4:23pm: The Nationals also acquire Tanner Roark, according to Anthony Andro of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
3:58pm: The Nats are sending just over $2MM to the Rangers, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (on Twitter).
3:23pm: The Nationals will acquire pitcher Ryan Tatusko in the deal, according to MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan (on Twitter).
2:49pm: The Nationals obtain two good pitching prospects who aren't yet major league ready, MLB.com's Bill Ladson told Jim Bowden of Sirius XM Radio (Twitter link).
2:13pm: The Rangers acquired infielder Cristian Guzman from the Nationals for prospects, reports MLB.com's Bill Ladson. The Rangers were linked to Guzman yesterday when Ian Kinsler hit the DL. Guzman, owner of 10-and-5 rights, agreed to the trade though it saddened him according to Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post.
Guzman, 32, is hitting .282/.327/.361 in 346 plate appearances on the season while playing second base, shortstop, and right field. He has $2.87MM remaining on his contract, but it was expected that the Nationals would have to pick up most or all of the tab to move him.
Are the new owners going to have any prospects left when they buy the team?
You’d be surprised how many guys with a lot of value are left after all the trades they’ve made. A lot of these deals are being made with mostly second or third tier guys (Except for Smoak, of course). The depth is amazing and a lot of the prospects they traded were being blocked by the fist tier guys; Perez, Scheppers, Engel Beltre, Profar, Moreland and so on. Plus, with the track record of the scouting department, these lower level guys will be replaced in 1-2 years anyway.
Damn, the Rangers are just going for it this year aren’t they? Can they afford to take him on too?
I believe the Nats are paying Guzman’s salary.and The Marlins are paying Cantu’s salary as well (I believe).
600 k of Cantu’s salary. The Nats are believed to be sending money along with Guzman.
The Marlins are only paying $500k of Cantu’s $1.2M.
Rangers are becoming a force.
WOW didnt see that one coming at all.
I wonder if this facilitates a Dunn trade now…..
watch out yankees!
yankees are getting nervous and are considering adding scott downs or berkman
There not getting Downs. The Jays want Montero for him and the Yankees are not the Twins trading a top prospect for some Bullpen Arm.
Oh please. Ramos sucks.
Since when?
Sure because all top prospects eventually make the Hall of Fame. Prospects are SO overvalued in all sports. For every 1 that becomes a star there are 10 that will not and probably half that will never do anything. Capps is a proven ALL STAR reliever going to a team that needed a closer and Ramos was blocked by the best catcher in the game. Great trade for the Twins.
I do not understand this at all. They are 9 games up on both the Halos and the A’s. Blanco and Arias can play a passable 2b until Kinsler comes back, then where does Guzman play? You sure as hell don’t play him over Kinsler
He’s a FA at the end of the season so it doesnt really matter. Plus he can fill in at other Positions when someone needs a day off
Kinsler won’t be out that long though, and they already have utility guys in Blanco and Arias. Like I said, I don’t see why this move was necessary.
I agree, Arias is almost as good as Guzman.
But I’d assume Blanco being DFA when Kinsler gets back, unless of course he has minor league options left… then the Rangers would have a very deep depth chart:
1B: Jorge Cantu, Chris Davis
2B: Ian Kinsler, Christian Guzman, Joaquin Arias
3B: Michael Young, Jorge Cantu
SS: Elvis Andrus, Christian Guzman, Joaquin Arias
and of course Arias can play a little 3rd and 1st, Davis can play 3rd, Cantu can play 2nd…
and Blanco would be ready to come up if anyone got hurt…
Davis is in AAA
Mitch Moreland has taken his spot as of yesterday.
ah, true, that makes sense.
Blanco is already ahead of Arias in the pecking order…come on man if you are gonna list rosters do some research
well, it’s just that Arias just started yesterday, and Blanco did not…
and Arias is good enough to be in the majors (as a backup), and Blanco is not…
and Arias has more games and At-Bats…
Blanco is a career .250 hitter, and a great fielding infielder…more than adequate as a utl. infielder in MLB….he is better than Arias. He is also a switch hitter.
Arias has no power and all his hits have been soft singles to RF, he is not near the fielder that Blanco is.
Flukey singles to RF…the high average is an aberration. His hits have eyes, and that is not sustainable.
Flukey singles to RF…the high average is an aberration. His hits have eyes, and that is not sustainable.
Neither Blanco or Arias have options left. That is why they have both been on the roster all year.
Hopefully one of them was included in this trade.
Doesn’t hurt to have one more right handed option to come of the bench in PH situations, but it will be very interesting to see what roster moves are made as a result of this trade.
Blanco or Arias will probably be gone.
I agree, but there seem to have been rumors that Kinsler is going to be on the DL longer than the current stint. Arias went 1-4 last night, but I guess that didn’t cut it for the Rangers as an audition? I understand Guzman is an upgrade maybe over Blanco and Arias and insurance policy in case Kinsler is out for a while…but I would have thought they would have prioritized another pitcher for the rotation to replace Feldman and/or Harden.
I agree, but there seem to have been rumors that Kinsler is going to be on the DL longer than the current stint. Arias went 1-4 last night, but I guess that didn’t cut it for the Rangers as an audition? I understand Guzman is an upgrade maybe over Blanco and Arias and insurance policy in case Kinsler is out for a while…but I would have thought they would have prioritized another pitcher for the rotation to replace Feldman and/or Harden.
rangers are all in for 2010, they’re mortaging their farm system to raise the market price for whoever wants to purchase the team.
if they go deep in the playoffs, their value would sky rocket.
The Rangers are in a position they dont have to worry much about a couple prospects their so deep. They haven’t had to give up their top ones so far in the moves they’ve made unless you include Smoak
their bankruptcy involves a pre-packaged plan to sell the team to Ryan/Greenburg. The value has already been determined, and MLB probably won’t concern itself if another bidder trumps that value.
They’re trying to win now because Ryan sees the opportunity and knows these things don’t come along all that often.
As a Nats fan I got to say that there is a joy to be found in late-August/early-September Guzmania that is one of the great intangibles in baseball. I’m happy that this gift has been given to a franchise that used to be the Washington Senators. //Short Stinks.
Rangers fans….whats the buzz on your end, who did you guys give us?
we are only hearing that we traded Guzman for Prospects (plural), but no word on which ones.
We know as much as you guys.
Daniels probably isn’t willing to give you any guys in the top 20.
He only gave Poveda, who is recovering from tommy-john surgery, (in the 20’s, future #5 starter) and Evan Reed (bullpen arm) for Cantu, who is much more valuable than Guzman.
Daniels probably isn’t willing to give you any guys in the top 20.
He only gave Poveda, who is recovering from tommy-john surgery, (in the 20’s, future #5 starter) and Evan Reed (bullpen arm) for Cantu, who is much more valuable than Guzman.
Tatusko is not in the top 30 Rangers prospects.
Tatusko in AA:58 k’s, 40 BB, in 100 IP…2.97 ERA is flukey IMO,.254 .avg. against, with 33 ER, 94 hits, in 100 IP…he is a dime a dozen
He is a sinkerballer.
Tatusko in AA:58 k’s, 40 BB, in 100 IP…2.97 ERA is flukey IMO,.254 .avg. against, with 33 ER, 94 hits, in 100 IP…he is a dime a dozen
He is a sinkerballer.
Tatusko is not in the top 30 Rangers prospects.
If any of you knew anything about the Rangers farm system, you would realize that we still have a top 5 system, despite the prospects we have traded.
We still have Martin Perez, Engel Beltre, Davis Stoneburner, Tanner Scheppers, Kasey Kiker, Wilmer Font, Miguel Velazquez, Jurickson Profar, Jorge Alfaro, Jake Skole, Kellin Deglan, Luis Sardinas, Robbie Ross, Robbie Erlin…I could keep going forever
The guys we gave up for Cantu weren’t even top 20 prospects in our own system.
they were ranked the #2 system before the year, but now they no longer have (#1) Feliz as a PROSPECT.They also trade (#2) Smoak.(#20) Omar Poveda left in the Cantu trade (#21) Michael Main left in the Bengie trade…
(#17) Beavan also left in the Cliff Lee trade of course…
but yes, they certainly haven’t ruined their system, (although they only have 20 of their top 25 from last year still with them as prospects) and as for very significant prospects, they only really lost Smoak, and they still have one of the best systems.
Only top 10’s we have lost in 4 trades, were in the same trade…Smoak and Beavan
A little surprising, given his salary. But I like it; Guzman isn’t a superstar by any means but he fills the role nicely until Kinsler gets back. The Rangers just won’t stop.
Rangers are really going for it and I love they have the Balls to make the moves to make their team better. They need a guy to fill in for Kinsler until he gets back…they get one…they need a guy to add more experience at 1B they get it… then when Kinsler comes back they have a deeper bench…great move
well, they’re smart… gotta give em’ that. they’re going for it all in 2010, and at the same time driving up the price for when the team gets auctioned. other gm’s might not like it, but major league baseball does.
well its a good thing that the MLb has allowed mark cuban and his billionaire ass to bid on the rangers…thats probably why they are spending this money now because cuban his more money than god and can take on all the money they are spending right now
And maybe Cuban can convince Ryan to stay on as President should his bid win. I don’t like Cuban but he’s passionate and if he makes the Rangers better I’d change my opinion of him.
If Cuban manages a higher bid – should it come to that – the people he needs to convince are the other owners, not Ryan. MLB can veto any other higher 100cent/dollar bidder, and Ryan/Greenburg are their favored suitors.
Thats kinda what I’m hoping for here, a group of Cuban, Greenberg, & Ryan (as President).
And maybe Cuban can convince Ryan to stay on as President should his bid win. I don’t like Cuban but he’s passionate and if he makes the Rangers better I’d change my opinion of him.
depending on the prospects given up i love this move for texas…and anybody who thinks its gonna seriously hurt there incredible stockpile of talent is way wrong..Texas has plenty of talent down there to play with, and its not like the big league team is all that old, so a lot of them would have been blocked
I wonder how much sleep Tim and his staff get this time of the year
Yeah the Rangers are giving up lots of prospects, but I can safely say they might one of the only teams that don’t need prospects for awhile. Andrus, Cruz, Feliz, and Hamilton are still under team control for little while longer. Feldman CJ Wilson and Julio Borbon aren’t going to cost that much. That’s a lot of impact guys they will have for awhile. They have Harden and Fransisco coming off the books next year which will pay for Hamiltons inevitable salary increase
Scratch Feldman, I forgot he was as expensive as he is.
For the most part we have given up quantity not quality. We have only given up 2 top 10 prospects-Smoak, Beavan.
“sources confirm Guzman traded for “prospects” Martin Perez and Tanner Scheppers”
Right, lol.
Maybe Engel Beltre as a PTBNL too.
Tatusko and Roark.
I can definitely handle Tatusko and Roark for Guzman. Guzman’s no superstar, but Tatusko and Roark aren’t even on the radar as far as Rangers prospects.
JD’s good at his job.
I can definitely handle Tatusko and Roark for Guzman. Guzman’s no superstar, but Tatusko and Roark aren’t even on the radar as far as Rangers prospects.
JD’s good at his job.
Tatusko and Roark.
you must have some good herb
The Greenberg group has supposedly upped their price offer for the team significantly to appease the creditors. Deal my actually get done before the auction of the team on August 4th, pending the approval of the judge. Mark Cuban is pissed….
Didn’t Nolan say he would only stay on if Greenberg got the team?
I’m not sure about that, but he is part of the Greenberg group. I just looked up current news for the auction, seems the judge has denied the offer and will auction anyways.
Good, Greenberg and Hicks tried to screw the creditors with Selig’s blessing.
Yes he did.
The auction will proceed. Earlier report was pure bullshyte and that sucks.
Ah, the end of an era. Goodbye, Cristian, the last original Nat. I wish you well.
Guzman is a Type B FA but just barely. That may have had a little to do with this. Jorge Cantu is just barely not also
I couldn’t see Daniels possibly offering him arbitration anyway, so his Type B status probably doesn’t mean much. Arbitration rules say that the Rangers’ minimum offer to Guzman through arbitration would have to be $6.4 million (80% of his current $8 million salary). There’s not a snowball’s chance that Guzman would get more than that on the open market, so he’d likely accept arbitration if offered.
Still like the move for both teams (Nats fan). Guzman gives the Rangers an upgrade while Kinsler is on the DL and upgrades their bench/utility infielder when Kinsler is healthy. Solid move for a contending team.There’s no way that Rizzo was going to offer him arbitration (see above), so he wouldn’t have even gotten a compensatory pick for him. Guzman is average on his good days with the glove at this point, both at second base and shortstop. Moving him will at least give the Nats a chance to get a better look at a few options….1) They can take a longer look at Alberto Gonzalez now. Gonzalez brings a plus glove to the position and crushes lefties, though he hasn’t really shown that he can hit right-handed pitching consistently. He’s not particularly young, but he’s affordable and probably figures to at least have a future as a utility infielder. More at bats are available now to see if he can be at least a stopgap at the position.2) Gives them a chance to take a better look at whether picking up Adam Kennedy’s option (which is pretty cheap, at around $2 million) is worth it or not. If the organization believes in Danny Espinosa (who would probably push Ian Desmond to SS), a Kennedy (LH hitter vs. RHP) and Gonzalez (RH hitter vs. LHP) platoon at the position would also serve as a solid stopgap.3) It could open up an immediate spot on the roster if Dunn were to bring a big league ready 2b back through trade. The focus with Dunn HAS to be starting pitching, but there would be multiple pieces if they move him. 2b was a pretty logical one already, and if they get a big-league ready guy, they don’t have to worry about working him into the lineup with Guzman gone.In truth, from the Nats perspective (again, that’s who I pull for, so I like to think I have a pretty good idea), getting anything for Guzman is worth it. I knew that they’d have to throw some money in to get anything back at all, and two basic Grade C-/C pitching prospects (generally organizational filler, but maybe one of them overachieves) are a lot better than the nothing that they’d have lost him for at the end of the season anyway. As I understand it, the money was $2 million, which shouldn’t quite cover all of Guzman’s remaining contract, so they save a little cash in the deal as well.
Oh…. and Ranger fans. Get ready for a bunch of 1 or 2 pitch at bats.
This is definetly a good move since groins strains are tricky and can linger, plus we all remember how long Kinsler was out to start the year with that ankle issue. Good insurance move.
I honestly hope they win it all this year… It would be a bummer if they didn’t.
I know, this team is fun to watch. They have the Ace, they have the Captain (Young) and Josh Hamilton is quietly having an MVP caliber season. They look like they are having a blast and have great chemistry. The only question mark, is the base running gaffes. I gotta give them credit for being ballsy though, sending Vladdy 1st to 3rd, sending Hamilton 1st to home. So far its worked out for them, I just hope it dosen’t bite them in the ass
Gotta agree with you. They are my 2nd fav team. I am really pulling for them since the Astros are out.
Rangers & Rays, any order. Theres your ALCS right there. Imagine the ratings.
Rangers and Rays could meet in the ALDS.
Gotta agree with you. They are my 2nd fav team. I am really pulling for them since the Astros are out.
Damn, the Rangers just keep adding. The AL is getting tougher and tougher.
I didn’t see this happening. The Rangers are really stockpiling players now, this is one of the rare cases where a team has more players than spots open for them to play. If the Rangers acquire a reliever that should be the final piece to their puzzle. They are a force to be reckoned with!
I’m hoping Davis Stoneburner wasn’t included in this deal.
NOTHING IS OFFICIAL YET, according to the Rangers front office.
I hope not. I really don’t like it, seems unnecessary.
Maybe people will stop ripping on the Nats and saying Rizzo is a dumb GM now. He’s cashing in pretty well so far, and we’ve yet to see what he will do with Dunn. Ramos may be overrated, but getting him and another prospect for Capps was great. I’m still pissed the Pirates non-tendered him.
They’ve brought in some decent players the past few years, and I like how he doesn’t feel too much pressure to move Dunn or Willingham. One will stay long term. Right now, he’s just cashing in on guys who don’t have that much of a long term future with the team.
Wow they will have some bad defense in that infield with Cantu and Guzman.
Wow they will have some bad defense in that infield with Cantu and Guzman.
No way we offer him arb so I doubt the type B comes into effect
No way we offer him arb so I doubt the type B comes into effect
Ooo, a SS past his prime! NY should be scurred!
Ooo, a SS past his prime! NY should be scurred!
Huh…browsed comments…still waiting for one of the AL East fanboys to show up and throw his two cents in about how the Rangers shouldn’t be allowed to make trades like these…
Huh…browsed comments…still waiting for one of the AL East fanboys to show up and throw his two cents in about how the Rangers shouldn’t be allowed to make trades like these…
Tanner Roark and Ryan Tatusko…
Depends on the $$ going Texas way. No loss to the Rangers system
Tanner Roark and Ryan Tatusko…
Depends on the $$ going Texas way. No loss to the Rangers system
This move doesn’t make any sense. The Rangers don’t need Guzman – especially at the cost of 2 solid prospects.
Rangers are my favorite to win the World Series.
How does a WS win affect the sale of the Rangers? Does it make it harder to purchase? Increase the value substantially?
Well we’ll see. The auction for the team is August 4th and I think the original asking price was around $520 million. That price could definitely increase, especially with Mark Cuban in the mix.