Brian Cashman told Newsday's Ken Davidoff that the Yankees have offered Derek Jeter multiple deals and received one counter-offer (Twitter link). One of the deals the Yankees proposed was worth $45MM over three years, but Jeter's representatives didn't seem to like it. Agent Casey Close told Mike Lupica of the New York Daily News that he found the Yankees' negotiating strategy "baffling."
Earlier today, Cashman told Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork that Jeter should test the open market if he believes the Yankees aren't offering him fair deals. Now, Cashman tells the Newark Star Ledger that he doubts Jeter truly wants to remain in the Bronx (Twitter link).
"He should be nothing but a New York Yankee," Cashman said. "He chooses not to be."
But the Yankees' tough talk may subside eventually; Jon Heyman of SI.com hears on Twitter that the team is likely to offer more than $45MM. If you ask Joel Sherman of the New York Post, Jeter's position in the negotiations is essentially "I am Derek Jeter, pay me."
Derek Jeter is a joke…
I agree… The media made Derek out to be more than what he his…. He is OVERATED and OVERPAID through the years of his playing days…. Come on, does he actually think that he is more worthy than Josh Hamilton, Albert, Etc. WHAT a BIG JOKE… Go home…
In terms of generating revenue for his team, he is MORE “worthy than Josh Hamilton, Albert, etc…” The MLB is a business, and every teams’ primary source of income is TV revenue– it’s no coincidence that all wealthy teams are in large market areas, and all poor teams are in relatively small TV/Radio market areas. As a baseball player, Jeter has played like a HOF’er, however, he is now playing like an average MLB shortstop when his entire game is taken in to account. However, the amount of $ in viewership, ticket sales, merchandise purchases and positive attention that he will generate for the Yankees while he spends the final years of his career breaking/closing in on records while in a Yankee uniform will exceed $45 million throughout the next three seasons. Period.
Casey Close, like all agents is simply trying to redirect some of that excess profit into Jeters’ pocket.
“Behold! I am Derek Jeter, all powerful, all knowing! Your offer does not amuse me!”
in other words…
I’m the most over rated SS in the game.. Pay me like I’m Albert Pujols!
Albert will get a lot more than even Jeter’s last contract of 10/$189
It was an exaggeration of how Jeter thinks about himself….
Rereading the comment I should have realized that. My bad.
Amazing….When people say over rated, i ask to who? How is Jeter “over rated?” He just won another gold glove (his 5th -2nd in 2 years) was a ROY and 11 time all star. He is a .314 career hitter and all around clutch player. So tell me how he is over rated? You can’t. Jeter is still one of the better shortstops in the game, even with skills that are fading. 3 years at 45-50 million seems fair. Hey -someone just paid Huff something like 22 million for 2 years!
You do know that gold Gloves mean absolutely nothing, right? It’s ridiculous to even bring that up to try and defend your position.
C’mon man – nothing??? Tell that to Ozzie Smith, Brooks Robinson, Keith Hernandez, etc. I think there are a lot of people who respect defense.
Sure. Bring up people who were legitimately good defensively. Jeter’s not. He was up to a few years ago, but his range factor is terrible.
Sure. Bring up people who were legitimately good defensively. Jeter’s not. He was up to a few years ago, but his range factor is terrible.
Yeah, every analyst said that Jeter didn’t deserve the Gold Glove. All Stars are voted by the fans. The only thing that proves is that his name is well known. It doesn’t make him worth $15M for 3 years. Aubrey Huff had great numbers and was what like 6th in MVP voting or something. $11 a year is a little high but not bad. Jeter WAS good, yeah, but he was already paid for those years.
On any other team he would be looking at 2/17 or 3/21.
Its the Yankees overspending that created this monster.
Yeah, every analyst said that Jeter didn’t deserve the Gold Glove. All Stars are voted by the fans. The only thing that proves is that his name is well known. It doesn’t make him worth $15M for 3 years. Aubrey Huff had great numbers and was what like 6th in MVP voting or something. $11 a year is a little high but not bad. Jeter WAS good, yeah, but he was already paid for those years.
His UZR was like -5.9
2010 UZR/150 -5.4
Jeter’s defense is bellow average. Put him on any other team and he is not even in the GG conversation.
“3 years at 45-50 million seems fair”
You are correct. The problem is Jeter wants a lot more than that.
I know………
Huff had a season that warranted that deal, Jeter didn’t have a very good season. And that gold glove was a joke, I mean how do you win a gold glove with a -4.7 UZR?
You are 100% correct. ONE SEASON! To throw that money on a guy with one season? I rather pay Jeter a little more for having 12 great seasons.
Baseball is an industry that you are paid on what you’ve done lately, so yeah Huff is going to get his payday, just like Bautista is going to get a raise. But when you’re an aging SS who can’t field and could barely hit this past season, you shouldn’t be surprised when the market for your services don’t include $20M/yr offers.
They have already paid Jeter for those 12 years.
Yeah cause SS really start to hit prime when they are 36. His defense has been bellow average his whole career and will only get worse as he ages. He is worth nowhere close to 3/45. He should take that money and run.
Stand firm Cashman!
Apparently UZR is not the first thing coaches/managers look at.
doesn’t Cano have a bad UZR rating… no one is complaining about his GG
Think he did this year, although stats show he had the most asissts, most putouts, fewest errors, and most out of zones played made. Don’t know how that makes a negative UZR.
I think Ramirez should have won the GG at SS, but Andrus fans didn’t seem to realize he was barely above average this year, compared to last year when he should have won it, although last year Jeter had a very good year defensively.
Cano isn’t a free agent expecting to be paid 20MM/yr.
He’ll be expecting a lot more than $20 mil when he is….
Because every objective measure (i.e. not Gold Gloves) says Jeter has always been a crummy defensive shortstop, and he sure isn’t getting any better at 36. He’s always been a very good hitter (just okay in 2010), but some Yankee fans talk about him like he’s the 2nd coming of Ruth. He’s good, but he’s not at that level. If he didn’t play his whole career in the media capital of the US, people would view him more along the lines of Barry Larkin or Robin Yount. Those guys are great; that’s not taking anything away from Jeter. He’s just not Ruth or Mantle or DiMaggio. That’s why he’s overrated.
Well he beat out a bunch of other shortstops, didn’t he? Says something- so he can’t be as horrible as everyone makes him out to be at that postion. I disagree, i think Jeter has now established himself in the class of Mantle and Dimaggio (no one is with Ruth). Look at all the Yankee records he has been breaking. He has the rings too. On Def – no he is not in their league – few are, but overall, yes he is a Yankee legend. And….for the record as much as i love the Yankees, i am not that big of a Jeter fan myself and i am defending him to the end. Commical.
It says that more old, oblivious and often lazy sportswriters voted for him, that’s all. Gold gloves usually go to the most well known player at a position (which usually means the best offensive player), not necessarily the best fielder. Look at any fielding stats you like: UZR, Total Zone, DRS, range factor (baseball-reference.com and fangraphs.com are good starting points if you’re interested). Jeter has pretty good hands and a decent arm, but he has always had very little range, and that’s death at shortstop.
Well he beat out a bunch of other shortstops, didn’t he? Says something- so he can’t be as horrible as everyone makes him out to be at that postion. I disagree, i think Jeter has now established himself in the class of Mantle and Dimaggio (no one is with Ruth). Look at all the Yankee records he has been breaking. He has the rings too. On Def – no he is not in their league – few are, but overall, yes he is a Yankee legend. And….for the record as much as i love the Yankees, i am not that big of a Jeter fan myself and i am defending him to the end. Commical.
3000 hits is overrated? The greatest shortstop in Yankee history. You must not be a Yankee fan.
3000 hits is overrated? The greatest shortstop in Yankee history. You must not be a Yankee fan.
Offensively Jeter is head and shoulders above Larkin and Yount. Yount wasn’t even a SS for his entire career. Keep in mind his career line is something like .315/.380 w/ over 200 hrs. He will be only the 3rd SS w/ over 3,000 hits with the other ones being Honus Wagner and Cal Ripken and Ripken’s 3,000 was more a product of longevity and his career bat avg and obp aren’t close to Jeter’s. If Jeter can have a solid 170 hits over the next 3 years he’ll also pass Honus Wagner to be the all-time hit leader for SS and still end with a .300+/.370 + avg/obp line.
who cares stay on topic
Things are getting interesting at least.
Im Derek Jeter a fraud well past my best and washed up – pay me
Hey Jeter keep in touch with yourself at the Pirates
I am Derek Jeter, the greatest of all Yankee shortstops ever! If I am not resigned the fans are not going to be happy.
And when he is resigned for 4/5 years and his numbers regress even further than his abysmal 2010 each year and his defense forces him in to the outfield then to DH what do you think the fans are going to do? By the time this next contract is up he’ll be getting booed in his own stadium.
I have no idea what they would do. I doubt he would go out on the field if he has diminished skills.Only players in the steroid era ever produced much at 40 years old, and of course Ted Williams did alright. Barry Bonds whose head looks the size of Secratariat was able to get better with age. A product of the steroid era. No one really has any idea what is going on with Jeters contract. Of course the press would not wildly fuel the flames with lies half truth etc.I hope Jeter can retire a lifetime Yankee, and he is worth more to the yankees then on the open market so I am sure they will reach an agreement. As far as the rumors, not worth a red cent.
I have no idea what they would do. I doubt he would go out on the field if he has diminished skills.Only players in the steroid era ever produced much at 40 years old, and of course Ted Williams did alright. Barry Bonds whose head looks the size of Secratariat was able to get better with age. A product of the steroid era. No one really has any idea what is going on with Jeters contract. Of course the press would not wildly fuel the flames with lies half truth etc.I hope Jeter can retire a lifetime Yankee, and he is worth more to the yankees then on the open market so I am sure they will reach an agreement. As far as the rumors, not worth a red cent.
First, I am changing my name to Derek Jeter. Then I will ask my boss for a raise.
Ask? Ask? If you are Derek Jeter you do not ask for anything!
And then take Minka to dinner.
And then take Minka to dinner.
Pay the man, Cashman. Bert and Ernie hair ain’t cheap.
Judging by just these comments, Jeter is just making everyone hate him by dragging this out… He doesn’t need more money (that’s easy to say when you’re not in his position though) he’ll always have a baseball job if he wants one…
And that’s exactly why the Yankees have more leverage than the media has given them credit for.
Nah these are most likely people that hated him already. No matter what happens he will be worshipped by Yankee fans for the rest of his life. He would basically have to come out and say “F New York, i always hated that place and its fans” to lose any support.
I’m really surprised Jeter has let this become so public. I would have expected him to take the approach Rivera has.
What do you mean? He hasn’t said a word. The Yanks front office are the only ones firing cheap shots. Jeter has said nothing. His agent and Cashman should have repeated these two words when asked anything concerning Derek Jeter. “No comment”.
What do you mean? He hasn’t said a word. The Yanks front office are the only ones firing cheap shots. Jeter has said nothing. His agent and Cashman should have repeated these two words when asked anything concerning Derek Jeter. “No comment”.
Jeter better humble himself. He’s not that good, and certainly not getting that type of dough elsewhere.
I hope he hits the open market and Baltimore is the only team to make him an offer, of 1yr/ $500,000 lol
But he would look better in a Pirates uniform!
But he would look better in a Pirates uniform!
I love that Casey Close is “baffled” by the fact that the Yankees are “only” willing to pay Jeter about 2.5x what he’s worth now and not pay him like he’s 27 years old all over again. He should be thankful he’s even getting an offer as ridiculous as 3/45.
I wonder if Casey Close is also mystified by ships in a bottle, Magic Eye books, Where’s Waldo, and attempting to count the number of scoops of raisins that go into a box of Raisin Bran.
Haha, have to say I loled at that last bit.
Glad I could be of service. I’ve done my good deed for the day. 🙂
Just being the devil’s advocate here, but are you saying that insinuating that Casey Close is a retard is a good deed?
Nah, just bringing amusement to another commenter. However, if you wanna get transitive on me and say that A = B = C, well then I suppose so.
Although in my defense, I never used the word “retard.” Waldo is an elusive fellow who’s not easily found by the untrained eye.
epic
Haha, loved this post. I can picture Close looking at the ship in a bottle like “Howya doin’ that?”
Can’t wait til the Red Sox step in and give him a HUGE offer. Nothing would please me more than to see that soap opera unfold.
-An A’s fan that hates the boxsox and yankee$
thanks for the hearty laugh.
The Red Sox have a ton of problems, at short ain’t one of them. They don’t have the time, nor the money, to go after a shortstop.
Time? Probably not.Don’t have the money? Gotta Lol @ that.Don’t matter much anyway, Jeter won’t go to Boston unless the Red Sox were willing to offer him another 10 year $189 million lol
I would love that, not because i hate the yankees or anything because i dont. But because i would love to see the bosox get even older and get stuck with the single more over rated SS in the game and stuck with a horrible contract when he cant hit or field at all…yes it would make for interesting drama for a season MAYBE two then when his age and bad baseball catches up with his ego the bosox will rue the day they delt with mr drama derek jeter
The Sox would make him a huge offer but I don’t know if Jeter will switch to playing 3rd.
/sarcasm
hold your ground Cashman
Seriously. If they give in to his demands, they don’t deserve to win. Jeter needs to get over himself.
The only explanation I can think of is that Jeter truly wants to leave the Yankees but is trying to make it seem like they abandoned him so he won’t piss off the millions of fans who have worshipped him for over a decade. Yet he’s pissing off fans right now by pulling a stunt like this. What other team would sign Jeter for more than 3 years/45 mil? If he really wants to leave the Yankees, it’s not because of money. There’s probably stuff happening behind the scenes that we don’t know about.
yeah Jeter definately wants to leave the Yankees the off season before he becomes the first Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
It would be ironic if Jeter took his ego and went to the Giants.
or took his talent to miami
“south beach”
lol, “like” times 1000
lol, “like” times 1000
All the guy wants is an extra year.. Why is everyone making it sound like he’s asking for a 10 year 200 million dollar contract??I mean the Yankees pay a premium on talent, whether its home grown or via free agency. Arods getting 33 million then 26 until he’s 39, they are going to sign Lee to a long contract.. To me I just don’t get why they are making a stand with Jeter. Give him the 4/60 he wants and move on with the rest of the off season or give him a player option for 12 million for the 4th year.. if he regresses that much DJ would surely decline it and retire.. To me I don’t think he’s being greedy, some of the biggest salaries in the league are on the team, why should he settle and be the nice guy to take take the pay cut.
You sound baffled.
great insight.. do you have a blog or something I can subscribe to?
Because most of us like to use, you know, logic.
On the next “Deal or No Deal” Free Agent Shorstop Derek Jeter! (Clips shown with Derek saying No Deal multiple times)
Show starts. 26 models come out with 26 cases. 25 of 26 cases have good and great offers, 1 has the bad offer. 10 of the models- Minka Kelly, Adrianna Lima, Mariah Carey, Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel, Lara Dutta, Vanessa Minnillo, Vida Guerra, Lara Dutta, and Vanessa Minillo
To skim forward, Derek Jeter has turned down multiple offers from “The Banker”, Brian Cashman
Howie- I think you will be happy to hear this next offer. $45 million dollars!
Derek – Sorry Howie, I’m the team captain I deserve more, No Deal
We get to the end with the final offer and 2 cases remaining, the 2 cases are his original case, Case #2 for his number, the other is number 26, which represents one of probably 26 women Jeter has dated since he’s become a Yankee, and it happens to be his newlywed wife Minka Kelly.
The final offer from The Banker aka Cashman, 4 year $100 million. Jeter- NOOOOOOOOOO DEAL.
Jeter decides to keep his case and ditch Minka Kelly and keep his orginal case, #2. His final offer he turned down $25 million a year for final year.
Jeter opens his final case, and it turned out to be the Bad Case – A 5 year deal with the Baltimore Orioles for league minimum pay.
Derek’s final words- “Well Howie, the difference between approximately $500,000 and $100 million is huge, as well as playing for a contending team and a pretty bad team. Turns out the banker made some wise offers and I should have taken at least 1 of them”
After a long delay, the Banker calls back Howie and says he has 1 more final offer for Derek. Howie- “The banker has informed me that his computer in his booth has crashed down from the excessive amount of emails from the millions of Jeter fans in NY and they are saying you should earn what you want. Just tell us what you want and we’ll give it to you.”
Derek- DEAL! Give me all the money you have in your account, and throw in a few more models so I can have 26 “lovely ladies” instead of 10
In the end, Derek got what he wanted, the Banker wasn’t an extremely happy man.
“See you next time on Deal Or No Deal”
On our next show- Cliff Lee.
Sad news… You’ve been canceled!!
It will be re-scheduled since for the first time in history, 2 bankers will have different offers.
What i don’t understand is why the yankees wouldn’t offer him arbitration. Especially if they knew they were going to use this “test the market” tactic. It would give them so much more leverage, because even if a team REALLY wanted to piss off the yankees, they wouldn’t sacrifice a high draft pick to do it.
No Arb was offered to Jeter. So, no loss of draft pick
i know, i’m saying they should have
No Arb was offered to Jeter. So, no loss of draft pick
In essence what they were saying was “we’re not going to offer you arbitration and STILL no one is going to pay you near what we’re offering”. Kitchen’s closed, cancel Christmas.
What i don’t understand is why the yankees wouldn’t offer him arbitration. Especially if they knew they were going to use this “test the market” tactic. It would give them so much more leverage, because even if a team REALLY wanted to piss off the yankees, they wouldn’t sacrifice a high draft pick to do it.
No other team is going to offer as much as the Yankees offer. Jeter has no choice, he has to sign with the Yankees. The Yankees need the money for other players.
jeter is gonna take alot of there money cuz he wont be worth it for 4 years trust me but he will be paid alot of money
To me, it looks like the Yankees have to Over Pay Again sense, no one wants to play for the Yankees. Jeter you be lucky to get 8 mil in free agency
One big thing everyone is forgetting…what team would be ballsy enough to make him an offer?!?!? They’d be a laughing stock!!! There are a few GM’s out there that have a true set of grapefruits though…
I could see the Giants doing it. We love to over pay old people
If the ChiSox needed a SS, KW would be all over this.
So glad we don’t need a SS.
We? Who do you play for?
^ “Dislike”
We? Who do you play for?
If the ChiSox needed a SS, KW would be all over this.
So glad we don’t need a SS.
One big thing everyone is forgetting…what team would be ballsy enough to make him an offer?!?!? They’d be a laughing stock!!! There are a few GM’s out there that have a true set of grapefruits though…
Some food for thought on Jeter:
Name WAR OPS Fielding Batting
Jeter 2.5 .710 -4.7 -2.5
J. Uribe 3.2 .749 6.8 .2
M.Scutaro 2.1 .721 -4.8 -3.9
C. Pennington 3.7 .687 9.9 -0.5
A. Ramirez 3.8 .744 10.8 -2.2
Jeter is now just an above average SS. With skills going down a 3/44 contract is MORE than fair. Granted he has done more for than Yankees than anybody since Mantle, but he also got paid for it. Jeter got over 20mill a year to do what he did. He earned his last contract. His new contract should refelect his current value, not his past accompleshments (as great as they are).
Using the numbers for good instead of evil, I like it.
This is starting to sound alot like “The Johnny Damon Story” of a year ago. Damon turned down the Yanks best, fair offer, on the advice of his agent. He held out until the day before spring training was going to start and ended up on his knees accepting a deal with Detroit for substantially LESS than the Yanks had offered him months before. More players should tell their agents to, “sit down, shut up, I’m driving the bus now”, like Arod did to Boras. The agent is in it for HIS bottom line, not the players best interest.
very smart reply the agents get a percent of the players salary guys like sheffield were smart to be there own agent
Sounds like we have some angry, issues? I am noticing a change in the running of the team since The Boss died. The Yankees field as many or more home grown players from their minor league system than EVERY team they play. They have been and are, a better run organization. You sound like a frustrated Boston fan. Just don’t start kicking the dog, change teams. You’ll find the frustration will disappear. Chill out.
dude stay on topic its just baseball not life lmao
Mike, you there? Looks like somebody is having fun with your comments. Not me.
Remove the fact that Jeter is a lifelong Yankee, and then think about giving him a three or four-year deal. Ridiculous.
I was reading through the comments on a RAB post and noticed that someone linked to a corrected version of Cashman’s quote above. The actual quote says “He should be nothing but a New York Yankee, if he chooses to be” as apposed to “He chooses not to be”. I just thought you guys (MLBTR writers) should know as the corrected quote gives Cashman’s stance a much less harsh tone. BTW, I don’t know if anyone has already noticed this.
im really looking foward to what insiders say jeter’s market value is outside of the yanks. the dogers offering a 2 yr 20 million dollar deal? haha jeter just take your money and stay a living legend.
im really looking foward to what insiders say jeter’s market value is outside of the yanks. the dogers offering a 2 yr 20 million dollar deal? haha jeter just take your money and stay a living legend.
Please, Derek — turn down the Yankee offer and let the team spend the money more wisely instead of flushing it down a rat hole in year two and three of your contract. What 37/38 year old shortstop in the history of the game has ever been worth anywhere NEAR $15 million per year. I don’t know of a single one. And I believe Derek’s OPS after the All-Star break last year was all of 682. What a waste. Overplay your hand, please….
You know I was laying in bed next to my wife and I asked “Baby do you think Jeter is holding out for more money because of Arod’s contract”? After she rolled her eyes and rolled over I thought about it. Maybe that’s the case? Maybe it’s about showing him the respect he feels he deserves not so much for his legacy as a Yankee but more for the length of the contract Arod has? Maybe he would take $15 mil per if it were for 6 years so that he retires the same year as Arod?
I feel bad for Cashman because he seems to be the only one in the FO who operates this team like it’s a business. That Arod deal was worked out between Arod and I beleive Randy Levine and Hank via Warren Buffett and some dude at Goldman Sachs who were mutual friends w/ Levine and Buffett. Cashman and Boras were just brought in to do the language and minor details. However, I wonder if this is the reason Jeter, and to an extent maybe Mo, are towing a hard line.
If this ends with Jeter settling for less than he wants I wonder how that will play out between Jeter & others with Arod in the clubhouse. One of CC’s concerns before he signed was how was the relationship between Jeter and Arod. Winning in 2009 seemed to keep thing cool in the clubhouse but I hope things will be as cheerful if they don’t win in the future? I hope this Arod/Jeter contract differential doesn’t cause future problems?
arod signed his in his prime without boras jeter is past his prime with a lesser agent.you do realize they wouldnt have won a thing without jeter and rivera and once there gone there wont be anyone to replace them who can match them.try following other teams and btw no one cares for you or your wife not everything in the mlb is what you think there is more to it than any fan knows.
First off the Arod deal was signed in the winter of 2007. Not exactly in his prime at age 32. The agent doesn’t matter since Boras didn’t take part in the negotiations and no other team even bid on Arod. Either way, who and how Arod’s extension with the Yanks was worked out is insignifigant. My point is that I wonder if Jeter’s reason for holding out for more is influenced more by his desire to match up with Arod’s deal or more because he feel his value/performance hasn’t declined as much as others feel it has. But thanks for your intelectual offering and insightful response. Also, I consider myself a fan of baseball and not just a fan of the Yanks.
Btw, does the “33” in your name refer to your age, your love of James Shields or your IQ score?
My name is Derek Jeter, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
i think the nyy are in the wrong how do you act like jeter hasnt done a thing for them.sure jeter isnt gonna be as good for 3 or 4 years but he has all the leverage there is no shortstop on the market or in free agency that would compare he surely has enough money to survive.i wish the rays would have had a guy like jeter during his prime on there team myself.it would be nice to see him go to another team he is declining as a defender i know the gold glove isnt a true way to see that but there dh spot is clogged with posada and he wont be in the outfield with there 3 guys there now.its a painful realization that he will be paid alot of money but wont be the jeter of old.plus all this negative attention wont go over well especially in NY but in the end no one is gonna pay premium for a guy in his late 30s on the decline who wants 4/6 years thats shooting yourself on the foot territory
So in the same “paragraph” you write that the Yanks are in the wrong because of what Jeter has done but then say that no one else is going to pay him a premium and giving him 4 to 6 years would be like shooting yourself in the foot?
Great post. Your ability to see clearly thru the landscape of sports economics is reminiscent of the late Mr. Quincy Magoo.
Btw meet Mr’s . ? , ! ” ” and ;
He’s gonna get booed heavily in Yankee stadium till he reaches a milestone, than all is forgiven.
This idea of the Yankees needing to pay Jeter for past services is a JOKE when Jeter just finished a $200M deal that he was not even remotely worth