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Ervin Santana Rumors: Saturday

By charliewilmoth | March 8, 2014 at 10:54am CDT

11:04am: The Rockies will not sign Santana, Troy Renck of the Denver Post tweets.

10:53am: The Blue Jays are "optimistic" about landing Santana, although they have not yet reached an agreement with him, FOX Sports' Jon Morosi tweets.

9:08am: The Blue Jays are willing to offer a deal in the $14MM range with no incentives, Heyman writes. The Orioles may be a bit behind the Blue Jays. The Rockies, meanwhile, may be out of the bidding, as Heyman tweets.

8:47am: Santana is currently negotiating a deal near one year and $14MM with the Blue Jays, Orioles and one National League team, possibly the Rockies, CBS Sports' Jon Heyman writes. Of those teams, the Jays and Orioles are the most likely to get Santana, who could pick a new team "in the next day or two."

8:05am: Ervin Santana will sign a one-year, $14MM contract with an AL club, Dionisio Soldevila of ESPN Deportes tweets. That team is not the Orioles, Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com tweets. The Royals have also recently indicated that they are no longer pursuing Santana.

Last night, it was reported that Santana had begun looking for a one-year deal, amidst further reports about changes in his representation. AL clubs recently connected to Santana have included the Mariners, Rangers and Blue Jays.

$14MM would, of course, be very similar to the $14.1MM qualifying offer Santana rejected from the Royals. A $14MM deal would be a very disappointing result for a 31-year-old pitcher coming off a 3.24 ERA with 6.9 K/9 and 2/2 BB.9 in 211 innings. But Nelson Cruz's deal with the Orioles demonstrates what a severe effect the qualifying offer has had in depressing the salaries of certain free agents.

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  1. Tom 20

    11 years ago

    $14 million seems a little out of the Orioles and Jays ranges.

    Reply
    • Guest 3743

      11 years ago

      I disagree. $14 is exactly where the Jays would be.

      Reply
      • Torontopoly

        11 years ago

        $14MM is the QO they didn’t make to Josh Johnson. Seeing as they probably banked on having to make that at the start of last year, I don’t see how $14MM isn’t in the budget for a #3-4 SP.

        Reply
    • Tekoa Hook

      11 years ago

      Jays are loaded just cheapskates, which I have to admire in a way.

      Reply
      • Tom 20

        11 years ago

        True. Orioles have been that way too up until about 4 weeks ago…

        Reply
      • Runtime

        11 years ago

        The owners are nasty loaded. Rogers Communication made $464M in Q3 last year…

        That’s just one quarter.

        Reply
    • Roy-Z

      11 years ago

      Honestly I don’t think $14M is out of anyone’s price range anymore. There is so much money in MLB.

      Reply
    • JamieFC

      11 years ago

      You know Buehrle is making $18 million this year, right?

      Reply
  2. Runtime

    11 years ago

    Blue Jays.

    Reply
  3. Grey Dread

    11 years ago

    Gotta be Texas.

    Reply
  4. Tigers72

    11 years ago

    Now I’m not saying I want this but Tigers were connected to him and they might want him on a 1 year deal so they can trade Porcello for a left fielder.

    Reply
    • bobbleheadguru

      11 years ago

      No need to panic about a left fielder!

      Porcello is very valuable. Why trade him and then pay more for an older, likely inferior pitcher?

      Reply
  5. Bill hagy

    11 years ago

    Rangers or Mariners. Ain’t Baltimore at that price.

    Reply
    • section 34

      11 years ago

      Hey Bill, how’s the afterlife? We should meet there.

      Reply
  6. jury_rigger

    11 years ago

    White Sox

    Reply
  7. Dock_Elvis

    11 years ago

    Royals

    Reply
    • jury_rigger

      11 years ago

      I’ll take that bet. It’s not them for sure.

      Reply
      • Dock_Elvis

        11 years ago

        White Sox aren’t giving up the draft pick

        Reply
        • jury_rigger

          11 years ago

          Haha I agree, I just got tired of seeing the same responses over and over.

          Reply
          • Dock_Elvis

            11 years ago

            Read the Sox don’t give up a pick…so they could collect compensation.

            Reply
  8. Bill hagy

    11 years ago

    Money is on Texas.

    Reply
  9. Ryan 36

    11 years ago

    Indians come in for the kill and get compensation out of him next year.

    Reply
  10. John_Ginder

    11 years ago

    I am going to say the Houston Astros

    Reply
  11. orangeoctober

    11 years ago

    Maybe Texas. Or maybe Orioles decided to go balls out and spend $14 million.

    Reply
  12. Mo Vaughn

    11 years ago

    Gotta go with the Mariners on this, they need starting pitching, and they’ve been connected to him.

    Reply
    • Adam Bomb

      11 years ago

      Loved you in Boston Mo. How’s cousin Greg doing?

      Reply
      • Mo Vaughn

        11 years ago

        Oh he’s doing good, just enjoying watching Cory play ball.

        Reply
        • Adam Bomb

          11 years ago

          They grow up so fast!

          Reply
          • Mo Vaughn

            11 years ago

            That they do.

            Reply
  13. Harrison D.

    11 years ago

    Hopefully it’s the Royals. I’d like to see them have a decent year if for no other reason than it would probably keep Dayton Moore in power there at least a little longer and the O’s might be able to fleece him on another trade like the Valencia-for-Lough deal somewhere down the line lol.

    Reply
    • Tom 20

      11 years ago

      I like your thinking! Unfortunately Moore said he’s not signing Santana

      Reply
      • Dock_Elvis

        11 years ago

        Yes…and GMs never use the media as a ploy. GMDM knows they need a 2 starter

        Reply
    • oct27

      11 years ago

      Wow. You sure are excited about David Lough.
      Solid player. But he’s a 4th OF.

      Reply
  14. jammin502

    11 years ago

    Somebody is going to give up a draft pick for only a 1 year deal?

    Reply
    • Strugz

      11 years ago

      Probably someone that is either protected or has already given up a draft pick.

      Reply
    • Dock_Elvis

      11 years ago

      One year of Santana might be better odds than a #3 pick developing

      Reply
    • Alex Grady

      11 years ago

      They can get the pick back if he pitches well enough to be worth a QO next year. But yes.

      Reply
  15. Dock_Elvis

    11 years ago

    One year deal opens it up a bit…Seattle maybe. Just the fact that its the QO makes me think it’s KC… they give up nothing

    Reply
    • Tom 20

      11 years ago

      Or a team that gave up the pick already (Orioles) or a team that has it protected (White Sox, Jays)

      Reply
      • Dock_Elvis

        11 years ago

        If I’m Kc I offer a bit more just to keep him away from Detroit and Cleveland

        Reply
    • John_Ginder

      11 years ago

      I was just about to say it. They will the pitcher they want for one year and not have to give up a pick.

      Reply
  16. Vipul Koul 2

    11 years ago

    not yankees please for the love of god not yankees!!!!!!

    Reply
  17. MadmanTX 2

    11 years ago

    Doubting Texas after they just signed Saunders unless they feel that Ogando won’t be used in the rotation at all and they’re still short a starter.

    Reply
  18. Torontopoly

    11 years ago

    My money is on the Blue Jays. They didn’t make the QO of $14MM to Josh Johnson. They were likely thinking (hoping) at the beginning of last season that they would have to spend that money on him so I can’t see how it isn’t already in the budget. Aside from this you have Ervin’s connections to players already on the team and the fact that he’s stated he wants to go to a team with offensive upside. It all seems to fit. Oh yea and the fact that Jays’ fans are pretty livid at the lack of moves this off-season.

    Reply
  19. DarthMurph

    11 years ago

    This is a no brainer for the Jays. Antholopolous has got to be thinking that his job is going to be on the line if they finish below .500 again. With Santana, this team should be able to contend if they can stay on the field.

    Reply
  20. Tim Williams

    11 years ago

    Looks like it is the Blue Jays.

    Reply
  21. orangeoctober

    11 years ago

    I’d be surprised if its the orioles. Kubatko is usually pretty on point.

    Reply
  22. Tigers72

    11 years ago

    I don’t want to do it and I think the Tigers should extend Porcello because I think he is going to have a breakout year with the defense and the development of his curve. I was just saying there is a possibility. I think the tigers should trade one of R Cabrera/Holaday/Mcann and some other prospects for De Aza.

    Reply
  23. Harrison D.

    11 years ago

    On most teams, that’s probably true.

    But the Orioles get above-average offensive production at SS, CF, and C, which can allow them to carry a glove-first corner OF. And his stellar defense will be worth its weight in gold this year even if he only hits something like .270/.310/.390.

    Reply
  24. Dock_Elvis

    11 years ago

    Looks like the Rockies are dodging a bullet.

    Reply
    • Seamaholic

      11 years ago

      No such thing on a one year deal. One year deals are by definition good, worst case scenario the owner loses a bit of profit but it doesn’t affect other player moves at all.

      Reply
      • Dock_Elvis

        11 years ago

        Rockies pick protected? I just don’t see the point in wasting a pick on a pitcher, especially one prone to long balls…and not when it looks like you might be looking up at every team in the division… and the pitcher won’t likely increase attendance

        Reply
        • Seamaholic

          11 years ago

          Gotta get better no matter where you sit in the (projected) standings. Rox have four good starters; Santana would push someone like Chatwood to the 5th spot, giving them one of the best rotations in the NL if everyone’s healthy.

          Reply
          • Dock_Elvis

            11 years ago

            True…I agree…but I’m not sure they even have more than the 4th best rotation in the division. They added Brett Anderson..who can’t stay healthy because of his landing mechanics. . I actually think SD will surprise in the west

            Reply
          • Dock_Elvis

            11 years ago

            True…I agree…but I’m not sure they even have more than the 4th best rotation in the division. They added Brett Anderson..who can’t stay healthy because of his landing mechanics. . I actually think SD will surprise in the west

            Reply
  25. BROC

    11 years ago

    Toronto Blue Jays!

    Reply
  26. Jared306

    11 years ago

    Say the Bluejays pick up Santana, they would give up their 2nd round pick, however, if he gets another QO and somebody gives Santana a deal, doesn’t the Bluejays actually get a 1st round pick back, an upgraded pick from before?

    Reply
    • JoeyBats13

      11 years ago

      Yes.

      Reply
      • Jared306

        11 years ago

        No brainer decision.

        Reply
  27. John Murray

    11 years ago

    If Santana only costs a year, why the Royals don’t just go for it and sign him is beyond me. With Shields scheduled to be a FA and the Royals unlikely to be able to afford him – why not go all in for 2014? Makes very little sense to me….

    Reply
    • GD

      11 years ago

      Especially considering KC just lost one of their starters to TJ surgery. I think it’s a no brainer for KC at this point. THey should be all in on a 1yr deal with this.

      Reply
      • John Murray

        11 years ago

        Exactly. With Hochevar down, signing Santana would let them comfortably push Davis back to the pen.

        Reply
  28. George Vander Buist

    11 years ago

    From this it sounds like the Blue Jays. But where is Seattle – that’s where I would have put my bet

    Reply
  29. Bobby A

    11 years ago

    Anthopolous won’t sign him, that just the way AA is, he has faith in morrow, happ, and hutchinson. Dont get your hopes up Jays fans, we’ve all been through dissapointment throughout the offseason. Oh and btw ryan goins is not mlb caliber.

    Pce out boys

    Reply
    • TO647

      11 years ago

      Happ getting hurt might make AA change his mind.

      Reply
    • Runtime

      11 years ago

      I love the cheap shot at the end.

      Reply
      • R_Stantz

        11 years ago

        is that really a cheap shot? virtually everybody outside the Jays organization doesn’t see Ryan Goins as a MLB regular.

        Reply
    • Torontopoly

      11 years ago

      Happ is in bed like a senior citizen by doctor’s order.

      Reply
  30. Matt Mccarron 2

    11 years ago

    Orioles have already given up their 1st and 2nd round pick. Maybe teams don’t value picks after that.

    Reply
    • Dock_Elvis

      11 years ago

      Teams just can’t get in the habit of giving up #1&2 picks very often..that killed the Angel system

      Reply
      • Matt Mccarron 2

        11 years ago

        Its just 1 year and its already gone. Giving up ur 3rd round pick isn’t valued.

        Reply
  31. Quikmix

    11 years ago

    If a team knew which Santana it was signing, this might be easier. The guy has had some real highs and lows.

    Reply
  32. SpfldCynic

    11 years ago

    This article mentions the compensation pick pushing his value down. It doesn’t mention the fears about his elbow, which have been widely reported. It also doesn’t mention apparent dissent with his agents, including a reported split. Both those issues very likely played more heavily into his getting a 1 year deal than the compensation.

    Reply
    • DarthMurph

      11 years ago

      Or his desire to wait out the market until a couple weeks into Spring Training.

      Reply
  33. Bryan E.

    11 years ago

    I can’t understand why a team such as the White Sox wouldn’t give up their second round pick for one year of this guy when they’d likely end up with a compensation pick after next year if he walked.

    Reply
  34. trenigro

    11 years ago

    So the M’s are going into the season with a rotation of King Felix, James Paxton, Erasmo Ramirez, Scott Baker, and Randy Wolf/Blake Beavan?… Why did we spend $240M on Robinson Cano again?

    Reply
    • JaysFan1996

      11 years ago

      because your GM is trying to save his job

      Reply

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