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Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Wieters is asking for a bit much. I am hoping the O’s can settle this amicably!
Seven Million sounds good to me, I mean Showalter uses him almost for every game and even if he gets an off day here and there, he was usually brought in as a pinch hitter or to catch if there were extra innings to play.
pastamania
I hope Wieters wins. Better he pockets that extra $2.25 mil than Peter Angelos.
Jim Low
I agree somewhat but the guy did have a terrible year offensively with career lows in almost every way and if you want to go by the “war” stat his war dropped by over 3 to only a 0.4 this season
atlbraves312
couldn’t sign Heyward over $300K? okay…
chris hines
Seriously, how do you let that go to arbitration hearings when you are dealing with Freeman and Kimbrel for much bigger gaps. You’d think they’d want to limit the amoubt of players going to hearings as much as possible.
oldhaus
You limit hearings by winning everyone of them and frightening off future attempts. That’s why reputation as tough in arb is even more important than the 300K, but the money isn’t nothing either .
chris hines
You also burn bridges by taking two of the rising star players you need for future success running them down in arbitration hearings. Sometimes you have no choice, The Braves and Heyward however are 300K apart, that should never have made it to this point.
rundmc1981
Braves FO love going to arbitration. There’s a Panera Bread right next door, as opposed to anything being around Turner Field.
2017 can’t come soon enough.
oleosmirf 2
They can settle at any point before or during arbitration, which they assuredly will.
chris hines
They can except for “We have an organization philosophy of the filing date is our last date to negotiate prior to a hearing,” said Wren. “We’re done.”
SDOurTeamOurTown
They said they won’t – “not their policy” (short sighted)
zurr en arrh
I rubbed my eyes to make sure that I wasn’t seeing things
Rally Weimaraner
The Kimbrel hearing is going to be interesting, 9 MM v 6.5 MM will make a big difference in the end. If Kimbrel makes 9 MM his first year, he will be making 15-20 MM by year 3. No team should pay that much for a closer, even if hes the best around!
rundmc1981
That’s why we need to trade him at the end of the 2014 season.
bernbabybern
To the Yankees. 🙂
chris hines
No thanks.
LazerTown
While I’d love to have him, I doubt they want to meet the brave’s asking price, and then pay the price he will cost.
rundmc1981
Yeah, I can’t see that happening. That’s also providing Robertson doesn’t take the job, though Kimbrel would be an upgrade. I see SEA, ARZ, BOS, TEX having the depth and interest to do it, though that also depends on their current closers not being as successful.
The_Unnatural
There is zero chance the M’s trade for him. If there’s one thing Jack Zduriencik has been able to do as a GM, it’s find decent closers on the cheap. His most expensive closer was League at $5MM. Now they have Danny Farquhar, whose saber numbers were almost as good as Kimbrel, and he makes league minimum.
rundmc1981
Agreed. I highly doubt SEA would be in a position to go after a star closer considering the pieces they need, but they do have the pieces and money available.
vtadave
Rêminds me as a dodgers fan of the Gagne filing. $5M vs. $8M. Team won.
LazerTown
Right. Kimbrel is going to cash in big. Arbitrators love saves, so, and era. He is a fantastic closer, but this process is going to way overvalue him.
not_brooks
$3.75MM between Masterson and the Indians is the biggest gap.
Wieters asking for a $3.25MM raise after a career worst season at the plate further cements that he’s not going to be an Oriole past 2015.
LazerTown
They take into account the past 2 seasons. Just because he was career worst doesn’t mean he shouldn’t get raise.
not_brooks
Yep, and Wieters’ WAR has dropped from 4.6 to 3.9 to 2.4 from 2011 to 2013.
Didn’t say he shouldn’t get a raise. Just that he shouldn’t get a $3.25MM raise.
RyÅnWKrol
There’s few players there (Kimbrel, Fister, Masterson, Bailey, Samardzija) who have quite a gap between their figures and their team’s figures.
C. McCarthy
Even if Fister wins, the Nats win at that price… going to miss him in Detroit!
Danny Phillips
They will likely settle around 7 MM
LazerTown
I agree. That trade really didn’t make sense to me.
SDOurTeamOurTown
Braves … get real! Why create bitterness for .2 mil with a very nice young outfielder?
c
Because their offer was already nearly a million more than he was projected to earn in arbitration?? Seems to me like the Braves came up plenty and Heyward’s agent was unwilling to budge.
-C
ChicksDigTheLongBaII
If Heyward is the kind of player who is going to be ‘bitter’ over $300,00 relative to the hundred-plus million bucks he’s going to make in his career, I’d just as soon Atlanta let him walk in 2016 and take the draft pick. Of course, I might feel different if Mr. Glass hadn’t already spent 20% of his career on the disabled list…
Ben Zautner
Why did Chapman file? I thought he signed a six-year deal out of Cuba back in 2010…
c
It was in the contract. Per Cot’s:
“if Chapman qualifies for arbitration after 2013, $3M is converted to a bonus and he becomes arbitration-eligible”
-C
Ben Zautner
So meow he’s arbitration eligible for the next three seasons?
c
Pretty much. He could choose to use the $5M player option in 2015, but I think it’s a foregone conclusion he’ll best that in arbitration. He’d have to have a season-ending injury to not make more in arbitration in 2015 than he will in 2014.
-C
bobbleheadguru
Did Avila ask his dad for advice on his arbitration number? Does his dad literally “put on a different hat” when talking to Alex?
BaMafromLa
Give AJ Ellis the 4.6 mil, he definitely deserves it.
johnsilver
The one I have been looking for last few days.. Andrew Miller, filed for 2.15m and Boston has countered at 1.55m.
Boston hasn’t had a player case heard in ages, so they probably will come to terms beforehand. Would like to see a 3/9m deal even, or 2/6m and another 3,maybe 3.5m team option.
Patrick Tuck
I don’t see why everyone is blaming the Braves organization for not budging for Heyward. No one is making it aware that he wouldn’t just go down 300k and it could have easily been settled. It’s not just the Braves being stingy.