9:00am: The Mets won't shop either Davis or Duda aggressively, but they'll be open to the right deal for either player, Andy Martino of the New York Daily News reports (on Twitter).
8:26am: The Mets will consider trading Ike Davis as a way of addressing other needs this offseason, Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com reports. There’s no guarantee Davis will be moved, but it’s at least “a very plausible option,” Rubin writes.
The Mets are disappointed with Davis’ attitude toward coaching advice and they worry that he’s out too late after games, according to Rubin. Trading Davis would open up first base for Lucas Duda, who’s viewed as an inferior defender to Davis.
Davis, 25, has rebounded from a slow start to post a .223/.302/.444 batting line with 27 home runs in 529 plate appearances. The left-handed hitter will be first-time arbitration eligible as a super two player this coming offseason and he's under team control through 2016. The Indians, Rays, Red Sox and Marlins are among the teams that could be interested in first basemen this coming offseason.
Thinking the red sox would bid on him. Not much maybe from our bullpen? But id like tgat move
I still think the red sox & angels will deal in the offseason: wells + morales for Lackey + b & c level prospects.
I’m sorry… but any way of looking at that, I’m still certain the Red Sox lose.
Why would Boston want to get another useless big contract player in Wells and a DH only player in Morales? Lackey could still have some use to them if he can get major league hitters to miss bats, he could pitch around 200 innings, something they desperately need.
Agree even a broken Lackey is better then wells. Lackey comes out strong trying to prove himself and pitches well next yr.
Terrible deal for Boston.
If you believe the theory that the Red Sox have been removing their malcontents then I doubt they’d want to bring on Davis.
Like we need another guy who stays out late and doesn’t listen to a coach’s advice. Haven’t we had enough of these guys already?
Move aceves and maybe melancon for davis. Wasnt aware of Ikes off the issues. But 1st base control for a couple of yrs. 20 plus hr hittimg 5th.
1. Els
2. Pedy
3. Ortiz
4. Ross
5. Davis
6. Middlebrooks
7. Salty/Lavarnaway
8. Sweeny/Nava
9. Aviles/Ciriaco/iglesias
Rotation: Buch. Lester. Lackey. Morales. Doubrount
And when he hits a mere .223 like he has this year, we’re going to be missing Aceves and Melancon. I agree with getting rid of Aceves, but honestly it needs to be a smart and logical deal. We’re better off keeping Loney to a small deal and keeping our pitchers than to trade for a guy who might just hit .223 with lower homerun totals in the AL East.
Stats say the Atheltics and Rays are almost on par in 2012 concerning team stats, but the Rays have the lower record… why? They play in the AL East. When playing in the AL East, the same statistical regression will impede on Ike Davis’ play.
Question. What evidence is there of lower homerun totals in the AL East?
Better pitching. Like I said, the A’s and Ray’s are 1st and 2nd (Rays being 1st in pitching) in pitching, and almost tie in team BA, but because the Rays are in the AL East, the competition is tougher. With better pitching, less chances of homeruns.
Have you looked at some of the pitchers in the AL East? There is NOT better pitching in that division than any other division in baseball. Offenses are better and there are launching pads for ballparks. The AL East inflates HR totals.
Well he is young and not all young players regress. Tge chance he puts it together would be worth a look. And well melancon struggled in the move to the AL east and aceves clearly wants out. So if Mets are willing. Why not. Think it would be worth a shot. Like looney as well but his stats wont blow you away either. Davis is young and controlled for many years. Any sox 1st base prospects a yr away? None tgat im aware of
This is completely false. What you have done is commit an ecological fallacy, assumming aggregate data trends translates to the individual.
why would the Mets even consider accepting that?
If they dont want him and want controlled bullpen arms with clising experience. Why not
Scribes have the right idea in going after the Angel’s Trumbo and Morales to play LF & 1B, respecttively. And, also, signing Greinke
1. Ellsbury
2. Pedroia
3. Morales
4. Trumbo
5. Ortiz
6. Ross
7. Middlebrooks
8. Salty/Lavarnaway
9. Ciriaco/Iglesias
Rotation: Greinke/Buchholz/Lester/Lackey/Doubont/Morales
How do we get them is tge question.
Trumbo and morales??? I could see the halos trading morales possibly, but the only way trumbo is moving is for half your roster. the sox have nothing to offer the halos that would tempt them. unless your offering ellsbury or pedroia, maybe both. the reason is your talking about a guy who plays above avg defense in the of and at 1b, who will also hit over .300, 30-40+ hrs, and 110+ rbis giving the right situation. that is not moving for almost anything.
Can imagine a lot of interest. The Blue Jays for JP Arencibia?
I wouldn’t mind seeing the Pirates get him. Maybe Hanrahan or Grilli for Ike Davis? He’s a good young player but not a stud. Not sure if the Mets would rather just get prospects or cost controlled players though.
I’m thinking about the power potential if the Pirates have Jones, Davis, Alvarez, and Cutch all in the lineup and maybe add a catcher with some thump.
This actually would be an interesting trade to explore. Mets need a closer and Hanrahan is terribly underrated. I feel as if that can work for both parties. Maybe instead of Grilli how about Jared Hughes, or would that be to much?
This is something the rays might be interested in. Trade one of their starting pitchers (Hellickson would be my guy to trade. Cobb is a very similar pitcher to Hellickson, and I dont like the fact that Hellickson is a Boras agent and reigning ROY guy).
should trade one of those for a controllable catcher.
mets need offense, not pitching. particularly young, controllable outfielders.
As a Mets fan this seems silly to me. Why trade him now when he’s coming off a bad season? He has definitely rebounded, so at least let him play next year and trade him then to get more value.
This guy is a fan favorite though. I find it hard to believe they would trade him. It’s like they don’t want anyone to come to the games….the wilpons need to go
Not sure they will trade him. Fact is they have few tradeable assets and need to improve multiple positions C and the entire OF. It is smart to at least float him out there and see what you can get for him. If he can bring back a couple of good major league ready position prospects or a really good catcher you have to at least consider it.
Just pull the trigger on this one Sandy!
better call saul
Mets should hold on to Davis, obviously listening to the coaching staff was a terrible idea to start, he is one of the few guys who actually flashes potential of being a solid everyday player on a winning team. Mets have 3 guys like that, Davis, Wright, and Tejada. When he was listening to them, how bad was his hitting??? How bad does the entire team hit?? Mets coaching staff looks like a bunch of guys who do not have the toughness mentality. Rebelling against the coaches other than Collins is a great idea and more Mets players should do so. Maybe the bullpen should start doing the same. And why would you trade Davis to keep Duda who hasnt proven much other than being streaky?? Because he is nicer to the coaching staff???
Look at it realistically. He hasn’t had a great season yet, shows attitude problems, so probably isn’t going to net a decent haul.
If the Cubs were inclined to move the 2 years younger Rizzo? They could probably get at least as much (if not more) and nobody thinks Rizzo would return a huge haul by himself either.
Davis has had a better second half than David Wright.
Let’s not forget he had Valley Fever. The same medical condition that effectively ended Conor Jackson’s career, at least in the majors.
Too bad a full season matters than one half. I like Ike as much as the next guy but you’re overvaluing him based on stuff you don’t know anything about.
I only used Wright as a comparison.
But I sure as hell know that Davis is 2x the player than Duda.
If they trade Ike then Sandy Alderson no longer gets the benefit of the doubt from me. This guy is young, cheap, and a stellar defender with massive power. We need as many of Ike as we can find, not to trade away arguably the only proven power bat we have.
Here’s a novel idea: Release Jason Bay. Stop expecting the .130 hitting wonder to suddenly pull it together and put Duda in RF.
They have an issue with Davis’s attitude… yet they recently sent Duda to the MINORS because of his attitude.
Typical Mets. Replace a .250-.280/30/100 good defensive 1B with a .250/15-20/75 awful defensive everything player just to put a bandaid on a gunshot.
I’m pretty sure Ike Davis never hit .280, hit 30 home runs, or drove in 100 runs.
Duda should be in the AL as a DH.
Opening up a GREAT BIG HOLE (offensively and defensively) is not a good way to fill holes with minor role players that will not collectively come to equal even 1/2 of IKE’s contribution. Not even scratching the surface – off an admittedly bad year, he still will hit 30 HRs and lead the team in RBI’s. Once we lose Dickey and Wright, we will be far worse off than the Marlins.
I still think he can continue to build on what he has. A nice short swing built for power. Still only 25 don’t give’m up!
As a Mets fan, I will be way more upset if Ike is trading than Dickey or Wright. Let’s trade the only guys with legit power and good defense. Yeah, great idea!
No.
How about keeping ike davis, release bay, put duda in LF, trade for justin upton and sign his brother B.J and mike napoli.
Tejada ss
Murphy 2b
Wright 3b
Davis 1b
B.J upton rf
Duda lf
J. Upton cf
Napoli c
because napoli can’t hit the side of a barn right now and both Upton brothers are loose cannons who will surely fail in the blackhole that is known as the New York Mets franchise. Not to mention that Justin Upton will surely demand Zach Wheeler or something to that extent.
No I would want to trade Davis for AAA players, not major league players. Proven players like Upton(s) are expensive to acquire, either by trade or free agency. I think one of the concerns with Davis is even in his second half hot surge he didn’t really hit for average. Sort of an Adam Dunn type?
Why not throw in “sign Josh Hamilton” while you’re at it?
How about a trade with the Red Sox….
Wright and Davis to Boston
Middlebrook and Loney to New York
The Mets save big $$$$.
loney is a FA…
Ike Davis will probably be the best fit in O’s lineup. Reynold have $11m option for 2013, buyout at $500k(?). Camden Yard park will be Ike’s new “best friend,” especially hitting over the RF.
As a Mets fan I have absolutly no idea what we would even get in return for Duda. He doesnt offer anything in the feild or on the bases. Maybe a move to an AL team where he can DH would work, but I can’t imagine him netting the Mets anything valuable in return.
Everyone needs to calm down on this. If the Mets trade Davis its going to be to a team who overpays for him. He’s a 25 year old player that is cheap and under team control for another 4 years. An aquiring team, assuming it’s not San Diego or some other team with a pitcher’s park, could see an upside of 35-40 HR a year. Alderson knows this. He is not shopping him, he is just saying he’s available if someone wants him so bad that they are willing to give up 2-3 solid prospects. He’s probably not going but if he does it’s going to be a good haul. He has more trade value then anyone on the team (except maybe Jonathan Niese) so it makes sense to see what you can get for him
I can not beleive they would even consider trading Davis, he is the best power hitter they have. Trade Dillon Gee & jon Neisse fo the Twins for Winingham in the off season
Unless the Mets acquire a D’Arnuad-type, no way they should trade Ike. He is a player to build around.
Trumbo isn’t signed for 2013.
Preach on. Exactly what i was thinking
We had Gonzalez and he couldn’t hit many homeruns at Fenway… so I think that argument about left handers hitting homeruns is rather skeptical. The atmosphere at Fenway is a lot harder than other stadiums and being in the AL East it’s tougher.
I have no problem with someone hitting .230 and hitting 40 to 45 homeruns, but hitting .200 and hitting only 20 homeruns a year doesn’t get the job done offensively. Even then, I’d consider average over homeruns.
If we did do this though, it wouldn’t be the end of the world judging by our current roster. It just wouldn’t make us monumentally better either.
Mets need alot. Yes offense but with a park that size why not try it tge SF giants way. Starters and bullpen. Aceves and melancon could help with both.