The Giants and Dodgers have “checked in” on Braves righty Shelby Miller, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports on Twitter. We already heard recently of interest from another NL West club, the Diamondbacks, though those talks apparently did not progress (Twitter link).
It’s not entirely clear at this point what level of interest the Braves have in dealing the 25-year-old righty. He re-emerged last year in Atlanta after being acquired in the Jason Heyward trade, contributing 205 1/3 innings of 3.02 ERA pitching with 7.5 K/9 against 3.2 BB/9. MLBTR projects Miller to earn $4.9MM in his first of three trips through arbitration.
The Braves have already made clear that they’ll trade just about anyone on their roster, after a major sell-off last year and recent send-off of shortstop Andrelton Simmons. GM John Coppolella has said that the team will not trade first baseman Freddie Freeman, but it seems plausible to think that any other players could be had for the right price.
Young pitching has clearly been the focus of Atlanta’s acquisition efforts thus far, and the club has built an impressive stable of arms. Most recently, high-upside hurler Sean Newcomb headlined the Simmons swap. And a number of other pitchers were already installed in the upper reaches of the farm last winter.
On the surface, then, it might be asked why the Braves would have any interest in dealing players such as Miller and Julio Teheran, both of whom are affordable, well-regarded, younger pitchers. (You could say the same of already-dealt lefty Alex Wood.) The answer, perhaps, is that the value of these kinds of pitchers is arguably highest right now, when the club is simply not ready to compete, making it an opportune time to cash them in for assets that will be of greater utility down the line. It’s also worth noting that, as with Simmons, both Miller and Teheran will enjoy fairly significant raises over the coming seasons.
Both San Francisco and Los Angeles, of course, are said to be hunting for significant rotation upgrades this winter. The division rivals have both had their share of injuries in the rotation and seek multiple new arms. For the opposite reasons that might motivate the Braves to deal a player like Miller, it’s certainly plausible to imagine both clubs having interest in the concept of sacrificing near-future value for a mid-prime major leaguer who is at least controllable for a few seasons at a reasonable rate of pay. That’s all the more true, of course, given that both the Giants and Dodgers are said to be weighing significant free agent pitching investments.
It’s obviously not worth speculating too much about what kind of return might entice the Braves, but there’s little question that both prospective trade partners have the assets needed if the motivation is there. And it’s worth remembering that the Atlanta front office has proven itself highly creative in structuring deals. Of course, it remains to be seen whether there’s a match to be made with these — or other — teams.
As a Braves fan, I’m on board with shipping both pitchers out of town. I think its about time the Braves start negotiating deals for position players though, rather than pitchers. I’ve pretty much had enough with the pitching prospects deals.. In regards to both Miller & Teheran, I feel Miller has the brighter future… I think we’ve seen Teheran’s best.
I think Teheran has more left in him. Personally, I’d rather see them keep both of them. I like both pitchers and want to see what they can offer in ’17
I’m all for this as well. Especially if the returns involve names such like Urias or Seager. Any Braves fan against this is a communist. All jokes aside though, I’m in favor of it
Neither one will yield a return including Urias or Seager. The Dodgers wouldn’t trade either of those prospects for both Miller and Teheran.
There is no way the Dodgers would give up Seager and/or Urias in a deal for Miller or Teheran. Both are top 50 prospects and Seager seems likely to be on the 25 man roster assuming he has a good spring training (further boosting his value). Considering the Dodgers past unwillingness to trade Urias, i doubt Miller or Teheran would be able to net Urias unless both of them were in the deal.
Dodgers wouldn’t trade Urias for Cole Hamels, so pretty safe that he’s not going anywhere for these guys.
Exactly. And Seager isn’t going anywhere either. He could develop into one of the best at his position, and it isn’t like the Dodgers have any Plan B at SS.
“could develop…” that’s hilarious
Were you trying to make a point here?
How about “has a great chance develop”? That work better for you?
4.9 million vs 20 million, you could argue Shelby is a more valuable asset
Except Cole Hamels was 5 years older and 100,000,000 more expensive… So there’s that….
I bet they would do one of seager/ urias pederson and another prospect or bullpen piece for Teheran and Miller, a trade that looks crazy on surface but makes since because the Dodgers really should plug two spots in after kershaw-Anderson-Mccarthy and would bring back young, controlled pitching that urias would provide. (I’m assuming urias would probably be the one to headline over seager) also not updated on mccarthy’s health so I’m not sure if they can rely on him beginning the season feel free to correct me.
What’s the point in trading for a whole bunch of prospects/young talent, when you already have young talent on your team? 25 is pretty young already. Heck, you just traded away one of the top shortstops in the game who was only 26. I mean what’s the point? I just do not understand what the Braves are hoping to accomplish.
The point is in the article… The pieces we’re dealing now are major league proven.. You trade for pieces that can compete at a high level later (you hope). Or you acquire them in hopes as using them as bait when you’re ready to go spend some money.
If they don’t think they’ll be able to afford him in two years, when they won’t have been competitive anyway, it makes sense to part with him now. They are, effectively, in a “rip it all down” campaign. Though they won’t admit it.
Sure, I just don’t understand why you have to get rid of a guy who is team controlled for 3 more years, and will be cheap. If it were his final year of arb, I can understand trading him. If you have a team full of prospects/inexperienced players, you’re still going to suck in 2-3 years if you trade away the players that you have that are already good. As a Royals fan I watched this same thing happen for 20 years.
I think you’ve got to understand the Braves plan here.. They’ve been very vocal in their plans. They want to put a team who can compete on the field when they open up 2017 In their new stadium.. They WILL be spending money next winter, but with a baron FA class next off-season, they’re going to need young talent to make those deals happen… Prospects = Currency in baseball, and the Braves will have plenty of it when it comes time to open their checkbook
I’m all for the Braves plan. However, if they plan to compete in 2017, you need an affordable top-of-the-rotation arm like Miller (and possibly Teheran). There are no arms slated for FA in 2016 outside of Strasburg (possibly James Shields) that looks capable of what Miller did in 2015. Sure, his paycheck is growing, but it’s still a drop in the bucket for any top-of-the-rotation MLB starter. How do you go from extension to trade talk when they’ve stated that they will have the money to extend Miller starting 1/1/17, if they are interested. Next year’s FA class will not be worth the available funds ATL will have in terms of pitching.
They won’t need to lean on FA so much if they have good enough prospects in their system to trade for guys.. They are well aware how thin the FA market will be, so this is how you conform.. I guess it just all depends on the return you’d get for Miller.. If nobody wants to give up guys that can contribute at the MLB Level immediately, no deal
So we are trading MLB talent for prospects so we can re-trade for MLB talent next offseason?
That makes little to no sense. Like others have said, we already have the MLB talent. Are these trades supposed to leave us with better MLB talent in 2017? Based on what?
If anything we’re getting gouged and losing value as we do this.
The answer is yes, and if you don’t understand it then I can’t help you.. It all revolves around timelines my friend.. Shelby Miller has more market value today than he will next year.. The Braves will have him for 1 full season and then lose him to FA, or they can pawn him off to a contender now, for talent with a future maturation date..
You think the Braves have acquired 25 pitchers in the last year because they think they all have a future in their rotation? No way…. They’re trade bait and they all know it
I think what the people who are against this is missing is that while the Braves says that they are open to trading anyone, it does not mean that they will trade him.
This reminds me of the dark days before 2009, when the Blue Jays leaked the rumor that they were talking with the Giants for Cain or Lincecum, in exchange for Rios, and Sabean said that they are in the position where they have to listen to all offers, but the unspoken was that it had to be enough to get the Giants to trade them. Rios wasn’t (and time has proven Sabean correct).
In both cases, the GM is looking to see if there is any team desperate enough to overwhelm you in order to get the assets you hold. I don’t expect the Braves to trade away these guys unless they are overwhelmed.
And the Dodgers might be that team. A recent LA article noted that the Dodgers are looking to drop $100M from their payroll. So Greinke might be their first drop. They already have seven starters on their payroll: Kershaw, McCarthy, Anderson, Bolsinger, Frias, Woods, plus Ryu. They might not have parted with prospects to get Hamels, a very expensive starter, but they might to get a good cost-controlled starter instead.
Don’t see how they trade Urias, he’s basically Greinker’s replacement within a year, so maybe it’s quantity, Pederson, Bolsinger, Frias, plus pick from Zack Lee, Jose de Leon, Jharel Cotton, and Caleb Dirks? Maybe Puig instead of Pederson to offload more money, as he still got 4 more years of control? And Alex Guerrero is not young, but plays MI at low cost and long control, could be another piece available.
I don’t know right mix, but the Dodgers have a lot of interesting pieces that could help a rebuilding team like the Braves which would not hurt LA to lose, as they got Seager taking over SS and Hernandez maybe at 2B, an excess of OF, and Urias soon to join the rotation, perhaps by mid-season, as well as an excess of SP right now. They could easily overwhelm with this collection of assets that they don’t really need to compete in 2016.
Agreed.. It makes no sense to hang on to a good pitcher if you don’t plan on competing.. Plus I think of the 20 something pitchers they’ve acquired over the last year, it’d be in their best interest to get those guys some reps at the big league level and see who sticks.
Have you seen next year’s FA class in regards to starting pitchers? Absolutely nothing. If they trade Miller, Teheran, they are betting on that any of their pitchers will develop into top-of-the-rotation arms by 2017, if you believe them when they say they want to compete in 2017.
The team is like a dog chasing it’s own tail. Wouldn’t be surprised if they send Miller to the Dodgers for Alex Wood and Jose Perazza
I’ll admit that some of their trades seem counterproductive, but that trade made sense to me. Peraza was never viewed by this FO the way Wren viewed him. His inability to be patient at the plate made him expendable in a farm deep with MI prospects, including Ozhaino Albies.
I really don’t get everyone’s fascination with Wood. I’m a UGA grad like Wood and I liked him, but he’s never looked more than a #3 at best. Having already had TJ and declining velocity is not a hopeful sign.
A #3 starter with four years of team control has plenty of value, and he’s never been a hard thrower really anyway.
More like a dog chasing a parked car.
I think it makes pretty good sense that Olivera, if he becomes a .270/30/100 guy, would net in something much more than a speedster who can’t get on base and a lefty sp with declining peripherals.
I’d be for that trade but I doubt the dodgers would do it. Braves Probably missed their chance to sell high on Miller last season.
If Atlanta is moving Shelby Miller, I honestly think they have to go hard after Corey Seager. Package Miller with somebody like Lucas Sims or Tyrell Jenkins…we need some offense and we’ve got pitching in spades, and LA’s not going to let him go easily, if at all. ATL’s got the currency, though.
If they wouldn’t trade him for Hamels I don’t see them trading him for Miller. Cheap control isn’t all that big of a deal to the Dodgers.
Actually cheap is a big deal to the Dodgers. They already said their payroll is going down not up. They already said that the money isn’t limitless. So yeah its definitely in the realm of possibility they could.
The Dodgers FO says a lot of things. There is no way they move Seager for someone like Miller.
Down from where, to where? From the highest payroll in the history of pro sports, to something not quite the highest. Payroll can hardly help but being somewhat less next year if only due to the number of players they’ve been paying to play somewhere else coming off the books.
The highest payrolls in sports tend to be European soccer clubs. Total cost LAD may win, though Real Madrid and/or PSG are probably right there with them.
I’d read somewhere that the Dodgers set a worldwide record in 2015, not that it really matters. The point is they aren’t going to suddenly turn into pikers.
Didn’t say they were. You did. I merely pointed out that they are and will cut payroll. Just because you can afford to spend the money doesn’t always make it smart ala Yankees. Miller is cheap and can sign a very nice extension that would cost the Dodgers 1.5-2x as much on the open market.
Pitching wins ball games. The Dodgers were a mess after Greinke and Kershaw. Anderson was alright, Woods will regress further, Ryu’s shoulder (but that might not be that big of a deal). Yes, they have Urias and Lee but there’s no guarantee. Much like there’s no guarantee the Dodgers can even keep this current band together. If Greinke jumps ship that rotation just got a whole lot weaker and uglier. Sure go after Price and get knocked out in the first round yet again.
Whether the Dodgers nation wants to admit it or not they need pitching. The bullpen is awful and the aforementioned rotation is a starter away from being a disaster.
But fine keep Seager. There’s a reason the Dodgers inquired. It’s a long offseason. If a few pieces fall the wrong way theyll be back with hat in hand.
I mean the difference in cash the Dodgers would have to take one between Hamels and Miller is undeniably large… So yeah I could actually see the Dodgers being MORE apt to move someone like Seager for Miller rather than Hamels..
The Dodgers have been using their cash advantage as leverage to avoid dealing top prospects, so what you are suggesting is a complete reversal of their strategy.
Then why didn’t the Dodgers just send a crap ton of money for Alex Wood and Peraza at the deadline last year? They sent Hector Olivera to the Braves (A coveted prospect they paid a lot of money for over the winter) instead of leveraging all that cash? At the end of the day, people have to understand the word “prospect” means just that… Prospect.. and some of them pan out, but many more don’t
They did, in the form of paying a large part of Olivera’s cost and taking over the balance of Arroyo’s dead contract. They also paid all of Gordon’s salary in the trade to Miami, among several similar deals.
Not even close for Seager, who’s not really available anyway.
Everyone is for sale… Everyone has a price.
Someone has watched the opening lines of the movie “The Good, the bad, and the ugly” movie that terrorists also copy in real life:
“Where life has no value, it sometimes has a price”.. Twist a couple of words around.. I just don’t like the term. “everyone is for sale” bro. It has a tragic history throughout the world. Careful.
Edit:
It was Sergio Leone’s movie before “The Good, the bad, and The Ugly”. “For a Few Dollars More” that had the quotes above.
Well I obviously wasn’t trying to offend anyone so I’m sorry if you took it that way.. It’s just the truth though in all sports leagues. If people didn’t “Have a price” than there wouldn’t be trades, free agency, arbitration, etc.
In the same breath I’ll say I also have a price.. If employer A is offering me 20k more a year to do the same thing as employer B, than I follow the money, as I’m sure you’d do.
Again, Not trying to offend anyone, but I won’t apologize for the way you interpreted my opinion.
The “everything has a price” also refers to things like location and happiness. If you’re making $40k a year and someone offers you $20k more, you’re probably going to take it. If you’re making $400k a year and like the place you work and it’s close to home, you probably don’t leave for a $20k bump.
And the price for Seager or Urias would be incredibly high. Miller and/or Teheran would not even be close to enough for either one.
Sure, if Mike Trout were available, the Dodgers would deal Seager, but he’s not. They certainly aren’t dealing him for the likes of Teheran / Miller.
Its asinine you would even compare the likes of Trout to a prospect. Unbelievable…
It’s worth a shot. You see the Braves’ offense this year? Coppy’s a creative one, plus, with the two sizable deals ATL-LAD pulled last year, I think he knows exactly how much it would take to get CS
You honestly think the Dodgers would trade their 21 yr old 2015 #1 prospect and 2016 starting SS for Shelby Miller? Lol come on. Reach for the stars but you’ll never grab them.
If I were calling the shots. In order to facilitate a trade for Shelby Miller. I’d do this with these two teams.
Dodgers Receive:
RHP Shelby Miller
Braves Receive:
RHP Grant Holmes, OF Alex Verdugo, and 1B/OF Cody Bellinger
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Giants Receive:
RHP Shelby Miller
Braves Receive:
RHP Tyler Beede, SS Lucius Fox, and RHP Kyle Crick
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Shelby Miller has been a very solid pitcher over his career, very durable, and is only getting better. Miller has 3 years of very reasonable control remaining and coming off a really good season. Both The Giants (Madison Bumgarner) and Dodgers (Clayton Kershaw) have amazing left handed pitchers at the top of their rotations and Shelby Miller would be the perfect Right Handed Pitcher to compliment both of them. When looking at the price tag of Price, Grienke, Cueto. The price of the prospects in the hypothetical trade listed above is far lower than some of these $150+ Million dollar contracts in actual money. Than prospects that may turn out to just be lottery tickets.
I would like him in a Dodgers uniform and think I would do that deal even though I really like Grant Holmes and I think Verdugo has a hi upside
Out of all of The Players I mentioned coming back The Braves way in the hypothetical trade mentioned above. Grant Holmes is definitely my pick out of those 6 players mentioned in the hypothetical trade. Though he will have to work on his walk rate much like Sean Newcomb we acquired in the Andrelton Simmons trade. Out of the two I’d definitely deal with The Dodgers since like many have said they have the deeper farm system.
Though as I mentioned in my previous post. The prices for the top tier pitchers who are better than Miller (Price, Grienke, Cueto) will be astronomical. So it might be a lot smarter for The Braves front office to wait until most or all of The big name starting pitchers are off the board in order to make a trade because the Braves should be able to get a better asking price the closer it gets to Spring Training, The Big Names are off the board, and teams are still scrambling to fill out their roster.
I disagree. As much as they have been vocal about lowering payroll they also have been equally as vocal about rebuilding the farm system. They aren’t going to deal the likes of they #4, #5 and #21 prospects for a player with the profile of Shelby Miller. Is Shelby Miller good? Yes but that kind of price tag doesn’t fit the Dodgers plans.
Miller is a solid #2, though getting multiple Top 5 prospects from a top farm team….that’s just silly.
Career 3.22 ERA, Never Misses A Start. 3 years of fair control. He is good enough that he is a proven pitcher. He would be a solid #2 on The Dodgers and Giants, but would would be a #1 on a lot of MLB teams.
I don’t think it is outlandish to ask for those prospects in a deal.
Grant Holmes is ranked as the 58th best prospect in all of baseball by MLB dot com. None of the other prospects in either of the hypothetical trades I mentioned are ranked in the top 100 prospects in all of baseball by MLB dot com.
The truth is The Braves really have no motivation to have to move Shelby Miller. So it will take similar packages like the ones I mentioned to get a deal done from either The Dodgers or Giants.
I mean to get an established starter. It’s going to take some good prospects coming back the other way. I honestly value Shelby Miller more than Andrelton Simmons and we got back the 19th best prospect in all of baseball for Simmons, because Miller looks to be getting better and Simmons looks to have reached his offensive ceiling.
I bet the Braves would want Austin Barnes from LA.
I’d like to see the white sox throw their hat into their hat into the ring. Offer Erik Johnson Avi Garcia and an Aa ball prospect.
Umm … the White Sox are after position players not pitchers.
If I am the Braves I only talk to the Dodgers and not to Giants. Prospect wise the Dodgers farm system is much deeper and stronger then the Giants.
And yet, there the Giants are, pumping guys out of their farm system onto their Major League Roster who just seem to win.
Dodgers have a great farm system. The Giants do as well… the only difference is that the latter doesn’t receive the fanfare that the former receives.
Every year here, “fans” say Giants have a terrible farm system lol Yet the entire infield is home grown with 3 all stars! *shrugs*
I guess it leads to one glaring question:
Is this a product of outstanding talent, great development, or both?
I think a lot of teams have great young talent that never develops, and some teams have guys who weren’t as heralded for their abilities that turn into studs.
Perhaps it’s that the Giants just develop guys really well, guy that, perhaps, other organizations wouldn’t strike gold with.
Wish they had the same knack for developing outfielders as they do with infielders.
I’m curious to see what they can do with Mac Williamson or Parker after a full year. I get they don’t want to start the season with inexperience, so I’d be okay to see them get a guy in FA who could slip over to CF after Pagan walks, give Williamson or Parker the LF job and call it good.
But in general, yes, they’ve struggled getting OF through the system.
It’s not really. Dodgers system is very top heavy and the Braves aren’t getting the cream of the Dodgers crop for Miller.
A smart man would talk to other teams to drive up the price. If you talk to only one team and that team knows it then you lose all bargaining power.
They are trying to copy the mets model of a nasty rotation around pre arbitration pitchers and a few corner stone players that are up and coming. Think conforto, drnaurd, Dilson Herrera and Flores. Don’t forget the closer spot being locked down by familia minus his 3 blown saves in the World Series. Though you could say he got them there. Then Saving your dollars for trades in the stretch run.
The Mets provided a blueprint…with the obvious flaw of their BP. KC got hot and had a shutdown pen…and some luck. Teams definitely like the idea of stockpiling arms, but for every great arm there are multiple busts. The Mets hit on a number of prospects in a short amount of time, which is hard to replicate.
I don’t necessarily blame the Braves for being open to trade anyone. Too bad they are going to have a hard time moving Bourn and Swisher (? I think that’s the other $$ guy). Horrible contracts.
Shelby Miller is a 17 game winner in SF or LA.
Easily.. With as bad of luck as he had searching for wins in Atlanta this year, Miller probably would be happier to leave the Braves
Wonder if the Cubs are contemplating a serious run.
if the cubs do make a run at him I would imagine they would have interest in Maybin as well. Not sure what it would take – Mckinney, Baez, Edwards as a starting point? That might be a little light but pcs could be added
I’m not really sure why Atlanta would be interested in dealing Miller, since he was the center piece of the Heyward trade. At some point, you can have too many prospects, when all you have is rookies w/ no experience.
I understand the business side of it, but I also understand the fans side of it and they’re not too high on the Braves right now, which will most likely equal a reduction in attendance from last year (if that’s even possible) due to all the trades.
Fans have an emotional connection, which needs to be considered (IMO) when making trades. Can’t alienate the fan base. They’re the ones who are willing to spend money to help the future…
The Astros ran out a bunch of rookies/young guys…and it was ugly at first, but they really came together. I’m not saying it is easily nor likely, but I think that approach has merit. Combine the extra $$ for 2017 w. the stadium opening, I think it is a good idea to get young and roll the dice, with a plan to fill in gaps when the influx of $$.
I’m pretty sure Heyward was the center piece of the Heyward trade
Interesting concept. Heyward had one year left so they trade him for two years of miller. Then with one year left of Miller they are going to move him for a potential prospect? I feel like Heyward had enough value that they would have received a better prospect for him last year. Does the one year of Miller on a bad team justify potentially a lesser return in the end? And has miller’s value gone up since last year? Things to think about.
Yes, to the second one.
They traded 1 year of Heyward for 4 of Miller…Miller still has 3 years of control, next year will be his first year in arbitration
I’d like to see Zach Lee and Puig for Teheran happen.
I’d like a puppy for Christmas.
Teheran+ a top prospect and lower prospect is more of the cost for just Puig. He may be a malcontent…but he can still swing a mean bat.
I don’t see Puig as a malcontent. Immature, and a little weird sometimes maybe, but it isn’t like he yells at coaches or busts water coolers. Whether he will ever grow into the game is the open question.
Trading Miller for more pitching prospects does not make much sense on the Braves end.
@Jordan, I agree with you. The Braves are in serious need of solid young position players. Even with all the great teams during their long run, they only managed 1 WS title.
The Braves need to blow it up and look down the road, they tried having the high profile guys in there and it didn’t work, every team can manage a 5 year competitive window and it your not in it you may as well spendo 5 years to get back to that window
This is good for Miller. How frustrating must it be for him to pitch a 3.03 ERA and still loose 17 games? The Braves suck right now and he needs pitch for a team who is winning and can win. The Braves have proven they will not win for a few more years.
I’m with Coppy. Everyone needs to chill out on the Braves. Miller, Simmons, and Teheran arent the cornerstones for a team to beat the current Mets or Nationals. It hurts but it was time to tear it down. A fresh start. I’m all for the rebuild. Not too mention…its only November 19th!!! There is still 4 more months of the offseason. The position players will come. Not too mention I havent heard 1 person mention the international FA period next year. The Braves can spend HEAVILY on them this year. Now, with that being said IMO Freeman should be only on the block if we get a teams 3 or 4 top 5 prospects.
3 or 4 of a teams top 5 prospects? Are you joking? He is only cheap for one more year and then he makes over 20 million each year after for his contract. He is not Harper by far and no way any team would give anything near 3 or 4 of there top 5 for him EVER.
Point I’m making is He is untouchable to me unless a team just gives it all up for him. Not saying thats what he’s worth
dodgers love to trade for talent but they wont do it if they have to give up one of their top prospects. the past few years shown that, when zach lee was a top prospect they wouldn’t trade him and last season dodgers didnt want to give up seager or urias for hamels. last time dodgers gave up a good prospect was when ned was the GM and look how that turn out
With all the pitching the Braves have gotten back on this deals I’d be on board of them now trading some of it for some position players.
I really liked the AJ Pollock for Shelby Miller rumor. From the Dodgers I like Yasiel Puig or Corey Seager for Shelby Miller. I really don’t see it with the Giants, maybe Joe Panik and Matt Duffy, but not really crazy about them for Miller.
Hopefully the Red Sox can get involved, Shelby and Betancourt for Swihart, Moncada and Jackie Bradley. That would be great.
Not one of those teams gives up any of the players you mentioned for Miller.
I mean if it’s not something like that from the Braves stand point, I would just hang on to him
Said it below, and you can scroll down to see my jabber and reasoning, but genuinely interested in other people’s takes:
Dodgers receive
Miller
Teheran
Braves receive
Urias/seager (99%sure it would be urias)
Pederson
Bullpen piece(not that the Dodgers have any good ones but word is the braves are looking for them)
My initial thought is that it’s never going to happen but the Dodgers do need two starters after Anderson, Mccarthy, and kershaw and they could trade wood or even one of the other 4 guys. Idk sorry to ramble but if anyone has an opinion let me know!