Some links for Monday, before Mike Leake tries to restore order for the Reds…
- Mychael Urban of CSNBayArea.com explains why he believes the Giants should acquire bullpen help.
- Dave Cameron of U.S.S. Mariner wonders (via Twitter) if the Mariners and Blue Jays could swap two recently-designated players: Ian Snell and Edwin Encarnacion.
- D'Backs GM Josh Byrnes told Jack Curry of the YES Network that he will need "very significant players" in return for some of his stars (Twitter link). Sounds like Dan Haren will be hard to obtain this summer.
- Mariano Rivera told Joel Sherman of the New York Post that he doesn't want to think about his contract (it expires after the season) but would consider signing a one-year deal like Andy Pettitte.
- Wilson Ramos is thought of as the kind of prospect that could help the Twins pry Cliff Lee from the Mariners. But as Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune notes, the catcher will miss about a week with a strained oblique.
- Pat Andriola of FanGraphs names winners and losers from some 2008 deadline deals.
- Most expect the D'Backs to continue selling, but Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports notes (via Twitter) that no scouts made a special trip to see Edwin Jackson's most recent start.
- The Red Sox signed Jay Broughton from the independent league Calgary Vipers, according to Sean Myers of the Calgary Herald. The 23-year-old had enrolled in grad school, but he quit and Red Sox assistant GM Allard Baird took notice and signed him.
- Alex Speier of WEEI.com explains that the Dodgers, who lost to Clay Buchholz last night, nearly drafted the right-hander in the 2005 draft.
- R.J. Anderson of FanGraphs says the Braves could improve by adding an outfielder before the trade deadline. Few Braves fans would argue that GM Frank Wren shouldn't consider players like Luke Scott and David DeJesus if the price is right.
- MLB.com's Joe Frisaro says the Marlins need to solidify their bullpen if they're going to contend.
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“Few Braves fans would argue that GM Frank Wren shouldn’t consider players like Luke Scott and David DeJesus if the price is right.”
That makes no sense.
Lol, prolly a typo. I know I wouldn’t argue with nabbing either of those guys.
It makes sense, it’s just worded weirdly, he’s saying that Braves fans would like Wren to try and get a player like Scott or DeJesus if the price is right.
David DeJesus looks like the best available outfielder. Is Moore going to be smart and sell high?
How about a bidding war between the Braves, Giants, Red Sox, Tigers, Padres, even the Mariners-hey, they have GOT to find someone that can hit, even if they are playing to stay out of last place.
Can’t see the Braves getting into a bidding war. I certainly like the idea of DeJesus in CF for the Braves, but not at the cost of giving up a couple of good prospects.
All in all I just can’t see the Braves making any moves… not with Diaz coming back and Bobby’s track record of sticking with a guy even if he is sucking (i.e. McLouth). In fairness, I would have dropped Troy Glaus in May and benched Escobar in favor of a red-hot Infante and look at those guys now.
You forgot Francoeur.
In the article about the Braves, it mentions the possibility of Alex Gordon from the Royals… With talks o Chipper retiring at the end of the season, I think this would be a GREAT idea. It sets you up with a possible long term 3rd baseman for the future, especially since their farm system doesn’t really have anyone that seems capable at any point in the near future.
I wouldn’t mind giving up Schafer and another prospect for him, as Schafer isn’t doing much at all, granted he’s coming off that wrist injury from last year. It’d be a great deal in my opinion, and reduces the urgency that will come when Chipper retires.
Good idea except the fact that Gordon was sent to the minors to become an outfielder becuase of the hip problems and lack or range at third base. So not a valid idea.
And the Royals are never wrong about this sort of thing. “Talent evaluation superstars” is synonymous with the KC organization.
In any event, Schafer has virtually no value right now. Even Moore ain’t gonna do that.
kinda hard to be wrong with that sort of thing. And they are a major league baseball team who is nearly half run by guy who were working for the braves under scherholtz. So as far as good diciasions go the royals have made alot of them. Considering their payroll and national league kinda of play in the american league while I might add still drawing a rather large crowd. even at there worse, and this is a team that hasen’t even sniffed the air in October while playing baseball since 1985 (world series champs) Besides i would rather see escobar become a 3rd basemen and bulk up a lil bit and hit some HR’s we have a few good looking prospects that can play SS
That’s true, we do have a few SS prospects, and I think they drafted quite a few. I suppose they can also go the route of moving Prado to 3rd, and possibly look for a 2nd baseman? Anybody worthwhile for 2nd, you think?
in theory third base is a power hitting spot filled by someone with some range and a great accurate arm, aka (chipper) which is a great spot for a SS looking to bulk up. Arod, young. pardo can play it but i like him as a contact hitter with some power and he has become an amazing gold glove candidate at second and a prime leadoff hitter. I can see Escobar hitting HR’s in the upper teens lower 20’s to all parts of the park. but if something did happen, i like conrad, alot actually. Switch hitter with power and Grit. he couild be used as an everyday second basemen. or trade bate to get something in a package.
That’s true, we do have a few SS prospects, and I think they drafted quite a few. I suppose they can also go the route of moving Prado to 3rd, and possibly look for a 2nd baseman? Anybody worthwhile for 2nd, you think?
That would be a great line up for us.
1.Prado
2.Heyward
3.C.Jones
4.McCann
5.Glaus
6.DeJesus or Scott
7.Escobar
8.Cabrera
I would argue that trading for a red hot DeJesus or an Eric Hinske but worse (so far this year) clone in Scott is not in the Braves best interest. This opinion is built on the value of the players already on the team.
In RF you have Heyward who is obviously not going anywhere and is in the middle of making the adjustments to pull himself out of his K filled slump of a couple weeks ago.
In CF where you might put DeJesus, Cabrera has quietly become respectable posting back to back months of BA of .294 and .302 and OPS of .740 and .746 after a horid first month of .195/.287/.221. Now that isn’t world beating but because of his now suddenly decent bat and glove he doesn’t scream “Wren, replace me at once at the cost of any top prospects needed”. DeJesus would certainly be an upgrade at the plate but he wouldn’t upgrade the defense in CF and would be another LH bat in a lineup already crouded with lefties.
In LF you have Hinske who is hitting .317/.383/.563/.946 against RHP and has historically hit RHP well. Pair him with career .900-OPS-vsLHP Matt Diaz coming off the DL soon and right handed Omar Infante who also hits LHP well and you have an extrement solid LFer AND a deep bench.
So I say, stand pat and let the prospects develop in our system.
Something posters here could learn about patience is by looking at the only 3 double digit winners in the AL this year. Buchholz, Hughes, and Price are all gonna be all stars after going through early growing pains!
Doesn’t help at all that each of their teams are in the top 3 in runs scored…not denying they’re good pitchers.
Doesn’t hurt (Which I believe is the word you’re looking for) at all, no, but it also helps matters that two of them are in the top three for ERA in the AL, all three in the top 25 for WHIP (With Hughes just barely missing the top ten) and two of them are in the top ten in the AL in FIP (With price as #20). Not bad for league minimum guys that were written off early on.
i think we’re starting to see why their teams were so high on them, it looks like they’re all going to be aces after all. The younger players in baseball are starting to make an impact now, and it’s great to watch. Hughes, price, bucholz, heyward, tabata, alvarez, santana, posey, and strasburg.
The next generation of stars looks great doesn’t it?
The next generation of stars looks great doesn’t it?
As a Braves fan, I think making an addition of Brett Myers or Ted Lilly would add more wins to the club than the addition of DeJesus. When Jurrjens comes back you could either A.) leave Medlin in the rotation with the risk of his arm being wasted by September (he is already at 70% of his total innings pitched from last year) or B.) leave KK in the rotation with the risk of…. well, you know :0) . To me, improve the team the most by replacing the weakest link. Braves are (I think) 4-10 when Kawikami’s on the hill. Adding a Myers/Lilly would make a good rotation better while also imrpoving an already nails bullpen. IMO
That was my whole point… if you keep Medlin in the rotation the entire season then you run the risk of his arm being shot by September. Regardless of the rotation a bad start is bound to happen…. Medlin coming out of the pen to stop the bleeding early would be sick. Also, keep Medlin in the rotation and our back-up in case a starter goes down is KK (no thanks). All I was saying was, if the Braves are looking to aquire someone via trade I think Myers or Lilly would add more W’s to our win column than a Scott or DeJesus…. especially with Diaz coming back and Melky and Hinske holding it down as of late.
Whats the point of trading now. In this trade the braves would trade a pitcher. Why give away a pitcher that’s part of a top bullpen or starting rotation in the MLB just for another backup.The Braves fine with outfield. A super rookie in right (Jason Heyward), a player that will come around soon in center who will also be back from the DL soon (Nate McLouth), and then stud backups that share left field (and Melky Cabrera and Eric Hinske).
Chipper will never get out of his slump. Period. Place Omar Infante at the and let go of Chipper a bring up Fredie Freeman
Chipper could not get a hit the rest of the season and they still wouldn’t let him go. Besides that, he’s actually been doing pretty good lately.
Braves fans go crazy for Chipper and he hasn’t done a bit since 2008
Just wondering, who agrees that Chipper is done and they should take him out NOW instead of when he retires. Now all he does is take up a spot on the roster and DL
I’m not sure about trading for another outfielder. Jordan Schafer will get back on track eventually and I’m not sure who we would trade. We would have to drop either Melky or Nate which poses two problems. 1) Melky is raking right now 2)No one would want Nate. The Royals of course of plenty of washed-up Braves and after Mike Gonzalez I doubt Baltimore would want to have another Brave whose skills have taken a nose dive after leaving the Pirates.
Not at all sure McLouth will be ready to play when he’s eligible to come off the DL. He’ll almost certainly need some time on a rehab assignment.
Unless he gets healthy and bounces back in a big way, he’s a candidate for DFA at the end of the season. What a mess.
I just lost brain cells reading all of Red_Sox posts. Dude what in the heck are you thinking?
first off, LOL at you trying to act like you know more about the braves then their own fans.
I don’t like the idea of using Ramos for half a season of Lee.
I hope Rivera is serious when he says he’d consider a 1 year deal. I have the utmost respect for the guy, but he is turning 41 and if Cashman can get him to sign a 1/~12MM deal with maybe a mutual option for a 2nd year that would be great.
I’d prefer to see that price drop down to about 10 mil, though that’s pushing it.
Yeah, I’m not sure how much (if any) of a discount Mo will be willing to take, and all I really care about is that he stays effective and that the team doesn’t get locked in to too many years for a soon to be 41 year old closer. (even if it’s the greatest closer in the game)
I know I’ve said this before, but I still believe the M’s jump all over a Ramos-for-Lee deal without thinking about it. So he strained an oblique. Big deal. He’ll be back.
Wow, just about some of the most outrageous suggestions I have heard in a long time. Glaus at SS?! Hoo boy it’s entertaining when the Sox fans try and play GM. Stick to what you know baked beans, clam chowder, Ben Affleck movies… Leave the Braves to toil away in first place, roster is fine.
I like DeJesus but if the asking price is too high the Braves should consider outfielders from Seattle or Arizona, who are both 13 games out of first place and should be looking to shed some payroll and pick up some prospects.
Franklin Gutierrez plays impeccable defense and should OPS in the mid .700s. Gutierrez is owed about $17 million over the next 3 years. Seattle would probably need to be blown away to part with him, but you never know.
Chris Young is having a career year, which makes the $23 million owed to him over the next 3 years look almost reasonable. He has speed and power and plays a decent center field. This would be a big gamble for Atlanta, as Young has a Jeff Francoeur-like .312 career OBP. Wow. I just looked up Francoeurs career OBP…also .312. Creepy.
i still think the bravos should try to trade for a pitcher that they can plug in the rotation and get quality starts from. KK is pitching great but just has bad luck with wins. medlen is good and all but can his arm hold up. maybe we should flip one of our top pitching products for a mid-top tier pitcher to help make a run at the pennant. put KK and medlen in the ‘pen to complete one of the best ‘pens in the leagues
If the Braves are going to deal a top level pitching prospect it had better be for an inexpensive position player who can swing the bat and will also be under team control for several years. Teheran, Delgado and Viscaino should all be off limits for any trade talks.