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jury_rigger
Go Braves
ztoa
How are you glove-first if you belt the 5th most HRs at your position? Granted his BA and OBP resembled Freddy Galvis, but at least he has pop in his bat.
NL_East_Rivalry
With a glove like that you will always be a glove first player.
It will be very interesting seeing how he ages. I can see him getting 20 HR’s a year but his BA is likely only to grow a little.
LazerTown
Because his glove is the only special quality he has. His offense isn’t that good, but because of his glove it makes him great.
ztoa
When I think of glove-first guys I think of anemic career HR totals.
LazerTown
HR aren’t whole part of offense. They are valuable, but simmons is a glove first. Take away his glove and he isn’t an everyday guy, but with it he is elite.
ztoa
If you can hit HRs they find a place to put you on the field. I don’t expect him to get more than 25 in his career but, still it’s basically a fact that they’ll find somewhere for you to play if you can hit around 20 HRs. Minus the extension though. If can increase his OBP his SB opps go up, and he could put together double digit HRs & SBs and then you’d be saying he’s all around.
Kitty Cat Puppy Paws
8 or 9 of those barely got over the fence, though. he’s not all of a sudden crushing bombs, he’s simply uppercut his swing, increased his fly ball rate, and saw his average dip. more balls in the air meant more balls were able to slightly edge over the fence. that also had something to do with his low babip, and therefore his low avg. if he’s going to be a better hiter, he needs to level out his swing and hit more line drives. his average will go up and the hr numbers will go back to what we were expecting before last season. i wouldnt expect more than around 10 hrs a year, which is still a nice total.
Lennie Briscoe
If Keith Law is praising Simmons’ deal, then it was probably a pretty good deal considering he rarely gives his stamp of approval to anything the Braves do.
Bob Bunker
Pretty solid extension my only concern is they didn’t take into account he had another year of pre-arb and three years of arbitration which due to arbitration not paying defense very much was unlikely to have them break the bank. Assuming he didn’t get Super 2 status he would make a million over the next two years, 6 million first arb, 9 million, 12 million for a combined 28 million over 5 years meaning the two free agent years are 15 million apiece which is pretty high when Free Agency hasn’t shown to pay for defense as much and Hanley Ramirez makes only 16 million now.
NL_East_Rivalry
You have to take into account, which seemingly is what the Braves are banking on, future salary projections.
Also Braves expect his offense to improve as he ages and matures. I wouldn’t expect a drastic change, however.
Bob Bunker
I just feel like with their extensions other than Kimbrel they didn’t really get surplus value but just guaranteed the player their abitration salaries and gave them extra money on top of that in exchange for paying fair FA value for a year or 2. I understand the concept but I think an extension that covers pre-arb or arbitration years need to be better for the team since they are still taking a big risk.
2017 the Braves have 65 million committed to 5 players now with Justin Upton, Jayson Heyward, Mike Minor, Kris Medlen, Beachy, most of the bullpne, and Chris Johnson not signed. Just seems like the team might be top heavy unless they increase payroll to 130 million rather than the 90 the team has had in the past.
NL_East_Rivalry
You are exactly right. They made the deal at their expected prices for two reasons. 1. To get those extra FA years in their prime and 2. To get a discount on inflation or changes in value.
Second note, they’ve stated that their payroll will increase as they get closer to opening up the new stadium in 2017.
Austin A.
I love all these great deals for Atlanta. I feel ole all these players will live up to their expectations. But if you were to pick someone to be a bust from the four long term extensions (excluding Heyward), who would it be? I say best chance of being a bust is Teheran, then Simmons, then Kimbrel, then Freeman.
NickGranite
You have to go with pitchers as the most likely busts, just extreme volatility considering arm injuries. What can you do? You need pitchers.
Bob Bunker
I think I would go Freeman, Kimbrel, Teheran, then Simmons.
Freeman has the biggest deal and is coming off a year with an unsustainable BABIP and plays a position where his bat is not amazing and his defense is sub par.
Kimbrel is a dominant closer but still a pretty big deal and just one injury or a couple ticks lost in velocity and all that value goes down the drain.
Teheran looks like the real deal and is the least value but pitchers are always volatile.
Simmons has such a crazy floor due to his defensive value that by WAR there is almost no way he isn’t worth his contract. Add power potential shown or any upgrade with the bat and I don’t see how it could be a bust. Now whether or not it was necessary given he had two pre-arb years, and three arb years left and defense hasn’t been proven to lead to big Arb raises is another question.