The Padres exercised their 2011 option for Adrian Gonzalez today and saw Yorvit Torrealba and Jon Garland turn down their sides of their respective mutual options. Here's the latest on those three players, plus other updates on the Padres' offseason plans:
- The Padres will meet with the agent for Gonzalez, John Boggs, this week, according to Dan Hayes of the North County Times (on Twitter). Presumably the meeting will help the sides determine whether a long-term deal is possible. It certainly doesn't seem likely.
- Torrealba told Hayes that he'd love to return to San Diego, but is seeking a two-year deal (Twitter links). The catcher is a Type B free agent, so the Padres could get a draft pick if they offer arbitration and Torrealba turns it down to sign elsewhere.
- David Eckstein, a free agent, probably won't return to the Padres in 2011, according to MLB.com's Corey Brock.
- Brock points out that Jon Garland will likely make more on the open market than he would have with the Padres (Twitter link).
The Padres should try and get Olivo and the Rockies should try to sign Yorvit Torrealba.
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Padres Trade:
Bell 4 Bartlett and Garza
Pitching prospects 4 Weeks
LeBlanc 4 Ziegler
Prospects 4 ellesbury
sign burrell and garland or kuroda
(Gonzalez 4 Kendry and Trout or Bourgous)
Prospects for Ellsbury. No way that will happen.
with Deno
chris denorfia? yeah, he has tons of value. phht. 30 year old that never have played 100 games in their career aren’t worth much.
Sox are really going to make the post season. Deno played good ball and is better than Darnell Mcdonald.
The logic that the middling talent you are trading for is better the target player’s than the target player’s replacement is nonsense. The Red Sox are itching for a healthy season of Jacoby Ellsbury and will not trade him unless they are getting at least a blue chip prospect and a major league ready player.
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“(Gonzalez 4 Kendry and Trout or Bourgous)”
Please, please tell me your kidding.
“Bell 4 Bartlett and Garza”
Please, please tell me your kidding.
No Bell had an FIP under 2.5 his 1st 2 years as closer How many Rays have done that! Garza has had an ERA of about 4 each of the last few years and had a 4.5 FIP this year, those numbers scream out average. Bartlett hit .254 with a high BABIP (.299) Kendry is good but paired with Peter B is barely worth Gonzo. Gonzalez hit .300 30hrs 100 rbi’s in PETCO with nobody around him, (imagine him on the reds), he would hit 50 with a .310 avg with the angels and tori hunter.
Bell has 1 year of team control left. Garza has many more
Bell extension
Reliever for a starter. Bad idea regardless of who the reliever is.
LOL
wasnt Bell traded for a starter?
no, he was traded for OF (Ben Johnson) & reliever (Jon Adkins)
ahh yes. i was wrong. thanx
The Rays won’t have enough money to keep Carl Crawford. What the hell makes you think they’ll take an overrated Middle Reliever turned Closer for arguably two of their best players?
two of their best players? since when? Bartlett could be nontendered this season. if that is one of their best players, then this team shouldn’t have made the playoffs. Garza is the #2 starter and should be worth a nice piece, but bell isn’t that nice piece. i think garza is probably worth more unless the padres are kicking in some cash, which isn’t gonna happen because they can trade bell without forking over money to some other team.
look at above comment
How in the world is Bell overrated? He should be regarded as one of the top closers in the majors. Harry your comment makes about as much sense as that trade proposal.
What the Padres do from here on out really depends how that meeting goes with Adrian, but whatever happens with him they are going to need a table setter that can play CF (as venable is much more suited for a corner outfield spot in spacious Petco). Its going to be tough to find someone that can fill that need as they are most likely going to have to be acquired through a trade.
Losing Garland is a bit of the blow. I have a lot of faith in Stauffer I really think he’s going to turn heads next year when people see the numbers he has and Luebke seems to be a serviceable 5th starter at the very least. I would like them to bring back Chris Young for cheap for a 1 yr deal and if he cant’ stay healthy then they can always bring up their number one prospect Simon Castro.
I might say he is one of the top 20-25 closers of all-time. He is if anything, extremely underrated.
Not that hard to be in the top 25 though when the closer role has only been around for 25 years or so.
Obviously the 2 Padres closers that jump to mind are Hoffman and Gagne.
Eh. I want to see his park-adjusted numbers and a worse defense behind him before calling him anything other than “successful so far in his not-all-that-long career.”
Good thing you aren’t the GM, or are you?
Dislike and who knows mabye I’m Jed Hoyer for all you know
There is so many things wrong with this statement I’m not even going to begin trying to correct it.
they need dislike buttons and what is wrong with it
Please stop…Sox dont want prospects for ellsbury, they want major league players that can help them next season.
Ok how about 3 way deal to send Elles to SD
That would be more realistic.
There is a deal to be made between the Padres and Rays, but Bell for Garza and Bartlett isn’t it. I think Bell for Bartlett and Sean Rodriguez is more likely.
Weeks is (I believe) arbitration eligible, which means he won’t be a Padre. They won’t want to take on that salary risk.
The Padres don’t need Zeigler and LeBlanc has no value.
The only way the Padres trade for Ellsbury is if Adrian is involved.
Kuroda is a good fit for the Padres, but they are unlikely to pay for his services.
Burrell is also a good fit, but it won’t happen. He’s going to re-sign with the Giants.
Thnx 4 Being nice about it
Kuroda and burrell 4 about 5 mil with options
ziegler if we deal bell
ells is falling faaaaaasssssttttttttt!!!!!
weeks Hoyer’s genius so maybe he could figure out away 2 get $$$
garza (will make 4 million and bartlett) is a good deal 4 both teams
Even if they trade Bell, they won’t need Zeigler. Â Their pen is deep (Adams, Gregerson, Webb, Frieri, Mujica, Thatcher, etc). Â
The Rays would get more value by trading Garza by himself. Â They would risk getting less value by packaging him with Bartlett. Â Someone will give up a ton for Garza if they decide to move him.
The Padres would probably have to trade something they don’t want to in order to get weeks (probably one of their young arms). Â It’s probably not as easy as just throwing a couple prospects at the Brewers, especially after the year Weeks had.
Chances are pretty good that any moves the Padres do make will be cost conscious. Â In other words, they’ll be looking to trade for young, unproven guys with upside to build around. Â They probably won’t be spending the prospects or cash it will take to bring in true impact talent.
How about Heath Bell for Ellsbury straight up?
Sox would never do that.
If the Sox are going to play hardball in any trade with Adrian, the Padres
should just trade him to another team. The Red Sox farm system is not much
different then the Padres and is probably not as strong as the Padre Farm
system.
The Padres need to make sure Headley improves his conditioning this off-season.
Theo needs to do whatever it takes to land Adrian Gonzo. Trade Jacoby Ellsbury,Ryan Kalish,and Kelly for him. Then sign Crawford and Werth
No.
Some Yankees and Red Sox fans have no understanding of limited resources. “Oh, we’ll just expand our payroll by $45 million!” The Red Sox have much bigger problems to address than their corner positions this offseason, starting with their underachieving starting pitching.
42214221 – Please, just stop embarassing yourself by babbling and then liking your own comments. I don’t care for clout points, but it was rather amusing – now just annoying.
With players turning down their options, I’d surmize that it would be prudent for the Padres to trade Gonzo now and get the biggest return they can. He isn’t going to resign.
I’m not liking my own comments and I made good points
Trade Paps,Ellsbury,Kelly,and a few prospects for AGone and Bell to the Sox
lol
I sure hope that was tongue-in-cheek.
paps isnt going to SD. if we dont want to pay him, SD def wont pay him. If i was Theo i would throw the house at adrian…sign papi 3/21mil! with adrian in the lineup we could be scary. we would also have enough for werth…sign buck or try for napoli.
ellsbury
pedroia
gonzo
youk
papi
werth
drew
napoli or buck
scutaro
could very well happen and be a scary lineup!
we would get ells
can a man be greedy? yeah i thought about that afterwards but was too lazy to change. replace ells with….who cares who!
We dont want Paps, but we will take Daniel Bard and Doubront [instead of Kelly].
I was just checking out the Redsox top 10 prospect saccording to Baseball america and would a deal centering anround Kelly and Fuentes for Gonzo not make sense. Obviously the Redsox won’t give up Kelly and Iglesius, but the Padres need pitching and athletes up the middle and Kelly and Fuentes would fit the bill. I know Theo loves his prospects, but getting Gonzo with an extension in hand for your #1 and #6 prospects and some b prospects sounds pretty good for both teams.
As for Bell, Hoyer needs to contact the Yankees about Gardner and the Angels about Bourjos. They both could instantly play center and bat leadoff for the Padres.
I really would not trade Gonz to the Red Sox unless Ellsbury is coming back
our way. As for Bell, I wonder if the Yankees would give up Montero [the
good hitting catcher] + a B level prospect. I am not a big fan of Kelly at
this time, the Padres have a bounty of starting and bullpen pitchers coming
through the system. I really am not that enamored by the Red Sox prospects,
because they mirror what the Padres already have making their way through
our system. The Padres will now have good MLB prospects at AAA or at a
minimum AA that play 1b, SS, 3rd and 2nd. No catcher within a few years.
We all saw what a good hitting catcher can do for a team ————– look
at Posey on the Giants. I really think a “Healthy” Ellsbury would make such
a huge difference at the top of the Padre lineup and in CF.
With Ellsbury entering his arbitration years and Boras being his agent, I don’t know if the Padres want to get into that headache. Not to mention, I think Gardner is a very similar player to Ellsbury, he just doesn’t get the love in NY because he doesn’t make 15 mil. As for catcher, if the Padres are going to hopefully play small ball with good pitching and defence they need a good defensive catcher who can call a decent game. It is very hard to find a Mauer or Posey and by all accounts Montero won’t be at catcher for long.
I think Montero would be ok as a catcher. They said Khalil Greene could not
stay at shortstop either. I would take a chance on Montero as my backstop,
given his bat. I agree that Gardner would do just fine in Petco as our CF;
although, I would prefer Ellsbury. The Padres are going to have to have
some players that they pay the market rate on and Ellsbury’s market rate
should be affordable to them. No doubt the Padres need to get some good
pieces for Bell and Gonz. It turns out that Richard may be the only
serviceable player the Padres received for Peavy. I would see what it would
take to get Rasmus for the Cardinals and would go so far as to use Richard
as a center piece to get that done.
I don’t think they can get rid of Richard. He’s such a bull dog and they need all the pitching they can get. If they could somehow get there hands on Rasmus without dealing anyone from the Major League staff, which I don’t think they can, it would be fantastic.
Oh yeah, I’m not giving up on Poreda just yet. He’s still young and has great stuff, he just needs better command which usually comes with better mechanics. Balsley work your magic.
“The Meeting”
Hoyer “Good morning, so what kind of deal are you looking for long term?”
AGon’s Agent “More then the 6M he is getting this season for sure.”
Hoyer “Ok thanks, I wouldn’t be expecting an offer from us”
Agon’s agent” No sh*t, I told you we could have done this over Skype..”
Whoops! Yeah he was a Dodger. I dunno why I was thinking that – perhaps it was because he’s Canadian.
I dont think Garland would do very well playing in Colorado. Garland benefited quite a bit from pitching at Petco Park.