These are good changes.
Jack needs to relearn how to hit and he did not do that in AAA last year.
Gorski deserves a chance,and it shows that the Pirates are not afraid to promote their own.
They will get more information on Burrowes to see if he is a ML pitcher.
What do they have to lose?
I still blame Andy Haines for completley messing him up. Suwinski is a three-true-outcomes guy, and was good at that. Why try and fix something that isn't broken and and make him a contact hitter? There's a difference in changing approach to hit for more contact, and changing your approach to be a contact hitter, and Haines did the latter. Clear that work still needs to be done.
As for Gorski, he's generally considered an above-average defender at all three outfield positions with decent speed. I'm not expecting much but hey, if he bats like .200 with a 75-80 wRC+, he'll be a massive improvement over Jack right now.
Not arguing that Suwinski is doing great or was an MVP candidate or anything, but he certaintly wasn't bad in 2022 or 2023. Can't say the same about Frazier. Since the Pirates traded him, he has been one of the worst hitters in baseball and is only batting .235/.300/.334 with an 82 wRC+. He ranks bottom five in wRC+, has the second worst wOBA, and the worst OPS among the 147 batters with at least 1500 plate appearances since.
Wasnt a bad trade. Getting any one for a rapidly declining Frazier was going to be a crapshoot. The problem is that the Bucs can’t develop hitters at all.
Great to see Mangum get a shot at 29. I was a little surprised he hadn't gotten a a chance before, but in college until 2019 at 23, bitten by the Covid year, and only made AAA at 26, at which point you're pretty much dismissed as being remotely viable in MLB. Not getting even one PA in the Marlins 2023 outfield (1.8 bWAR combined from their starters), though, was just wrong.
That he can handle CF without embarrassment should keep him in the Rays OF mix, though Kameron Misner is a ROY dark horse and once Mangum's bat settles down he may not hit enough for a corner..
---Correa with 4/133-ish left on his deal, and a .514 OPS in late April? What made Minnesota figure they needed to lock down an often injured SS at 33m+ a year until he's at least 33 when they'd already been lucky enough to get a nice bite out of the heart of his career?
The Cubs have no need for a #3 pitcher. They need a closer or a #1 pitcher. When Shaw starts hitting where does he play? Can't do the equation without all the variables. Happ could be replaced but not if Tucker goes. Hoyer has botched things to the point that you can't answer one question without raising 3 more. You tell me what he's doing first and maybe I could give you an answer. PCA and Hoerner should be hitting 1-2 and Happ should be 4 in a perfect world but all that movement in front of Tucker change him? It's working well for now. Hitting isn't a problem. Too early to make a trade like that anyway. Sorry if I threw more mud on the problem. But like I said the roster construction is confusing at best.
Hope Gorski can hit a couple of dingers so he can stay a while. Will strikeout a lot but probably not as much as Jack. Jack is another example of Cherington’s bad trades.
In fact, it’s very much about the TV money. The Rangers had a rich contract that got a big cut in 2024. Their payroll is sixth or seventh among the thirty clubs, depending on which site you check. They already have significant debt and don’t want to drown in a Red Sea like the Padres.
Avoiding luxury taxes is no doubt a factor. But if the Rangers had the certainty of big TV money for the foreseeable future, they’d be a lot more willing to take the hit. Instead they’ve got an unproven in-house media operation that may or may not pay off.
Pederson can’t avoid hitting better than he is now. There will be some improvement by the trade deadline. With a lot of teams desperate for offense in this offense-starved season and with Pederson’s strong pre-2025 track record against righties, they’ll find somebody to take at least a good chunk of the contract.
von, Stats can be misleading. The Phils did have a winning record against the Dodgers in 2024. However, when they played, the Dodgers had 15 players on the IL. And what about the 2024 playoffs? Who did the Phils have a winning record against? Certainly not the Mets. So, your narrative doesn't fit the reality of the situation.
A bunch of players off to similar or worse starts. Bad month, most players will have them. When it happens at the start of the season, some will panic.
True, but they were also 4-2 against the Dodgers last year. For some reason, they seem to do well against them. The real test will be how they are against the Rockies or the Pirates... teams they have to beat to be in the hunt.
4-20g, I knew it would be bad it this is beyond ridiculous. Sell the team, Monfort, you suck. At the very least get a good baseball person to replace McGregor.
He seems to be more undisciplined at the plate so far this year. I usually don't see him strike out this much, maybe trying to hit his way out of the slump. He's been relatively decent as a Cardinal, but not worth 18m/yr. Then again, salaries increasing so much, 18m may not be that much.
I can't tell if this comment was conveyed in an ironic, sarcastic, or "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" sorta style or whether it was meant to be taken at face value.
KA13 is good no doubt. Caissie has that raw lefty power that is so hard to find. The only reason to trade him is if they extend Tucker. ONKC on matter what team he makes the show with is gonna be really good.
Its Nick Deeds. He is the Bob Nightengale of MLBTR. Just read the headline and skip the article if you want all the facts or a legit take on a subject. You just won't get it from him.
Contreras has been good as a Cardinal. Consecutive 3 win seasons in 2023 and 2024. He's perhaps a bit overpaid now that he isn't catching but it's not a massive overpay. It's not an albatross contract at all.
Contreras is hitting .304 over the last 14 days. He is showing signs of warming up. I would have dropped him down in the batting order during his ice cold period.
Yeah i talk about players not on the Cardinals. But i am not a writer for this site. And I don't go out of my way to say weird things about the Cubs like this guy does about the Cardinals.
Contreras has broken out of his slump. This dude is just trying to turn nothing into something because Conteras is a former Cub and current Cardinal.
Completely agree, but I also have not seen them dominate teams of this caliber like this before. The Reds and Brewers are legitimate threats, but when you compare them to the Dodgers, Backs, and Padres - they are laughable. I think the biggest issue is the offense trending back to good (rather than the insane pace they have been playing at), and now we rely more on our bullpen/SP. Without new additions, this will most definitely become a problem and then we will be sitting on our asses at the ATB wondering what to do again because we were scared to pull the trigger with a good team.
Well I said he wasn't a very good catcher and he's not. I said he wasn't worth anywhere near that contract and he's not. He's also not a .200 hitter, He's better than that. Basically he is what I said he was terribly overpaid and now untradeable and I'm glad he's your problem now. Hate on me all you want. All I did was tell you the truth when you signed him.
Joel, you were whining about him on your last account. You are constantly talking about players that are not on the Cardinals. Where do you have room to talk?
Theoretically--but have you noticed how in recent years they've seemed a step behind the Brewers, with that team's speed and versatility, and a bit overwhelmed by the Reds, with that team's hitting and swagger? Let's see if they match up better against those two this season. I hope they will, and I agree with you that better pitching in both the rotation and bullpen would increase their chances.
Cora,
Now you are fine tuning and coming around to at least putting Snell into the “ace” category by limiting your criticism to his not going as many innings as other “aces” for you grading scale.
His innings are what they are and every other “ace” caliber pitchers stats are what they are.
At least he is at least the least “economical” ace now, but an “ace” nonetheless.
Diet too. Ya know, eating right is a thing too ... not just exercise. Santander got serious about taking care of his body. Earlier in his career he had trouble staying on the field. Not the case today. You go Tony Taters, you go!
A right handed pitcher has his glove on his left hand, so a pitch tailing glove side is going to the left as it goes to home plate and a pitch tailing to the arm side is going to the right.
Joe - agreed. Young players, that have real talent, are not often on the waiver wire. Teams have 7 years of controllability, 3 option years if under 5 years of service time..... and teams are signing players to long term contracts with less and less MLB experience.
the emergence of Misner, Mangum, Caminero, Aranda and Cabalerro have the Rays looking as stacked as any team in MLB. And they could add Eloy Jimenez to the mix at some point. They have the pitching too, they are looking like contenders.
* He already broke out of his slump and has an .851 OPS over his last 12 games.
1-2 others mentioned it, but it feels like someone started a column and felt compelled to follow through, even though the point of the article was now moot.
Because Azocar can play center. I'm not saying this is definitive and Azocar must be kept. I'm saying this isn't so straightforward and it warrants some thought as none of the solutions are comprehensively good.
Heaney was great with the Dodgers and had some really good stretches with the Rangers, he is only 34, he should get paid on his next deal but has to get through the season, I think if a team was willing to take some risk off his plate, they could extend him at a bargain. My proposal is a long shot but I think the Pirates should sign heaney and trade Skenes, I can only imagine what Skenes ask is.
Weird things happen in division games, I understand that, but the divisional play should theoretically be a walk in the park compared to the schedule they have played so far... especially if they tighten up pitching.
He's just hot right now and has actually cooled off considerably the last few games. I think his average is down to around 264. He may produce, but it wouldn't surprise me if this is as hot as he ever got this year.
They had a winning record against the top 4 playoff teams, including the Mets and Dodgers. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative. You cant just say things you feel when stats exist.
Question: "...Francis made an adjustment to improve his arm-side fastball command..." I know this is a stupid question but I have horrible visualization skills...when they refer to anything "glove-side" or "arm-side" they are referring to the pitcher missing, but in what position are they talking about? Because depending on where he is on the mound or in his windup, his "arm-side" and "glove-side" can be in vastly different positions??? I just find this characterization unhelpful but then again I'm obtuse.
I was appalled that simulations and experts called this train wreck of a team to be the favorite in the division. Turns out, they should hire me. On a separate note, how bout them Tigers?! Lol
Jays needed 2 more above average bats like I said in the offseason. This all defense approach is very hard to watch. Mall Santa and Donny loses at Baseball need to go to.
With two young catchers coming up, maybe St. Louis should have invested in a different player that offseason, or waited. But that offseason was pretty much Judge, Contreras, and a bunch of nothing else.
I agree but when you only have 4 starters and a 2nd teir lux tax team at best trying for a wild card a chance at lightening in a bottle is worth the cost.
Wells has never pitched much more than 100 innings in a season and gets hit hard, I agree he's a 4/5 type if he's in the rotation (more a swing/long relief) and tell people don't get fooled by his WHIP.
Bradish flashed top level stuff for about half a season and carried #2 level stuff for most of a season. But he hasn't stayed healthy long enough to rely on it. He comes back a 3.
Don't even mention free agent or trade possibilities who would require commitments, that's not what the Orioles do. They insist they can get by without it and not worry about ending up exactly in the situation they find themselves in.
I know not all pitchers pitch 200 innings anymore, but compare Snell's career average innings pitched with other so-called aces and tell me if that's economical?
I really expected optioned today
Disagree with this move unless McNeil looked horrendous at CF in the rehab
Goldy has better coaches and a much better manager, with baseball sense, than he had last season.
Does Baty become a solid Major Leaguer? Interested in polling the comment section here...
These are good changes.
Jack needs to relearn how to hit and he did not do that in AAA last year.
Gorski deserves a chance,and it shows that the Pirates are not afraid to promote their own.
They will get more information on Burrowes to see if he is a ML pitcher.
What do they have to lose?
Does Cruz have CF lockdown? He’s pretty terrible out there. Gorski will not do well in the majors.
I doubt the Reds can quiely pass (Austin) Wynns through waivers like they did (Randy) Wynne.
Mets were smart letting Rocker go.
Or the Brewers or the Reds
Chronic case of Suckitis
I still blame Andy Haines for completley messing him up. Suwinski is a three-true-outcomes guy, and was good at that. Why try and fix something that isn't broken and and make him a contact hitter? There's a difference in changing approach to hit for more contact, and changing your approach to be a contact hitter, and Haines did the latter. Clear that work still needs to be done.
As for Gorski, he's generally considered an above-average defender at all three outfield positions with decent speed. I'm not expecting much but hey, if he bats like .200 with a 75-80 wRC+, he'll be a massive improvement over Jack right now.
Not arguing that Suwinski is doing great or was an MVP candidate or anything, but he certaintly wasn't bad in 2022 or 2023. Can't say the same about Frazier. Since the Pirates traded him, he has been one of the worst hitters in baseball and is only batting .235/.300/.334 with an 82 wRC+. He ranks bottom five in wRC+, has the second worst wOBA, and the worst OPS among the 147 batters with at least 1500 plate appearances since.
Contreras will have above average numbers by the end of the year.
Unless Anthony Franco was there listening to Dombrowski, he still needs to credit the reporter from whom he learned it.
Mets did the right thing letting him go
(They didnt do right with replacement pick but thats besides the point)
Is this the MLB for Kids site?
Wasnt a bad trade. Getting any one for a rapidly declining Frazier was going to be a crapshoot. The problem is that the Bucs can’t develop hitters at all.
He'll do well if his .479 BABIP holds up. But 1 HR in 94 ABs might be a little weak for 1B.
Untradeable without the Cards eating a bunch of it.
Great to see Mangum get a shot at 29. I was a little surprised he hadn't gotten a a chance before, but in college until 2019 at 23, bitten by the Covid year, and only made AAA at 26, at which point you're pretty much dismissed as being remotely viable in MLB. Not getting even one PA in the Marlins 2023 outfield (1.8 bWAR combined from their starters), though, was just wrong.
That he can handle CF without embarrassment should keep him in the Rays OF mix, though Kameron Misner is a ROY dark horse and once Mangum's bat settles down he may not hit enough for a corner..
---Correa with 4/133-ish left on his deal, and a .514 OPS in late April? What made Minnesota figure they needed to lock down an often injured SS at 33m+ a year until he's at least 33 when they'd already been lucky enough to get a nice bite out of the heart of his career?
About time. He should have headed north out of spring training.
The Cubs have no need for a #3 pitcher. They need a closer or a #1 pitcher. When Shaw starts hitting where does he play? Can't do the equation without all the variables. Happ could be replaced but not if Tucker goes. Hoyer has botched things to the point that you can't answer one question without raising 3 more. You tell me what he's doing first and maybe I could give you an answer. PCA and Hoerner should be hitting 1-2 and Happ should be 4 in a perfect world but all that movement in front of Tucker change him? It's working well for now. Hitting isn't a problem. Too early to make a trade like that anyway. Sorry if I threw more mud on the problem. But like I said the roster construction is confusing at best.
Hope Gorski can hit a couple of dingers so he can stay a while. Will strikeout a lot but probably not as much as Jack. Jack is another example of Cherington’s bad trades.
Belli is much more interesting. He has stats that point both ways.
Wachusett Blueberry Ale is a favorite of mine.
In fact, it’s very much about the TV money. The Rangers had a rich contract that got a big cut in 2024. Their payroll is sixth or seventh among the thirty clubs, depending on which site you check. They already have significant debt and don’t want to drown in a Red Sea like the Padres.
Avoiding luxury taxes is no doubt a factor. But if the Rangers had the certainty of big TV money for the foreseeable future, they’d be a lot more willing to take the hit. Instead they’ve got an unproven in-house media operation that may or may not pay off.
Pederson can’t avoid hitting better than he is now. There will be some improvement by the trade deadline. With a lot of teams desperate for offense in this offense-starved season and with Pederson’s strong pre-2025 track record against righties, they’ll find somebody to take at least a good chunk of the contract.
We’re still waiting for that dynasty Cubs fans claimed.
Hes already been back the past week and a half.
Dawg…Come on fella. You literally said “Luka Baker can set his doodoo maker on this face”. It’s searchable.
von, Stats can be misleading. The Phils did have a winning record against the Dodgers in 2024. However, when they played, the Dodgers had 15 players on the IL. And what about the 2024 playoffs? Who did the Phils have a winning record against? Certainly not the Mets. So, your narrative doesn't fit the reality of the situation.
A bunch of players off to similar or worse starts. Bad month, most players will have them. When it happens at the start of the season, some will panic.
True, but they were also 4-2 against the Dodgers last year. For some reason, they seem to do well against them. The real test will be how they are against the Rockies or the Pirates... teams they have to beat to be in the hunt.
This exact same poll could be re-stated for the following players: Semien, Santander, Pedersen, Chisholm, Suarez, Walker, Diaz, Alvarez, etc etc
Hated to see Rizzo go, moreso hated to see Schwarber go (for nothing!).
4-20g, I knew it would be bad it this is beyond ridiculous. Sell the team, Monfort, you suck. At the very least get a good baseball person to replace McGregor.
Untradable because he wouldn't waive his clause.
He seems to be more undisciplined at the plate so far this year. I usually don't see him strike out this much, maybe trying to hit his way out of the slump. He's been relatively decent as a Cardinal, but not worth 18m/yr. Then again, salaries increasing so much, 18m may not be that much.
UncleMike, if you had to give up either Hoerner or Happ in a trade for a #3 pitcher, which of those two would you send out,? Just curious.
I can't tell if this comment was conveyed in an ironic, sarcastic, or "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" sorta style or whether it was meant to be taken at face value.
Watching Goldy play this year, you'd never guess he was on the decline.
KA13 is good no doubt. Caissie has that raw lefty power that is so hard to find. The only reason to trade him is if they extend Tucker. ONKC on matter what team he makes the show with is gonna be really good.
What part of "you were whining about him (Contreras) on your last account" went over your head?
Robertson allegedly asked for a two year deal or nothing. If a report that I read can be believed.
Wow. Huge move.
Its Nick Deeds. He is the Bob Nightengale of MLBTR. Just read the headline and skip the article if you want all the facts or a legit take on a subject. You just won't get it from him.
A cup of Green Mountain coffee
Contreras has been good as a Cardinal. Consecutive 3 win seasons in 2023 and 2024. He's perhaps a bit overpaid now that he isn't catching but it's not a massive overpay. It's not an albatross contract at all.
Contreras is hitting .304 over the last 14 days. He is showing signs of warming up. I would have dropped him down in the batting order during his ice cold period.
What?
Yeah i talk about players not on the Cardinals. But i am not a writer for this site. And I don't go out of my way to say weird things about the Cubs like this guy does about the Cardinals.
Contreras has broken out of his slump. This dude is just trying to turn nothing into something because Conteras is a former Cub and current Cardinal.
Completely agree, but I also have not seen them dominate teams of this caliber like this before. The Reds and Brewers are legitimate threats, but when you compare them to the Dodgers, Backs, and Padres - they are laughable. I think the biggest issue is the offense trending back to good (rather than the insane pace they have been playing at), and now we rely more on our bullpen/SP. Without new additions, this will most definitely become a problem and then we will be sitting on our asses at the ATB wondering what to do again because we were scared to pull the trigger with a good team.
It was a no Wynne situation.
Well I said he wasn't a very good catcher and he's not. I said he wasn't worth anywhere near that contract and he's not. He's also not a .200 hitter, He's better than that. Basically he is what I said he was terribly overpaid and now untradeable and I'm glad he's your problem now. Hate on me all you want. All I did was tell you the truth when you signed him.
Joel, you were whining about him on your last account. You are constantly talking about players that are not on the Cardinals. Where do you have room to talk?
I probably should add Guinness/Harp to the Sam Adam's as stereotypical Boston beers that don't count lol
A more interesting poll would be if Cody Bellinger can get back on track.
From where I'm at, the Sierras aren't budging.
Sam Adams
He pimped a BB versus ATL the other night. Bat flipped. A sign of needing a good thing to go his way.
at his age its too soon to say that, even as a league repeater and off to a slow start in Tampa. But by year's end he could be a long way down.
They can come back to the Astros.
Reportedly, they shoped Framber Valdez at the same time they did Kyle Tucker but didn't get offers they liked.
It won't be cheap, but the Astros WILL trade him.
As a cubs fan so glad they didn’t listen to the “cORe” fans. All but Rizzo been a complete failure
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Theoretically--but have you noticed how in recent years they've seemed a step behind the Brewers, with that team's speed and versatility, and a bit overwhelmed by the Reds, with that team's hitting and swagger? Let's see if they match up better against those two this season. I hope they will, and I agree with you that better pitching in both the rotation and bullpen would increase their chances.
Make sure to get your lobster roll Connecticut style with clarified butter.
Cora,
Now you are fine tuning and coming around to at least putting Snell into the “ace” category by limiting your criticism to his not going as many innings as other “aces” for you grading scale.
His innings are what they are and every other “ace” caliber pitchers stats are what they are.
At least he is at least the least “economical” ace now, but an “ace” nonetheless.
Diet too. Ya know, eating right is a thing too ... not just exercise. Santander got serious about taking care of his body. Earlier in his career he had trouble staying on the field. Not the case today. You go Tony Taters, you go!
Grass isn't always greener on the other side.
It's viewed from the pitcher facing home plate.
A right handed pitcher has his glove on his left hand, so a pitch tailing glove side is going to the left as it goes to home plate and a pitch tailing to the arm side is going to the right.
Angels just bring in more trash
It’s a Narragansett at the game.
It’s a Harpoon if you’re in Southie.
It’s a Trillium if cost is no concern.
New Gm and Pres first
Jays have a top 5 payroll, no depth, bottom 5 farm and bottom 10 offense.
I don’t like Schneider but none of that’s on him
Clase was overused last year. will cost them in September
Is that what Wade Boggs wild ride is?
Oh mercy......
Joe - agreed. Young players, that have real talent, are not often on the waiver wire. Teams have 7 years of controllability, 3 option years if under 5 years of service time..... and teams are signing players to long term contracts with less and less MLB experience.
the emergence of Misner, Mangum, Caminero, Aranda and Cabalerro have the Rays looking as stacked as any team in MLB. And they could add Eloy Jimenez to the mix at some point. They have the pitching too, they are looking like contenders.
"while Morel and Caballero have more experience in the outfield than the infield."
Should be the opposite... Morel and Caballero have been infielders primarily until this season.
Another tough injury for the Rays...it's shaping up to be a very long year for them.
You should have added a category called:
* He already broke out of his slump and has an .851 OPS over his last 12 games.
1-2 others mentioned it, but it feels like someone started a column and felt compelled to follow through, even though the point of the article was now moot.
Jed's Cubs are in first place and won 2 against the World Series champs this week.
Because Azocar can play center. I'm not saying this is definitive and Azocar must be kept. I'm saying this isn't so straightforward and it warrants some thought as none of the solutions are comprehensively good.
What would Tom Hanks say? "Wilson!"
Heaney was great with the Dodgers and had some really good stretches with the Rangers, he is only 34, he should get paid on his next deal but has to get through the season, I think if a team was willing to take some risk off his plate, they could extend him at a bargain. My proposal is a long shot but I think the Pirates should sign heaney and trade Skenes, I can only imagine what Skenes ask is.
Gotta like a good "sit on your face" reference though.
Oh dang!
*it just dawned on me they could be referring to the catcher and not the pitcher (missing glove-side/arm-side)**
Weird things happen in division games, I understand that, but the divisional play should theoretically be a walk in the park compared to the schedule they have played so far... especially if they tighten up pitching.
He's just hot right now and has actually cooled off considerably the last few games. I think his average is down to around 264. He may produce, but it wouldn't surprise me if this is as hot as he ever got this year.
much to the surprise of absolutely no one, Jed once again putting together a sloppy seconds bullpen is not working out.
They had a winning record against the top 4 playoff teams, including the Mets and Dodgers. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative. You cant just say things you feel when stats exist.
Question: "...Francis made an adjustment to improve his arm-side fastball command..." I know this is a stupid question but I have horrible visualization skills...when they refer to anything "glove-side" or "arm-side" they are referring to the pitcher missing, but in what position are they talking about? Because depending on where he is on the mound or in his windup, his "arm-side" and "glove-side" can be in vastly different positions??? I just find this characterization unhelpful but then again I'm obtuse.
I was appalled that simulations and experts called this train wreck of a team to be the favorite in the division. Turns out, they should hire me. On a separate note, how bout them Tigers?! Lol
Jays needed 2 more above average bats like I said in the offseason. This all defense approach is very hard to watch. Mall Santa and Donny loses at Baseball need to go to.
The way they drive in Boston, I suspect they're all drinking meth.
I didn't say any of that lol. Pretty sure it's the weirdo who impersonates me that said that. That would be my guess.
With two young catchers coming up, maybe St. Louis should have invested in a different player that offseason, or waited. But that offseason was pretty much Judge, Contreras, and a bunch of nothing else.
Now there's a name I haven't thought about for 20 years....
I agree but when you only have 4 starters and a 2nd teir lux tax team at best trying for a wild card a chance at lightening in a bottle is worth the cost.
Wells has never pitched much more than 100 innings in a season and gets hit hard, I agree he's a 4/5 type if he's in the rotation (more a swing/long relief) and tell people don't get fooled by his WHIP.
Bradish flashed top level stuff for about half a season and carried #2 level stuff for most of a season. But he hasn't stayed healthy long enough to rely on it. He comes back a 3.
Don't even mention free agent or trade possibilities who would require commitments, that's not what the Orioles do. They insist they can get by without it and not worry about ending up exactly in the situation they find themselves in.
Nananananananana nanananana, LATMAN!
They went 9-90 at the plate in Houston....LOL
I know not all pitchers pitch 200 innings anymore, but compare Snell's career average innings pitched with other so-called aces and tell me if that's economical?