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L.A. Notes: Shoemaker, Weaver, Tolliver, Dodgers’ Pen

By Jeff Todd | September 7, 2016 at 8:25am CDT

All signs are that Angels righty Matt Shoemaker is progressing well after being struck in the head by a line drive and requiring surgery to control internal bleeding. The overriding concern, needless to say, is with his long-term health. Fortunately for the hurler, he seems to be improving enough that it is reasonable to consider what kind of path he might take to return to the mound. As Pedro Moura of the Los Angeles Times writes, Shoemaker has been able to communicate with his family, friends, and teammates throughout the ordeal. Speaking generally on the subject, a neurosurgeon explains that this is a positive sign. Depending upon the specifics and his continued improvement, the 29-year-old will hopefully be able to return to “living normally” in three to six weeks and could plausibly be ready to begin Spring Training on time. MLBTR extends its best wishes to Shoemaker and his family.

Here’s more out of Los Angeles:

  • Though we have heard suggestions to the contrary, Moura says that he’s getting the sense that Angels righty Jered Weaver will look to pitch at least one more year. Indications from Weaver and those who know him do not suggest that he is preparing for retirement, says Moura, though his plans could be dependent upon whether he is able to secure a starting job. Weaver has only ever played for the Halos, and GM Billy Eppler has praised his efforts this year, but it remains unclear what kind of interest the team will have in the veteran hurler.
  • The Angels’ recent claim of Ashur Tolliver may represent a nice pick-up for the club, as Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com explains. Multiple other teams put in claims on the southpaw, and scouts tell Kubatko they were surprised the Orioles were willing to put him on the wire. As Kubatko notes, the 28-year-old is something of a late-bloomer who has shown a live arm.
  • While the Dodgers’ bullpen-building efforts haven’t always been well-received, the current relief corps appears to be a top-quality unit, ESPN.com’s Doug Padilla writes. Apart from star closer Kenley Jansen, most of the pen pieces aren’t exactly household names and haven’t been used in formalized roles. Manager Dave Roberts continues to mix and match, and now has 13 arms to call upon down the stretch. The skipper’s comments on Joe Blanton, who has been excellent, are indicative of the interesting approach that Los Angeles has relied upon. “Joe’s been great for us, he really has against right-handers and left-handers,” Roberts said. “He’s done some long relief early, he’s pitched in the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth. He’s a guy that has really solidified our bullpen, but it’s not a hard-fast rule that he’s going to be pitching in the eighth. I think that I used Joe in a lot of high-leverage situations and that might come in the seventh.”
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  1. 22Leo

    9 years ago

    Dave Roberts has done a great job managing the Dodgers, especially considering all of the significant injuries he has had to deal with, particularly regarding the pitching. He will likely receive serious consideration for NL Manager of the Year and, depending on how the Dodgers finish the regular season, could very well win the award. The only competition I see so far is Joe Maddon, simply due to the Cubs record. That team, however, is stacked with talent and has been fortunate enough to remain very healthy, relatively speaking, and I do not think Maddon has been faced with nearly as many obstacles as Roberts.

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    • Niekro

      9 years ago

      Dusty Baker should win the award but it will probably be Maddon, Roberts took over a team that has won 90+ games the past 3 years, yeah losing Greinke and Kershaw hurts, but it isn’t like the team didn’t have Kershaw at all, they got a 120 elite innings out of him, Joe Torre only won the award twice basically because of payroll, the Dodgers have a 266 million dollar payroll they should be built to handle injuries better than any team, Roberts does deserve consideration but should not win it. The Mets got 92 bad innings out of Harvey should Collins be vaulted into consideration too?

      Reply
      • Ray Ray

        9 years ago

        I lean toward Dusty Baker as well. He gets him so much flak, but all he does is win wherever he goes. The AL race is wide open and I could see any of 5 different guys getting it. Gun to my head, I would probably choose Terry Francona right now, but that answer might change tomorrow. It’s that close.

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      • fred-3

        9 years ago

        Their payroll number isn’t actually $266M because they’re still paying guys to not be on the roster. This is actually one of the younger Dodger teams in recent memory… and most of the young guys have produced (Joc, Seager, Urias, Stripling, Toles, Baez, etc) because they’re putting put in positions to succeed, something Mattingly did not do.

        Either way, the manager of the year award is dumb.

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        • Ray Ray

          9 years ago

          Their payroll is still $266 million because other teams cannot afford to just pay guys to not be on their roster. They are stuck with them in most cases. Now imagine some of those guys that LA paid to go away instead of those young guys. Do you think they are still in first place? They take advantage of an unlevel playing field. I can’t fault them because anyone would. I fault the system that allows it to happen.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          9 years ago

          Agreed. Even though I am a fan of a team with that kind of spending power, I can still see that the MLB revenue system stinks.

          Reply
      • Upperdeck

        9 years ago

        How exactly was Dusty Baker not given a turn key team that has stayed relatively healthy all year?

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        9 years ago

        That is just a bad argument. Baker was essentially given a first place team. Maddon had a first place team so if that’s the criteria then all three need not be considered.

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        • Ray Ray

          9 years ago

          No, he was given a very disappointing team that missed the playoffs last season. He turned them into a first place team.

          Reply
    • bigjonliljon

      9 years ago

      Give them both the same team and Maddon will get more out of that team. This is why he should win the award

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    • BlueSkyLA

      9 years ago

      Only looking at the number of starters he’s needed to juggle, Roberts has done a pretty remarkable job, but in addition to that, he’s had to handle a record number of injuries, the unique demands of the Puig situation, and a FO that hasn’t exactly been quick to respond to roster needs. He’s been steady throughout, a real accomplishment for a rookie manager even before you get to the W-L record or standings. The award isn’t for exceeding expectations, but if it was, Roberts would be a shoe-in.

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      • Cam

        9 years ago

        Great post. Roberts has had a phenomenal amount of issues to deal with this year – yet has his team playing confidently and stretching their lead.

        I’m forgetting the Mattingly days, and that makes me happy.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          9 years ago

          I wasn’t nearly as down on Don as some, but I see how much more engaged Roberts seems to be with his players and how much grace he’s shown under pressure. He earns more respect every day.

          Reply
  2. Ray Ray

    9 years ago

    How is Shoemaker a “breakout” hurler? That term usually refers to someone that comes out of nowhere to have an amazing season. It is wrong in two ways.

    First, Shoemaker didn’t come out of nowhere. He actually had a better season in his rookie year of 2014.

    Second. Shoemaker was good this season, but hardly amazing. He was a solid starter, but I think the term “breakout” belongs to someone like Jake Arrieta or Dallas Keuchel in 2014 or Josh Donaldson in 2013.

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    • 24TheKid

      9 years ago

      I think they were implying 2014 when they say breakout pitcher so calm down.

      Reply
      • Ray Ray

        9 years ago

        I am plenty calm. Just because you disagree with someone and criticize them does not mean you are out of control.

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    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      I mean, I guess I could’ve used a better term on the basis of Complaint #1. But I disagree with Complaint #2. He has been a very good starter, which is plenty to warrant that kind of label.

      Reply
      • Ray Ray

        9 years ago

        I was probably just being nit-picky over word choice (something I actually hate when others do), but I thank you for acknowledging my criticism. I still stand by my original statement though. He was definitely good enough to not warrant replacing, but to me that isn’t break out.

        Reply
  3. Jizz Chasholm

    9 years ago

    I agree that manager of the year is a stupid award most times, but this year there’s an exception. Roberts has to win it, it’s amazing what they’ve been able to overcome. They’ve been missing the best player in the game for months, and have somehow got better. And didn’t they have all 5 of their opening day starters on the dl at the same time this year?

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    • Upperdeck

      9 years ago

      Through last nights game, rookies have thrown 28.5 pct of innings & taken 21.4 pct of plate appearances this season for the 1st place Dodgers. That’s impressive no matter how you cut the cake.

      Reply
    • Ray Ray

      9 years ago

      They have been missing the best player in the game for years, ever since he was drafted by the Angels.

      Reply
      • Jizz Chasholm

        9 years ago

        I guess that’s a matter of opinion lol

        Reply
  4. User 4245925809

    9 years ago

    You have to feel for Weaver. A great guy himself, coming off a terrible season with no health reason really to pin the decline it on, except for age creeping up and a low-mid 80’s FB and stuff that is now becoming somewhat more hittable.

    It would be nice to see him hang around as some kind of swing man in Anaheim… At that kind of price tag mind you… Weaver would have to tell Boras his wishes again, like last time when took the discount he wanted that, maybe even switch agencies so he can continue pitching, as don’t see him staying around unless he’s willing to sign anywhere for a MiLB deal, or stick with either Anaheim, or one of several rebuilding teams for 3-4m.

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    • MatthewBaltimore23

      9 years ago

      You mean coming off of 2 or 3 terrible seasons.

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    • davidcoonce74

      9 years ago

      It is quite interesting to see how Weaver’s career arc mirrors that of his brother.

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      • Ray Ray

        9 years ago

        It doesn’t mirror his brother at all. Jeff Weaver was usually the best pitcher on a lot of very bad teams, but he was never as dominant as Jered. If Jered had about 3-4 more years of his prime years, he would be a Hall of Famer or at least under serious consideration. Jeff Weaver was excluded from the same ballot. that included Randy Winn. Enough said.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          9 years ago

          True, but Jeff could definitely swing the bat way better than his brother.

          Reply
  5. Kraycik

    9 years ago

    Orioles are DUMB
    Angels are SMART

    When will the Orioles learn how to evaluate and value talent?

    Reply
    • Cam

      9 years ago

      How can the Angels be smart evaluating and valuing talent, when they have exactly one good player? Terrible example

      Reply
      • mehs

        9 years ago

        If the Angels were so smart and Tolliver is so valuable why didn’t they take him when he was left exposed in the Rule 5 draft last off season. He has a history of shoulder problems. He is on the wrong side of 28 and has pitched 17 1/3 innings total above AA in his career. He also was rated behind younger left handed pitchers Aquino, Hart, Lee, and Scott in the organization.

        MILB Review from this season:

        “Overall, Tolliver projects as a sixth man in the bullpen or 11th man on a staff, capable of short relief work.”

        So roster filler for a bad team like the Angels.

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