually had 2 or 3 pretty solid seasons in the majors.
But, I get it, he probably sees all these crappy pitchers who dominate there and get pretty decent money and financial security to come back to the majors so he took that route.
Kind of jarring thing I've searched about the WS: Ever since 2015, the winner of game 5 in the WS has won it all. Last year was the exception when the Astros won in game 5. I do think the Dodgers finally do it.
The reason it's confusing is that the Astros used the media room like we did so we are both guilty of that minor infraction and deserve suitable punishment. The impact was minor to game results but it's cheating and it deserves punishment.
The Astros also did the real time cheating where a person ralayed decoded signals to the dugout and they conveyed the signals through banging and other methods. That's the part the Red Sox didn't do and that cheating impacted up to 90 games and 3 post season series including Boston, NYY and LAD. That's the big difference.
Baseball chose to minimize the punishment because the public did not contact their congressmen to the degree they did with steroids. So if the public doesn't appear outraged apparently there is no reason to hurt the game by suspending players or the manager and coaches behind it. The light slap on the hands to Cora, Hinch and Beltran basically told them that if they plan on cheating again, next time don't get caught.
Integrity wasn't much of a consideration in handing out the penalties. The good of the game is all that mattered. Very disappointing.
These guys were punished. Whether an owner and franchise wants that distraction is up to them. as a mets fan and watching them go through it with beltran in the winter, I personally don’t think it is worth it, but to each their own. Kind of like a franchise keeping or acquiring a domestic disturbance/abuser. Weigh the distractions and fallout with the potential reward. Some feel it’s worth the risk and the punishment has been served, others don’t think its worth it or don’t want to be connected with that baggage.
Keep in mind that the market price is determined by the intersection of supply and demand. You just described the supply. But implicitly, those five available quality shortstops come from five teams that are suddenly missing a quality shortstop, So at least some of those teams are going to be looking for a decent replacement SS at a reasonable price.
Neris should settle back in if he's moved out of the 9 spot, but in an era where good BP help can be cheap he's not worth $7 million. too much for a uncontrolled variable.
Neris is terrible and even on a team with the worst bullpen of the modern era it’s impossible to justify him pulling down $7m next year. They should try to trade him and if there are no takers simply let him go.
Can't believe I come in here and everyone is smashing on Phillips. Should've not been on the roster this, and would've been pinch hit for that, give this kid some love. Came up huge for a team that was dead if he didn't. Came in cold, big pressure spot, tough reliever. Been working his whole life to get right there. Damn. Good job, kid.
Why are we all so damned insistent on punishing people AFTER they paid the price? Instead of letting people move on we have to make sure this follows them all the way to the grave and even still we want the epitaph to read "CHEATER".That is an absurd standard to hold. Imagine if that way of thinking was applied to all of us in the work place? Would anyone have a job or even be hireable?
If Cora or Hinch land jobs at the major league level, it's fine by me.
I am okay with seeing Hinch manage again. His biggest fault in Houston was not having control of his clubhouse. According to him, he told the team to stop once but they continued to cheat. Hopefully he has grown a pair and can lay down the law if he gets hired.
I hear that the managers should be held accountable for cheating. If we apply the same standards to players then the entire city of Houston needs a 1 year vacation and not be brought back.
Here’s my issue with Buck. when I say dodger fans below, I mean myself and people I’ve spoken to who agree with me (used to live-comment games on TBLA back in the day, also led to meet ups at games). Anyways
Dodger fans have had an issue with Buck since the Cardinals+Philly matchups from 13-14 era. From the Matt stairs HR, to how he would call the Kershaw blowups vs STL+later Houston... it may not be fair, but dodger fans remember Buck seemingly jumping for joy for the big hit against LA, and in the meantime essentially celebrating the Dodgers continued struggles. The dodgers have had some massive heart breaks, and Buck seems to be the one calling it every time.
Personally, I have had the game on semi-mute most of the series, I dislike both Smoltz+Bucks calling of a game. Again, to me and others I’ve talked with, it’s not about this year. It’s about his past calls
Buck admitted he has shown an East coast bias before earlier this year, I assume they are teams he gets to watch most nights and it makes sense. Again maybe it’s not fair, but the dislike of buck has been building for many years
I get your point, but these MLB teams hire managers to manage the game. They are paid to win. If you think Cora and Hinch are the only two managers that have condoned cheating then you haven’t been around the game long. They got caught. Every player in the game relays signs “cheats” every chance they get. Managers know it.
A manager is supposed to be a role model for a team. Hiring a convicted cheater as your leader certainly sends the wrong message.
Your company wants to hire an ex-con? That's great, glad they're giving people second chances! Your company wants to hire an ex-con who committed financial crimes as the new CEO? Time to jump ship.
Again ;the A's and Astros will be much weaker next season so this is the Angels chance to impact the division! You can't play Pujols just so he can accumulate statistics for his HOF retirement as a Cardinal! Walsh is your first baseman and Pujlos the dh when Ohtani is pitching! Pujols is a pinch hitter and occasional starter at best next season!
If Upton can have an average year stat wise and Marsh or Ward do a descent job in RF this team can play with anyone! Adell needs a full year at AAA to build his confidence back! Marsh is a little older and my be ready to hit major league pitching as the backup outfielder.
Again ;the A's and Astros will be much weaker next season so this is the Angels chance to impact the division! You can't play Pujols just so he can accumulate statistics for his HOF retirement as a Cardinal! Walsh is your first baseman and Pujlos the dh when Ohtani is pitching! Pujols is a pinch hitter and occasional starter at best next season!
If Upton can have an average year stat wise and Marsh or Ward do a descent job in RF this team can play with anyone! Adell needs a full year at AAA to build his confidence back! Marsh is a little older and my be ready to hit major league pitching as the backup outfielder. Resign La Stella, 2 more mid grade starters and a couple new relievers and this should at least lock up second place in our division!
Dodgers won’t be signing bauer. Price is coming back and already have several quality starters unless one is getting delt don’t see it.
Regarding bellinger I don’t think a trade is imminent but I think he gets delt between now and free agency. Dodgers would get a huge haul and be able to extend window. If dodgers win it all don’t be surprised to see them extend seager immediately
The Astros might need to start retooling. Offer Brantley the QO, then trade him next season. Try to trade Carlos Correa, for pitching prospects. Keep Birdman and Altuve to build around them. See if you can get anything for Greinke. Don’t pull an Angels move. Even if they retool and trade players, they would still be in competition for a Playoff spot.
My dads been a fan since 1975 I watch most games. They are a poorly run franchise, plain and simple. Think one player makes them a contender is laughable. While canning and heaney have potential both are horrible inconsistent one game give up 5 runs through 5 the next 8/9 innings with 10+ strikeouts. Using era as a hallmark for success doesn’t add context. By all means add bauer I’m sure in a years time there will be excuses and blame thrown towards angels management. Problem is there inability to sign and develop players consistently also very cheap in international market despite being a top 10 franchise in terms of revenue and earnings. Until they figure this out and go back to the stonemen era of drafting and development angels with be stuck in purgatory.
Well he’s the perfect backup to the backup to the backup option for the 26th man. But good for Stevie getting another contract. Seems like a guy you’ll see coaching once he has to hang it up.
I agree completely! With Upton and Pujols still on our payroll we can't afford Bauer nor is he worth that kind of money! Philly still didn't make the playoffs with Didi and Cole with the Yankees didn't get them past Tampa Bay so spending 35 million on anyone not named Trout doesn't make sense! Spend the 40 million we have available on a couple proven starters and 2 more relievers and sign LaStella and we should be no worse than second in our division! Walsh is gonna be a game changer at first base! He was solid at AAA the past 2 seasons.
Remember Huston is loosing Springer and Reddick and Grienke is not the same and Verlander is out! Oakland is loosing Semium and La Stella and Davis has regressed big time and who knows when Chapman will be back? We may even be good enough to win the division if Bundy performs the same and the other starters duplicate this past seasons numbers!
Are you joking when you refer to Joe Buck's bias as conspiracy?? It is blatantly obvious, I thought he was going to rub one out on air during a Yankees game once. If he is not biased it is even worse, because it comes across as though he is so strongly.
Id take a retired player with vast personal experience in the game over him any day.
Just ask yourself this: Since Miguel Cabrera is the feature player and automatically batting 3rd for the next three years, is Tiger ownership/management dedicated to building a winning team and will the Manager even matter?
So, let the Tigers hire a homeless person like the Lions did.
You may be right but it has been widely reported that Cora is the leading candidate. Whether that is based on pure speculation or some specific knowledge is anyone’s guess. The question is if not Cora, then who?
There are only 3 managerial jobs open currently, Tigers, Red Sox and White Sox. At this point, unlikely another manager gets fired and creates another opening. IF the White Sox are crazy enough to actually hire LaRussa, that leaves it wide open for the Tigers to go get Hinch. But these interviews are not just window dressing. No guarantee Hinch will want the job. Tigers have a lot of good young players coming up, but that will mean at least a couple more painful years before they are ready to contend. Hinch may prefer to wait a year to see if an opening on a team more ready to contend opens up. Heck, the White Sox might come to their senses here soon as well. So Avila has to have a plan B. Mendoza is probably not a plan B, does not have that much experience, which is something Avila has stated he wants in his next manager.
Hinch owned up to his role in the scandal and served his suspension. He's a good manager who has developed players and someone is going to hire him whether it is the Tigers or another team
It has been proven time and time again across sports that if you are good enough at your job, there will always be another opportunity for you regardless of your transgressions (outside of murder).
That said, I completely agree that it’s a bit odd both could feasibly get jobs so soon. I would have thought they’d have to spend a season or two as someone’s bench coach before being entrusted to manage a team.
Personally, I think Ron Washington’s name should be right there with both Cora and Hinch. I’d hate for him to leave Atlanta, but the man deserves another managerial job if he wants it.
I'm not convinced Cora is the leading candidate for the Red Sox. Bloom has zero connection to Cora. Cora was hired by the previous regime. Bloom is trying to put his own stamp on the organization and that very well may mean that he wants his own guy to be manager. That would mean someone other than Cora
I came here to say the same. I mean, I hope Phillips DOES become a good player for the Rays. He seems like an incredible guy, and he’ll remember last night for the rest of his life. I loved his interview after the game and I’m happy for him.
But right now on the surface, he isn’t much more than a 4th-5th outfielder that made the roster for his defense and just happened to have an incredibly clutch hit in his only at bat during the last 3 weeks. This can’t really be considered another Rays heist unless and until he becomes an everyday player, although he’s young enough and still has the upside to do so.
Totally agree. Can’t just start praising every move they made. The Rays should’ve lost that game if Roberts was a little better at using a bullpen. Cash mismanaged too. If he hadn’t have used all the guys on his bench, phillips would’ve been pinch hit for in a heartbeat.
Fair enough. I was going by pitch tracker on MLB.com, which has the pitch solidly within the strike zone. I demonstrated this is the above post. As I can see on the video, however, it bounces in… Not sure how that happened. I thought pitch tracker was reliable.
it was a great hit, dont get me wrong, and credit to him for it. but dont go praising the move as another masterstroke by the Rays. the way he was playing he really shouldn't have made the WS roster.
Fair enough. I was going by pitch tracker on MLB.com, which has the pitch solidly within the strike zone. As I can see on the video, however, it bounces in... Not sure how that happened. I thought pitch tracker was reliable.
This guy is one of the best guys around. He leaves it all out there. Hopefully he will be a late bloomer and put it together like Yaz did San Francisco.
Go to MLB.com. In the upper left-hand of the page, change the score date to 10/24. Select the box score for last night's game. Now select "Plays." On the left you will see scoring plays. On the right you will see play by play. Select the 9th inning from the play by play. Scroll down to Arozarena. Click on the down arrow where it says Walk. Look to the far right where it has a strike zone. Click on the Strike Zone. There are the pitch locations for all seven pitches. Number seven is green, which means it was called a ball. As you will see, it is well within the strike zone. I rest my case.
Exactly sorayablue - Being upset at Cora, Luhnow, and Hinch doesn't mean we feels the players should have skated by with no punishment. Far from the case.
If you're using the 8 million per WAR, that has been disproven. The Athletic did an article showing that including relief pitchers skewed the results. The numbers are in between 4 and 5 million with higher WAR players getting closer to 5 million and lower WAR players getting closer to 4 million. That being said 19 million is a fair price for him.
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At first glance, Dan Straily seems overqualified for that Korea/Japan route back into MLB, he's actually had 2 or 3 pretty solid seasons in the majors.
But, I get it, he probably sees all these crappy pitchers who dominate there and get pretty decent money and financial security to come back to the majors so he took that route.
Kind of jarring thing I've searched about the WS: Ever since 2015, the winner of game 5 in the WS has won it all. Last year was the exception when the Astros won in game 5. I do think the Dodgers finally do it.
Nice to hear Straily became a star in Korea. Hope he can come back and put on that same performance!
Dodgers win in six, Phillips is never heard from again. Such a spoiler, I know.
The reason it's confusing is that the Astros used the media room like we did so we are both guilty of that minor infraction and deserve suitable punishment. The impact was minor to game results but it's cheating and it deserves punishment.
The Astros also did the real time cheating where a person ralayed decoded signals to the dugout and they conveyed the signals through banging and other methods. That's the part the Red Sox didn't do and that cheating impacted up to 90 games and 3 post season series including Boston, NYY and LAD. That's the big difference.
Baseball chose to minimize the punishment because the public did not contact their congressmen to the degree they did with steroids. So if the public doesn't appear outraged apparently there is no reason to hurt the game by suspending players or the manager and coaches behind it. The light slap on the hands to Cora, Hinch and Beltran basically told them that if they plan on cheating again, next time don't get caught.
Integrity wasn't much of a consideration in handing out the penalties. The good of the game is all that mattered. Very disappointing.
I think we’re going to see teams spending far less than in recent years due to uncertainty with fan attendance and fans boycotting sports.
These guys were punished. Whether an owner and franchise wants that distraction is up to them. as a mets fan and watching them go through it with beltran in the winter, I personally don’t think it is worth it, but to each their own. Kind of like a franchise keeping or acquiring a domestic disturbance/abuser. Weigh the distractions and fallout with the potential reward. Some feel it’s worth the risk and the punishment has been served, others don’t think its worth it or don’t want to be connected with that baggage.
Good post. Your point is well received with me.
Why every team does it
Is Beltrán just screwed forever? He deserves it I suppose it’s just wild.
stop walking people!
A convicted cheater? Ex con? Hyperbole much?
Hinch didn't have a balls to stop it. He didn't have control of the clubhouse. Cora played a key role in the cheating.
Keep in mind that the market price is determined by the intersection of supply and demand. You just described the supply. But implicitly, those five available quality shortstops come from five teams that are suddenly missing a quality shortstop, So at least some of those teams are going to be looking for a decent replacement SS at a reasonable price.
if they are let back in the game,then Pete Rose should have been let in.
I think Luhnow should have a job, but not Cora or Hinch. Both are weak leaders if they didn't stop the cheating.
Neris should settle back in if he's moved out of the 9 spot, but in an era where good BP help can be cheap he's not worth $7 million. too much for a uncontrolled variable.
This is obviously not about making a good move. It’s about just getting past the Mendoza line.
What an original comment!
Neris is terrible and even on a team with the worst bullpen of the modern era it’s impossible to justify him pulling down $7m next year. They should try to trade him and if there are no takers simply let him go.
AJ Hinch paid for everyone else's transgressions. Don't try to say he deserves even more.
Can't believe I come in here and everyone is smashing on Phillips. Should've not been on the roster this, and would've been pinch hit for that, give this kid some love. Came up huge for a team that was dead if he didn't. Came in cold, big pressure spot, tough reliever. Been working his whole life to get right there. Damn. Good job, kid.
Why are we all so damned insistent on punishing people AFTER they paid the price? Instead of letting people move on we have to make sure this follows them all the way to the grave and even still we want the epitaph to read "CHEATER".That is an absurd standard to hold. Imagine if that way of thinking was applied to all of us in the work place? Would anyone have a job or even be hireable?
If Cora or Hinch land jobs at the major league level, it's fine by me.
Luis Robert will become another Willie Mays, he is that talented.. Power,speed, arm, fielding y0u name it.
I am okay with seeing Hinch manage again. His biggest fault in Houston was not having control of his clubhouse. According to him, he told the team to stop once but they continued to cheat. Hopefully he has grown a pair and can lay down the law if he gets hired.
I hear that the managers should be held accountable for cheating. If we apply the same standards to players then the entire city of Houston needs a 1 year vacation and not be brought back.
Maybe.
This thread went Buck Wild.
Good game tonight, though.
No problem.
Here’s my issue with Buck. when I say dodger fans below, I mean myself and people I’ve spoken to who agree with me (used to live-comment games on TBLA back in the day, also led to meet ups at games). Anyways
Dodger fans have had an issue with Buck since the Cardinals+Philly matchups from 13-14 era. From the Matt stairs HR, to how he would call the Kershaw blowups vs STL+later Houston... it may not be fair, but dodger fans remember Buck seemingly jumping for joy for the big hit against LA, and in the meantime essentially celebrating the Dodgers continued struggles. The dodgers have had some massive heart breaks, and Buck seems to be the one calling it every time.
Personally, I have had the game on semi-mute most of the series, I dislike both Smoltz+Bucks calling of a game. Again, to me and others I’ve talked with, it’s not about this year. It’s about his past calls
Buck admitted he has shown an East coast bias before earlier this year, I assume they are teams he gets to watch most nights and it makes sense. Again maybe it’s not fair, but the dislike of buck has been building for many years
How would Harvey Haddix’s perfect game for 12 innings been affected by that stupid rule?
Planning on contending: offer it and hope he accepts.
Not sure of the plan: let him walk.
He’s far too consistent of a hitter to let walk over a $3 million raise.
I get your point, but these MLB teams hire managers to manage the game. They are paid to win. If you think Cora and Hinch are the only two managers that have condoned cheating then you haven’t been around the game long. They got caught. Every player in the game relays signs “cheats” every chance they get. Managers know it.
If everyone in baseball who has cheated, was to not be given a second chance, baseball would be no more.
@Lou. I already explained why I included players not drafted by these teams.
Robles is very overrated and I am a Nationals fan.
Role Model?? To grown men?? GMAFB!!
A manager is supposed to be a role model for a team. Hiring a convicted cheater as your leader certainly sends the wrong message.
Your company wants to hire an ex-con? That's great, glad they're giving people second chances! Your company wants to hire an ex-con who committed financial crimes as the new CEO? Time to jump ship.
Again ;the A's and Astros will be much weaker next season so this is the Angels chance to impact the division! You can't play Pujols just so he can accumulate statistics for his HOF retirement as a Cardinal! Walsh is your first baseman and Pujlos the dh when Ohtani is pitching! Pujols is a pinch hitter and occasional starter at best next season!
If Upton can have an average year stat wise and Marsh or Ward do a descent job in RF this team can play with anyone! Adell needs a full year at AAA to build his confidence back! Marsh is a little older and my be ready to hit major league pitching as the backup outfielder.
Again ;the A's and Astros will be much weaker next season so this is the Angels chance to impact the division! You can't play Pujols just so he can accumulate statistics for his HOF retirement as a Cardinal! Walsh is your first baseman and Pujlos the dh when Ohtani is pitching! Pujols is a pinch hitter and occasional starter at best next season!
If Upton can have an average year stat wise and Marsh or Ward do a descent job in RF this team can play with anyone! Adell needs a full year at AAA to build his confidence back! Marsh is a little older and my be ready to hit major league pitching as the backup outfielder. Resign La Stella, 2 more mid grade starters and a couple new relievers and this should at least lock up second place in our division!
The guy pulled a Francisco Cabrera!
Agree. Jon Daniels and Woodward got to go...and time to promote the youngsters to get experience if they are rebuilding.
You can have him. . .. he is an adequate manager at best
I believe that the Tigers will go with Hinch..... White Sox with LaRussa and the Red Sox with Cora.
Why? The will have served their suspension. No different than a player that gets suspended for PED’s and rejoins the team to play. Right?
Has there been any word on whether or not Bochy is willing to be interviewed?
If Hinch or Cora get hired it will be an awful look for the game.
Bregman not Birdman, stupid autocorrect
I predict the White Sox sign AJ Hinch 2 or 3 days after the World Series
Dodgers won’t be signing bauer. Price is coming back and already have several quality starters unless one is getting delt don’t see it.
Regarding bellinger I don’t think a trade is imminent but I think he gets delt between now and free agency. Dodgers would get a huge haul and be able to extend window. If dodgers win it all don’t be surprised to see them extend seager immediately
The Astros might need to start retooling. Offer Brantley the QO, then trade him next season. Try to trade Carlos Correa, for pitching prospects. Keep Birdman and Altuve to build around them. See if you can get anything for Greinke. Don’t pull an Angels move. Even if they retool and trade players, they would still be in competition for a Playoff spot.
My dads been a fan since 1975 I watch most games. They are a poorly run franchise, plain and simple. Think one player makes them a contender is laughable. While canning and heaney have potential both are horrible inconsistent one game give up 5 runs through 5 the next 8/9 innings with 10+ strikeouts. Using era as a hallmark for success doesn’t add context. By all means add bauer I’m sure in a years time there will be excuses and blame thrown towards angels management. Problem is there inability to sign and develop players consistently also very cheap in international market despite being a top 10 franchise in terms of revenue and earnings. Until they figure this out and go back to the stonemen era of drafting and development angels with be stuck in purgatory.
Well he’s the perfect backup to the backup to the backup option for the 26th man. But good for Stevie getting another contract. Seems like a guy you’ll see coaching once he has to hang it up.
I agree completely! With Upton and Pujols still on our payroll we can't afford Bauer nor is he worth that kind of money! Philly still didn't make the playoffs with Didi and Cole with the Yankees didn't get them past Tampa Bay so spending 35 million on anyone not named Trout doesn't make sense! Spend the 40 million we have available on a couple proven starters and 2 more relievers and sign LaStella and we should be no worse than second in our division! Walsh is gonna be a game changer at first base! He was solid at AAA the past 2 seasons.
Remember Huston is loosing Springer and Reddick and Grienke is not the same and Verlander is out! Oakland is loosing Semium and La Stella and Davis has regressed big time and who knows when Chapman will be back? We may even be good enough to win the division if Bundy performs the same and the other starters duplicate this past seasons numbers!
Saving that $
Trading a free agent would be a heck of a trick...
Are you joking when you refer to Joe Buck's bias as conspiracy?? It is blatantly obvious, I thought he was going to rub one out on air during a Yankees game once. If he is not biased it is even worse, because it comes across as though he is so strongly.
Id take a retired player with vast personal experience in the game over him any day.
She’s so full of hot air and overrated!
Is that when your label becomes official as well?
But John Henry LOVE Alex Cora, and he just might have a bigger say in the matter.....
Besides, if Bloom doesn't find himself some pitching, the Sox can hire Jessica Mendoza , never mind Carlos.
Come to think of it, the marketing opportunities of hiring Jessica might be limitless....yep, Jess, welcome to Red Sox Nation.
I can't call a grown man "Stevie" unless it's Stevie Wonder...
He is 24 and showed nothing at the big leauge level. Next year it becomes official.
Ron Washington has an outstanding baseball mind and is well respected in and out of the game of baseball.
Lol what is that math? It's less than 3 oz
Just ask yourself this: Since Miguel Cabrera is the feature player and automatically batting 3rd for the next three years, is Tiger ownership/management dedicated to building a winning team and will the Manager even matter?
So, let the Tigers hire a homeless person like the Lions did.
You may be right but it has been widely reported that Cora is the leading candidate. Whether that is based on pure speculation or some specific knowledge is anyone’s guess. The question is if not Cora, then who?
As long as the deputy is unharmed
There are only 3 managerial jobs open currently, Tigers, Red Sox and White Sox. At this point, unlikely another manager gets fired and creates another opening. IF the White Sox are crazy enough to actually hire LaRussa, that leaves it wide open for the Tigers to go get Hinch. But these interviews are not just window dressing. No guarantee Hinch will want the job. Tigers have a lot of good young players coming up, but that will mean at least a couple more painful years before they are ready to contend. Hinch may prefer to wait a year to see if an opening on a team more ready to contend opens up. Heck, the White Sox might come to their senses here soon as well. So Avila has to have a plan B. Mendoza is probably not a plan B, does not have that much experience, which is something Avila has stated he wants in his next manager.
Hinch owned up to his role in the scandal and served his suspension. He's a good manager who has developed players and someone is going to hire him whether it is the Tigers or another team
It has been proven time and time again across sports that if you are good enough at your job, there will always be another opportunity for you regardless of your transgressions (outside of murder).
That said, I completely agree that it’s a bit odd both could feasibly get jobs so soon. I would have thought they’d have to spend a season or two as someone’s bench coach before being entrusted to manage a team.
Personally, I think Ron Washington’s name should be right there with both Cora and Hinch. I’d hate for him to leave Atlanta, but the man deserves another managerial job if he wants it.
I'm not convinced Cora is the leading candidate for the Red Sox. Bloom has zero connection to Cora. Cora was hired by the previous regime. Bloom is trying to put his own stamp on the organization and that very well may mean that he wants his own guy to be manager. That would mean someone other than Cora
Not the marlins fan who actually thinks it would have lasted
As GM, you have to worry about what is best for your team...
Tigers please sign Cora so that Red Sox can’t......lol
Signing either Hinch or Cora now is simply bad for the sport.
Tigers...time to make a good baseball move...sign Hinch....best manager available....everyone gets a second chance
I came here to say the same. I mean, I hope Phillips DOES become a good player for the Rays. He seems like an incredible guy, and he’ll remember last night for the rest of his life. I loved his interview after the game and I’m happy for him.
But right now on the surface, he isn’t much more than a 4th-5th outfielder that made the roster for his defense and just happened to have an incredibly clutch hit in his only at bat during the last 3 weeks. This can’t really be considered another Rays heist unless and until he becomes an everyday player, although he’s young enough and still has the upside to do so.
How do you get rid of a shift?? Its called hit the ball where they aint ,and the shift ends
At the time, I commented “Hope he got the memo.”
Nope, they should trade him back to Cleveland.
Sell the team Arte!
At this point I don't expect anything from Arte Moreno
I hope the dodgers just start shoving the rays off bases too holy hell
If no one makes any kind of Batman joke in regards to Lucius Fox I'm disappointed.
Too soon to call it anything but luck.
At least DH been used in World Series and expanded Rosters to.
Best laugh in baseball!
When exactly did Brendan Rodgers become a bust?
Totally agree. Can’t just start praising every move they made. The Rays should’ve lost that game if Roberts was a little better at using a bullpen. Cash mismanaged too. If he hadn’t have used all the guys on his bench, phillips would’ve been pinch hit for in a heartbeat.
yandymania
Fair enough. I was going by pitch tracker on MLB.com, which has the pitch solidly within the strike zone. I demonstrated this is the above post. As I can see on the video, however, it bounces in… Not sure how that happened. I thought pitch tracker was reliable.
it was a great hit, dont get me wrong, and credit to him for it. but dont go praising the move as another masterstroke by the Rays. the way he was playing he really shouldn't have made the WS roster.
yandymania
Fair enough. I was going by pitch tracker on MLB.com, which has the pitch solidly within the strike zone. As I can see on the video, however, it bounces in... Not sure how that happened. I thought pitch tracker was reliable.
This guy is one of the best guys around. He leaves it all out there. Hopefully he will be a late bloomer and put it together like Yaz did San Francisco.
yandymania
Go to MLB.com. In the upper left-hand of the page, change the score date to 10/24. Select the box score for last night's game. Now select "Plays." On the left you will see scoring plays. On the right you will see play by play. Select the 9th inning from the play by play. Scroll down to Arozarena. Click on the down arrow where it says Walk. Look to the far right where it has a strike zone. Click on the Strike Zone. There are the pitch locations for all seven pitches. Number seven is green, which means it was called a ball. As you will see, it is well within the strike zone. I rest my case.
Huh? When have Giants said their core is young? That is a weird out of left field comment.
I think their only free agent signing for 2003 was Ivan Rodriguez.
Exactly sorayablue - Being upset at Cora, Luhnow, and Hinch doesn't mean we feels the players should have skated by with no punishment. Far from the case.
Compensation picks come after the second round. It's the competitive balance picks that come between the first and second rounds.
If you're using the 8 million per WAR, that has been disproven. The Athletic did an article showing that including relief pitchers skewed the results. The numbers are in between 4 and 5 million with higher WAR players getting closer to 5 million and lower WAR players getting closer to 4 million. That being said 19 million is a fair price for him.
For years, I have been saying that Tom Brady doesn’t kick enough anything!