Sorry, meant to say Starting Pitchers. Nonetheless you have made my point; Astros acquired a future Hall of Famer (Verlander), a Hall of Very Good (Greinke) and a former 1st overall pick with ace stuff (Cole).
Yankees settle for #3s with a chance to be #2s. Houston's all about winning, the Yankees are all about hoping to win. Big difference kid. Yankees have become the team of settling with the exception of their stellar bullpen Boone continues to run into the ground. I don't blame him since his starting pitching is inferior.
That package won't get Lindor let alone Lindor and Clevinger. The Yankee farm system is a bottom half system. Remember the Indians are a contender as well. Why would they trade Clevinger and Lindor for prospects and two DH's. You really over value the Yankee system.
Deal Happ to Toronto for Randal Grichuk. Jays would be stupid not to make that deal, allow Happ to start and mentor the young guys and get rid of Grichuk's salary. Happ would be a simple stopgap.
Not really true. Both series had a run differential of +1
Astros 19 to Rays 18
Astros 22 to Yanks 21
Aside from Game 1 where the Yanks won 7-0 and game 4 where the Astros won 8-3 the rest of the 3 games were decided by a avg difference of 2 runs or with Houston scoring14 and the Yanks 10 Aside from the blowout 10-3 the Rays won the differential in the other games were Houston scoring 16 to the Rays 8. I think the Yanks played the Astros tougher.
I'm too polite to respond. OK, I'm lying. Best laugh I've had to a comment in a while. She just loves his fastballs, so probably something alluring enough to smuggle JV, Cole, Altuve and Springer to Anaheim.?
Buck is definitely a tool. Not sure why he was building up the Judge play on D. Of course he didn't seem to mind the baserunning mistake on Brantley's outstanding catch. John Smoltz can also be muted.
It was and it wasn't. The Brewers lost three of his last five starts, including allowing five runs in the playoffs and four runs (3 unearned) in a game on short rest.
He clearly was great for them, but down the stretch he had two good games, one bad game and one mediocre game. .
it cashman's damn job. he has more resources at his disposal than anyone else.
why do you two guys plus begamin not get it?
No matter what you say, no what matter what stat you provide. his team has lost again. He passed on those guys.... It was his judgement... he didn't want to trade.... he didn't want to pay....yada yada yada. its irrelevant
It's him, he is responsible again. Cashman. its his damn job.
Yeah but the statement was dominance over the entirety of the carrer when in actually it was only 5/6 year out of the entire career. Definitely not Dominant over the entire span
Comparing all those players outside of Scherzer and Strasburg with the 2001 D-Backs is a huge reach... Miller/Suzuki and Sanders/Eaton have nothing to do with each other.
your living in an illusion if you are comparing the philosophical constructs of the 2 teams. In the 2 games the yank sp went more than 5 IP they won. If the 4 they didn't they lost. I count the BP game b/c they chose not to start their terrible 4th SP.
Stop with German. He is not an ace or difference maker and would not have mattered. He would not even make the rotation on a championship team. You're not being impartial about the Yankees staff one bit and are buying the hype.
If the anointed genius acquires the players and the players fail- he has done a poor job finding the right players. There is a reason DJ succeeds and Encarcnacion doesn't. BUT ITS HIS JOB. its what he is supposedly paid to do. He has failed.
The Angels will need to be $200M with Cole, arbitration and a couple bit players and they'll need to find 10-15 wins of production even after that because most of their roster was bad this year.
I disagree, he was dominant in his peak. His ERA is pulled up by the earlier latter years of his career when he was more of a 3/4/5, but he was an ace at his peak.
122-57 with a 3.14 ERA, 219 Ks per year and a 140 ERA+ from 2006-2012
Greinke is good but not great, and Verlander in the last year of his contract. A's, like the Astros, are good offensively, but the pitching staff has some question marks. This is certainly the time for the Angels to pounce.
Let Didi and Encarnacion and Brett Gardner go.
(Did not see them producing in the playoffs offensively)
Use money to extend Lindor
Go for it Yankees!
RHSP Mike Cevlinger and SS Francisco Lindor to the NYY
Sign Lindor to an 6 year extension
Andujar, Frazier Deivi Garcia, Montgomery, Florial and some other minor league prospects to the Indians.
to the Indians.
Pick up a few more clutch WS utility players/hitters...
Am I the only person thinking the Nats on here? Shouldn't have beaten the Brewers, certainly shouldn't have seen off the Dodgers, shouldn't have swept the Cards. I know the phrase "playing loose" is overused but in spite of the Astros having an advantage almost everywhere positionally I think the Nats have a punchers chance provided by their pitching throughout. And, sweet Auntie Marjorie, they are playing loose.
106-71 as an Indian, plus a Cy Young. 134-88 as a Yankee and only three All-Star appearances (none since 2012).
I hear what you're saying, but as I said, it is a close call. He was definitely the more consistently dominant pitcher in CLE, hands-down. But he played much longer in NY.
I could really see either and think this would make a good MLBTR article.
Am I the only person thinking the Nats on here? Shouldn't have beaten the Brewers, certainly shouldn't have seen off the Dodgers, shouldn't have swept the Cards. I know the phrase "playing loose" is overused but in spite of the Astros having an advantage almost everywhere positionally I think the Nats have a punchers chance provided by their pitching throughout. And, sweet Auntie Marjorie, they are playing loose.
On Ketel Marte’s flexibility...I hope the Dbacks trade for a CF to get Marte off the artificial turf. Whether or not the new artificial turf caused or contributed to the stress reaction in his back, I don’t think it wise to risk the health of your star player. So move him back to 2b.
Sherman wrote an article last June or July when he proposed trading Indians reject Frazier and a few flunkies for Trevor Bauer. At the end he mentioned that since the Indians needed an OF (they didn't), the Yankees could throw in a bench player (I don't recall the guy...Tauchman?) and in turn the Yankees could take Shane Bieber off their hands as a favor. At age 24, Bieber went on to become the team Ace, won 15 games with a 3.28 ERA, 259 K's in 186 innings, a WAR of 4.9.....and was MVP of the All-Star game.
I love Sherman's writing. But he has this NYC arrogance where everything Yankees is superior, and all the FO people in small and some medium markets are slow and should be grateful to make trades with the mighty Yankees.......for the record - both the Indians and Royals went to the playoff's more in the 2010's then the Yankees, and both made the WS, with the Royals winning one.
You are right, Bully, Boone has a pretty good regular season. But he was out managed in the playoffs. Boone did some dumb things like not playing his infield in at the right times. He also shouldn’t have started Green in Game 6 and his lineups were pretty awful throughout the series.
Verlander would need about 20 wins for the next for the next 4 years. Or 15 in his next 5. Both of those seem high unlikely considering he will be in his 40’s by then. But who knows
I don't know about you, but I can hear it. With the stadium mics being turned up for the postseason, I can hear the crack of the bat. Sounds totally different. Correa's HR to LF in Game 4 sounded like he hit a cement truck.
No "thawck" sound. Just a thud.
Had a regular season ball been used, that probably would've been 400+ft. Looking at the replay, he got all of it.
The Phillies should spend more time getting pitching than they should anything else. You can't ask a manager to get a team to the postseason without reliable pitching.
Yes, that is probably what they are doing. But a very small, very controlled (only 2 games with more than 3.2 innings pitched) 5 game month against September call-ups does not "sky-high potential" make, and playoffs are historically seen as heavily abnormality. This is especially true when it all came directly on the heals of a disastrous August which made regression a logical possibility. (In hindsight, however, that August of 6 games and 27ip with a 1.67 whip and 5.70 era does look fairly similar to the results of 2019)
But more to the point, I'm sure we can find an endless list of even garbage starters that had a fantastic very small stretch, and rarely ever would we call that sky-high potential. When results are so out of line with a players long shown norm like that, that is instead generally labeled a fluke.
Washington only is their because they are lucky Corbin is the worst pitcher in nationals rotation is overrated Sonny pitch a lot better 11-7 2.86 era, Milwaukee deserve more to be in the world series
You think 2-3 extra years of control makes Gleyber equal to Lindor. Gleyber has good games. Lindor literally influences every single game he plays. And when it's time to trade him, the Indians will get a Kings Ransom for him. The young man is very probably the best all-around SS in MLB.
More $$$$ in New York. Cleveland groomed him to be the man he became and then moved on to a highly paid stacked lineup that helped getting those numbers easier.
You’re 100% right. Arte puts his best deal on the table for a short window, because he doesn’t want to have his offer shopped by the other party. Boras will wait until January if he feels it is necessary.
I have said this repeatedly: The Angels will make Cole a huge offer. It most likely won’t be the biggest one he gets. It is up to him if he wants to make tens of millions annually and live/work close to where he grew up, or take a few million more to play elsewhere. As always, it is up to the player. The agent just does what the player asks.
Some real mounting evidence that the MLB is using a more dead ball for this postseason. Didi to RF in game 4 and Martin Maldonado’s warning track shot in the same game looked like they would “normally” carry out of Yankee stadium. I’m sure there are more cases as well.
Not convinced that Preller is the guy to take the Padres to the WS and win it.
Loaded farm and then he trades at least 2 very good young major league p[layers and prospects for a future question mark prospect?!
Now, Preller wants to hire a manager from guys he formerly worked with in the Rangers organization?!
Washington would be an OK choice, but he has never won the trophy as an experienced manager with a loaded Rangers roster.
The other guy is a lottery ticket with no major league managing experience like the guy he just fired.?
How about interviewing Girardi?! Schowalter?! Manuel?! Joe Espada?!
If Preller blows this hire then he could be the next one out the door...
So basically you create a position that Cole has never taken and a situation that will likely not come up. .
Cole will pitch the 22nd. And then are the Astros going to pitch him on short rest twice? Otherwise, what's the point?
Cole has never had to pitch on short rest,
At the end of 2008, Sabathia pitched on short rest three times. Maybe they would have been better off having him on full rest twice and perhaps have him for two games in the NLDS.
Mac - I disagree that we are a couple years away. If we get Cole, that means the Astros lost him. Things can change quickly and if we finally get serious about our pitching staff and getting a solid catcher, I think we're close. We have a good mix of vets and rookies who are really good. Upton is our weakest vet. Pujols got close to 200 RBIs over the last 2 seasons and his BA was better this year. Nothing this winter should come before our rotation is addressed in a meaningful way.
Greinke and Cole both have a pretty good record against DC the last few years, but DC has a pretty good record against the Astros in interleague play. The Nats haven't seen Verlander in awhile.
@Hitters with cohones who don’t just tee off on bad Baltimore pitching,
How does one find cohones on a scouting sheet? The problem is that we are all judging things after the fact. Both DJ and Torres missed RBI ooportunties that could've won the two games we were tied.
Here's my point. GMS GO AFTER PLAYERS THAT INDICATE THEY SHOULD DO WELL.
Both the Astros and Yanks saw their best hitters fail to hit in the post-season. DJ and Torres came up lame a couple of time too. A lot of these players played below their norm. Not the Gms fault.
I think that with a full up to speed Severino and German being availlable the Yanks were good enough to beat the Astros. They choked. Players have to their jobs and when they fail it shouldn't be on the GM. Paxton, Tanaka and Severino pitched relatively well. Tanaka had a a 2.45 vs Astros. Paxton had a 2.16 and Severino had a 4.15. I wonder what Severino could've done if he had another 10 starts headed into post-season or had German for a couple of starts. This series wasn't a blowout where the Astros proved they were in another atmosphere vs the Yanks.
I think Verlander has a outside shot ( I think he ends up with 260-280), but would agree that with the way that the game is currently played 300 wins likely isn't going to happen....however there was a time that people thought that Early Wynn would be the last 300 game winner and there have been plenty that have followed him., though the gap was around 20 years.
As for the hall of fame, I think CC will get in though I also think that he's part of a block of very good pitchers who could go either way. LIke Kaat, Tommy John, Dennis Martinez, Pettitte, Colon. I also believe that he's better then a number that are already in the hall like Morris.
He was solid but as his era shows more of a 3/4. Had a couple great years with brewers and indians but mostly just a solid everyday pitchers who gives you 200+ innings a year. Dominant definitely not.
I was just telling a friend about CC's Milwaukee tenure as he was asking if I thought Gerrit Cole would pitch on short rest in the World Series due to his upcoming free agency and I said it takes a guy who only cares about winning and the last guy I could remember doing it was CC, who carried that Milwaukee team that year. He definitely was a guy you could respect in the clubhouse.
Lol, so he's willing to let his team not be as good because the Rays and Pirates will get $3M each? That's a really dumb justification to not make sure your team has everything it needs to win a world series title.
The Astros' payroll with Cole this year is around 169m-ish and the tax line is 208m. They wouldn't come close to it if they kept him and paid him more money.
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Sorry, meant to say Starting Pitchers. Nonetheless you have made my point; Astros acquired a future Hall of Famer (Verlander), a Hall of Very Good (Greinke) and a former 1st overall pick with ace stuff (Cole).
Yankees settle for #3s with a chance to be #2s. Houston's all about winning, the Yankees are all about hoping to win. Big difference kid. Yankees have become the team of settling with the exception of their stellar bullpen Boone continues to run into the ground. I don't blame him since his starting pitching is inferior.
All I want for Xmas is for the Brockstar to stay with Boston
That package won't get Lindor let alone Lindor and Clevinger. The Yankee farm system is a bottom half system. Remember the Indians are a contender as well. Why would they trade Clevinger and Lindor for prospects and two DH's. You really over value the Yankee system.
Deal Happ to Toronto for Randal Grichuk. Jays would be stupid not to make that deal, allow Happ to start and mentor the young guys and get rid of Grichuk's salary. Happ would be a simple stopgap.
@WereAllJustGuestsHere
Traded for Grey, traded for Paxton and traded for Happ and Britton..but let's not let facts interfere. Continue.
If MLB knew how many people muted their National Broadcasters in favor of their hometown radio broadcast, they'd probably be in utter shock.
Then again, it could just be a cruel joke Manfred is playing on us.
Not a Dodgers or Giants fan, but both Vin Scully and Jon Miller can call a game and I'm all ears for those guys.
You tried this trade in another thread and it did not make sense then.
@Bernie's Dander
Not really true. Both series had a run differential of +1
Astros 19 to Rays 18
Astros 22 to Yanks 21
Aside from Game 1 where the Yanks won 7-0 and game 4 where the Astros won 8-3 the rest of the 3 games were decided by a avg difference of 2 runs or with Houston scoring14 and the Yanks 10 Aside from the blowout 10-3 the Rays won the differential in the other games were Houston scoring 16 to the Rays 8. I think the Yanks played the Astros tougher.
I'm too polite to respond. OK, I'm lying. Best laugh I've had to a comment in a while. She just loves his fastballs, so probably something alluring enough to smuggle JV, Cole, Altuve and Springer to Anaheim.?
I think you can make a pretty good case either way.
I think it's hard to make a case he was better than Kevin Brown I think it's easy to make a case he was better than Catfish Hunter.
You are an idiot.
I love how you guys still view Frazier as having a lot of value. The Indians already gave him up once, too. What makes you think they want him back?
Buck is definitely a tool. Not sure why he was building up the Judge play on D. Of course he didn't seem to mind the baserunning mistake on Brantley's outstanding catch. John Smoltz can also be muted.
Andujar won’t be traded right away he’ll have to come back from surgery and prove he is healthy, only then can NY explore trade possibi.ities
It was and it wasn't. The Brewers lost three of his last five starts, including allowing five runs in the playoffs and four runs (3 unearned) in a game on short rest.
He clearly was great for them, but down the stretch he had two good games, one bad game and one mediocre game. .
Not just figuring it out.
Have known if for awhile.
Being Diplomatic.
Nooiiiiiii
Star in the making? Much like Harrison Bourjos?
Not a chance moving Happ, Montgomery takes his place next year with Happ a spot starter when needed.
True, Polish. Speaks even more to CC's longevity considering same. Heck of a career, hard not to see him as a HOFer.
They had time? Angels fired there guy and swooped in fast
Wow just figuring out now Preller isn’t guy? “They say Detroit audiences are greatest I said s I have known that for years” Bob Seger...sorry carry on
it cashman's damn job. he has more resources at his disposal than anyone else.
why do you two guys plus begamin not get it?
No matter what you say, no what matter what stat you provide. his team has lost again. He passed on those guys.... It was his judgement... he didn't want to trade.... he didn't want to pay....yada yada yada. its irrelevant
It's him, he is responsible again. Cashman. its his damn job.
Sandy Koufax???
Yeah but the statement was dominance over the entirety of the carrer when in actually it was only 5/6 year out of the entire career. Definitely not Dominant over the entire span
Comparing all those players outside of Scherzer and Strasburg with the 2001 D-Backs is a huge reach... Miller/Suzuki and Sanders/Eaton have nothing to do with each other.
I checked off "Other" What will Kate Upton be wearing???
your living in an illusion if you are comparing the philosophical constructs of the 2 teams. In the 2 games the yank sp went more than 5 IP they won. If the 4 they didn't they lost. I count the BP game b/c they chose not to start their terrible 4th SP.
Stop with German. He is not an ace or difference maker and would not have mattered. He would not even make the rotation on a championship team. You're not being impartial about the Yankees staff one bit and are buying the hype.
If the anointed genius acquires the players and the players fail- he has done a poor job finding the right players. There is a reason DJ succeeds and Encarcnacion doesn't. BUT ITS HIS JOB. its what he is supposedly paid to do. He has failed.
He’s correct if he meant Yankees debut. Definitely not clear on that, but my assumption.
The Angels will need to be $200M with Cole, arbitration and a couple bit players and they'll need to find 10-15 wins of production even after that because most of their roster was bad this year.
Suspect he means Yankees debut.
Made the all star team 3 times iirc and won a championship with the yankees as well. I think he's likely to go in as a yankee if he ends up there
Who really cares? Is that all you got out of the statement? Are you a teacher?
Time traveler confirmed.
I disagree, he was dominant in his peak. His ERA is pulled up by the earlier latter years of his career when he was more of a 3/4/5, but he was an ace at his peak.
122-57 with a 3.14 ERA, 219 Ks per year and a 140 ERA+ from 2006-2012
Greinke is good but not great, and Verlander in the last year of his contract. A's, like the Astros, are good offensively, but the pitching staff has some question marks. This is certainly the time for the Angels to pounce.
With 99% of that in the AL. That’s is an amazing career era for an AL pitcher.
halo,
Maybe you didn't if thats the case my bad. But im pretty sure you said that.
Man you are one serious d * * *! How about being educated in bring that American trash across the Canadian border and will see how you hold up!
Let Didi and Encarnacion and Brett Gardner go.
(Did not see them producing in the playoffs offensively)
Use money to extend Lindor
Go for it Yankees!
RHSP Mike Cevlinger and SS Francisco Lindor to the NYY
Sign Lindor to an 6 year extension
Andujar, Frazier Deivi Garcia, Montgomery, Florial and some other minor league prospects to the Indians.
to the Indians.
Pick up a few more clutch WS utility players/hitters...
Start printing WS tickets for 2020.
Am I the only person thinking the Nats on here? Shouldn't have beaten the Brewers, certainly shouldn't have seen off the Dodgers, shouldn't have swept the Cards. I know the phrase "playing loose" is overused but in spite of the Astros having an advantage almost everywhere positionally I think the Nats have a punchers chance provided by their pitching throughout. And, sweet Auntie Marjorie, they are playing loose.
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106-71 as an Indian, plus a Cy Young. 134-88 as a Yankee and only three All-Star appearances (none since 2012).
I hear what you're saying, but as I said, it is a close call. He was definitely the more consistently dominant pitcher in CLE, hands-down. But he played much longer in NY.
I could really see either and think this would make a good MLBTR article.
"in 2012...Stras and those Nats...would have faced off against – who else – Verlander’s Tigers. By that time, Verlander, 29, was 124-65 ..."
In other words Verlander was 29 in 2012. The writer was not stating Verlander's current age. Also Verlander is now 225-129.
Am I the only person thinking the Nats on here? Shouldn't have beaten the Brewers, certainly shouldn't have seen off the Dodgers, shouldn't have swept the Cards. I know the phrase "playing loose" is overused but in spite of the Astros having an advantage almost everywhere positionally I think the Nats have a punchers chance provided by their pitching throughout. And, sweet Auntie Marjorie, they are playing loose.
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Mr. Owl & the baseball. How many baseballs launched into orbit during the World Series? Let's find out!
On Ketel Marte’s flexibility...I hope the Dbacks trade for a CF to get Marte off the artificial turf. Whether or not the new artificial turf caused or contributed to the stress reaction in his back, I don’t think it wise to risk the health of your star player. So move him back to 2b.
The Rays played HOU tougher than the Yankees did. I find that troubling.
Verlander was a salary dump for DET. They didn’t even get top prospects back from HOU.
Actually......
To them ALL MLB franchises have an endless supply of money. They take in billions each year.....and other then payroll, hove no expenses.
Ross will become Maddon's bench coach, Zobrist his hitting coach.
LOL
Sherman wrote an article last June or July when he proposed trading Indians reject Frazier and a few flunkies for Trevor Bauer. At the end he mentioned that since the Indians needed an OF (they didn't), the Yankees could throw in a bench player (I don't recall the guy...Tauchman?) and in turn the Yankees could take Shane Bieber off their hands as a favor. At age 24, Bieber went on to become the team Ace, won 15 games with a 3.28 ERA, 259 K's in 186 innings, a WAR of 4.9.....and was MVP of the All-Star game.
I love Sherman's writing. But he has this NYC arrogance where everything Yankees is superior, and all the FO people in small and some medium markets are slow and should be grateful to make trades with the mighty Yankees.......for the record - both the Indians and Royals went to the playoff's more in the 2010's then the Yankees, and both made the WS, with the Royals winning one.
You are right, Bully, Boone has a pretty good regular season. But he was out managed in the playoffs. Boone did some dumb things like not playing his infield in at the right times. He also shouldn’t have started Green in Game 6 and his lineups were pretty awful throughout the series.
Verlander would need about 20 wins for the next for the next 4 years. Or 15 in his next 5. Both of those seem high unlikely considering he will be in his 40’s by then. But who knows
I don't know about you, but I can hear it. With the stadium mics being turned up for the postseason, I can hear the crack of the bat. Sounds totally different. Correa's HR to LF in Game 4 sounded like he hit a cement truck.
No "thawck" sound. Just a thud.
Had a regular season ball been used, that probably would've been 400+ft. Looking at the replay, he got all of it.
The way this game is today with pitch/ innings limits and analytics 250 wins is the new 300.
I think you mean your debut in watching baseball for the first time. CC has been around a lot longer than 11 years.
The Phillies should spend more time getting pitching than they should anything else. You can't ask a manager to get a team to the postseason without reliable pitching.
Yes, that is probably what they are doing. But a very small, very controlled (only 2 games with more than 3.2 innings pitched) 5 game month against September call-ups does not "sky-high potential" make, and playoffs are historically seen as heavily abnormality. This is especially true when it all came directly on the heals of a disastrous August which made regression a logical possibility. (In hindsight, however, that August of 6 games and 27ip with a 1.67 whip and 5.70 era does look fairly similar to the results of 2019)
But more to the point, I'm sure we can find an endless list of even garbage starters that had a fantastic very small stretch, and rarely ever would we call that sky-high potential. When results are so out of line with a players long shown norm like that, that is instead generally labeled a fluke.
Washington only is their because they are lucky Corbin is the worst pitcher in nationals rotation is overrated Sonny pitch a lot better 11-7 2.86 era, Milwaukee deserve more to be in the world series
Really?
You think 2-3 extra years of control makes Gleyber equal to Lindor. Gleyber has good games. Lindor literally influences every single game he plays. And when it's time to trade him, the Indians will get a Kings Ransom for him. The young man is very probably the best all-around SS in MLB.
His run in Milwaukee was impressive. They squeezed every drop out of him they could, surprised he did not do serious damage to his arm.
More $$$$ in New York. Cleveland groomed him to be the man he became and then moved on to a highly paid stacked lineup that helped getting those numbers easier.
You’re 100% right. Arte puts his best deal on the table for a short window, because he doesn’t want to have his offer shopped by the other party. Boras will wait until January if he feels it is necessary.
I have said this repeatedly: The Angels will make Cole a huge offer. It most likely won’t be the biggest one he gets. It is up to him if he wants to make tens of millions annually and live/work close to where he grew up, or take a few million more to play elsewhere. As always, it is up to the player. The agent just does what the player asks.
Some real mounting evidence that the MLB is using a more dead ball for this postseason. Didi to RF in game 4 and Martin Maldonado’s warning track shot in the same game looked like they would “normally” carry out of Yankee stadium. I’m sure there are more cases as well.
I couldn’t agree more! Same with the NFL. They need to unwind their panties about celebrations
Not convinced that Preller is the guy to take the Padres to the WS and win it.
Loaded farm and then he trades at least 2 very good young major league p[layers and prospects for a future question mark prospect?!
Now, Preller wants to hire a manager from guys he formerly worked with in the Rangers organization?!
Washington would be an OK choice, but he has never won the trophy as an experienced manager with a loaded Rangers roster.
The other guy is a lottery ticket with no major league managing experience like the guy he just fired.?
How about interviewing Girardi?! Schowalter?! Manuel?! Joe Espada?!
If Preller blows this hire then he could be the next one out the door...
Uhhhh your math is a little off bud
Red Sox DO NOT discriminate against the obese;
Even a FATSE can be a coach for them.!!
Ohhhhhh........
This is not computer baseball.
The Yankees problem is not trading for - or overpaying for - starting pitching.
The Yankees need to reevaluate how to work with their pitchers, as well as a new pitching coach.
THAT is the problem.
Look at how well Sonny Gray pitched in a bandbox ballpark in 2019.
How come the Yankees bring in guys like JA Happ constantly to start, and they fizzle within a year?
Wake up!
Something doesn’t add up here lol.
So basically you create a position that Cole has never taken and a situation that will likely not come up. .
Cole will pitch the 22nd. And then are the Astros going to pitch him on short rest twice? Otherwise, what's the point?
Cole has never had to pitch on short rest,
At the end of 2008, Sabathia pitched on short rest three times. Maybe they would have been better off having him on full rest twice and perhaps have him for two games in the NLDS.
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I'd bet he will land much more than $220mil. $260-$280mil/8 years.
Ummmm, Verlander is definitely not 29.
I remember his debut when I was 19 and now I will be turning 30 in a few months. Yeesh I feel old
2 games in Boston, 3 games in Houston, 2 games in Boston. Red Sox won games 2 through 5
Ahh suck on my hairy cheek
Yee mum
Mac - I disagree that we are a couple years away. If we get Cole, that means the Astros lost him. Things can change quickly and if we finally get serious about our pitching staff and getting a solid catcher, I think we're close. We have a good mix of vets and rookies who are really good. Upton is our weakest vet. Pujols got close to 200 RBIs over the last 2 seasons and his BA was better this year. Nothing this winter should come before our rotation is addressed in a meaningful way.
Marner#16: Where did I write in my off-season plans that the Angels would sign Rendon? You can't just make stuff up and then argue it. Haha
I hope for your sake that you say something intelligent one day. One last thing... please learn how to spell, you uneducated and illiterate troll.
Class act!
Greinke and Cole both have a pretty good record against DC the last few years, but DC has a pretty good record against the Astros in interleague play. The Nats haven't seen Verlander in awhile.
C Mart is here to stay... what about Jose Martinez? He can’t play defense... belongs in the AL. Surely he has some value?
Joe Buck only has a job because of his Dad.
When it comes to the NFL, Chris Collingsworth is the worst for me. He's so biased it isnt even funny.
Joe Buck is just a giant tool.
More years, more games, more wins, more K's, lower ERA,with Yankees, While he got his Cy Young with Cleveland I believe that he'll go in as Yankee
@Hitters with cohones who don’t just tee off on bad Baltimore pitching,
How does one find cohones on a scouting sheet? The problem is that we are all judging things after the fact. Both DJ and Torres missed RBI ooportunties that could've won the two games we were tied.
Here's my point. GMS GO AFTER PLAYERS THAT INDICATE THEY SHOULD DO WELL.
Both the Astros and Yanks saw their best hitters fail to hit in the post-season. DJ and Torres came up lame a couple of time too. A lot of these players played below their norm. Not the Gms fault.
I think that with a full up to speed Severino and German being availlable the Yanks were good enough to beat the Astros. They choked. Players have to their jobs and when they fail it shouldn't be on the GM. Paxton, Tanaka and Severino pitched relatively well. Tanaka had a a 2.45 vs Astros. Paxton had a 2.16 and Severino had a 4.15. I wonder what Severino could've done if he had another 10 starts headed into post-season or had German for a couple of starts. This series wasn't a blowout where the Astros proved they were in another atmosphere vs the Yanks.
Thank you for making Vallejo proud!
I think Verlander has a outside shot ( I think he ends up with 260-280), but would agree that with the way that the game is currently played 300 wins likely isn't going to happen....however there was a time that people thought that Early Wynn would be the last 300 game winner and there have been plenty that have followed him., though the gap was around 20 years.
As for the hall of fame, I think CC will get in though I also think that he's part of a block of very good pitchers who could go either way. LIke Kaat, Tommy John, Dennis Martinez, Pettitte, Colon. I also believe that he's better then a number that are already in the hall like Morris.
They didn't mention that the Astros and Nationals built a spring training complex together in West Palm Beach a few years ago.
Not particularly. I’m sure he had a solid chance if he laid off the booze.
Verlander 36 at 225
Collar bone 35 almost 36 205.
Well, each team has 2 dynamite aces. Corbin is good, but not that. Ditto Greinke at this stage of his career.
He was solid but as his era shows more of a 3/4. Had a couple great years with brewers and indians but mostly just a solid everyday pitchers who gives you 200+ innings a year. Dominant definitely not.
But you can’t take into consideration health issues when you look at HOF players
I was just telling a friend about CC's Milwaukee tenure as he was asking if I thought Gerrit Cole would pitch on short rest in the World Series due to his upcoming free agency and I said it takes a guy who only cares about winning and the last guy I could remember doing it was CC, who carried that Milwaukee team that year. He definitely was a guy you could respect in the clubhouse.
Lol, so he's willing to let his team not be as good because the Rays and Pirates will get $3M each? That's a really dumb justification to not make sure your team has everything it needs to win a world series title.
That’s right. Upton isn’t nearly as awful a player as the guy who wore his uniform in 2019.
The Astros' payroll with Cole this year is around 169m-ish and the tax line is 208m. They wouldn't come close to it if they kept him and paid him more money.
i personally dont mind Buck for baseball.
Now the NFL is a different story. Hes got no idea how to talk football.
CC's brief run in Milwaukee was particularly impressive.
You're crazy, Larry.
Much more intriguing question:
Who throws out the first pitch in Game #3 in DC?
DJT? HRC? Tulsi? Vladimer? Macedonian Data Farmers?
America wants to know......
You do know Houston is the 4th largest city and will pass Chicago soon.