Mariners outfielder Greg Halman was killed early this morning, Dutch police told the Associated Press. Halman was stabbed to death, and his brother has been arrested as a suspect. Halman, 24, was a native of the Netherlands.
Our thoughts are with Greg's loved ones.
Wow life is so short, my blessings go out to his family and the mariners organization.
Terrible. RIP.
Prayers for his family.
Gecondoleerd en sterkte voor alle familie en vrienden.
Jesus. Terribly sad. R.I.P Greg Halman.
No way…. Thoughts are with his family. And, no offense, but who liked that? :/
How tragic, what a sad and odd pattern of events to unfold with MLB players this offseason in their home cities. May justice be swift and unforgiving.
Very tragic. May he RIP.
wow…
Oh GOD
Oh GOD
How saddening; 24 years old and murdered just like that. RIP.
Kidnappings, stabbing. It’s really unfortunate and there is no happy ending for this one. Thoughts are with his family and if his brother really is the culprit…he is one messed up dude. What on this earth is worth killing your brother for?
Sad. RIP.
Damn!!!!
What terrible news to wake up to, RIP
Very sad news.
The Nats catcher Ramos is probably taking it especially hard given what
he went through thinking he was going to be killed as well. This may
really open some big wounds including survivors guilt despite unrelated
events.
doubtful.
His brother killed him. Just assuming, but they most likely knew each other very well and probably got into an altercation that turned sour. I’m not sure why you would think Ramos would feel guilty. Should Ramos now feel guilty every time someone is violently killed anywhere in the world? Not sure how the two are related whatsoever.
Really oldoak33, Is this really the time to start a debate. Say your peace & beat it.
Pot calling the kettle black? I’m sorry, I thought this was MLTBR not a memorial site you put up in Greg’s memory. I won’t apologize for voicing my opinion on a public forum using appropriate and respectful wording.
No, I agree with oldoak, partially. I agree that Ramos is likely not feeling any sort of survivor’s guilt, but I also agree with LongTimeFan that this might reopen some wounds for Ramos.
I am truly saddened by this tragedy. I just don’t know why we should be mentioning other players with circumstances totally unrelated to Greg’s murder.
Oldoak33, what Ramos went through will impact him, traumatize him for the rest of his life far greater than has been broached in public and perhaps what Ramos is yet to experience.
Now today, a young man, Halman, a member of the tight knit baseball community, is murdered at 24, same age as Ramos who somehow managed to escape death literally with a gun pressed up against his hand and forcefully taken, his life on the line every moment for 51 hours, but for him, not knowing the outcome until it occurred. The chances are good Ramos knew Halman or knows someone who did. In traumatic events, people feel survivors guilt quite frequently and I think there’s reasonable chance Ramos is trying to wrap his arms around his fate – that he survived – while a fellow big leaguer just fell to a violent death….but for the grace of God go I.
You ask, “Should Ramos feel guilty?” The keyword is “should.” One cannot rationalize what is a powder keg of emotion, post-traumatic stress disorder and triggers that will impact Ramos in the months and years ahead.
Ramos has suffered a traumatic event, and frankly, many Latin American ball players have suffered through violence (events that don’t make the news here) in their respective countries. They are targets, they lead lives of fortune and tragedy at the same time. I have many friends that are Latin American ball players, and the stories they’ve shared show the unbelievable contrast between our country and theirs. I have spent brief stints playing in Latin America, it is a different world, especially for targets such as a ball player that has made a living in The States.
I am not unaware of emotions and psychological impacts facing Ramos, but in the world he lives in, violence is all around him. I’m sure he’s lost friends or family members to his country’s environment. Kidnappings, killings and corruption are part of everyday life in Venezuela. I am not doubting Ramos is severely traumatized, but I simply assert that Wilson Ramos has likely witnessed crime and tragedy that we here in the states cannot comprehend. I assert that emotionally and mentally, Ramos has endured a lot more than we credit him for. I apologize if I offended anyone. As part of the professional baseball community I take these two separate events extremely seriously and my prayers go out to every victim of violence.
Sorry I didn’t get around to responding until now. I meant to say that I found this comment was extremely insightful, and, I believe, quite accurate. It may be true that Ramos has lived in a society plagued by violence, as have many other latinos, but the fact remains that no one who has done so remains unaffected by it, regardless of whether the effects are visible or not. So regardless of what he may be used to, it is quite likely that at some point Ramos may find himself reflecting on his fate vs. that of Halman, and feel the effects you describe…because he is human. Living in a different world is not sufficient to take that away, no matter what coping skills he may have acquired.
Really sad :(
Oh my god.. condolences to his family.
This is what the world has come to..
…He was murdered in the Netherlands.
Is that not a part of “the world”?
wilson edited his post, it used to say ‘america’
My Prayers and Best wishes Are with his Family………
Hard to believe…he was playing in the Majors just few months ago. RIP
OMG how awful!!!!! Condolences to his family, friends and the Mariners :(
His Brother!!?!?
wow this is just awful. you think you’d be safe among your own family, in your home city no less…as someone else said: may justice be swift and unforgiving
Awful news. RIP
Heart breaking news…he had a chance to be a good ballplayer, but regardless no one deserves this. Sad day for everyone in baseball.
To lose one’s life at such a young age is horrific. Condolences to his family and loved ones.
peace be with his spirit and loved ones. very sad
To die at such a young age and in such an horrific manner is mind boggling. Condolences to his family, loved ones and associates.
Rest in peace. Thoughts go out to his family and loved ones.
Rest in Peace, young man. My condolences and prayers to the Halman family.
Tragic, rip.
I saw him in ABQ this summer when he played for Tacoma. I took an interest in him and Alex Liddi since they were Europeans. Incredibly sad news to hear about this.
WHAT????????????? R.I.P GREG
My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends..and the Mariners Organization..
My prayers to his family and to the Mariners organization. A terrible tragedy.
What a travesty. RIP Greg. Was looking forward to seeing you in Spring Training making it out of camp next year. Field of Dreams just got a new outfielder.
WoW!!!! His own brother. RIP
Terrible news, he was a great athlete, much better person, R.I.P Greg Halman.
R.I.P.
Wow. Wtf. First the Wilson Ramos ordeal and now this? This goes to show you that no matter what happens in the game of baseball, Life > Baseball. My condolences to the Halman family.
Hopefully this thread can stay troll free.
My thoughts go out to the Halman family.
Greg Halman (DOB 8-26-87) was about the same age as Red Sox outfielders Josh Reddick (DOB 2-19-87) and Ryan Kalish (DOB 3-28-88).
To offer some perspective, each outfielder appeared for one year on Baseball America’s Top 100 prospect list: Kalish at #96 in 2008, Halman at #57 in 2009 and Reddick at #75 in 2010.
My thoughts go out to the Halman family.
Greg Halman (DOB 8-26-87) was about the same age as Red Sox outfielders Josh Reddick (DOB 2-19-87) and Ryan Kalish (DOB 3-28-88).
To offer some perspective, each outfielder appeared for one year on Baseball America’s Top 100 prospect list: Kalish at #96 in 2008, Halman at #57 in 2009 and Reddick at #75 in 2010.
A sad day for an organization; my condolences to the family, team and fans…
Well, that sucks.
R.I.P Greg. You will missed. My thoughts go to the Mariners organization,his family and his fans.
Baseball Lost a great guy… very fun guy to be around and to talk to. I remember the first time I met Halman, I wanted to sign him to use our Batting gloves and glove, He was very polite when he told me he was very happy with the service his batting glove company was giving him and he wantd to stay loyal.
Baseball need guys like Greg… my thoughts and prayers go to his family that really lost 2 of its kids, may God forgive his brother for what he did.
Lery Duran
Louisville Sluger / TPX
Thoughts and prayers go out to his friends and family and also to the mariners organization.
RIP Greg Halman, he had a promising future he was incredibly athletic and could spray the ball to all fields. Truly a sad day for fans, the mariners, and his family. And i just dont understand how someone could kill their own brother, let alone one as amiable and hard working.
Prayers to Greg and his family