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Trade Market Notes: Top Targets, Papelbon, Jays, Mets, Cueto

By Jeff Todd | June 12, 2015 at 12:09pm CDT

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com ranks the top forty trade candidates around the league, adding observations and notes on each. Though he notes that clubs like the Red Sox and Orioles could potentially end up moving assets, Heyman restricts things to clubs that seem more likely than not to sell at this point. Cole Hamels of the Phillies lands in the pole position; though some top suitors remain unwilling to part with the top players targeted by Philadelphia, one GM tells Heyman that the club will probably be able to land a premium prospect for the lefty. He also argues that a deal involving Dodgers outfielder and Angels starter C.J. Wilson looks good on paper, though the teams have not discussed such an arrangement. You’ll need to read the whole post to take it all in, of course.

  • The Blue Jays and Phillies have not discussed Jonathan Papelbon in the last week, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports (Twitter links), adding that Toronto is looking at other arms at the moment. One name to watch, says Sherman, is Tyler Clippard of the Athletics, who Toronto had in-depth discussions about over the winter.
  • It’s academic at this point, but Clippard also drew significant interest from the Astros over the offseason, Sherman further tweets. Indeed, Houston was “very close” to acquiring the veteran reliever, says Sherman, which raises the interesting question of what the Nationals would have received in return. Ultimately, the club took infielder Yunel Escobar in return, though that deal did not occur until a month after the Astros had already spent big on free agent bullpen arms, which could indicate that the prospective Clippard acquisition might have been contemplated earlier in the winter.
  • Mets GM Sandy Alderson indicated that the club will not rely on a return from David Wright in making its summer moves, David Lennon of Newsday writes. Alderson said the club would not continue providing regular updates on Wright’s status, and said he would not be restricted in making moves. “Would we consider a third baseman who can’t do anything else?” Alderson queried. “Under the circumstances, yeah, we probably would. But we’re not just looking for any third baseman. It has to be something we think is an improvement that doesn’t cost us significantly.” The veteran GM continued to throw cold water on the idea of a move in the near-term, noting that the market was “narrow” and generally features underperforming players at this stage.
  • C. Trent Rosecrans of the Cincinnati Enquirer discusses the Reds’ current predicament, with Zack Cozart out for the season, Devin Mesoraco likely to join him in that regard, and Marlon Byrd sidelined for a significant stretch. Cincinnati should not allow its hosting of the All-Star game to slow its efforts to deal Johnny Cueto, opines Rosecrans, who suggests that the team could reap a larger reward by moving him now (both by selling more starts and, perhaps, by getting ahead of the market). Dealing Cueto, of course, would also increase the appeal of shipping out Mike Leake and Aroldis Chapman. Rosecrans concludes: “At this point, the organization doesn’t need to think about the All-Star Game, or even 2016. This is a long-term move and needs long-term thinking.”
  • Though he’s a rental, Cueto is a true ace and should bring back a healthy return — even if it won’t be near what the Reds might have achieved last year (as Rosecrans explains). There should be no shortage of suitors, but MLB.com’s Phil Rogers lists the five most plausible landing spots: the Blue Jays, Red Sox, Dodgers, Rangers, and Padres.
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  1. Yograndmothermademeasandwich

    10 years ago

    Sandy Alderson needs to get off his high horse and get Guerrero from the Dodgers or Prado from the Marlins.

    Reply
    • willi

      10 years ago

      One of Fine Young Cheap pitchers the mets have should do the trick along with throw in of Niese or Gee !

      Reply
      • DrRamblings

        10 years ago

        God, I hope not.

        I’d love for the Mets to roll the dice on Braun, but the Mets’ ownership is too cheap to do it.

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        • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

          10 years ago

          Being cheap has nothing to do with it.
          I would not want Braun on my team

          Reply
          • Tommets

            10 years ago

            Because he lied or because you don’t think he’s good?

            Reply
            • DrRamblings

              10 years ago

              That contract is the issue. Baseball fans have short memories (e.g. Yankee fans and A-Roid this year). I’m not really sure how his value is priced in regard to prospects (and I think that is an issue for clubs), so….I’d say yes if Syn/Matz are not included. Montero + Plaw + Gee/Niese + 3rd tier prospect would be awesome….but I’m sure the Brewers aren’t coming down on price yet.

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          • willi

            10 years ago

            The Hebrew Hammer would be Regenerative in New York !

            Reply
            • Dock_Elvis

              10 years ago

              Great, but are the Mets gonna ship someone young for Braun?

              Reply
              • willi

                10 years ago

                Just think about the 25 Home Runs and 90 RBIs hitting behind or in front Donkey Duda!

                Reply
                • Dock_Elvis

                  10 years ago

                  I could care less what Braun does….thinking about what the Brewers can get back by unloading him…he’s hardly even marketable in Wisconsin

                  Reply
    • NoAZPhilsPhan

      10 years ago

      I don’t think you have to worry about Guerrero going anywhere. Is contract structure is weird plus…. He is only had a couple good weeks at the very beginning of the season. Since June 1 he has slashed 227/250/455 with 8K and 1 BB. I know the popular line of thought in LA is that it’s because he doesn’t get enough at-bats. Nine games this month an he has had 24 PA which is only 4 shy of the 28 he had in April when he was being proclaimed everything except the second coming. Major league pitchers adjust…. It’s up to the hitter to adjust accordingly…he hasn’t. And it’s not just this month. Since May 1 29K, 4BB 236/274/483.

      Reply
    • Rally Weimaraner

      10 years ago

      Except Guerrero aquires the right to becomes a FA next year if traded. Makes him a hard player to put a value on.

      Reply
    • murph180

      10 years ago

      I’d do a backflip for Prado

      Reply
    • Colin Christopher

      10 years ago

      Guerrero is a defensive nightmare. The Mets don’t want him as a full-time outfielder. If the Dodgers find a trade partner, it would have to be an AL team who could move him to DH on a more regular basis.

      Reply
  2. docbot

    10 years ago

    As far as I can tell the Reds can either fire sale, use Cueto to move Brandon Phillips’ contract or move Cueto for some position players and cash to sign Leake. Although Leake is not an ace, why not the latter? A rotation next year of Bailey, Leake and any combination of the kids looks much better than relying on Homer to anchor the rotation (hopefully not the DL) next year. Aroldis Chapman has a ton of value, but the Reds would have to get too much back for a contender to land him during the stretch run. It makes more sense to trade him during the winter meetings.

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    • Dock_Elvis

      10 years ago

      You’d have to make the assumption Leake would want to resign in a rebuild and that he was worth it. That’s even more money tied up. Leake might have some value on the market given what he might cost. I could see a Boston back in the race maybe bringing him in. As far as Chapman…he gets dealt for prospects, and I’m not sure I write off the deadline because that’s prime time for teams that believe they are in contention to add an arm at a premium and have another year of control. Sure…. Off season opens the market up in theory…but you’re likely looking at generally the same teams in need.

      Reply
      • docbot

        10 years ago

        Would it really be a rebuild? They would lack a true ace, but the kids are pitching well and likely will all be serviceable starters (DeSclafani, Lorenzen, Iglesias, Moscot and Cingrani). Also, the reds have the most dominant closer in the game, above average 1st and third basemen, a solid catching tandem and the enigmatic Bruce. While they still lack a corner outfielder, bullpen depth, and 2nd base, they aren’t that far away from competitive. The problem are the large immovable contracts (Bailey, Phillips, Votto). You could send Phillips with Cueto, perhaps.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          10 years ago

          I don’t think they logically compete in 2016. I’d like them too…but I’d also consider dealing Frazier with a year of control left. I’d be looking at 2017 and beyond. Votto and Bailey make it unlikely they extend Frazier…and I’m not sure that’s even wise no matter what an institution he is

          Reply
          • willi

            10 years ago

            Yankees would take Votto , with money help !

            Reply
            • Donnie B

              10 years ago

              Why would the Yankees trade for Votto when Teixeira is playing great and A-Rod is doing great as well at DH. They have McCann and Jones as well that want time at 1B.

              Yankees will want PITCHING… plain and simple.

              Reply
              • Sleeper

                10 years ago

                If by pitching, you mean relief help, then yes. SP actually has been pretty good overall. Their biggest need is still 2B.

                Reply
                • Donnie B

                  10 years ago

                  I think if they added 1 more GOOD SP, they would be favorites to win the AL EAST – CC Sabathia have been terrible, but Pineda and Tanaka are gold when healthy. Add a third (Cueto or Hamels) and that would be a 3-some teams won’t want to face come playoff time. As for 2B – If Utley starts to hit again before the deadline, he may get attention by the Yankees. If not… Drew still provides good defense and has 9 HR’s…

                  Reply
                  • Sleeper

                    10 years ago

                    CC has actually been a serviceable back end starter(contrary to basic ERA belief), no ace by any stretch, but he’s fallen as a harsh victim of “one bad inning” syndrome and his ERA dictates that,usually because of being left out there too long. He just pitched his best outing of the season last time up, which is promising. There’s just no real room for another arm in the rotation right now and there’s no real need for it either. Also, Utley doesn’t seem to want to leave his team, and the slow season is concerning. Drew could stick if he shows more of that streaky power, but it’s their most obvious need outside of a reliable RHRP.

                    Reply
                    • DrRamblings

                      10 years ago

                      CC…the most expensive #5 in the history of MLB. 24.2m+ this year. $25m next year.

                      Reply
                      • Sleeper

                        10 years ago

                        That’s okay, as long as he’s actually pitching like a number 5, it’s better than what he’s given the past few years. He won’t be the last once great player to be over-paid past their prime, and likely won’t be the worst case forever either.

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                        • DrRamblings

                          10 years ago

                          Homer Bailey may give it a run next yr…he bumps up to $18m, then $19m, $21m, $23m. Yikes. Not even a great pitcher..just a bad contract.

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                          • Sleeper

                            10 years ago

                            Yeah, that one could be pretty painful, especially because of the team in question. At least CC led his team to a WS before falling off, and he’s with a team that can afford to overpay now.

                            Reply
                • willi

                  10 years ago

                  Then make a Trade for the Reds 2nd basemen, Brandon (the Man )Philips. Judge is the Price !

                  Reply
                  • Sleeper

                    10 years ago

                    Judge for Phillips?! Cashman can’t hang up fast enough!

                    Reply
                • DrRamblings

                  10 years ago

                  The starting pitching isn’t exactly healthy and Tanaka’s elbow is a ticking timebomb. Come August I think their SP will be in shambles.

                  Reply
                  • Sleeper

                    10 years ago

                    Again, they have Nova on the return and Severino within reach of readiness as well. The “Tanaka is a ticking TJ time bomb” narrative is about as tired as any in the MLB right now, predicting how his arm holds up is a crap shoot, and waste of time because it could last 2 more starts or 2 more years. You’re entitled to your opinion, I just don’t agree with it.

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              • willi

                10 years ago

                Tex is an injury in Waiting ! A-Rod is doing something behind MLB Back and getting away with it. McCann can’t field at Cather let alone at 1st Base, Jones was cut and let go by Three Teams because he Good, I don’t think so.

                Reply
              • docbot

                10 years ago

                Two words: Paul O’Neill

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          • TheNextEpstein

            10 years ago

            Frazier has this year plus 2 more years of control. It would take a huge haul to get him from the Reds.

            Reply
        • willi

          10 years ago

          Do what the Phillies are having to do Bite the Bullet, with money. Everybody on this Web site tell the Phillies the harsh reality but they themselves refuses see what it takes for them to move those BIG Money Contacts.

          Reply
    • willi

      10 years ago

      Trade , Trade , Trade Stop talking and start moving Players out before another one get injured !

      Reply
  3. scann

    10 years ago

    What’s team’s are in the market for Cueto???

    Reply
    • ToTheMaxy

      10 years ago

      You might get your answer if, ya know, you read the whole post.

      Reply
  4. john 65

    10 years ago

    bundle chapman cueto bruce

    Reply
    • DrRamblings

      10 years ago

      It would never happen. Cueto should get a solid return. I’d love to see Chapman on a contender and in the playoffs. I think he still has 1 yr left on his deal?

      Reply
      • john 65

        10 years ago

        yes

        Reply
  5. Dock_Elvis

    10 years ago

    Reds will need to get back something greater than the compensation pick they’d get in next year’s draft for Cueto

    Reply
    • willi

      10 years ago

      Then Trade him NOW , before the ALL-STAR game ! He will never have a higher ceiling than now , Plus what happens if Elbow / Arm starts acting up.

      Reply
      • Dock_Elvis

        10 years ago

        I’m talked into it… I wouldn’t want Hamels used as leverage anyway. Chance Houston might be in…kind of diving now

        Reply
        • Donnie B

          10 years ago

          Because Hamels isn’t a Rental, I doubt he will be compared to Cueto, although if Cueto is dealt BEFORE Hamels, then the return for Cueto will start the talks in what Hamels return will be.

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          • Dock_Elvis

            10 years ago

            Hamels and Cueto are still potential leverage against each other regardless of control. Same small group of potential suitors….though Hamels could potentially be a bit broader due to control…but that’s a lot of salary to take on as well.

            Reply
            • Donnie B

              10 years ago

              Phillies already said they would add cash to any deal that brings back a better return for any of their players. That and considering what Cueto, Price, Zimermann, Greinke will be demanding as FA’s – Hamels comes cheap compared with them and the 2015 Pitchers like Scherzer and Lester signed for.

              Adding cash in a Hamels deal brings on more clubs to enter the bidding for him, most prominent would be the Astros and Rangers (maybe even the Pirates) to come in along with those already in like the Red Sox, Cubs, Cardinals, Yankees, Dodgers and Padres.

              Reply
              • Dock_Elvis

                10 years ago

                I keep saying Rockies as a darkhorse

                Reply
                • Donnie B

                  10 years ago

                  I highly doubt Hamels would approve a trade to the Rockies.

                  Reply
                  • Dock_Elvis

                    10 years ago

                    Who’s on his 10 team block

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                    • timpa

                      10 years ago

                      Its a twenty team block list.

                      Cars, Cubs, Rangers, Padres, Dodgers, Angels, Yankees, Braves, Nationals are the teams believed he cant block a deal too. He swapped Red Sox off the list and put Cubs in their place this offseason. So he can block a Red Sox deal. Most think that ws done to have his option picked up if traded to Boston.

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                      • Dock_Elvis

                        10 years ago

                        My bad…wow…I’m a little surprised teams do these extensive no trade deals…there’s nothing that can work in their favor. Basically sounds like it’s Rangers, Red Sox, and Dodgers. I suppose he might wave a deal out west if the option is picked up…but he won’t do that to Colorado

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                        • timpa

                          10 years ago

                          Thats Ruben Amaro Jr for ya… he actually gave several players partial no trade lists BUT it had a most favored nation protection clause which meant if he gave another player on the team a contract with more trade protection all players with most favored nation gained that same protection.

                          Roy Halladay, Chase Utley, and Ryan Howard all had that clause and prior to Cliff Lee signing could block trades to I think it was 10 teams. Then Amaro gave Cliff Lee the block 20 teams protection so Halladay, Utley and Howard all bumped up to 20.

                          Then this offseason Rollins wanted a full no trade to waive his 10/5 rights to go to LA so they couldn’t retrade him. The Phillies gave him a full no trade which then gave Howard a full no trade. (He was approaching 10/5 status anyway tho)

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                          • Dock_Elvis

                            10 years ago

                            It’s something Atlanta used to stay away from…and you’d have to for most players. I can imagine some kind of no trade consideration and consideration for a player…but 20 teams means you own the guy basically. Rode that son of a gun into the ground in Philly didn’t they?

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                  • willi

                    10 years ago

                    No Pitcher in his Right Mind wants to Pitch in That Pitchers Graveyard. The welcoming Sign in Colorado is ” Death to Pitchers ” ( careers that is )

                    Reply
                    • Dock_Elvis

                      10 years ago

                      That’s why the Rockies will need to work a trade

                      Reply
                • DrRamblings

                  10 years ago

                  Can Hamels block a trade? Pitching at Mile High…that might be a hard sell on a rebuilding team.

                  Reply
                  • Dock_Elvis

                    10 years ago

                    I was informed he has a 20 not a 10 team block list. I’ll guess Rockies are on there. I won’t be shocked though if the Rockies try to add a nice vet arm soon via trade though.

                    Reply
              • paqza

                10 years ago

                The Astros have plenty of money.

                Reply
          • willi

            10 years ago

            Good Point, in some ways Reds are in a more desperate position than Phillies, Cueto a Rental sets the Bar higher for Long Termer Like Hamels.

            Reply
    • slider32

      10 years ago

      Cueto is to the Reds as Hamels is to the Phillies, both teams need to reload at the deadline!

      Reply
      • Dock_Elvis

        10 years ago

        I’d go ahead and get him dealt as soon as an advantageous deal presented itself

        Reply
  6. Tommets

    10 years ago

    Or the Mets can get a 2B or SS and put Murphy or Flores at 3rd or Flores at 2nd. Whatever the market has. They need a bat.

    Reply
    • oh Hal

      10 years ago

      But he has to be good and the other team has to offer him cheap. The market has lots of choices, just not at dollar store prices. What about just using Hererra?

      Reply
      • Tommets

        10 years ago

        Still not sold on Herrera just yet, I don’t think he should be used this year as a starter. With the way this year is looking, with the NL east and everything, the Mets shouldn’t toy around with this kid. He could be good, don’t get me wrong but I just don’t think he is ready to take on this much just yet.

        Reply
        • paqza

          10 years ago

          This is a poor idea. Herrera is the future and needs as many reels as he can get.

          Reply
      • DrRamblings

        10 years ago

        Hererra is still a kid and has a lot of room to grow. Trading him now would be selling short on him. I wonder if the Mets can dump Tejada on anyone? A fan can dream…right?

        Reply
        • paqza

          10 years ago

          Why?

          Reply
  7. Andrew Medrano

    10 years ago

    The Jays need to try and get Leake. He will come cheaper than any of the top-tier pitchers and still has good upside. No need to give up the main prospects or current lineup.

    Reply
    • Donnie B

      10 years ago

      Leake isn’t any better than what the Jays have now, Unless the idea is to add Leake and put Sanchez as the closer. But that’s more risky because Sanchez is not a proven closer. Trading for Papelbon would be better for the Jays.

      Reply
    • willi

      10 years ago

      Leake is a gloried Fourth Staters, Not want Jays need or want .

      Reply
  8. Bart

    10 years ago

    Are the Angels going to trade Wilson for the Invisible Man?

    Reply
  9. Donnie B

    10 years ago

    Cueto will be dealt at the deadline, I’m pretty sure about that. Not so positive that they trade Chapman unless blown away with the return. They have been playing well and when Mesoraco comes back and takes over LF – that will add a huge bat to their line-up. While they did lose Cozart, they have Suarez… who did well in the minors and had 8 HR there. Leake may be dealt, he’s no Ace but could get a couple decent prospects for him. Phillips is having a very good year, and if the Reds think they can still compete, even after trading off Cueto and Leake – they will want as much offense as possible. A healthy Mesorasco in LF will make the Reds one of the best offenses in the NL. Not many teams put out a better lineup than the Reds.

    1B) Votto
    2B) Phillips
    SS) Suarez
    3B) Frazier
    C) Pena
    LF) Mesoraco
    CF) Hamilton
    RF) Bruce

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    • TheNextEpstein

      10 years ago

      Mesoraco is rumored to only be back for about a month even if he comes back, Hamilton and Phillips have nagging injuries keeping them out of the lineup, Bruce has been playing better lately but still struggling, The only consistent bats in the lineup have been Votto and Frazier. The lineup hasn’t produced in a couple of years and truly needs to be retooled.

      Now is the time more so than ever to get rid of the expiring contracts of Cueto and Leake and possibly package phillips in a deal to get his contract off the books. They have almost no chance of getting a wildcard spot with 3 rookies in their starting rotation and a bullpen that has been atrocious (minus Chapman). Retool with prospects and hope to contend in 2016 but more likely 2017.

      Reply
      • willi

        10 years ago

        Trade Brandon to New Yankees Now before he gets to Old ! Ask for Judge.

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        • Frittoman626

          10 years ago

          Brandon is garbage and no where near worth Judge.

          Reply
    • DrRamblings

      10 years ago

      Leake “…could get a couple of decent prospects”?? He is rocking a 4.29ERA (down from nearly 5ERA) and his strikeouts are down to 5.5/9. He has pitched a couple of good recent games, but he won’t return much. I think it’s his walk year, but still…not much value for a guy who can pitch some innings for the team.

      Reply
      • Donnie B

        10 years ago

        Who gets a better haul.. Leake or Harang?

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        • DrRamblings

          10 years ago

          Definitely Harang. He is a nice 2nd/3rd tier option for a team who can’t go for Cueto level.

          Reply
          • slider32

            10 years ago

            What contender needs any of these pitchers, answer- none!

            Reply
            • DrRamblings

              10 years ago

              Give it another few weeks…pitchers will miss more starts, wear down, etc.

              Reply
      • slider32

        10 years ago

        Leake is a 4th or 5th starter, no contending teams will go after him since he is a rental. Niece and Gee are his equal.

        Reply
    • slider32

      10 years ago

      Cueto and Hamels look to be traded at the deadline along with Kazmir.

      Reply
    • slider32

      10 years ago

      Cards and Cubs have better position players in their division, that’s the problem!

      Reply
  10. Melvin Mendoza, Jr.

    10 years ago

    C.J. Wilson plays outfielder for the Dodgers AND pitches for the Angels? Haha

    Reply
  11. Frittoman626

    10 years ago

    Would love to see the Yankees acquire Johnny Cueto. A rotation of Tanaka, Cueto, and Big Mike if healthy is a scary 1-2-3 if they do make the playoffs.

    Cue the Yankees don’t have the pieces to get him or Yankees won’t make playoffs/Tanaka and Pineda will both get injured comments…

    Reply
    • Donnie B

      10 years ago

      It would take Judge and Servino to get Cueto… That would be the asking price I believe.

      Although Cueto and Phillips to the Yankees for Judge, Stewart, Mitchell and Refsynder would make a huge step in a Reds re-tooling.

      Reply
      • timpa

        10 years ago

        I don’t think that price is realistic. It cost Jean Segura to get Greinke.

        That’s a rental of a top of the rotation pitcher for a few months which cost one prospect in the 50 to 75 overall range. The Angels also gave up two AA pitchers who weren’t rated very highly.

        They won’t get two top 50 prospects for a rental and with Judge hitting as well this year as last he may prob is un touchable for a rental too.

        Reply
    • slider32

      10 years ago

      Forget it, Cashman is not getting rid of Severino or Judge!

      Reply
      • Frittoman626

        10 years ago

        Cashman would do Severino and other non-Judge prospects for Cueto everyday of the week. I like Severino as much as the next person, but Cueto could make the Yankees a World Series contender in the weak AL.

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