A Rays source tells Yahoo's Tim Brown that the team doesn't expect to acquire Jayson Werth (Twitter link). Before David DeJesus hit the DL, the Royals outfielder was a more likely target for Tampa Bay, according to Brown's source. The Phillies are shopping Werth, according to ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. They would like to obtain prospects – possibly so they can send them to Houston for Roy Oswalt – and Werth would be able to command some quality young players.
Werth projects as a Type A free agent and in spite of a recent slide (.612 OPS and zero homers since June 26th), has solid numbers for the year. His .279/.369/.498 line is quite good and he leads the league in doubles. Teams like the Rays, White Sox and Giants are looking for big bats, and the Phils can call on Domonic Brown – arguably the top prospect in the minor leagues – to replace Werth.
Amaro NEEDS to get rid of this bum. If we do NOTHING I’m gonna be really pissed.
A Philly fan who turns on a player in a heartbeat? Shocking.
Beacuse it worked out SO well the last time Tampa accuired a declining Philly outfileder…
Jason Werth 2010 >> Pat Burrell 2009 by a million.
Good for them.. The better player to go after is Corey Hart who they would at least have through 2011. Brewers want a ready to go ML pitcher. Rays might be willing to give up Wade Davis for him. I think they might want to trade off James Shields first and maybe the Brewers would prefer his experience. He has an escalating
contract that might be more affordable to the Brewers down the road and would become more cumbersome to the financially challenged Rays.
No, the Brewers would not prefer “experience” as “experience” really just means the guy is closer to FA when you’re talking trade value.
Usuaully that is correct but Shields is under contract thru next season and then follows three years of escalating options through 2014. So he has four years left to become a FA.
“Domonic Brown – arguably the top prospect in the minor leagues” … next to JP
Arencibia is 24 and repeating the level. Brown isn’t 23 yet and is destroying it in his first time through. Arencibia likely isn’t even the best catching prospect the Blue Jays have.
I think some confuse what is meant by ‘top prospect.’ Arencibia is arguably the most ready to face MLB pitching of anyone in that league. However, in terms of the full package, Brown’s potential, and likelyhood of reaching it, is much much higher.
Are you always right?? It seems so. . D’arnaud will have JP’s starting job a lot sooner then people think.
“Actually, the “bum” (which I’m not sure why you called him that) is the reason why Ryan Howard gets pitches to hit. So if you get rid of him, you get rid of Ryan Howard’s numbers. Thank You and your welcome. ”
not that you’re wrong in Werth being a quality player, but is there definitive proof that there’s such a thing as “protection” in a line-up? Can you show me where?
yeah.. david ortiz post manny ramirez
Right, because that couldn’t possibly just be an unathletic bat-only player declining rapidly in his 30s–which has NEVER happened.
I don’t think Werth goes anywhere. And if Werth goes nowhere, you can forget about Haren or Oswalt too.
“yeah.. david ortiz post manny ramirez “how is that definitive proof? I’m talking about an in-depth study, not some moron selectively choosing examples
The Rays are smart enough to look at Werth’s home/road splits, and the Phillies are probably asking for young starting pitching, so this isn’t a real surprise.
Yep, Werth hits all his home runs in one of the best HR parks in the majors. Sure hits a lot of doubles on the road though…
and seeing as JP Arencibia has a triple-slash MLE of .253/.300/.501 you should take his minor league numbers with a grain of salt
Because MLE is so reliable…
“Because MLE is so reliable… ”
you’re right, let’s bank on Arencibia posting a 1.000 OPS and being the top prospect in baseball. That’s more reasonable than expecting an .800 OPS and ~.310 OBP from a 24 year old repeating AAA ball (which may actually be a generous projection).
Will he be that good in the majors? probably not. But considering he had an corrective eye procedure done in the offseason and is seeing the ball much better, its not hard to believe that he won’t atleast be a pretty darn good player and one day an allstar.
You say he’s repeating AAA, while that does count for some advantage and comfort, MANY players repeat levels and don’t show that kind of consistent power and success. So is he the best prospect in the minors?? No, but its he really good? Yes.
you’re talking like you’re telling me something i don’t know, a .500 slugging from a catcher is quite good, we’re arguing the same thing, youve missed some of the deleted comments i assume but i was trying to point out hes not the BEST prospect in the minors
“actually played 4 years of D1 ball, while you probably sit around in chat rooms all day”
not seeing your point, i play competitive baseball too, that doesn’t exempt me from stupid opinions
mlb the show doesn’t count as competitive baseball
Mommy look! I’m trolling! I’m trolling!
“mlb the show doesn’t count as competitive baseball ”
this isn’t the place for these kinds of high school arguments, i’m done with you, and i guarantee nobody else here will give you the amount of attention i just did.
I wouldnt call Werth a bum but he is not producing. his average has dropped 60 points over the past few months.
I say get what you can for Werth because i would love to have another good starting pitcher. but if they don’t get rid of him, the picks, but i would rather have prospects rather then a few picks.
Agree. They need to move him to get something for the future. I hope we can get a younger pitcher that the Phils can control for a few years on the cheap. I love Werth but I don’t see him putting us over the top if we keep him. It is time to let D. Brown take over in RF.
I just wish we didn’t have to pay Ibanez and Lidge next year over $25 million. Lot of wasted money there. I hope they can pick up another starter in FA this off season. The cupboard is bare for starters and Moyer needs to go.
Thats the thing, why are they fielding offers for Werth when Ibanez is a lot older. Deal him for some prospects for godsake. Besides, isn’t his contract up soon.
Werth has been the subject of trade rumors since before his slump…everyone assumed he was gonna have another great year to back up his breakout year (it’s only halfway through and some, but still) and we wouldn’t be able to afford him. So really it just makes more sense now. But hey, he got an RBI yesterday so who knows??
Werth has been the subject of trade rumors since before his slump…everyone assumed he was gonna have another great year to back up his breakout year (it’s only halfway through and some, but still) and we wouldn’t be able to afford him. So really it just makes more sense now. But hey, he got an RBI yesterday so who knows??
This seems good for both teams. Trade Joyce and maybe a young arm (Someone needs to go, Hellickson can’t be in the minors forever), maybe Niemann? After Werth becomes a FA, Desmond Jennings should prolly be ready to take over in the OF.
Remember they’ll be losing Crawford too. Also, I really don’t think the Rays want Werth and his home/road splits at the price of prospects they’ll have to pay.
Remember they’ll be losing Crawford too. Also, I really don’t think the Rays want Werth and his home/road splits at the price of prospects they’ll have to pay.
This seems good for both teams. Trade Joyce and maybe a young arm (Someone needs to go, Hellickson can’t be in the minors forever), maybe Niemann? After Werth becomes a FA, Desmond Jennings should prolly be ready to take over in the OF.
This seems good for both teams. Trade Joyce and maybe a young arm (Someone needs to go, Hellickson can’t be in the minors forever), maybe Niemann? After Werth becomes a FA, Desmond Jennings should prolly be ready to take over in the OF.
Sorry for posting this twice, didn’t realize it automatically posted after making a new account…
Sorry for posting this twice, didn’t realize it automatically posted after making a new account…