Veteran Ryan Doumit, who played last year for the Braves, “considers his playing career over,” according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (via Twitter). The 34-year-old switch hitter logged 166 plate appearances last year in Atlanta, slashing just .197/.235/.318. He has had many more productive seasons in his decade in the big leagues, of course, and owns a lifetime .264/.324/.432 batting line. Doumit also spent significant time with the Pirates and Twins after being drafted in the second round of the 1999 amateur draft by Pittsburgh. While it appears that Doumit will not look to make a return to the bigs, the wording of the report suggests that he is not yet prepared to make an official retirement.
Here are some NL East Notes:
- The Marlins’ interest in Rafael Soriano is tied closely to his cost, according to a Twitter report from Ken Rosenthal and Jon Morosi of FOX Sports. As things stand, Miami is only willing to bite if it can add him “at a low price,” per the report. It is not terribly surprising to learn that the Fish are not prepared to break the bank at this stage for the veteran righty; as the initial reports of interest suggested, the club is looking at all options to deal with its late-inning relief woes.
- Mets GM Sandy Alderson says he is not currently interested in adding a shortstop,Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News reports. “Nothing has changed,” said Alderson of the team’s current daily deployment of Wilmer Flores. That is not terribly surprising given the timing, of course — to say nothing of the fact that Alderson would not be likely to broadcast any interest he did have — but should at least function to curb any immediate speculation about the possibility of a Troy Tulowitzki blockbuster.
Given Doumit’s track record, the scarcity of good catchers on the market last winter, and the fact that he’s only 34 years old, I’m surprised nobody at least tossed a minor league deal his way.
Doumit wasn’t much behind the dish defensively, but he saw some time in left. He had his moments. I’m guessing he just decided not to continue. I can appreciate a guy not playing out years in AAA.
Yeah, I really liked how the Twins used Doumit as a bench guy; switch-hitter with power, can DH, play a bit of catcher, corner outfield, and first base. He was never good anywhere defensively but his bat, versatility, and cost made up for that. The Braves used him to pinch-hit almost exclusively and that was a rather big role change, which I think had more to do with his slash line last season than his age. He would not have been a bad bench piece to check-out out of spring training, especially for an AL club, and as you say on a minor league deal.
He can’t catch
Alderson’s quote is somewhat vague.
Jeff’s commentary probably applies to this situation.
I would characterize it as highly unlikely that the Mets don’t have interest in a Tulo deal on some level.
I can’t see the Mets having serious interest in Tulo, too much money and too many injuries. They are experiencing the same thing with david wright.
They have interest in every single available SS who could improve upon their current SS situation. That doesn’t mean Sandy’s lying when he says there’s no move in the immediate future, since the team really should give Flores a longer leash.
I agree with you paqza.
Flores has not been horrible overall, he has made a few errors in big spots that have obviously stood out as a result.
They’re giving Flores this long leash as they have no other real alternative. Their best option is in AA at the moment.
(1) Man the Marlins seem to be giving up on Cishek awfully quickly, unless there’s something physically wrong with him, in which case he should just go on the DL.
(2) Flores’s play should not be a reason Alderson looks to upgrade the Mets’ SS position. His fielding has not been great but I would not call it dreadful, and his bat has been more than adequate. Don’t give up on young players with potential after a month. Besides, Tulo’s not worth anywhere near the enormous amount of money he’s due in light of his injury history, especially if the Mets are going to have to give up a player of consequence to get him.
Tolo is not worth it. He is a player who always gets injured and who in a couple of years will be a third baseman. I think the person who makes sense and one who would add speed in the line up is Jose Reyes. The blue Jays need picthing and the Mets have it. I wouldn’t trade any of the top prospects but I would include Montero, Nise, and two B+ level prospects.
Hah!
So you dont like tulo because he is injury prone and yet you want jose reyes? Btw, the jays only want someone that will help them this year, not prospects.
I don’t like Tolos 24 million for the next 7 years. He is a guy who is a future third baseman at best and at worst a DH. Also, since the mets have pitching and since teams like the Nats, Cardinals, are rich in picthing it means there will be lots of 3-2 games therefore you don’t need a guy who either hits a home run, or strikes out. The mets need a guy who can hit at the top of the lineup who has a goI’d glove, and who can work the count and steal bases. The only other guys are Reyes, Segura.
Not sure where you got Tulo’s contract numbers from but it’s 20M each for next 3 years then drops to 14 in last 2
By then he would be a 33 year old who will have to move to third base. Third base is already taken so where are you putting him?
Who says he has to move? Or that Wright’s shoulder allows him to stay at 3rd?
When you present opinions it is better to not state incorrect facts
Narrative is harder to build with facts.
Say whatever you want it’s your opinion.
Is that your approach?
I don’t have a mathematical approach I go to Met games almost every week and although this team isn’t hitting they don’t need another home run or bust guy. They need speed.
I think the Mets need productive hitters. Tulowitzki is super productive, and becomes even more valuable when you consider how much better he is at hitting relative to his peers at shortstop.
The older, higher paid, and defensively inferior Reyes?
Tulos defense is fine, im not sure why you think he will be suddenly moved to another position? Hes more than serviceable. With his bat and demanding position, he could arguably be one of the best players in the game if healthy, which validates his salary. Are you also implying jose reyes is good defensively?
The Mets need speed on this line up not a guy who strikes out all the team. Look at how the Royals are built.
The royals are built around their pitching mostly.
So when Hosmer kept striking out who did they have running the base paths aggressively. That’s right guys like Cain, Dyson, Escobar
Speed is a great thing to have, but you have to realize the royals have made the playoffs once in how long?
You proved my point. if the blue Jays aren’t in contention before the trading deadline boy you could trade all those guys that you have for some good prospects hence the Astors, and Mets.
Reyes is currently in the most expensive portion of his back-loaded deal. Wouldn’t mind him back, but that’s a steep price.
I just don’t like the idea of the Mets being handcuffed by his contract. I think the whole reason Sandy hasn’t spent a whole lot of money or given a long-term contract is because he’s getting ready to extend the young guys like Harvey, Duda, d’Arnaud, and eventually deGrom, Wheeler, and hopefully the prospects. If the Rockies can eat some salary I would give them Matz, Plawecki, Dom Smith, and either Niese/Gee or a pitching prospect like Fulmer or Molina.
They would want DeGroom at the top of that deal.
Sad to see Doumit go out like that. Surprised the DBacks didn’t take a chance.
As much as this hurt to say …… Wilmer Flores has been about league average according to Fangraphs. His defense is slightly above average. There is that.
…. and very close to Tulo in 2015
I wouldn’t go more then a Niese, Montero, KP, Dom Smith and Tejada package for him. And the Rockies would probably turn it down
I am not saying that the team must get him, but your arguments against doing so are flawed
They would laugh and hang up the phone. Nise, Montero won’t get you tolo. You would have to offer DeGroom, and Synderguaard
The cost that the Rockies insist upon is why he doesn’t become a Met should be the reason.
Not that there may be a problem in 3 years with where to play people. Or that two other SS with less pedigree than Tulo offer something else. (BTW Granderson’s OBP is better than both Reyes and Segura)
You don’t make a deal just because of the name. Reyes has been injured, Segura is on a bad team.
So therefore this argument becomes mute. I agree with Alderson go get Addison Russell, or Javier Baez. I would never give up a prospect in the likes of Matz, Synderguaard for a guy whom won’t be playing short stop in three years. Look at the history of players who started playing short stop and by 31,32 moved to short hence Hanely.
Segura a good SS, only has a .306 OBP and has only batted lead off 18 out of the 33 games so far for that bad team. That should be a telling statistic. His cost in prospects would be similar to that of Tulo.
Reyes is older than Tulo, and has played much worse defense over the last 2.5 years. Also his skill set never ages well
Baez wont be playing SS in 2 years, also Hanley was never a good defensive SS. Players like Bordick, Hardy, and Jimmy Rollins all have played into their mid thirties with acceptable D.
Why are you comparing Tulowotzki to Hanley Ramirez? Tulowitzki has been an above average defender at SS for his career, Hanley has been terrible at SS and 3B. They aren’t comparable defensively. It’s a false comparison.
Ok but for Baez you wouldn’t be giving up Synderguaard. You could get Baez for Nise, and Montero
Also, Baez is better at short than he is at 2nd.
Your thinking that the Rockies would take less prospects, and eat up his contract. A) the Wilpons won’t allow it because of the past deals. Perfect example is the Johann Santana deal do you know who they gave up?
Segura would not be as costly to acquire as Tulowitzki, unless I’m reading it wrong. Tulowitzki is an elite player at a scarce position. We aren’t even sure what Segura is.
Yeah a young OF in the back half of the top 100, a SP in the same realm. (Gomez and Guerra) equal to a Nimmo & Montero now. Toss in a Bowman and maybe Ynoa to fill out the comparison based on rankings. Gomez floundered for 5 years before he put it together, after loosing his job to Nyler Morgan
With Tulo wanting out I would take a hard stance at Thor, Matz, and Conforto everyone else could be up for negotiation. Niese would have value to the Rockies, it gives them what they can not get; a veteran SP they can slot in the rotation without having to pay premium prices for mediocre results in Colorado.
Wow for a 30 year old who’s never healthy as a Met fan I respect your opinion but completely disagree so does Alderson.
So you disagree with Tulo in general? Or keeping Nimmo, KP, Smith, Molina etc on the table?
I’d prefer someone with speed at the top of the line up. I would trade those pieces away but the Rockies are going to want one of the following DeGroom, Synderguaard, Matz. I’m not giving up either for them unless I’m getting Segura and a soild arm in the bullpen
I’d give up Synderguaard, Smith, and Molina, for Segura, and Broxton
Jeepers why do you think Segura is good. He isn’t that good. In fact I’m not even sure he’s league average at his position.
Segura is barely an above average shortstop. You know who else are barely above average shortstops? Ruben Tejada and Wilmer Flores. Segura is barely an upgrade over either of them, and might actually be marginally worse. Syndergaard for Segura? You’re dreaming.
Seriously, at Top 10 prospect in baseball, plus their 1st round pick from two years ago, AND a young pitching prospect for a 1-2 WAR shortstop and a reliever who currently can’t get anyone out. Wow.
War is a flaw stat it’s a Stat that’s thrown around just to prove how smart a person is. So tell me a short stop whose played that position into there late 30’s
Jeter, Furcal, Vizquel, Rollins, Mike Bordick, Larkin, Ozzie Smith.
Also, what’s so flawed about WAR? It’s a quick way to get a general idea of a player’s value. Do you have a better stat?
Proved my point all lead off hitters. All had gold glove defense work the count and stole bases.
Vizquel, Bordick, Larkin, Jeter, and Ozzie were not leadoff hitters.
Glossing over that whole WAR thing, eh?
I’ll repost it:
Also, what’s so flawed about WAR? It’s a quick way to get a general idea of a player’s value. Do you have a better stat?
Look Broxton can’t get no one out now your right. But do you honestly trust Familia as a closer.
Batista is my last name sir. Keep trolling names but half those names have been lead off guys. What I’m trying to say is why give up three picthing prospects for a 30 year old injury prone player when you can get a player younger, faster, and one who dosen’t break down. I’m a Met fan and I don’t want to see them get Tolo. Go get Baez, or Russell but Tolo isn’t a good fit. It’s an opinion is all.
Baez and Russell aren’t available. That’s one significant difference.
Why give up players for Tulowitzki? Because he’s one of the best players in baseball.
I don’t get what the difference if the shortstops I mentioned hit leadoff or not. You asked for names, I gave you names.
All players are injury risks.
I’m talking about a lead off guy for this team. Look you got your opinion I’ve got mines. Bottom line Alderson won’t be making this deal and I’m glad.
What makes you sure Alderson won’t trade for Tulowitzki? They’d be silly not to consider it.
Familia has nothing to do with your trade proposal. But yes, I trust him 100x more than Broxton right now. Whether or not you trust Familia, massively overpaying for average Segura and Jonathan Broxton makes them inarguably a worse team, both this year and going forward.