The Yankees may be done for 2010, but general manager Brian Cashman's not taking much of a break to relax. ESPN New York's Andrew Marchand writes that Cashman will meet with co-owners Hal and Hank Steinbrenner on Monday to discuss their plan of attack for 2011, and there will be plenty on the agenda:
- The Yankees need to figure out what to offer Derek Jeter. According to Marchand, Cashman doesn't place any monetary value on Jeter's approaching milestones (such as 3,000 hits) and he's interested only in paying players for what they're worth in the win column.
- The same issue presents itself with Mariano Rivera. Marchand feels that Rivera will top his 2010 salary of $15MM, but is uncertain as to how many years Mo will ask for and how many the Yankees are looking to offer. That's a lot to risk on someone who's over 40, but it's hard to argue with Marchand when he says Rivera "seems ageless."
- There will also be discussions about what the club is willing to spend on Cliff Lee to pair him with C.C. Sabathia atop their rotation. Lee will be 33 next August, and is undoubtedly going to receive a mammoth contract this offseason. Marchand calls Lee the Yanks' #1 priority, but cautions against too lengthy of a deal. He speculates that as many as eight teams could be in the bidding for Lee.
- Given the news of Damaso Marte's injury that will keep him out beyond the 2011 All-Star game, the group will also prioritize a list of left-handers to pair with Boone Logan in the bullpen for next season.
It will never happen, but how awesome would be if the Yankees just let Jeter walk?
Why would that be awesome for you? People say they will love when the core four retire because they think it will somehow hurt the Yankees, but in reality those same people will end up missing those core four because of how great they were.
And who do you propose we put in SS? Nunez couldn’t even beat Ramiro Pena for the playoff spot. Jeter might not be the Jeter of yesteryear, but he’s certainly not a bad shortstop, especially given that SS is a traditionally light-hitting position anyway.
Nunez didn’t beat out Pena, because the Yankees always go with experience in the Playoffs. When Nick Johnson did not return in time, they went out and got Berkman, instead of using Juan Miranda who could could have done the same job as Berkman.
You, much like most fans want a proven commodity to replace Jeter, because he’s a ‘star’. Forgetting that all ‘stars’ at one time or another were once no name rookies too. Jeter will not play SS for the Yankees for the rest of his life,so its time for fans to get used to that, and let Nunez show what he can do.
agree even the Yankees understand how the service time game works.
except Jeter has never been “non name”!
Jeter got the Yankees job in ’96 only because the incumbant SS, Tony Fernandez suffered a broken arm late in spring training of that year. Few outside the Yankees organiztion knew who Jeter was then,and I suspect including you.
Shortstop is a defensive position, and Jeter has declined immensely defensively, so yes, Jeter is a bad shortstop. He should be the DH.
It’s not that he has declined immensely, he was just never that great a SS. He has always had range problems and he has only had 3 positive UZR in his 16-year career. As for him being a DH I would that that would be a waste. Unless he gets back to having a OPS over .850 he is useless as a DH.
I can’t think of any reasonable reason to re-sign him, but I think the Yankees will regardless. Jeter will be a liability at shortstop, and will continue to be going forward. He could move to 3B, but then what about Rodriguez, DH, shortstop? The Yankees just seem to be old.
i love how people attack you for a pretty obvious joke.
It would be awesome if they let him walk, and if he signed with some random small market team.
So there is no value to Jeter’s milestones, yet NY will give Arod a $30M marketing agreement based on home run milestones ($6M each for reaching 660, 714, 755 and tying and breaking major league HR record)
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They may feel burned by the A-Rod contract and not want to dip into that territory again.
Jeter isn’t going anywhere but for the record Cashman wasn’t the one that wanted to work out the new deal with Arod.
The difference is Jeter won’t be breaking Rose’s record whereas ARod will likely break Aaron’s and Bonds.
It is Cashman that claims he doesn’t put a value in career milestones. It was Steinbrenner who negotiated A-Rods last contract which gave him all these bonuses.
Jeter will not get hit #3,ooo in another uniform……
I seriously don’t get the Mo contract issue. He didn’t have a BETTER year than he did in 2007-2010. He is ALREADY the highest paid closer by a wide margin. Secondly, I can’t see Mo asking for more money and I can’t see him asking for more than 2 years. My guess is he signs for 2/$30. Jeter however, needs to take a pay cut.
Sounds reasonable. But let’s see what happens when the talking begins.
Personally, although it’s above market value, I wouldn’t mind offering Jeter 3/45. As for Mo there’s nothing to say about his market value, there’s still on one better. At age 41, though, maybe he’d accept a one year at 15. Taking into account the financial crisis that’s a raise.
Ahhh the Yankees. 9 players already add up to $145m for 2011 and that doesn’t include Jeter, Rivera or Pettitte (or Lee if they sign him). Can’t wait to see the first ever $300m payroll….
Won’t be any time soon.
It will be going down within the next 5 years. If you haven’t noticed, they replace payroll with payroll, they hardly add to it, as is the case with subtracting Giambi, Mussina, etc and adding CC, AJ and Tex. Posada’s contract will be off the books next year, then likely Rivera’s in a year or 2, as will Pettittes. I would be surprised to see them going down to 150-170.
Why do ppl act as if all of these contracts are compounding into perpetuity? The payroll is fluid.
2010-Johnson, Vazquez off
2011-Posada, Marte, Igawa off
Somewhere on there Pettitte comes off. 2013 AJ is done. Swisher, Grandy are done in 2-3 years. Arod, CC and Tex are the only ones that are locked in for 5 years or more.
The Yankees payroll has been around $195-$210 mark for the past 6 years, it has barely gone up and down2005- $208 million2006- $194 million2007- $206 million2008- $209 million2009- $209 million2010- $206 millionTheir payroll 5 years ago is teh same (techinically $2 million more) than it was this year
Still double most teams.
Technically you have Jeters 21mil, Riveras’ 15mil, Pettitte 12mil, Vasquez 12mil and Nick Johnsons 6mil coming off the books. That’s 66mil coming off the books. The payroll before the signings start will be at about 153mil. After the 2008 season over 80mil came off the books. Even with the signings of Texiera, Burnett and Sabathia the Yankee payroll went down from 209 to 201mil. I also added onto the payroll raises of Cano 1mil, Swisher 2mil and Granderson 3mil.
Cashman knows Jeter’s worth far more to the yanks than to any other team. If Jeter is worth $6M a year on the open market then he’s worth at least $12M a year to the yanks. He’ll agree to Jeter’s price.
I doubt Cashman will fight w/ Jeter but I hope Jeter is reasonable as well. He shouldn’t get any more than $18 mil. Even at $18 that’s double what he could get on the open market.
Despite my assertions that Jeter will get whatever he wants from the yanks, I do feel strongly he won’t test the question. Jeter has always been of the attitude that the game and the team matter more than himself. My bet is the negotiations will be Cashman asking Jeter his price, Jeter stating a price that’s inflated for the open market but reasonable for the yanks, and Cashman will write a check. Simple.
“Jeter has always been of the attitude that the game and the team matter more than himself.”
I’ve said it here dozens of times before, but if that were at all true then Jeter would’ve moved off of short for A-Rod when he was brought in.
Red Sox have done the same with their players and will do the same with Ortiz this year
Not as much spending as the Yankees will, but the Red Sox will agree to pay what they ask for.
Ortiz and Jeter are completely different animals. So are Jeter and Varitek. Jeter has been been the face of the the most prominent franchise in baseball for years.
The amount of money that they ask for will be different, and although Jeter’s been there longer, what Ortiz and Varitek have meant for the Red Sox is just as big. And I think only the Red Sox would give them what they ask for. Same for Yankees with JEter and Rivera
Not so sure about that. When Varitek’s numbers dropped into the toilet, they relegated him to a backup role as soon as they were able to. Beyond that, last time his contract was up, they made it pretty clear they would let him walk when they waited until late in the offseason to re-up him at a fraction of his previous deal.
I wonder if the Yanks can circumvent the whole Jeter payroll issue by offering him a lifetime service type deal? Let’s say they offer him 3/$45 mil plus another $30 mil paid off in 10 increments of $3 mil to be an assistant to the President, etc. You see guys like Nolan Ryan, Tino Martinez and Reggie Jackson w/ those sorts of positions. Is that possible?
I’d be more comfortable with Jeter getting a deal to play out his last few years and then a second deal that puts him in the rest of the organization. Jeter’s already said he wants to work within the Yankee Organization after he retires, and I think it’s absurd the Steinbrenners/Cash/etc wouldn’t welcome him into it in some sense.
You mean deferred payments?
isn’t his dream to own a team? chances are he will never own the yankees so that deal might not be appealing to him
If he doesent own the team he also said he wants to work within the organization…
Mo and Jeter will get their money as they should. I would rather have the players making the money, instead of the owner. Ticket prices are not going down. Their are many owners who are werth more than the Yanks owner, but they don’t want to win. Minny could have kept Santana,and Seattle could have kept Johnson , A-Rod ,and Griffey to name a few. If their is no cap, then I have no problem with them playing within the rules.
One approach I would definitely try to negotiate with Jeter is to use Cliff Lee and other additions as leverage. Tom Brady renegotiated his contract to get Randy Moss involved, and the Yankees could pitch Cliff Lee in much the same light with Jeter. I’d imagine winning a couple more rings – and having the players around him to make it happen – would mean more to Jeter than his salary.
The Pats have a cap and the Yanks don’t. Jeter will be signed he is worth more to the Yanks they will give him 4yrs – 75 mill. Jeter knows the Yanks always go after the best available talent.
how long do you guys see mo staying around? another year or two?
The year he breaks Trevor Hoffman’s save record i think.
Probably when he feels he’s ineffective… so 2022?
Alright just resign Jeter and Mo so at the end of the deal they retire. That way the Yankees can start thinking about the future more, and worrying about who is gonna fill that position. Before that I would advise to let Pettitte know that he can call them whenever he wants with his decision. Then I would look at possible candidates for the pitching coach position, and narrow them down and hire someone(Curt Young, Dave Righetti, Rick Kranitz are possiblities). Meanwhile if they reall want Lee(ugh…)then offer him 5 years and the same money CC earns yearly with an option. That’s the highest they should go, and if Texas offers more then just let them have their future albatross and look at other pitchers who are on the market not named Grienke. Then fill any remaining holes in the BP, and bench.
Montero (and some other prospects) for Matt Cain. Who hangs up first? Giants have Lincy, Sanchez, and Bumgarner already in the bigs as the future of their rotation. They have Barry Zito who is good enough to be a #4 starter. And then they still have Zack Wheeler in the minors. Montero can get out from behind the plate and play first as the Giants know Aubrey Huff isn’t going to be there much longer. A 3-4 of Posey-Montero cold be deadly in the future.
Pipe dream
How’s about not trading Montero
honestly, like whats with yankee fans ?
The last decade has been succesful because of the uprising of home grown, yet you have this highly touted prospect and almost every yankee fan talks more about what they can flip him for rather then when he will make his major league debut.
its baffling.
Ik. It’s annoying and I’d wish Cashman would just come out and say he’s an untouchable
Who hangs up first? The Giants. Cain is an ace, Montero is a wannabe.
The Yankees are going to wind up with 9 D.H.’s.
8 and cano.
Yeppp, cause Mark Texeira, BG, Granderson, and Swish are all DH’s… ??????? not really
Before the season started, I was saying I wanted Crawford. However, after seeing Gardner this year, I’m not convinced that the money would be better used in other areas of need (pitching). Besides that, I swear I read somewhere that Crawford doesn’t want to leadoff anymore/much longer.
As for Jeter, it is much like Girardi: they both want each other. As long as there is mutual respect, as I anticipate there will be, there shouldn’t be any big hitches. Same goes for Mo…his situation is easier IMO. I’d say $15M/year for each of them is fair.
The comment about Jeters’ approaching milestones having no monetary value is totally transparent and the Yankees should be embarrassed that Cashman said it. Just a few years ago they offered A-Rod millions for his milestones and he hadn’t yet put one championship banner in the rafters. Jeter, who has been the face of the Yankees, deserves better than this insincere posturing by the GM. Shame on you…
maybe he’ll leave and sign with the orioles
Then Cal Ripken will sign with the Yankee’s to play SS.
It’d be the end of the world in NY… lol
I think Jeter enjoys winning so you know that won’t happen.
yes because i was so serious billy…. geeze get a grip
Jeter has no chance to survive he should make his time. SOMEONE SET JETER UP THE BOMB
… In related news today… Mariano Rivera has negotiated a new deal that will have him pitching until he reaches the age of his uniform number, whereby Phil Hughes quickly offered to change uniforms with him.
I think that’s sarcasm but, I would be upset if this were true. Mo is gonna be the last ever to wear #42, it’s an honor to wear that number and I would never give that up.
Henry, all the fighting you done against the legions of Yankees haters, lately has really made you just a tad paranoid. That is not sarcasm, it was meant to be a joke. I’m sorry it went over your head but I’ll try and explain it to you.
Mariano is 41 years old this month. If he pitches to his uniform number, he pitches till he’s 42, if he trades uniforms with Hughes, he’ll pitch until he’s…? 65!!
That’s all that was meant. How you could interpret that as a slap at Jackie is truly a scary reach on your part.
trade swish (despite i love him) and sign werth. swisher is great but cannot hit in the playoffs, and werth is a great postseason hitter