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Red Sox Rumors: Wakefield, Varitek, Trade Talks

By Luke Adams 2 | December 6, 2011 at 9:40pm CDT

We heard earlier this evening that David Ortiz plans to return to Boston next season, either through arbitration or a multiyear deal. Now let's check in on some other Red Sox news:

  • GM Ben Cherington's comments today suggest the Red Sox won't be bringing back Tim Wakefield and Jason Varitek, says Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe.
  • The Sox have talked to other clubs about Marco Scutaro and Jed Lowrie, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.
  • The Red Sox and White Sox met to discuss a possible Carlos Quentin trade, but there's no match at the moment, says Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe (on Twitter).
  • Boston has checked in on Brad Lidge, tweets Scott Lauber of the Boston Herald.
  • DeMarlo Hale, the club's bench coach for the last two seasons, won't be returning for 2012, writes ESPN Boston's Gordon Edes. Hale is expected to take a job in the Orioles' organization.
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72 Comments

  1. MeowMeow

    13 years ago

    Aw, come on, at least let Wake compete for a bullpen spot. Long relief or something.

    Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      13 years ago

      you don’t want bedard but you do want wakefield? why i oughta

      Reply
      • Ben_Cherington

        13 years ago

        You do realize that wakefield has a top 10 best knuckleball in the majors right?

        Reply
      • MeowMeow

        13 years ago

        If you don’t love Wakefield, you have no soul, numbers be damned!

        Reply
        • mainesox

          13 years ago

          I love Wakefield, I just love him somewhere else.

          Reply
          • Varitek'sMitt

            13 years ago

            My sentiments exactly

            Reply
        • mainesox

          13 years ago

          I love Wakefield, I just love him somewhere else.

          Reply
        • notsureifsrs

          13 years ago

          ^this. i still love him. i just think we should see other people

          Reply
          • Varitek'sMitt

            13 years ago

            ^Sorry kinda screwed up your response

            Reply
        • notsureifsrs

          13 years ago

          ^this. i still love him. i just think we should see other people

          Reply
  2. Shawn from New Hampshire

    13 years ago

    Brad Lidge?  god I hope thats a joke

    Reply
    • Redsoxn8tion

      13 years ago

      Guys, these are just rumors. I definitely don’t see Tex back, but Wake is a possibility.

      Reply
      • Redsoxn8tion

        13 years ago

        I meant Tek.

        Reply
  3. wholenewworld

    13 years ago

    Amazing that Tim Wakefield has a winning record and Matt Cain has a losing record.

    (Not a slam on Tim at all. Love his story. Hope he catches on somewhere.)

    Reply
    • User 4245925809

      13 years ago

      Amazing what the best offense in the game will do for a pitcher isn’t it, vs one of the most anemic ones?

      As for no Wake.. If Wake not returning is a “package” with for SURE Varitek being GONE for good.. Then I guess it is ok. Tek is of no use, while at least IMO Wake could have helped a little.

      Reply
  4. Pewis Lee Leach

    13 years ago

    Looks like Buck got his boy from Boston.

    Reply
  5. Ben_Cherington

    13 years ago

    Let’s play NAME THAT CREATURE!!

    Here is your clue:  RED SOX SUCK!! HAHA I HOPE THEY LOSE EVERY GAME!

    Is it:

    A: Preacher Creature
    B: Bleacher Creaturd
    C: Teacher Creature
    or
    D: Bleacher Creature

    Good Luck!

    Reply
  6. Phillies_Aces35

    13 years ago

    I know the Red Sox don’t want to pay money for a closer but I hope they’re not looking at Lidge as any more than a 7th/8th inning guy.

    Would love to see the Phillies make a run at Scutaro if they cannot get a deal done with J-Roll.

    Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      13 years ago

      who are you offering? i haven’t rosterbated in a good 20 minutes

      Reply
  7. Lunchbox45

    13 years ago

    What would the red sox like from the jays for scutaro?

    casey janssen will do, yes?

    Reply
    • Ben_Cherington

      13 years ago

      Joey Bats will do, yes?

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

        done.. we’re talking this guy right?

        Reply
        • Ben_Cherington

          13 years ago

          Thats the one!

          Reply
        • notsureifsrs

          13 years ago

          he’s stealing signs

          Reply
        • notsureifsrs

          13 years ago

          he’s stealing signs

          Reply
    • Mick_In_Ithaca

      13 years ago

      Wouldn’t mind having Scutaro back, but I wouldn’t want to lose Janssen. 

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

        2B > 7/8th inning reliever

        Reply
        • Mick_In_Ithaca

          13 years ago

          Jays need to improve pitching more than offense. I’d like them to keep the good pitchers they have. Janssen plus Santos might be a dandy combo at the back end of the pen. And Scutaro is 36. He’s not an everyday player at this point, although he’d be quite useful for 400 PAs or so. But for $6M?

          Maybe they’d take Litsch. Oh yeah.

          Reply
          • Lunchbox45

            13 years ago

            I’m sure theres a chicken, beer, jesse litsch joke out there some where

            Reply
    • commenter3346

      13 years ago

      A lot since the Jays are in the same division.

      I’d rather trade away Lowrie though. I like Scutaro a lot more than him.

      Reply
    • commenter3346

      13 years ago

      A lot since the Jays are in the same division.

      I’d rather trade away Lowrie though. I like Scutaro a lot more than him.

      Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

      I’m going to go with no, partially because as a 7th/8th inning reliever Janssen’s value is limited (plus he’s still a relative question mark) and partially because with the current market for SS/2B I think the Sox could probably do better.

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

        I cant think of anything else the sox would want

        hed be a nice 2B pick up for the jays though

        Reply
        • mainesox

          13 years ago

          Agreed, Scutaro would be a great fit for Toronto.

          What about Janssen plus a minor league pitcher (not a particularly highly rated one obviously)?  I don’t know enough about the Jays’ system to take a guess at who they might have who fits that bill though.

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          • Lunchbox45

            13 years ago

            its so tough because its a divisional rival.

            wish you guys would have let him go!

            Reply
          • cyberboo

            13 years ago

            The Jays aren’t trading Janssen.  He was the one bright spot in the whole bullpen last year and many saw him taking over the closers role.  Would Boston trade Bard for Scutero.  If the answer is no, you have your answer about Janssen. 

            Reply
  8. Nation15

    13 years ago

    Scutaro to Giants possibly?

    Reply
  9. JohnnyC

    13 years ago

    K-Rod is still out there…

    Reply
  10. EarlyMorningBoxscore

    13 years ago

    I’m now convinced that this off-season the Red Sox are not going to do much. I had some hope at possibly getting someone who I might be excited about. However, that seems less and less likely. 

    Reply
    • Phillies_Aces35

      13 years ago

      They don’t really have too. I also heard Gammons say they’re not going to go over the luxury tax for the third straight year and with Big Papi accepting arbitration, they’re not going to have flexibility.

      Reply
      • EarlyMorningBoxscore

        13 years ago

        I know they don’t have too. I just as fan wanted to see something especially on the pitching side of things. If they could work a deal for Andrew Bailey and maybe a decent starter I’d be okay. I don’t mind letting Reddick play in RF that idea has grown on me. 

        Reply
      • EarlyMorningBoxscore

        13 years ago

        I know they don’t have too. I just as fan wanted to see something especially on the pitching side of things. If they could work a deal for Andrew Bailey and maybe a decent starter I’d be okay. I don’t mind letting Reddick play in RF that idea has grown on me. 

        Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      13 years ago

      day 2 of the GM meetings, first week of december: towel thrown in

      atta boy

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

        sox should have a firesale

        do you realize the kind of prospects Ben would bring in after selling lester, pedroia, ellsbury and gonzalez?

        start the rebuild!!!

        Reply
        • mainesox

          13 years ago

          Pawtucket and Portland would be locks for the playoffs!!

          Reply
        • commenter3346

          13 years ago

          Those are probably the 4 untouchable players on the Red Sox roster. Especially Lester, Pedroia & Gonzalez (due to the fact that Ellsbury’s contract is up in 2 years & the probability he re-signs here is slim).

          Reply
          • Lunchbox45

            13 years ago

            I did not know that, thanks.

            Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      13 years ago

      day 2 of the GM meetings, first week of december: towel thrown in

      atta boy

      Reply
  11. bighiggy

    13 years ago

    would you take kyle mclellan and westbrook or schumaker for lowrie or scutaro?

    Reply
    • Ben_Cherington

      13 years ago

      NO, try again

      Reply
  12. bighiggy

    13 years ago

    would you take kyle mclellan and westbrook or schumaker for lowrie or scutaro?

    Reply
  13. Jwills

    13 years ago

    Lance Lynn and Schumaker for Scutaro seems good…..

    Reply
  14. dc21892

    13 years ago

    Damn, I wanted Boston to grab Quentin. Possibly Thornton as well. It would take a good quality package to get them, though.

    Reply
  15. User 4245925809

    13 years ago

    This will sound…Funny… But  Scuttaro ATM is actually one of the few decent bats on the Sox team. Lowrie, sure but now am pretty sure he is the one they will move with the sad news ortiz will more than likely accept arbitration and Avilles available to be the utility infielder.

    Ortiz, accepting arbitration hurts this team in multiple ways and helps in virtually none.

    Reply
  16. hawkny11

    13 years ago

    Wakefield and Veritek , combined, are 85 years old.
    Enough is enough!
    Retire men!

    Reply
  17. Jerry Case

    13 years ago

    Loyalty amoung major league players is dead….Now by no giving WAkefield a chance at long relief I say the ownership has the same lack of loyalty…WAkefield could have eaten up 120 or so middle innings this year for a measly million bucks…My loyalty has always been divided between The Sox & Cardinals…Maybe I can drop NESN this year & watch the Cardinals every night.

    Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

      Talk about a lack of loyalty, if you’re willing to stop being a fan of a team because they are cutting ties with a guy who isn’t good for anything more than mop up duty, then maybe you should quit talking and do it.

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

        Rays can use some more fans..

        I say you kick out all the dumb sox fans and sell them to tampa for shields

        Reply
        • mainesox

          13 years ago

          They all go down there for the winter anyway, so maybe we just don’t let them back in.

          Reply
        • User 4245925809

          13 years ago

          “Rays can use some more fans..”

          They could use another voice other than Dewayne Staats.. Take it from someone who lives in central Florida.. His whiney voice, horrific homerism.. he is about as bad as it gets and hard to see how they could attract anyone new. Even Kevin Kennedy (his booth-mate) gets tired of it sometimes and it is plainly obvious.

          Reply
    • NomarGarciaparra

      13 years ago

      Loyalty? At what point do we draw the line? If loyalty was limitless, Pedro would’ve retired in a Sox uniform…after his monsterous contract ended, during which he was injured for a significant amount of time. Nomar would’ve been in the same scenario.

      Reply
  18. StanleyHudson

    13 years ago

    Wonder who the Chi sox would want for Quentin.

    Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      13 years ago

      annoying that they talked to the white sox and it wasn’t about thornton. makes me think they have a bullpen plan i am not going to like

      Reply
    • commenter3346

      13 years ago

      Quentin has 1 year left on his contract, has injury problems, is poor defender and is expensive. No thank you.

      Reply
  19. Guest 5832

    13 years ago

    I love Wakefield, but for the team-sake, he has to go… 

    Tek -bye, bye

    Lavarnway at Catcher w/ Salty, Salty gone after the year, Lavarnway full-time

    Keep Scutaro/Youk infield

    Scutaro gone at end of year, bring up Iglesias
    Youk keep on until end of contract 100%, resign and later split time with Middlebrooks and DH

    For now – Reddick in RF – there is no one else worth the $$ to replace him, he is cheap and relatively productive, this free agent class is weak in OF

    GET PITCHING! GET PITCHING! GET PITCHING!

    Reply
  20. BoSox Fan 1950

    13 years ago

    Happy that David has accepted arbitration and will be back for at least one more year. Phew!
    Wakefield may pitch next year but it won’t be with the Red Sox.
    Varitek is done with being an active player here or anywhere. Hopefully he is offered a job within the Red Sox organization and eventually becomes a manager in the organization. Manager of the parent club? Dunno. Maybe. Some day. But first he has to pay his dues in the minors. Scutaro and Lowrie stay. One as the starting SS, the other as MLB’s premiere Utility man. If Lowrie is the SS, stays healthy and consistent at the plate as well as in the field, who knows? Maybe Iglesias becomes the trade bait chip. Methinks if Iglesias hasn’t been able to learn how to hit AAA pitching by now, he’s never going to hit major league pitching.
    And, IMHO, Reddick and Kalish can fight it out during Spring Training for Right Field. My money is on Reddick.

    Reply
  21. Varitek'sMitt

    13 years ago

    I like the idea of a trade for Quentin. The problem is, I’m looking at the rotation and even if Bard moved to the rotation that still only leaves us with four starters unless Ace moves into a full time starter role as well.

    Reply
  22. Varitek'sMitt

    13 years ago

    Lester, Beckett, Bucholz, ?, ?

    Reply

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