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Elias Rankings Update

By Tim Dierkes | June 21, 2010 at 11:12pm CDT

After the season the Elias Sports Bureau will take all players over the 2009-10 period, divide them into five groups for each league, and rank them based on various statistics.  Then each player will be labeled a Type A, B, or none.  Those designations and the possible accompanying arbitration offers determine draft pick compensation (click here for a refresher).

Eddie Bajek has reverse-engineered the Elias rankings, and he's providing that information exclusively at MLB Trade Rumors.  Here's a look at how the players rank for the period beginning with the 2009 season running through June 20th, 2010.  The Google spreadsheet has separate tabs for each position group.  The players have about three more months to change these rankings.  Since last time, Adrian Beltre and Carl Pavano moved from B to A.

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  1. Friarhood

    15 years ago

    Only Padres ranked are no surprise.
    A – Adrian Gonzalez
    B – David Eckstein

    Reply
    • Yankees420

      15 years ago

      Bell and Gregerson are both Type A’s while Garland and Corriea are both currently ranked as Type B’s.

      Reply
  2. j6takish

    15 years ago

    Where does Carl Pavano’s moustache rank?

    Reply
    • venn177

      15 years ago

      Same place as Eric Bruntlett’s beard.

      Reply
  3. No Gimmicks

    15 years ago

    At what point will they recalculate the ratings based on statistics that actually matter?

    Reply
    • venn177

      15 years ago

      When Carl Pavano shaves that damn moustache.

      Reply
      • Kevin Chambers

        15 years ago

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

        Reply
  4. Rabbethan

    15 years ago

    Will Jorge Cantu be classified as a 1B or a 3B? He’s most likely going to be a 3B all of this year, was a 3B for a fourth of last year, and was a 3B in 2008. I think you guys have him in the wrong section.

    Reply
    • Eddie Bajek

      15 years ago

      Cantu’s position will be based on position with most games played between 2009 and 2010. Because I need to spit out projections for 800 players in the matter of minutes and can’t take every single subjective position change into account, the projections use the cumulative games played numbers to date. Once he’s played more games at 3B than 1B, he’ll shift over in the rankings.

      Reply
      • Rabbethan

        15 years ago

        Thanks for the answer.

        Reply
      • Rabbethan

        15 years ago

        Thanks for the answer.

        Reply
  5. lug

    15 years ago

    Do my eyes deceive me? Is that Sweaty Freddie I see as a type A?

    Reply
    • klassic

      15 years ago

      I am not sure who you are referring to as Sweaty Freddie, but I have always though that name went with Freddie Garcia. And he is near the bottom of the AL SP with neither A nor B ranking.

      Reply
      • lug

        15 years ago

        You are right they deceived me. Chicago A for American League not type A. Boy time for a cup of coffee.

        Reply
  6. TytheSportsGuy

    15 years ago

    LMAO at whoever gives up 2 picks for Ted Lilly as an A.

    Reply
    • User 4245925809

      15 years ago

      Don’t think the Cubbies have much to worry about. Offer him arbitration at 12m already made in 2010 and they stuck with him again for 2011 and add him to the list of dead weight contracts piling up already on that team.

      Reply
    • Zack23

      15 years ago

      The team signing Lilly only gives up 1 draft pick, LMAO

      Reply
    • Zack23

      15 years ago

      The team signing Lilly only gives up 1 draft pick, LMAO

      Reply
  7. mcornelius

    15 years ago

    Isn’t Kuroda a free agent after this year?

    Reply
    • Eddie Bajek

      15 years ago

      Not a six year free agent, so no compensation I believe. I think he has to be non-tendered to become a free agent.

      Reply
  8. budman3

    15 years ago

    Any reason why I can’t see any list? I get the post but nothing appears in the box. I see the arrows up/down and across and the google doc /report abuse and updates every five minutes at the bottom but that’s it. Running under explorerer 8

    Reply
  9. Drew 13

    15 years ago

    I swear, damn near every Twin position player is on that list…

    Type A: Mauer, Morneau, Hudson, Kubel, Cuddyer, Span…

    Not A: Hardy, Punto, Young

    A few pitchers too. Pavano, Blackburn, Guerrier…and Nathan?

    Not all of em are FAs next year, but still…

    Reply
    • ReverendBlack

      15 years ago

      …Still what?

      Reply
  10. Drew 13

    15 years ago

    I swear, damn near every Twin position player is on that list…

    Type A: Mauer, Morneau, Hudson, Kubel, Cuddyer, Span…

    Not A: Hardy, Punto, Young

    A few pitchers too. Pavano, Blackburn, Guerrier…and Nathan?

    Not all of em are FAs next year, but still…

    Reply
  11. Yankees420

    15 years ago

    Poor Eric Chavez and Mike Lamb, the only 2 guys on this list to receive a score of 0.

    Reply
  12. Yankees420

    15 years ago

    Poor Eric Chavez and Mike Lamb, the only 2 guys on this list to receive a score of 0.

    Reply
  13. User 4245925809

    15 years ago

    What is funny about these lists? the kid Daniel Nava, he who has *30* MLB AB’s is rated above around 25 or so players in the AL 1B/OF/DH category and it includes a few guys who had decent seasons last year and year before, or at least fair, like Mark Kotsay, Hank Blalock, Marcus Thames. not top FA’s by any means, but still…

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  14. User 4245925809

    15 years ago

    What is funny about these lists? the kid Daniel Nava, he who has *30* MLB AB’s is rated above around 25 or so players in the AL 1B/OF/DH category and it includes a few guys who had decent seasons last year and year before, or at least fair, like Mark Kotsay, Hank Blalock, Marcus Thames. not top FA’s by any means, but still…

    Reply
  15. Karl

    15 years ago

    why can i see it? :/

    Reply
  16. Karl

    15 years ago

    why can i see it? :/

    Reply
  17. Ferrariman

    15 years ago

    i really hope the cardinals get 2 draft picks for lopez but his type A is slipping.

    Reply
  18. Ferrariman

    15 years ago

    i really hope the cardinals get 2 draft picks for lopez but his type A is slipping.

    Reply
  19. martinfv2

    15 years ago

    For those who can’t see it try here:

    spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AoSOMyrC9cB7dGl3S…

    Reply
  20. quikag182

    15 years ago

    Jose Reyes is a type B? I’ll admit he’s overrated but still…

    Reply
  21. P W

    15 years ago

    how does this work that tulo is above hanley?? i mean tulo is amazing but i think hanley is a bit better…plus tulo has been on the dl quite a lot this year thus far.

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