Let's check in on the latest from Red Sox and new GM Ben Cherington….
- Boston has inquired on Freddy Garcia, a source tells Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald.
- The Red Sox will meet with David Ortiz's agent tonight, tweets Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe. Rob Bradford of WEEI (Twitter link) hears from a source that the Sox have already made Ortiz a contract offer.
- Ortiz continues to say that he'd like to return to Boston, and will give the Red Sox a chance to match any other offer he's considering, according to the Boston Herald.
- At least one more managerial candidate, in addition to Dale Sveum, is expected to get a second interview, tweets Silverman. Principal owner John Henry says the team is making sure not to rush the process, writes Scott Lauber of the Herald.
- In a separate tweet, Silverman says Cherington will travel to the Dominican Republic, at least in part to get a first-hand look at Yoenis Cespedes.
- Their current investment in other starting pitchers means the Red Sox will have less interest in Yu Darvish than they did in Daisuke Matsuzaka when he was posted, says Abraham (Twitter link).
- The Red Sox and Cubs touched base again on compensation talks today and will revisit the topic tonight, according to Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston (via Twitter).
- Josh Reddick will have wrist surgery, but expects to be healthy in time for Spring Training, reports ESPNBoston's Joe McDonald.
Great attitude, David! If I were a GM for one of the 29 other teams, I would want to make you an offer right away!
Eh, that’s a pretty common thing. It basically just tells other GM’s that they need to make him a serious offer (i.e. enough money/years that the Red Sox wouldn’t go “well at that price, why not?”) if they want to pry him away from Boston. I doubt it’ll stop one Mr. Anthopoulos from putting forth an aggressive offer.
AA won’t go after Ortiz, they will lose draft picks.
I just remembered hearing that the Jays had “serious interest.” Also, who knows if that’ll still be true in a couple weeks’ time.
If the CBA eliminates type B compensation this off season, there is no way that AA will touch a free agent, where one of his two first round picks are involved. He would be losing four picks through the CBA and that will inpact things dramatically.
I’m not even sure the Red Sox offer Ortiz arbitration. He won’t get as much money as a free agent as he will if he accepts.
This will be a tricky one. Arbitration could award him as much as $14mm or so. I’d imagine teams wouldn’t be willing to go more than 2 years and $18mm-$20mm(max). I wouldn’t be surprised if the Red Sox just pass altogether.
david ortiz is the only one that wants david ortiz on more than a one-year contract. boston will be just fine with him accepting arbitration; there isn’t any chance they pass on offering it
I’m going to disagree with you on this one. I definitely think the Jays, Angels, as well as many others would definitely consider Ortiz on a 2 year deal if the price was right. Sure, the Sox will be fine paying him for just a year, but it will be significantly more than he would probably get in the open market. Ortiz is aware of this too. And with his usual candidness, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear Ortiz say he took advantage of the Red Sox situation. I guess the real question is how productive will he really be in 2012.
i’m saying that if they had a choice, every team would prefer him on a one-year deal. he can only do one thing and the older he gets the less likely he is to be able to do that thing well. every team know this and so does he. that’s why he wants security (multiple years) and they want to limit risk (one year)
1/$14M >>> 2/$20 or more
even if you imagine it would be a tough call in another scenario, the potential for draft compensation makes it an easy decision here
The only way the Jays will touch a player is if no compensation needs to be issued. It all boils down to the CBA and if type B no longer applies, there will be many teams declining arbitration and letting players walk. Teams only offer arbitration to players they want to keep, if they decline, they benefit through another draft pick. Without that system in place, there will be many players refused arbitration and allowed to become free agents. Once they are free agents, teams can then sign them for whatever they want, because draft picks are no longer in the equation. If Toronto loses the type B compensation from their players, the team isn’t going to give up one of their other picks for a 38 year old designated hitter. That will probably play out for other teams too, making many type A players less attractive to many teams. Some free agents that had interest shown could be left standing at the altar on April 1st without a team to play for, all because teams won’t give up the first rounder. Why would they, without the added sandwich picks coming their way to compensate for it?
I think you’d be the only one not surprised… the Red Sox would be more than satisfied with paying an additional ~$4M to retain Ortiz’s bat without having to take on the risk of a multiyear contract, especially with Youkilis’s health becoming more and more of an issue.
Why wouldn’t he give the Red Sox a chance to pay him more money than he was offered from another team? Especially since no team is going to do what the Phillies did with Papelbon with Ortiz (i.e., give him a contract that no other team is ever going to match) and the market for DHs is bad.
Are you sure?
Well if someone wants to, by all means give Ortiz a ridiculous contract. It would make Papelbon’s contract more reasonable. Ortiz is a 36 year old DH who can’t play any position, is slow, clogs the bases, is a terrible base runner & any year he could revert to what he was a few years ago when everyone was screaming for him to be benched.
I just don’t see the market for him. There’s always a team who will overpay for a player though, so who knows.
Some of the other teams might not want to be used as leverage. It could limit his market.
Curtis Granderson MVP!
Might as well get a head start on this one.
Does anyone else think that DiceK wouldn’t be better suited in the NL? I think Boston could get a really good prospect for DiceK and money. Anyone else? What about Huston Street and Todd Helton for DiceK & Lars??? Just thinking out loud.
I don’t think Dice will be successfully pitching until after the All Star break next year as he recovers from TJ surgery so he’s not really worth much.
Yeah I did forget a little about the hurt part…but in theory?
I don’t see the Rockies agreeing to your trade.
you are fired
No way!
“Just thinking out loud”
Perhaps a bit too loud.
Funny! But it got you to respond. winning!!!
I think he’s better suited for Japan.
At least Lackey goes on the mound, goes directly at hitters and gives it his best every time in the power house AL East.. I am wanting to see Lackey more than Matsuzaka, any day of the week in a Sox uniform and hope they find a way to “bury” Matsuzaka, long enough in the minors or rehab assignments until the 2012 season is over.
As to whether he would be more successful in the NL? You bet, long history of marginal pitchers of his ilk doing better. Vazquez, Lilly, Moyer.. Marginal pitchers can sometimes excel in the NL and Matsuzaka is the epitome of marginal.
I’m pretty resigned to the fact that Dave Sveum is practically already the manager. Would have liked Alomar a little better but he’s do.
Looks like the Redsox might take a serious look at Sizemore now that Reddick will be having wrist surgery and probably wont be back at 100% til the allstar break.
Right. Sizemore can show him where to sit when he’s on the DL…
Or they could just put Kalish in right field, who’s better than Reddick anyway.
If you are Ortiz, do you leave Boston for a couple million more, or say 1 more year from a team like “The indians”/any other team that has a chance to compete.
Although these days the Red Sox fall under that category…
yeah, that category is the disabled list. lol.