HUGE home run in game 5 of the World Series, big home run game 6 of the World Series, big at bats and bigger base running in game 7 of the World Series. Hardly unable to perform in clutch situations. With all the negatively, he still leads he Cubs in hits, average and on base percentage. MVP year? Nope. Blip cherry picking stats...yep.
Actually "greatdingdong", rehab assignments don't always mean a roster move is coming. All it means is that they are hopefully on their way back. It can take one rehab start, or several, either way, doesn't always mean a roster move is coming. GoldenJabs, I agree with you!
Hey TheGreatTwigog, everyone knows and hates "That Guy". Don't be an idiot and try to tell the writers how to do their job. Otherwise great job being an azz, as usual.
I think he was subtracting the RBI that he would get from his own HRs. 55-23 = 32.
That being said, you also have to account for the fact that he's spent a significant portion of the year hitting behind a failed leadoff experiment in Schwarber. When your leadoff guy is hitting below the Mendoza line, you're probably going to miss out on a lot of RBI opportunities.
He made it farther than many ever made it. Had he played for Earl Weaver, Weaver would of surrounded him with sluggers and a good pitching staff. His defense was super. Best of luck in his coaching career.
This is a really good question. I don't know the answer offhand but will pose it to Matt and Tim. My guess would be that the system will bake it in, but perhaps will be slow to react.
The important thing to bear in mind is that the vast majority of cases are settled. Teams and agents basically have accepted the system and aren't all that interested in trying to push it by going to hearings and trying to make novel arguments. Perhaps players with particularly strong or weak cases that go beyond traditional numbers do have more or less leverage, though, based on the threat of their having a strong claim for more to a panel.
That's why the Betances case last year is so interesting and notable. He tried to bust out of the parameters that have defined reliever salaries. If anyone had a claim for ignoring the save, it was him; he had massive innings and K tallies, and had plenty of holds along with some saves. But he lost -- and ultimately probably gave up a significant amount of change to try that fight. (Not sure what the Yankees offered to settle at, but he filed at 5 mil and ended up with 3.)
That will come after the season when Matt runs his projections (and also breaks down the most interesting cases in additional detail). We could make guesstimates by projecting numbers through the end of the year and such, but ... his magic formulas will be much more accurate and aren't far off.
It's probably Bryant's fault rather than his teammates. He's hitting only .222/.342/.433 with men on base, and he has yet to record an extra - base hit in a high - leverage situation this year. That said, he was better at hitting with RISP last season, and I find it hard to believe that a player who has basically never struggled in his professional career is unable to perform in clutch situations. This feels more like a sample size fluke than some sort of damning aspect of his profile, as you seem to be implying
Will the arbiters consider that the league is in pace for an all - time high in home runs and adjust the salaries accordingly, or is that too complicated? Serious question if anyone has an idea.
Bryant driving in 32 of his fellow team mates is abysmal, and hopefully, embarrassing. For those that see the Rbi as a lucky happenstance, it's his team mates fault. For those that see it as a skill, he's putting up numbers like the pitcher is batting behind him. When almost half your Rbi's are from driving yourself in, it shows that you can't hit with runners on.
The comments here suggesting he isn't worth $18M for one year are just ignorant. Of course they can trade him, but they've put a high price tag on him, which I don't blame them for.
Doesn't anyone remember he didn't throw his first professional pitch until three years after he signed his contract being damaged goods from the get-go?
Had he been referred to as anything else nicer/ worse? U and the other PC libbies would have jumped in and complained regardless so stop feigning indignation at the term.
Some of us were warning that Upton was lazy LONG before he signed that 5y deal with Atlanta and had a propensity to not play defense when it suited him (chase fly balls gotten past him), or run out grounders and only Maddon's benching of him on occasion kept him kept him partially in check.. Yet the Braves went out and gave the dude 5y and like 75m.. The hit was all on them for missing the flashing warning lights all around BJ. and his attitude/laziness.
It's not thrown away. In the meantime, they still get to play a quality shortstop payed at no more than market rate to help make the club a little less embarrassing and a veteran presence to help mentor the young kids. Even rebuilding clubs still have to fill out the roster and maintain a decent payroll with at least a few veteran pieces.
Kris Bryant had to stay down for 12 days in 2015 to delay his free agency even tho he had never played in the Majors before. Renfroe entered the season with 12 days of service time so I believe he has to stay down until September 12th to delay his free agency as that is 24 days after August 19th.
I know the Super Two cutoff varies from year to year but if Renfroe just barely misses a full year of service time he would likely qualify.
You guys should put stuff like the Turner rehab assignment and Kershaw sim game on here. It's useful information and I don't feel like it's out of he scope of MLBTR (it's not like you have to put how they did in the game). It's not really worth a full article but a mention here would be nice, and aren't rehab assignments kind of roster moved in that they have to be sent to MLB? Otherwise great job with this, as usual
Ultimately, it's a good move for the team. Renfroe gets to work on his approach and the team gets to manipulate his service time a little bit. Hopefully it will help him out.
Miami doesn't really need a SS. Riddle has been a competent replacement for Hechavarria so far, and he has twice the stick that Hech does. Sure he had surgery late this summer, and he's fresh to the Bigs. I think he needs a chance to show what he can do over a full season before they go get someone new.
i agree his mechanics are wonky and traditionally speaking his transfer of kinetic force from his legs to his arm is super weird....personally i dont think ramos is that good...and familia in recent history has been choking like benitez style...
correlation also does not mean zero causation, so stop using cliched phrases...according to you, no one is to blame...but right, fans who pay arent owed accountability for the players and organizations they support to be responsible for taking care of themselves and putting the best product on the field...
they do that with every player and pitcher...its not just pitchers...they've taken steps with harvey and pitchers this year to limit inning yet the inevitable still happpened...
the training staff is an issue and there has to be some miscommunication going on in the clubhouse between the medical staff, management, and ownership..
dont censor.....i dont care what he claims...obviously he has no claim to the otherwise so then thats a moot point...
fact is mets have historically been eliminated from playoff contention for the longest time due to injuries...e.g. wright, piazza, harvey, the list is huge..
The only proof necessary is that they continued to let Matz pitch after it was already known he was not nearly 100 percent and that he was in pain...
How can you continue to let a pitcher, with his injury history, pitch when you're fully aware he is in obvious pain and discomfort?!?
To me, that is pretty clear proof of mismanagement and the whole situation just screams of ignorance and incompetence...
I mean, you can't help but wonder now, what other pitchers have they allowed to continue to pitch, when they were fully aware said pitcher was throwing with pain and discomfort?? And furthermore, what ill effects or damage were brought on by the Mets' staff allowing their pitchers to continue pitching injured...??
Like I said last night, Matz has been an injury risk since day one. No doubt talent, but unfortunately he's one of many "talented" pitchers who just could never stay healthy.
I think the Mets should at least think about moving him to a relief role. A lesser workload could help him and he's the kind of guy who has the stuff to be dominant there. Think about it, Familia, Ramos, Matz as a three headed monster with Blevins as the middle reliever- just have the starter go 5 or 6 and you'd be golden.
He had 12 days of service time last season and since he was optioned to the minors on August 19th he has 16 days of service time he will miss while in the minors. If he had stayed up 4 more days and assuming he plays in the majors all of next season, he would have been eligible for arbitration after the 2019 season.
There are an additional 26 days of major league service time after the end of the minor league season that he will miss if he is not called back up.
Renfroe staying down the rest of the year will cost him 42 days of service time. He had 12. He is down 30. That puts his free agency back a year and it puts his arbitration eligibility back a year unless he qualifies for super two. He won't have enough service time to be in top 22% of players with between 2 and 3 years of service time. He won't qualify for super two status for that reason.
The Mets trainers, medical staff, and their coaches apparently hate the Mets as well...
If he was suffering through pain earlier, then why wasn't this addressed, especially with his history of arm troubles?? It makes absolutely no sense, and it really almost seems like the Mets had/have zero interest in Matz long-term best interest.
I am not a doctor, but I have coached, played, and/or umpired the game for over 20 years, and EVERYONE knows when a pitcher shows even the slightest signs of discomfort, elbow pain, any numbness, shoulder pain, etc. you shut him down from throwing, and you get him thoroughly checked out immediately!!
Yet, the Mets let Matz just keep throwing??
To me, it just calls into question do they even care about Matz or his health, and how many other pitchers have they just kept trotting out there, when he was clearly not 100 percent???
I really hope I am wrong, and I just don't have all the facts, or I am misinterpreting something here...but if not, that is just really pathetic and everyone involved should just be fired immediately...
And before anyone goes there, this has nothing to do with me being a Braves fan..Personally, I love the Mets young stable of pitchers, I just really hope they aren't being ruined by incompetence!!
Cozart has been worth 4 WAR this year and he hasn't played a whole year. He's a good regression candidate but he had been showing improved offense since he came back from his injury last year. If the alternative is getting nothing I don't see why a QO is that bad for the reds. You guys paid $13 mil to get rid of Brandon Phillips this year. If cozart can be a solid offense player again maybe the trade outlook next season is a little better. Either way he's a much better SS than anything you have to play with next year. I don't think it's crazy to extend him a QO
The only way the Nats get by the LA Dodgers is if the plane goes down. But as a Nats fan I would be happy to see the organization make the next step in the playoffs. We are a young organization so it's one step at a time. Then again I'd be very happy to Bryce in the WS.
Definitely cannot replace a guy like Miller, but they could find a veteran lefty, that has passed through waivers, that might be able to help though...
I just cannot imagine there really being much available at this point in August...Then again, I could easily be wrong, you just never know really...
Interesting proposal...just thinking about Trout and Stanton in the same line-up...
I'm curious, would anyone bat them back-to-back?? I really don't think I would, personally.
I'd probably have a fairly quick, line-drive, contact guy batting 9th, and then your typical lead-off, quick, high OBP hitter batting 1st. Then, I would insert Trout batting second in the line-up, then I'd have my 3rd best power/contact combination hitter batting in the 3 spot of the line-up, and then I'd bat Stanton in the 4 spot...
The main reason, I would do this is, because I think it would greatly assist that 3-hole hitter. Trout will hit and get slightly pitched around regardless, so that really doesn't matter, BUT that 3-hole hitter would tend to see much better pitches with Stanton hitting behind him. I tend to think it would allow the #3 hitter the chance to really excel, but then again, this is all hypothetical and wouldn't ever happen...so it doesn't really matter...lol
Correlation is not causation. The sample pool is too small to reach a conclusion based on what amounts to anecdotal evidence. We could just as easily blame these guys' little league and high school coaches. We don't know and without actual evidence of mishandling of specific cases as evaluated by experts, it is wrong to blame the organization. We just don't know, and we seem to be years away from knowing how flawlessly to keep pitchers healthy and address injuries.
"Even if it turns out that Miller’s situation is serious, the Indians would have no realistic hope of finding a similarly valuable arm on the August trade market. With Boone Logan possibly out the rest of the way, though, any questions surrounding Miller could leave the club with added impetus to find another southpaw reliever."
1) For what he has brought Cleveland, do you really think there's a similarly valuable arm out there like Miller on the market or not?
2) Logan is on the 60-day DL, he's done!
Yeah, I liked the position player comparisons much more than the pitching prospects comparisons...
That blog typically does excellent work, but I thought some of the pitching comparisons for the Braves prospects were a little lazy..For example, there was more than one AJ Burnett comparison, and Touki was compared to Pedro Martinez, even though the author stated he thought Touki's future was in the bullpen...So yeah, Touki's comparison obviously made ZERO sense whatsoever..lol...
Interesting though that the author decided to go with Lamb for Riley...Right now, I'm not sure exactly who I'd compare Riley with, I'd honestly probably go with Mike Moustakas..
RunDMC, or anyone else that's familiar with the Braves farm and their prospects, for that matter, do you or you guys have any comparisons, you would like to share?? It can be either for the pitchers or hitters...
(FYI, the pitching comparisons' article I'm referencing, comes from the same blog. If you continue to scroll down through the player comparisons, you should see a link that highlights the pitching comps..)
Andre Knott said that Santana's back has been bothering him for a while. Hope they rest him for a bit. At least Jay Bruce can help at 1B, like he did tonight.
Saw him in Norfolk, always talking to the manager, the coach, the younger players.....never saw him just sitting there looking bored, the way a lot of veterans at AAA do.....seems to be into this "coaching thing".....sounds like he'll do well.......
So they should sign a guy who is terrible just for the sake of signing an African American player? The virtue signaling is getting out of hand these days.
Excellent defender through the years. I wish him the best of luck and the Rice baseball team should consider themselves lucky to have such an addition to their staff.
If ces didn't come to ny that year, they were done that by August 1. Ces was MVP quality in two months playing Time. Anyone to think he wasn't a main piece of them getting to where they were is lost. Ces was the reason they got to the playoffs. Murphy was only good cuz ces was in the lineup (Harper now). Did he turn things around for himself, yes, but don't even think Murphy was the reason they made the playoffs. Yes he did historic stats in the first two rounds of the playoffs, but since we are being overly ignorant I will join the club and say it could be because of Murphy the Mets lost the World Series. Goes both ways. But ces is the main reason they got to the playoffs.
He should sign with the Padres. Why not? They're already paying him. And this could be the San Diego's first season ever without an African American player, so yeah, why not? Jabari Blash is from the US Virgin Islands.
This is my fav part of MLBTR, Great job!
HUGE home run in game 5 of the World Series, big home run game 6 of the World Series, big at bats and bigger base running in game 7 of the World Series. Hardly unable to perform in clutch situations. With all the negatively, he still leads he Cubs in hits, average and on base percentage. MVP year? Nope. Blip cherry picking stats...yep.
Actually "greatdingdong", rehab assignments don't always mean a roster move is coming. All it means is that they are hopefully on their way back. It can take one rehab start, or several, either way, doesn't always mean a roster move is coming. GoldenJabs, I agree with you!
Hey TheGreatTwigog, everyone knows and hates "That Guy". Don't be an idiot and try to tell the writers how to do their job. Otherwise great job being an azz, as usual.
I think he was subtracting the RBI that he would get from his own HRs. 55-23 = 32.
That being said, you also have to account for the fact that he's spent a significant portion of the year hitting behind a failed leadoff experiment in Schwarber. When your leadoff guy is hitting below the Mendoza line, you're probably going to miss out on a lot of RBI opportunities.
Jeff, he's talking about RBI not generated by himself so 55-23 homers = 32
Jeff? He's talking about RBI not generated by himself so 55-23 homers = 32
He made it farther than many ever made it. Had he played for Earl Weaver, Weaver would of surrounded him with sluggers and a good pitching staff. His defense was super. Best of luck in his coaching career.
This is a really good question. I don't know the answer offhand but will pose it to Matt and Tim. My guess would be that the system will bake it in, but perhaps will be slow to react.
The important thing to bear in mind is that the vast majority of cases are settled. Teams and agents basically have accepted the system and aren't all that interested in trying to push it by going to hearings and trying to make novel arguments. Perhaps players with particularly strong or weak cases that go beyond traditional numbers do have more or less leverage, though, based on the threat of their having a strong claim for more to a panel.
That's why the Betances case last year is so interesting and notable. He tried to bust out of the parameters that have defined reliever salaries. If anyone had a claim for ignoring the save, it was him; he had massive innings and K tallies, and had plenty of holds along with some saves. But he lost -- and ultimately probably gave up a significant amount of change to try that fight. (Not sure what the Yankees offered to settle at, but he filed at 5 mil and ended up with 3.)
It's Pillar that has driven in 32, not Bryant, fwiw.
That will come after the season when Matt runs his projections (and also breaks down the most interesting cases in additional detail). We could make guesstimates by projecting numbers through the end of the year and such, but ... his magic formulas will be much more accurate and aren't far off.
Ditto.... other Braves fan...
It's probably Bryant's fault rather than his teammates. He's hitting only .222/.342/.433 with men on base, and he has yet to record an extra - base hit in a high - leverage situation this year. That said, he was better at hitting with RISP last season, and I find it hard to believe that a player who has basically never struggled in his professional career is unable to perform in clutch situations. This feels more like a sample size fluke than some sort of damning aspect of his profile, as you seem to be implying
Will the arbiters consider that the league is in pace for an all - time high in home runs and adjust the salaries accordingly, or is that too complicated? Serious question if anyone has an idea.
Bryant driving in 32 of his fellow team mates is abysmal, and hopefully, embarrassing. For those that see the Rbi as a lucky happenstance, it's his team mates fault. For those that see it as a skill, he's putting up numbers like the pitcher is batting behind him. When almost half your Rbi's are from driving yourself in, it shows that you can't hit with runners on.
You have to go.
You're kind of terrible.
1. "We don’t know and without actual evidence..." != " no one is to blame"
2. "fans who pay arent owed accountability..."
They are not. I think you know the answer to this one.
3. "I'm sure if you just eat enough oranges, you'll turn into one. Proof? I JUST SAID 'I'M SURE' WHAT PROOF DOES YOU WANT?" - sagbagels
4. Is there an ignore feature here?
I just don't see the White Sox making that kind of turn around.
Because Detroit needs him for their playoff run?
How about a change of scenery swap of two bad contracts in the off-season:
Tomas to the Red Sox for Castillo.
You know what's sick? That the QO is $18 million, yet Mike Schmidt earned just over $17 million for his entire career!
The comments here suggesting he isn't worth $18M for one year are just ignorant. Of course they can trade him, but they've put a high price tag on him, which I don't blame them for.
Doesn't anyone remember he didn't throw his first professional pitch until three years after he signed his contract being damaged goods from the get-go?
Good luck
I don't give Franco a raise of 5 dollars ! Horrible plate discipline, doesnt take well to coaching, not great in the field this year. I trade him ASAP
Thanks Nostradamus, do you have any other bold predictions on who else will get hurt?
Had he been referred to as anything else nicer/ worse? U and the other PC libbies would have jumped in and complained regardless so stop feigning indignation at the term.
Some of us were warning that Upton was lazy LONG before he signed that 5y deal with Atlanta and had a propensity to not play defense when it suited him (chase fly balls gotten past him), or run out grounders and only Maddon's benching of him on occasion kept him kept him partially in check.. Yet the Braves went out and gave the dude 5y and like 75m.. The hit was all on them for missing the flashing warning lights all around BJ. and his attitude/laziness.
It's not thrown away. In the meantime, they still get to play a quality shortstop payed at no more than market rate to help make the club a little less embarrassing and a veteran presence to help mentor the young kids. Even rebuilding clubs still have to fill out the roster and maintain a decent payroll with at least a few veteran pieces.
He'd be a good dh for a good hitting team
Kris Bryant had to stay down for 12 days in 2015 to delay his free agency even tho he had never played in the Majors before. Renfroe entered the season with 12 days of service time so I believe he has to stay down until September 12th to delay his free agency as that is 24 days after August 19th.
I know the Super Two cutoff varies from year to year but if Renfroe just barely misses a full year of service time he would likely qualify.
Classy dude ! Smooth, stopped everything, thanks 4 the D clinic, good luck PJ !
That is priceless !!!!
Seriously funny. My night is complete !
Lmao
I was really hoping for previous years comps and projected salaries for the upcoming year
Nice one.
You guys should put stuff like the Turner rehab assignment and Kershaw sim game on here. It's useful information and I don't feel like it's out of he scope of MLBTR (it's not like you have to put how they did in the game). It's not really worth a full article but a mention here would be nice, and aren't rehab assignments kind of roster moved in that they have to be sent to MLB? Otherwise great job with this, as usual
No chance in hell.
Ultimately, it's a good move for the team. Renfroe gets to work on his approach and the team gets to manipulate his service time a little bit. Hopefully it will help him out.
The kind of year when the Giants aren't good so you don't pay attention? Sorry, but you walked into that one.
Yea her rep took some hits...
Prediction......Sox/Cardinals.....WS
Could you clarify your comment? I'm not sure what you mean.
DITTO.....Jays Fan
you aren't going to get a good prospect for him without eating a ton of $ so it's probably best he just opts out and they move on
As stated in a previous post some time ago, post season yes, WS no for the Indians !
What good are five tools if the carpenter never shows up for work?
Cozart's going to want more than a 2 year deal.
3-4 years for sure. He's 31 yrs old. How many more "contracts" do you think an average SS is going to get?
Miami doesn't really need a SS. Riddle has been a competent replacement for Hechavarria so far, and he has twice the stick that Hech does. Sure he had surgery late this summer, and he's fresh to the Bigs. I think he needs a chance to show what he can do over a full season before they go get someone new.
The Kid Can Hit The Ball.
lol dude, you guys are like obsessed with me...maybe you really should ignore me since you cant help yourselves from writing about me
i agree his mechanics are wonky and traditionally speaking his transfer of kinetic force from his legs to his arm is super weird....personally i dont think ramos is that good...and familia in recent history has been choking like benitez style...
i think you meant to say no ces, no playoffs because no muph, no WS
but wait murphy now mvp contention for the last 2 years since that post season...and ces....has been on the DL for how long?
correlation also does not mean zero causation, so stop using cliched phrases...according to you, no one is to blame...but right, fans who pay arent owed accountability for the players and organizations they support to be responsible for taking care of themselves and putting the best product on the field...
they do that with every player and pitcher...its not just pitchers...they've taken steps with harvey and pitchers this year to limit inning yet the inevitable still happpened...
the training staff is an issue and there has to be some miscommunication going on in the clubhouse between the medical staff, management, and ownership..
Ditto - Padres Fan
dont censor.....i dont care what he claims...obviously he has no claim to the otherwise so then thats a moot point...
fact is mets have historically been eliminated from playoff contention for the longest time due to injuries...e.g. wright, piazza, harvey, the list is huge..
its related to its cousin, the scallop
The only proof necessary is that they continued to let Matz pitch after it was already known he was not nearly 100 percent and that he was in pain...
How can you continue to let a pitcher, with his injury history, pitch when you're fully aware he is in obvious pain and discomfort?!?
To me, that is pretty clear proof of mismanagement and the whole situation just screams of ignorance and incompetence...
I mean, you can't help but wonder now, what other pitchers have they allowed to continue to pitch, when they were fully aware said pitcher was throwing with pain and discomfort?? And furthermore, what ill effects or damage were brought on by the Mets' staff allowing their pitchers to continue pitching injured...??
Like I said last night, Matz has been an injury risk since day one. No doubt talent, but unfortunately he's one of many "talented" pitchers who just could never stay healthy.
I think the Mets should at least think about moving him to a relief role. A lesser workload could help him and he's the kind of guy who has the stuff to be dominant there. Think about it, Familia, Ramos, Matz as a three headed monster with Blevins as the middle reliever- just have the starter go 5 or 6 and you'd be golden.
He had 12 days of service time last season and since he was optioned to the minors on August 19th he has 16 days of service time he will miss while in the minors. If he had stayed up 4 more days and assuming he plays in the majors all of next season, he would have been eligible for arbitration after the 2019 season.
There are an additional 26 days of major league service time after the end of the minor league season that he will miss if he is not called back up.
Renfroe staying down the rest of the year will cost him 42 days of service time. He had 12. He is down 30. That puts his free agency back a year and it puts his arbitration eligibility back a year unless he qualifies for super two. He won't have enough service time to be in top 22% of players with between 2 and 3 years of service time. He won't qualify for super two status for that reason.
Apparently!
The Mets trainers, medical staff, and their coaches apparently hate the Mets as well...
If he was suffering through pain earlier, then why wasn't this addressed, especially with his history of arm troubles?? It makes absolutely no sense, and it really almost seems like the Mets had/have zero interest in Matz long-term best interest.
I am not a doctor, but I have coached, played, and/or umpired the game for over 20 years, and EVERYONE knows when a pitcher shows even the slightest signs of discomfort, elbow pain, any numbness, shoulder pain, etc. you shut him down from throwing, and you get him thoroughly checked out immediately!!
Yet, the Mets let Matz just keep throwing??
To me, it just calls into question do they even care about Matz or his health, and how many other pitchers have they just kept trotting out there, when he was clearly not 100 percent???
I really hope I am wrong, and I just don't have all the facts, or I am misinterpreting something here...but if not, that is just really pathetic and everyone involved should just be fired immediately...
And before anyone goes there, this has nothing to do with me being a Braves fan..Personally, I love the Mets young stable of pitchers, I just really hope they aren't being ruined by incompetence!!
Best wishes Matz on a speedy recovery!!
Cozart has been worth 4 WAR this year and he hasn't played a whole year. He's a good regression candidate but he had been showing improved offense since he came back from his injury last year. If the alternative is getting nothing I don't see why a QO is that bad for the reds. You guys paid $13 mil to get rid of Brandon Phillips this year. If cozart can be a solid offense player again maybe the trade outlook next season is a little better. Either way he's a much better SS than anything you have to play with next year. I don't think it's crazy to extend him a QO
The only way the Nats get by the LA Dodgers is if the plane goes down. But as a Nats fan I would be happy to see the organization make the next step in the playoffs. We are a young organization so it's one step at a time. Then again I'd be very happy to Bryce in the WS.
Definitely cannot replace a guy like Miller, but they could find a veteran lefty, that has passed through waivers, that might be able to help though...
I just cannot imagine there really being much available at this point in August...Then again, I could easily be wrong, you just never know really...
And Dave Matthews is from South Africa, so he would then be considered African American right? 😉
Interesting proposal...just thinking about Trout and Stanton in the same line-up...
I'm curious, would anyone bat them back-to-back?? I really don't think I would, personally.
I'd probably have a fairly quick, line-drive, contact guy batting 9th, and then your typical lead-off, quick, high OBP hitter batting 1st. Then, I would insert Trout batting second in the line-up, then I'd have my 3rd best power/contact combination hitter batting in the 3 spot of the line-up, and then I'd bat Stanton in the 4 spot...
The main reason, I would do this is, because I think it would greatly assist that 3-hole hitter. Trout will hit and get slightly pitched around regardless, so that really doesn't matter, BUT that 3-hole hitter would tend to see much better pitches with Stanton hitting behind him. I tend to think it would allow the #3 hitter the chance to really excel, but then again, this is all hypothetical and wouldn't ever happen...so it doesn't really matter...lol
Anyways, just a thought...
Correlation is not causation. The sample pool is too small to reach a conclusion based on what amounts to anecdotal evidence. We could just as easily blame these guys' little league and high school coaches. We don't know and without actual evidence of mishandling of specific cases as evaluated by experts, it is wrong to blame the organization. We just don't know, and we seem to be years away from knowing how flawlessly to keep pitchers healthy and address injuries.
"Even if it turns out that Miller’s situation is serious, the Indians would have no realistic hope of finding a similarly valuable arm on the August trade market. With Boone Logan possibly out the rest of the way, though, any questions surrounding Miller could leave the club with added impetus to find another southpaw reliever."
1) For what he has brought Cleveland, do you really think there's a similarly valuable arm out there like Miller on the market or not?
2) Logan is on the 60-day DL, he's done!
Great advice.
Great post, something is definitely off with sagbagels. Between the unnecessary insults and "they they", sad to see it on this site.
Yeah, I liked the position player comparisons much more than the pitching prospects comparisons...
That blog typically does excellent work, but I thought some of the pitching comparisons for the Braves prospects were a little lazy..For example, there was more than one AJ Burnett comparison, and Touki was compared to Pedro Martinez, even though the author stated he thought Touki's future was in the bullpen...So yeah, Touki's comparison obviously made ZERO sense whatsoever..lol...
Interesting though that the author decided to go with Lamb for Riley...Right now, I'm not sure exactly who I'd compare Riley with, I'd honestly probably go with Mike Moustakas..
RunDMC, or anyone else that's familiar with the Braves farm and their prospects, for that matter, do you or you guys have any comparisons, you would like to share?? It can be either for the pitchers or hitters...
(FYI, the pitching comparisons' article I'm referencing, comes from the same blog. If you continue to scroll down through the player comparisons, you should see a link that highlights the pitching comps..)
What's a "callup"?
Agree. And rest Miller as well.
I didn't even know he signed with the giants
Thank you for the laugh...lol...Good stuff bud.
A college so nice they named it rice!
Andre Knott said that Santana's back has been bothering him for a while. Hope they rest him for a bit. At least Jay Bruce can help at 1B, like he did tonight.
I forgot he was even in the giants system... It's been that kind of year as a giants fan I guess.
this is false. no cespedes, no WS
Fair, but he was replacement - level last season, so any drop - off makes him almost entirely useless
LOL
Upton is from Norfolk Virginia
It says alot when the Braves traded Kimbrel for nothing in a rebuild just to get rid of upton.
Ditto - Jays Fan
Saw him in Norfolk, always talking to the manager, the coach, the younger players.....never saw him just sitting there looking bored, the way a lot of veterans at AAA do.....seems to be into this "coaching thing".....sounds like he'll do well.......
That's weird, I could have sworn Melvin Upton was from America, not Africa.
Results speak for themselves. There is a problem with the Mets approach to pitchers.
The guy is poison......let him move on......
Nola is the real deal and Hoskins appears to be as well. Galvis and Hernandez more than likely will get dealt to let Crawford and Kingery develop.
The phillies may actually get to pick first in a draft that isn't terrible the time around.
Only makes any sense if they plan to trade Russell for SP help. No reason to spend $35M on a reserve infielder
That and the Padres are already paying him. Sign him on October 1, and have him pinch run on the last day of the season.
So they should sign a guy who is terrible just for the sake of signing an African American player? The virtue signaling is getting out of hand these days.
I don't think Carson Fulmer ever fell into the overhyped category of prospects with the possible exception of yours truly. lol
Lucas Giolito may be a better example of a prospect who may ultimately turn out to be overhyped.
Get back to me around 2019 or 2020 before patting yourself on the back with either prediction.
Excellent defender through the years. I wish him the best of luck and the Rice baseball team should consider themselves lucky to have such an addition to their staff.
If ces didn't come to ny that year, they were done that by August 1. Ces was MVP quality in two months playing Time. Anyone to think he wasn't a main piece of them getting to where they were is lost. Ces was the reason they got to the playoffs. Murphy was only good cuz ces was in the lineup (Harper now). Did he turn things around for himself, yes, but don't even think Murphy was the reason they made the playoffs. Yes he did historic stats in the first two rounds of the playoffs, but since we are being overly ignorant I will join the club and say it could be because of Murphy the Mets lost the World Series. Goes both ways. But ces is the main reason they got to the playoffs.
He should sign with the Padres. Why not? They're already paying him. And this could be the San Diego's first season ever without an African American player, so yeah, why not? Jabari Blash is from the US Virgin Islands.
Ditto, ditto, ditto- Phillies fan, he didn't play for the phils i just know he sucks
And Phillies fans and talk radio types were angry that the Phils didn't make a play for him. Just dumb luck they missed out on that train wreck.
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