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bravesfan88
It would be nice for the Braves to take a stab at Craig Stammen…The opportunity to pitch on a semi-regular basis would be in Atlanta. Also, they could probably offer him a better gaurenteed deal than most would be comfortable with, and Stamen would also have the reassurance of knowing, if he pitched well, that he would/could be traded to a contending team later on in the season.
All signs point to this being a good deal for both parties involved; however, the Braves have already added 6 new faces fighting for a bullpen spot. Also, those 6 new pen arms, does not include guys like Chris Volstad, Bud Norris, nor Casey Kelly who could all legitimately fight for an open spot in the pen, if they do not make the starting rotation.
Also, with Shea Simmons’ and Jason Grilli’s health jeopardizing their chances to start out on the opening day roster, there is a possibility that their spots could also be available for the taking while they each try to make their respective returns.
bravesfan88
Ultimately, I am definitely not a fan of the gNats, but I truly do like their signing of Petit. I think he very well could be an under the radar move, that provides a very solid payoff for Washington.
Solid pick-up, that will eat up quality innings for their team, at a reasonable price. Truly, it is pretty hard to get much better value then that. Good Job gNats., and congrats.
Not Xabial
How does Rafael Montero factor into the mets plans? I see that the mets rotation is packed so does he just pitch out of the pen for a while or what? I thought he was seen as a part of their rotation of superstars. I may be wrong though.
chicothekid
Montero is rotation depth at AAA and has a chance of making the team in the pen to help out immediately. If he makes the team, it will be in the bullpen and it’s possible he could get the occasional spot start if it isn’t given to Verrett. It should go without saying, but he could easily be traded if the right deal presented itself. The Mets could still use a quality setup man for the 8th inning, and if Montero was part of the package to bring in the right guy, that trade could happen.
R.D.
If petit thinks the nats are always in contention he has a very short memory span
JT19
They’ve been in contention for the better part of the last few years. Even last year they were in contention until the last few weeks despite their struggles. I doubt anybody thought the Nats would implode like they did. They were probably over rated in that they were widely picked to make the WS, but I’m sure most people at least had them competing for a playoff spot at worst. I mean, who really thought that Fister, both Zimmermans, Desmond, Rendon, Werth and Span would all be hurting around the same and/or struggling nearly as bad as they did.
R.D.
I’m just sayin that two 90 win seasons int he entire existence of a franchise (since 2005) is not “always in contention.”
Per comparison, the Cardinals have won 86 or more games every year since 2007.
Ray Ray
Two 90 win seasons since 2005, not to mention the prior 36 years as the Expos. They are also one of two franchises that has never appeared in the World Series. I would argue that the Mariners are orobably overall the worst franchise in MLB history (despite the 116 win season), but the rest of the top/bottom 5 would be the Expos/Nats, Padres, Phillies, and of course my Rockies. Each of them have had a good year here or there, but for the most part losing is the legacy for all 5 franchises.
Finchsta
Where have you been the last 3 years?
A'sfaninUK
As if a team led by Bryce Harper and Max Scherzer is going to be down and out for very long.! LOL at people thinking 2015 is the norm, not just an aberration.
I’d like to see them get a 2B and a SP this winter but even if they don’t, they are going to contend as-is.
RunDMC
WSH was getting just about max output from both players almost the entire season, and look at the team finished. They’re not the problem, it’s dumb moves like adding Papelbon – a known clubhouse cancer (though I didn’t think anyone could have predicted about that turned out) when they already had a good closer, not acquiring a definite 2B upgrade, and so many injuries. Ryan Zimmermann’s contract is not looking great if he can’t stay healthy, already losing value by having to shift to 1B, and Werth’s contract has been a loss. With the size of Scherzer’s deal, I can’t help but think that’s a huge risk. They need their secondary players to stay healthy and play well, with Rendon taking the next step, to really compete.
greatd
Marlins probably needed DeSclafani / Heaney in their farm system.
bobo678
one billion dollars for 5 baseball players…while my cable and internet bill goes up to over 200 a month….what happens when people keep cutting cable
yanks02026
i love how everyone makes the mets pitching sound so great. Several of the pitchers have pitched not even a half a season, yet people act like they’re an ACE because a couple good games.
hojostache
Bitter Yankees fan?
Scouts, GMs, and other baseball people who get paid to evaluate talent are all saying their starting 4 are that good. Hopefully Wheeler (a former elite prospect) can come back from TJ and be a solud #2 caliber pitcher.
stymeedone
Obviously, you don’t remember “The Four Aces” which were touted by the Mets previously. That didn’t work out too well for them. None of the four lived up to the hype.
Long Suffering Mets Fan
1) It wasn’t just the Mets promoting Generation K it was the experts.
2) It was a trio (Pulsipher, Isringhausen, and Wilson) and Pelfrey if you want to make it a quartet. Izzy had a reasonably successful career in the ‘pen. Pelfrey is still pitching and getting contracts. Pulse was serviceable for a few seasons. Wilson’s career was upended by injuries.
3) Again, it is not just the Mets promoting these guys. Even HoF pitchers are saying they are that special.
theruns
You mean when they had Seaver, Ryan, Koosman and Matlack? Those guys were pretty good. If you are referring to the guys from Generation K it’s a little too late… Harvey and deGrom have already accomplished more than those guys ever did and Synergaard/Matz have more talent in their pinkie finger than Pulsipher ever did. That is a terrible analogy, if you can’t see the talent within this staff you should reconsider how you judge talent.
Ray Ray
I agree. Odds are that 2 of those 5 completely bomb with their careers through either injury or ineffectiveness, Matz has pitched a whole 8 games in the majors, so not even half a season. You might get 1 or 2 if you are very lucky that are CY-quality pitchers throughout their career. Don’t forget when the Cubs had Wood, Prior, Zambrano, and Clement and everyone thought they would dominate the NL for years.
thebare54
Like the current Mets you need bats
theruns
Pretty sure deGrom and Harvey are already CY level pitchers. Not sure if you saw Syndergaard pitch but he looked like a guy who could get to that level real quick. And of course any pitcher can get hurt, that’s not how you judge players though.
John Cate
That’s ridicluous. David Price and Zack Greinke both got contracts that guaranteed them just over $200 million each. And they’re arguing that all five of the Mets’ starters are worth the same as Price and Greinke on the open market?
None of them would get a deal like that if they were a free agent right now. The five of them collectively would be lucky to get more than about $500 million between them. There’s also the fact that Harvey and deGrom have both had TJS, and only one former TJ pitcher has ever even gotten a $100MM deal. Syndergaard, who never has, might get the most money.
TheMichigan
Considering what people are willing to deal for Jose Fernandez and he’s already had TJ I think he will be getting a 200 MM contract
michaelw
I’m not a Nats fan but I do know Wash won’t repeat that fluke this year. I have pegged to win the East. If the Mets didn’t make those moves who knows. Wash won’t have a bad year. Management rebuild I don’t see it happening. Injury didn’t help. Mets lost what go them to WS. Yes they have young pitching but they had that before mid season too. WO those trades they don’t get that far. To add Wash will probably pick up a splash with what’s left. Let’s face it everyone blown their load. There still a lot left. Wash missed Hayward – Zorb – And few pitchers. No else has money left. St.L is done as the Cubs, Arz, SF – Pitt not spending money n NY not spending big money. In AL Angels r prob good NY May spend doubtful. Bost done Toronto don’t have that kind if money. KC playing cheap card. So I expect if they can offer Hayward 200 mil it go for someone or few people. So don’t dwell on the past Wash will be there. Really I have SF, Chi n Wash WC is anyone’s guess but I wouldn’t bank Pitt or LA unless LA makes a move quick. lol at can’t win 90 games solo. Then take your pick 2 of 3 Arz which I think will be one then a toss between NY n ST.L next big move gets in. Just my thoughts as a Chicago fan. But Wash will be there.
michaelw
Typo Clay can’t win 90 games solo.
michaelw
The mad Hungarian should come out of retirement n pitch for the min and show everyone how it’s done.