The Rangers decided to void Khalil Greene's contract, reports MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan. Greene signed for $750K in January but was not able to report to camp due to social anxiety disorder. Sullivan tweeted on Monday that club officials say there is a 100% probability Greene's replacement will come internally.
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I’m sure that won’t affect them too much. They could deal with that internally for sure.
Agreed. Marcus Lemon is actually a really good defensive infielder. He did a good job in the Arizona Fall League in 2009. If not him, Joaqin Arias is still on the Rangers.
Didnt Arias just have shoulder surgery? so i dont think it will be him right away
Right. I’m just saying that he is there.
lol okay gotcha. i would like him to be there everyday guy when he is back and agian guys he was a part of the a-rod trade lol
yeah. He’s still fairly young as well. It seems like the A-Rod trade was so long ago but it wasn’t.
Plus, the Rangers could always make a trade as well. For example, I don’t think it would take a lot to lure Augie Ojeda to the lone star state.
Also, looking back at the out of options page. If Eric Patterson is DFA’d, they could always claim him. Same with Joe Inglett. They could re-claim him.
i know what you mean it seems as a-rod has been been in pin stripes for a while but that trade wasnt long ago and i think your right with ojeda i think he has fell out favor with the team
That’s unfortunate. It sounds like this disorder is going to ultimately cost him his career.
It can be gotten over, it just takes a long time and the medications make it near impossible to play.
i know its not khalil’s fault, but waiting til inglett slips away through waivers and the market being bare, this is quite a blow.
i would guess joaquin arias goes from his spot on the 40 being in jeoprady to the glove wizard back up MI in the style of vizquel and …greene…
Zach Greinke Anyone? That worked out pretty well
yeah, but Greene is a medicore shortstop, and Grienke is a future hall of famer.
Best of luck to Khalil. I’ve suffered from depression for a good portion of my life — disorders like that aren’t easy regardless of what you do or how much you get paid. Hopefully he gets the help he needs so he can enjoy his life.
poor kid.. hope feels better and get back to baseball soon.
Joey Votto had alot of depression problems last year alot because of him dad’s death and Zack Greinke had alot of depression and anxiety issues that all most made him retire. So hopefully them two can reach out to him or he reach out to them and over come these issues good luck greene
Best of luck to Khalil. Many of you people may not realize that this is usually a chemical imbalance in the brain. It is NOT something he can control. I’m guessing the people saying to ‘man up’ follow along with Tom Cruise and the church of Scientology that psychiatrists(people that have gone through medical school and not some wacked out religion someone just made up) are all quacks.
Seriously. If you don’t understand this, do some research, because if you’ve ever been around someone who has a serious depression/anxiety problem you’ll completely get why Khalil just can’t play right now.
i’m sure we’ll all be this generous the next time JD Drew sets out with a phantom leg or back injury and won’t play through the pain.
There’s a severe difference between not being able to suck it up and play through a little physical pain, ala Drew or especially Carl Pussvano.
Having your life ruined by the gripping disorder of anxiety limits you in all facets of your day-to-day, least of all trying to perform in front of thousands of people.
JD Drew isn’t so bad, but I have no sympathy whatever for somebody like Pavano who stole $40M to sit on the DL for the better part of 4 years.
Ow.. my emotions.
Some of you are just flat out terrible people. This kind of thing can really effect one’s life, you can’t just decide not to be depressed.
It’s a really sad story, actually.
wow his career has been a epic fail pretty much up and till this point.
He has “sad”. Give me a break.
Social Anxiety and Depression are completely different. Do some research.
Who said that they weren’t? Certainly not me. Do some research.
You’re original statement is wrong. Social Anxiety is not “sad”.
*your
Social anxiety disorder = s a d = sad = I’m not at all for him.
Why are so many posts removed? It makes the discussion exceedingly difficult to follow. Just let the people speak.
Zack Greinke has social anxiety disorder. He up and left baseball a few years ago because of it. He takes meds for it, and has been able to play and win the Cy. Why would the meds prevent Khalil from being able to perform at a high level? Do the meds affect position players differently? Seems a little odd.
i said the same thing(ish) the other day…. 74 comments later it turned out seemingly all of the internet thinks i’m a terrible person.
750k is nothing…Tigers are paying Willis upwards of 10mm a year to talk about his feelings with Dr. Katz
I got nailed with the same thing over at yankees.lohudblogs.com. I’m exiled from that place now because I think Greene should have honored his contract.
The internet truly knows no bounds of ignorance.
If you’ve never suffered through depression or anxiety it’s best to keep your mouth shut. It’s nothing something you can always just “man up” and deal with.
Yeah because social anxiety disorder is obviously just something he can turn off and get over whenever he wants. You’re right. Good call. Why hasn’t someone told him that already? He just needs some of your expert advice.
And why would he ever work for $35K a year? He’s already made $14.3MM from playing baseball. I think he’ll manage.
That said, tough situation for Khalil. I wish him the best in his recovery. Hopefully he can conquer his demons and have another few seasons left in him, or at the very least have a healthy life after baseball.
The internet truly knows no bounds of ignorance.
If you’ve never suffered through depression or anxiety it’s best to keep your mouth shut. It’s nothing something you can always just “man up” and deal with.
yes I know my comment posted 30 times but if the comment section was coded a little better it wouldn’t have.
Listen everybody, obviously Khalil is going through something thats obviously affecting him a great deal. It’s not our job talk about things he could do or the money he could be paid to play.
People have difficulties in life and that is their concern.
Our job should just be to wish him well and hope he comes back.
where were you people last week? i totally got ambushed by the apparently-huge population of mlbtr readers coping with deep anxiety issues.
No worries. It happens to me all the time, too.
Give him a break. He’s coping with something thats obviously affecting his life a great deal.
Stop. You’re depressing me.
You’re such a terrible person emp… just like me apparently.
I don’t think most people are playing in front of 45,000 fans everyday.
I just don’t think it’s something to make fun of. You wouldn’t make fun of a person with disabilities right? This is the same thing. He has a problem and he’s working on it and it is not our buisness to say anything bad about whats he’s going through.
You say playing in front of 45,000 every day is a bad thing. He plays a GAME for a living!!
Sure, he has a disability and i’m not making fun of him. Just saying he needs to man up. I’m guessing he doesn’t have children…..if he did, he’d know how to deal with a lot more.
Exactly. At least you get it.
I’m assuming these guys just have no idea what they’re talking about and they’re not just being jerkoffs.
Yeah, you’re probably right. That Mohammed Ali guy needs to “man up” and just get over that Parkinson’s.
Get a clue.
I’m not saying its a bad thing. Its just a lot.
You truly are one of the most ignorant people I have ever sen in my life. And the sadest part is you seem to think yourself some sort of expert.
Laughable. You know what? Social anxiety disorder and all, I’d take Khalil Greene’s contributions to society–hell, even from this point on an–over yours any day of the week. Grow up and learn something REAL about mental illness before you spout off, instead of your “I once knew a dude!” crap.
Judge everybody? Maybe just those who think making fun of someone with a disability is right?
You know, like you?
That was the point, genius (but you obviously didn’t pick it up), that they are both disorders that the affected person cannot do anything about. It is not a matter of “manning up,” which, obviously, the moderators of this board agree with because your posts keep getting removed. I don’t have anxiety/depression, but someone extremely close to me does. I used to have a similar mindset to you regarding the disorder, but I have learned the error in my ways. I am neither stupid nor uneducated, you are going to have to take my word on that. Until you know someone who is strongly affected by this, I understand that your mind will not change. But when you do, I promise you it will.
i’m glad you’ve realized you’re better than other people at such a young age. it takes many people years to become so full of themselves.
Says the guy telling someone with a disability to “man up”.
You’re a joke.
Trust me. It takes no time at all to realize what horrible people you and some of the others in this thread are. If Ryan doesn’t kill kittens for fun, he’s pretty much guaranteed to be a better person. A blind man could see it.
Depression and Social Anxiety are two different problems. Khalil has Social Anxiety.
b-t-dubs, i never said that.
pro-tip: know what you’re talking about.
whatever, i’m not going to have this argument again. i’ll post my main points and then i’m done with this.
1. i badly want khalil greene to recover
2. the sooner he makes it back to the bigs, the happier i’ll be.
3. i recognize depression and anxiety disorders are 100% real diseases.
4. i think it’s legit to wonder if quitting baseball is the right option.
5. i don’t think pharmaceuticals are the answer in every case.
6. i think khalil’s got a lot going for him (i am NOT saying money) and that this can help, not completely solve his recovery process.
7. i don’t think any of these opinions give you (or anyone else) the right to call me a horrible person.
thanks, and have a good day.
Empathize,
Most of your points are legit, and you aren’t a horrible person. I think the problem most people have with your argument, and certainly my biggest issue with your argument, is your #6. Yes he’s good at baseball, yes it’s been his life for a while, and yes positive baseball experiences could be great for him.
BUT major league baseball is played on a huge stage, in front of many, many, many fans. Many people with anxiety struggle to deal with even small groups – that Khalil has been able to succeed as an active major leaguer to this point despite the fact that he regularly plays in front of thousands of people is a true testament to the dude’s strength. Baseball could indeed help him overcome his anxiety. But playing in front of all those people – I don’t think he’s ready for that yet. Let him take time off, let him learn some coping skills, let him get better (like I imagine he tried to do last year, only more successfully), and THEN let him come back to baseball. He has to build up to it, and that’s my only issue with anything you’ve said really.
that’s completely reasonable, and you make a very good point. thanks for that.